Originally by: Chade Malloy

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Edited by: Chade Malloy on 02/12/2004 18:30:03
Well, look at the current situation.

After the latest changes, missiles are:

-> cheap
You now have an output of 100 missiles per run at the same costs, even for
torpedos.

-> heavy hitting
they do fixed damage and can not be outmanevered since they track the target
now in advance, so a raven can own an interceptor/frigate with cruise missiles.

-> hard to destroy
since defenders are STILL bugged (brake bug) and impractical in use, and
smartbombs need a bit of practise to use (not to mention they take lots and lots
of cap) you don¦t really have a chance to defend yourself against them lets say in
a cruiser.

-> always hitting
since they dont have any tracking issues.

-> for general use
one hits em all, you can fire a cruise on anything and the chance that it will hit
the target is about 80% (there is a chance the missile gets destroyed through sbs,
defenders)

-> easy to train
it takes only a bit more than a week to be able to use cruise missiles

-> failsafe
there are no blind warheads. If the missile reaches you, it detonates. always.
I wish my computer would be that stable.

-> take nearly no cargo space
you can put several hundred torps in a raven.

Edit:
-> self propelled
they need no cap to fire (maybe the launchers should use cap if you reload them?)

-> self targeting if using fofs
well, tats actually not bad, since that way you can defend yourself when someone has
you target jammed.

Edit end-

I sincerly hope its not going to stay that way or everyone will only fly ravens, especially in pvp. And now there is not even the "money barrier" that would keep ppl form using missiles all the time. Another example how ccp reacted to the whinage of the wrong ppl, or maybe all devs are caldari.

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Originally by: Chade Malloy

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Edited by: Chade Malloy on 02/12/2004 18:30:03
Well, look at the current situation.

After the latest changes, missiles are:

-> cheap
You now have an output of 100 missiles per run at the same costs, even for
torpedos.

-> heavy hitting
they do fixed damage and can not be outmanevered since they track the target
now in advance, so a raven can own an interceptor/frigate with cruise missiles.

-> hard to destroy
since defenders are STILL bugged (brake bug) and impractical in use, and
smartbombs need a bit of practise to use (not to mention they take lots and lots
of cap) you don¦t really have a chance to defend yourself against them lets say in
a cruiser.

-> always hitting
since they dont have any tracking issues.

-> for general use
one hits em all, you can fire a cruise on anything and the chance that it will hit
the target is about 80% (there is a chance the missile gets destroyed through sbs,
defenders)

-> easy to train
it takes only a bit more than a week to be able to use cruise missiles

-> failsafe
there are no blind warheads. If the missile reaches you, it detonates. always.
I wish my computer would be that stable.

-> take nearly no cargo space
you can put several hundred torps in a raven.

Edit:
-> self propelled
they need no cap to fire (maybe the launchers should use cap if you reload them?)

-> self targeting if using fofs
well, tats actually not bad, since that way you can defend yourself when someone has
you target jammed.

Edit end-

I sincerly hope its not going to stay that way or everyone will only fly ravens, especially in pvp. And now there is not even the "money barrier" that would keep ppl form using missiles all the time. Another example how ccp reacted to the whinage of the wrong ppl, or maybe all devs are caldari.

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Originally by: USA4

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I just want to serve all you missle complainers a **** warm cup of stfu about my missles. Fof missles do crap for damage, even at lvl 5, and you have no control whatsoever over which target they decide to fire at. Cant kill nothing that is not held down at long range unless there stupid enough to stick around while my slow missles ease there way to them. What needs to be done, is there needs to be high slot fitting modules to jam gun boats. Curently you have the option of using defenders and smartbombs to defend against missles. There are no high slot modules to defend against gun boats.

What you whining ac e mofos need to do is get off ya mothers milk, and learn how to fit a ship out.

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Originally by: USA4

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I just want to serve all you missle complainers a **** warm cup of stfu about my missles. Fof missles do crap for damage, even at lvl 5, and you have no control whatsoever over which target they decide to fire at. Cant kill nothing that is not held down at long range unless there stupid enough to stick around while my slow missles ease there way to them. What needs to be done, is there needs to be high slot fitting modules to jam gun boats. Curently you have the option of using defenders and smartbombs to defend against missles. There are no high slot modules to defend against gun boats.

What you whining ac e mofos need to do is get off ya mothers milk, and learn how to fit a ship out.

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Originally by: Mikelangelo

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Missiles are overpowered, for the following reason:

They are the only current weapon which does NOT take into account the signature radius of the target and that of the firing ship.

Other weapons' chance to hit is altered by the ratio of the target's signature radius and the firing ships signature radius, as well as the weapon's sig radius.

Not so for missiles.

Anybody that says missiles are fine as they are is a hypocritical Caldari corporate goon.

For the record: I fly both Minmatar and Caldari battleships.

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Originally by: Mikelangelo

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Missiles are overpowered, for the following reason:

They are the only current weapon which does NOT take into account the signature radius of the target and that of the firing ship.

Other weapons' chance to hit is altered by the ratio of the target's signature radius and the firing ships signature radius, as well as the weapon's sig radius.

Not so for missiles.

Anybody that says missiles are fine as they are is a hypocritical Caldari corporate goon.

For the record: I fly both Minmatar and Caldari battleships.

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