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Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.04.24 13:07:00 - [1] Google logs data on Wireless networks while passing by in the Street car. Oh dear. How arrogant is this statement, by the way? Quote: Google CEO Eric Schmidt recently said internet users shouldn't worry about privacy unless they have something to hide. I'll decide what I want millions of people to know about me, thank you very **ing much. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by:** CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Grek Forto Webb Industries	Posted - 2010.04.24 13:15:00 - [2] Argh, Comic Sans!
Motaka Caldari	Posted - 2010.04.24 13:15:00 - [3] Me thinks you got something to hide..
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.04.24 13:23:00 - [4] From certain personal experiences directly with that company, all I can say is that you might be better off using Yahoo or something. That'll be all. ________________________ Store \| Apply
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.04.24 14:38:00 - [5] Originally by: Grek Forto Argh, Comic Sans! Bow before thee mighty font, cretin! Originally by: Motaka Me thinks you got something to hide.. Not really, but I'd rather not have some company which has had several issues protecting it's own data from China and other attacks have information on me that can be put to illegitimate use. If companies cannot protect their own ass(ets) why should I trust them to keep the information they have on me any more secure? This is the reason i don't use Googlemail/Gmail, this is the reason i do not use Chrome, this is the reason i do not use Wave, this is the reason i do not use Googledns, and it's the reason that i only use Google search when i absolutely must. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.04.24 15:42:00 - [6] Edited by: Akita T on 24/04/2010 15:44:11 Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Google Google CEO Eric Schmidt recently said internet users shouldn't worry about privacy unless they have something to hide. I'll decide what I want millions of people to know about me, thank you very ****ing much. G-Man sort of has a point though, you know ? If you have absolutely nothing to hide (and I mean zero things to be so embarrassed about, things you wouldn't dare share with random people), privacy would be a moot point. P.S. Eat hot white arial black, mothercomic ! _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.04.24 16:31:00 - [7] Who and what do you use then? As far as I can tell any single browser/e-mail provider can do this to you. Not that I think that this is acceptable; seriously though, more so then yesteryear, it is of the utmost importance to protect your own ass. Originally by: Akita T P.P.S. And that's why wireless is (a certain meaning of) FTL, fiber to the building and ethernet cables FTW. I can attest that fiber to the building and ethernet cables are the only reason I can undock in high sec Slade :Signature Temporarily Disabled:
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.24 16:32:00 - [8] You could always opt out - Malyutka (The Virus) -
Cornaris	Posted - 2010.04.24 19:58:00 - [9] OH GOD, MY PHONE NUMBER IS IN THIS BOOK.... AND EVERYONE IN TOWN HAS ONE!!!!11!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH HOLY, MY ADDRESS IS IN THAT BOOK TOO~~~~````11111!!!!!!!! MY PRIVACY IS GONE OH GOD EVERYONE IS GOING TO KNOW!!!!!!!!1!
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.04.24 20:12:00 - [10] While Google do lot of questionable things, this really isn't one of them. The only way someone is going to see your MAC address/SSID is if they are already in physical proximity to your network... which incidentally is the point. - Did this sig become irrelevant while I was gone? Let me know!

Dray Caldari Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.04.24 20:19:00 - [11] A bit of a non story tbh, I would be more concerned with Eric Schmidts comment about not needing to worry about privacy if you have nothing to hide, by that rationale only people with something to hide should be allowed privacy. Last thing I need is some f**king bellend telling me I can't have any privacy because it doesn't fit his world view. As for what people know about you, I'll bet Visa know just as much about me than Google.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.04.24 21:06:00 - [12] Originally by: Cornaris OH GOD, MY PHONE NUMBER IS IN THIS BOOK.... AND EVERYONE IN TOWN HAS ONE!!!!11!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH HOLY, MY ADDRESS IS IN THAT BOOK TOO~~~~````11111!!!!!!!! MY PRIVACY IS GONE OH GOD EVERYONE IS GOING TO KNOW!!!!!!!!1! Sorry, but you won't find my number or address in any phone books. True story. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Zedic Amarr Universalis Imperium	Posted - 2010.04.24 21:15:00 - [13] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Cornaris OH GOD, MY PHONE NUMBER IS IN THIS BOOK.... AND EVERYONE IN TOWN HAS ONE!!!!11!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH HOLY, MY ADDRESS IS IN THAT BOOK TOO~~~~````11111!!!!!!!! MY PRIVACY IS GONE OH GOD EVERYONE IS GOING TO KNOW!!!!!!!!1! Sorry, but you won't find my number or address in any phone books. True story. What about various mens rooms?? Bathroom stalls? "Zedic, would probably, somehow, make it all blow up." - Akima
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.04.24 21:18:00 - [14] Edited by: Blane Xero on 24/04/2010 21:18:10 Originally by: Zedic Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Cornaris OH GOD, MY PHONE NUMBER IS IN THIS BOOK.... AND EVERYONE IN TOWN HAS ONE!!!!11!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH HOLY, MY ADDRESS IS IN THAT BOOK TOO~~~~````11111!!!!!!!! MY PRIVACY IS GONE OH GOD EVERYONE IS GOING TO KNOW!!!!!!!!1! Sorry, but you won't find my number or address in any phone books. True story. What about various mens rooms?? Bathroom stalls? You sir, owe me a Coke, new monitor and keyboard. TouchT _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:08:00 - [15] Originally by: Crumplecorn While Google do lot of questionable things, this really isn't one of them. The only way someone is going to see your MAC address/SSID is if they are already in physical proximity to your network... which incidentally is the point. You do realize that Google saves every single search ever performed (meaning every term or terms that was or were entered) ? Also, Google keeps all GMail content of your account, even if you decide to "delete" it? I find that extremely questionable to be honest, because that's something I don't really want. And I don't care if it improves search results. ________________________ Store \| Apply
Whitehound The Whitehound Corporation	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:12:00 - [16] We all have passwords to hide, encryption keys to keep save, or just private e-mail that should not be read by all. The statement by the CEO was probably addressed at some paranoid press folks, who then took his sentence out of its context, because the CEO did not kiss their butts. Like, for example my above statement can be reduced to: The statement ... addressed ... their butts. So do not lose your temper over this. It has too many dumb press reporters who for once in their life want to be a hero. --
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:19:00 - [17] Originally by: Dan O'Connor You do realize that Google saves every single search ever performed (meaning every term or terms that was or were entered) ? Also, Google keeps all GMail content of your account, even if you decide to "delete" it? I find that extremely questionable to be honest, because that's something I don't really want. And I don't care if it improves search results. This is why I don't use GMail and have Tor on hand for anything I don't want recorded. - Did this sig become irrelevant while I was gone? Let me know!
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:21:00 - [18] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Dan O'Connor You do realize that Google saves every single search ever performed (meaning every term or terms that was or were entered) ? Also, Google keeps all GMail content of your account, even if you decide to "delete" it? I find that extremely questionable to be honest, because that's something I don't really want. And I don't care if it improves search results. This is why I don't use GMail and have Tor on hand for anything I don't want recorded. thumbs up ________________________ Store \| Apply
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:28:00 - [19] Originally by: Dan O'Connor thumbs up ........... ...................__ ............./¦»/'...'/¦»»`++ ........../'/.../..../......./¿»\ ........('(...¦...¦.... »~/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........''...\.......... _.+¦ ............\..............( BRO FIST - Did this sig become irrelevant while I was gone? Let me know!
Dray Caldari Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.04.24 23:32:00 - [20] Originally by: Dan O'Connor You do realize that Google saves every single search ever performed (meaning every term or terms that was or were entered) ? Also, Google keeps all GMail content of your account, even if you decide to "delete" it? I find that extremely questionable to be honest, because that's something I don't really want. And I don't care if it improves search results. Which is why you should search "midgets golden showers bisexual"at least once a month.

Micia Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.04.25 10:08:00 - [21] Quote: Google CEO Eric Schmidt recently said internet users shouldn't worry about privacy unless they have something to hide. The linked article doesn't source this; just states it. Is there a source for it? 'Cos it is a pretty dumb thing to say, if true... though I'm doubtin' it. _______ Lonewolfnight: Main screen turn on. Aralis: It's You!! Butter Dog: How are you gentlemen!!
Dray Caldari Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.04.25 10:50:00 - [22] Originally by: Micia Quote: Google CEO Eric Schmidt recently said internet users shouldn't worry about privacy unless they have something to hide. The linked article doesn't source this; just states it. Is there a source for it? 'Cos it is a pretty dumb thing to say, if true... though I'm doubtin' it. The original source is CNBC, it was an off hand comment made when he was questioned about how much access Google has to information about individuals that use Google services and whether it was an invasion of privacy, the comment was offhand but shows an amazing lack of tact and shows an a disturbing truth about Google and its attitudes. On the other hand you can help but think people invite this on themselves, I had a friend ask me why I never responded to any of his requests on face book, I told him I never use it and my wife made the account for me, I don't like the service for various reasons and if he had something important he had to tell me to pick up the phone and call me or come and see me, he thought it was funny and that I was stupid and what harm was it, he honestly thought I was being ridiculous. I then asked him what he would do if some total stranger approached him in the street and asked him questions like where he lived, was he single, did he have any photos of himself on holiday or whatever, he said quite quickly and without any hint of irony he would tell them to f**k off, maybe even report him to the police, I said but you'll put the same info on face book where millions of people you don't know have access to it to do as they please with it and you don't see a difference. He didn't see the difference or my point. The attitude of my friend is probably what encourages people like Schmidt to do and say what they think with regards to privacy. It never ceases to amaze me what people think or are willing to accept if it's packaged properly. I'm in my 40's and I know people who can't live without their mobile phone, the very same people who mocked them when they came out and laughed at others for buying one and convincing themselves they had a need for it. To me social networking is a bit meh, face book, twitter, beebo, whatever, I don't care, but some people think it's great so let them have it, I'll just stick with being a social networking Luddite and worry more about people like Schmidt telling me I have no right to privacy.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.25 13:11:00 - [23] Originally by: Dray On the other hand you can help but think people invite this on themselves, I had a friend ask me why I never responded to any of his requests on face book, I told him I never use it and my wife made the account for me, I don't like the service for various reasons and if he had something important he had to tell me to pick up the phone and call me or come and see me, he thought it was funny and that I was stupid and what harm was it, he honestly thought I was being ridiculous. I then asked him what he would do if some total stranger approached him in the street and asked him questions like where he lived, was he single, did he have any photos of himself on holiday or whatever, he said quite quickly and without any hint of irony he would tell them to f**k off, maybe even report him to the police, I said but you'll put the same info on face book where millions of people you don't know have access to it to do as they please with it and you don't see a difference. It's even being used by employers nowadays. Someone at my last workplace almost got fired over something he said on Facebook, only reason he got off the hook was because he deleted it and when the time came they couldn't actually prove it (despite everyone seeing it) - Malyutka (The Virus) -
Abrazzar	Posted - 2010.04.25 14:14:00 - [24] And things like this are the reason I keep a low profile on the internet and regularly check if my personal data can be found through Google or other means and nuke what I can if I find something. --------
Kirra Liu Echelon Holdings Echelon.	Posted - 2010.04.25 15:18:00 - [25] Why would Google want peoples MAC addresses? I do not understand what legitimate use a company would have for it. As for Eric Schmidt saying "Internet users shouldn't worry about privacy unless they have something to hide", that is just ridiculous. We have a right to privacy and living in the UK there are only certain circumstances where the police can intercept my mail, enter my property e.t.c. Yet a company thinks that because only people doing wrong have something to hide they can do whatever they like. Originally by: Cornaris OH GOD, MY PHONE NUMBER IS IN THIS BOOK.... AND EVERYONE IN TOWN HAS ONE!!!!11!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH HOLY, MY ADDRESS IS IN THAT BOOK TOO~~~~````11111!!!!!!!! MY PRIVACY IS GONE OH GOD EVERYONE IS GOING TO KNOW!!!!!!!!1! Pretty **** comment there considering that my phone number is not in the phone directory and as such, neither is my address. I have also spent a lot of time trying to erase all traces of me that show up on 123people.com.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.04.25 21:09:00 - [26] Originally by: Kirra Liu Why would Google want peoples MAC addresses? I do not understand what legitimate use a company would have for it. Geolocation. - Did this sig become irrelevant while I was gone? Let me know!
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.04.25 21:18:00 - [27] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Kirra Liu Why would Google want peoples MAC addresses? I do not understand what legitimate use a company would have for it. Geolocation. Geolocation is something they do with IPs. ________________________ Store \| Apply
illford baker EVE RONIN R-I-P	Posted - 2010.04.25 21:41:00 - [28] Edited by: illford baker on 25/04/2010 21:44:44 oh noes, Google knows! with that info on Google earth i will be pillaged and ***d by vikings! puts on a tinfoil hat* it no big deal people, get over it. and i wouldn't worry about Google getting their data hacked by china, last time they did that, Google gave em the middle finger and left. if they do it again, god help china.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.04.25 21:54:00 - [29] Originally by: Dan O'Connor Geolocation is something they do with IPs. And now MAC addresses and SSIDs, apparently. - Did this sig become irrelevant while I was gone? Let me know!
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.04.26 11:08:00 - [30] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Dan O'Connor Geolocation is something they do with IPs. And now MAC addresses and SSIDs, apparently. Who needs to to put a geo-location device in people, when you can just track them with their own personal technology Soon peoples alibis will stop checking out with ever more frequency Slade :Signature Temporarily Disabled:

Whitehound The Whitehound Corporation	Posted - 2010.04.26 11:16:00 - [31] Originally by: Abrazzar And things like this are the reason I keep a low profile on the internet and regularly check if my personal data can be found through Google or other means and nuke what I can if I find something. Your recent application for a job promotion bas been cancelled. Reason: The employee expressed his opinion on a game forum and statistically has a 1.3%-chance to suffer from an online game addiction. In his expressed opinion does he show signs of general paranoia, denial of modern Internet technology and possibly terrorist activities (=> "nuke"). Local police has been informed. We wish you a Happy Day! --
Exploding Tukey	Posted - 2010.04.26 15:27:00 - [32] Edited by: Exploding Tukey on 26/04/2010 15:26:54 It's funny how everyone starts shouting that a company knows their network SSID (something everyone around your house already knows) while ignoring the fact that dozens of companies already know so much about you. Ebay, PayPal, Even some crazy company in Iceland has gotten a hold of my credit card and started charging me for playing with spaceships.
Zedic Amarr Universalis Imperium	Posted - 2010.04.26 21:03:00 - [33] Originally by: Blane Xero You sir, owe me a Coke, new monitor and keyboard. TouchT bwahahahahha "Zedic, would probably, somehow, make it all blow up." - Akima
ChaeDoc II Gallente Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.28 01:52:00 - [34] I guess this comes down to what data they actually collected. If they were just collecting numbers like "how many poeple use wireless?" then i've no problem with that. Could be anyone. If they were collecting data that answers "Does {real name} have wireless?" then i'd have an issue about it.
Jin Nib Resplendent Knives	Posted - 2010.04.28 08:55:00 - [35] Haha I love the arrogance of driving onto private property to take pictures available to public perusal. I can't wait until they decide that all those security cameras in the UK are perfect for their next project, called "Privacy is for Loosers." What I really want them to do is start documenting floor plans so that I can go on to the net and know exactly where I'm going without having to think about it on site. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00


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