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De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.05.02 03:58:00 - [181] One thing the OP fails to take into consideration is that it is human nature to do what benefits us most. In Eve, bunching up tends to benefit people more than spreading out. It offers more competition in markets, it helps bring more goods to those markets, it offers protection and support in missions and PVP. Even in the real world, people tend to operate in groups - only a very few (percentage wise) tend to be effective operating totally alone. So until you come up with a way to change the way humans operate, your idea will only shuffle the problem around, at best. It certainly won't solve it. --Vel Originally by: Jiseinoku Mining is the path to enlightement.
Gwydion Telcontar Gallente Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.05.02 05:06:00 - [182] This is wrong in so many ways. One universe is the single greatest defining factor of making Eve as great as it is. Is is the ONLY thing that gives it the rich player-made history that no other game has... 7 years worth and counting. A sharded (sharted?) game would never be the same.
Kallieah The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.02 13:35:00 - [183] Grouping is a social crutch for people. So is having one world. Right now, it's a problem to have that one world and it seems most people want to say how bad of an idea this is without offering alternatives. At least when I cited the original problem and how the current fixes aren't working, I offered a solution too. Some other people are offering alternatives too and that's great! I totally respect you wanna keep the dinosaur idea of a single world going even though it's outlived its usefulness. I'd like to to stay that way too, but my idea is more progressive, elegant, and just downright awesome because it adds income in paid character transfers and lowers overall requirements (power, heat, hardware, etc.) For you recently posted people who are just saying you don't like the idea of lots of little EVE babies running around, I know already why you don't like it, but how are you proposing the problems with having a single world are resolved? Let's hear some totally BA to the Nth power sweet ideas about fixing it and talk about them as alternatives to the equally BA to the Nth power idea of splitting up the Big T. . Support EVE's future: Vote Cat o'Ninetails for CSM!
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.05.02 14:00:00 - [184] Originally by: Kallieah Grouping is a social crutch for people. Crutch? It's only what makes us usà Quote: At least when I cited the original problem and how the current fixes aren't working, I offered a solution too. No, you offered a structure if a solution existed û the solution part is still absent. Quote: I totally respect you wanna keep the dinosaur idea of a single world going even though it's outlived its usefulness. How so? Quote: my idea is more progressive, elegant, and just downright awesome because it adds income in paid character transfers and lowers overall requirements (power, heat, hardware, etc.) Progressive as in "let's turn back time to when the game wasn't as good"? Elegant as in "let's force people (somehow) into doing the exact opposite of what they want"? Downright awesome as in "let's remove what makes the game special"? Colour me scepticalà Quote: but how are you proposing the problems with having a single world are resolved? What problems exactly? The lag? It was already solved, but then broken again. They main issue here is that the node management cannot be spread over multiple CPUs û a software problem (which, to some extent can still be solved by throwing beefier hardware behind it as well). It certainly isn't solved by cutting the hardware up in smaller chunks because that only means it's easier to bring it to its knees when people congregateà which they will do. From your dreamy pictures, though, it rather seems like the problem you really want to see solved is that there are a lot of people and no space to call your ownà Behind it all, it rather sounds like you're arguing for a server reset more than anything. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Kallieah The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.02 14:05:00 - [185] Hi Tip! I already answered all those questions earlier in the thread and with lotsa juicy delicious detail so I won't post them all over again. But good questions anyway and I like that you're sorta thinking about a solution (more computer crunchies)! On a side note, your CEO and my executor CEO should get together to talk about getting your corp in a good alliance! You and your friends would have fun. . Support EVE's future: Vote Cat o'Ninetails for CSM!
lollerwaffle Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE	Posted - 2010.05.02 16:56:00 - [186] 8/10 Originally by: salva dore Cloak should not be AFK solution. What do you think? Originally by: AFK Cloaker
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.05.02 17:39:00 - [187] Edited by: De''Veldrin on 02/05/2010 17:39:44 Thank you for confirming this entire thread is one long troll. And just to stop the inevitable edit Originally by: Kallieah Okay, so I've been following this thread for a little while and I find myself wondering what it is you're talking about? What lag? I suspected as much, but there you have it. --Vel Originally by: Jiseinoku Mining is the path to enlightement.
AdmiralJohn The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.02 17:41:00 - [188] Originally by: De'Veldrin Edited by: De''Veldrin on 02/05/2010 17:39:44 Thank you for confirming this entire thread is one long troll. And just to stop the inevitable edit Originally by: Kallieah Okay, so I've been following this thread for a little while and I find myself wondering what it is you're talking about? What lag? I suspected as much, but there you have it. Took seven pages to reach this? Oh man, my little Kallieah has grown up <3
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.05.02 17:51:00 - [189] Originally by: AdmiralJohn Originally by: De'Veldrin Edited by: De''Veldrin on 02/05/2010 17:39:44 Thank you for confirming this entire thread is one long troll. And just to stop the inevitable edit Originally by: Kallieah Okay, so I've been following this thread for a little while and I find myself wondering what it is you're talking about? What lag? I suspected as much, but there you have it. Took seven pages to reach this? Oh man, my little Kallieah has grown up <3 This is usually the part where I lose my temper and call you an asshat. Might as well succumb to the urge. You sir, are an asshat. --Vel Originally by: Jiseinoku Mining is the path to enlightement.
AdmiralJohn The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.02 18:16:00 - [190] Originally by: De'Veldrin This is usually the part where I lose my temper and call you an asshat. Might as well succumb to the urge. You sir, are an asshat.

Kallieah The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.02 19:18:00 - [191] Originally by: Kallieah Okay, so I've been following this thread for a little while and I find myself wondering what it is you're talking about? What lag? Now that actually was trolling. This...this thread is serious business! I do think CCP should split up TQ. I know it can work becase we do it...I mean, it's been done with great success elsewhere. . Support EVE's future: Vote Cat o'Ninetails for CSM!
poenao	Posted - 2010.05.02 22:41:00 - [192] hi all, Since I can't play yet due to connection issues that we're working on I read the boards. One of the things that brought me back to this game is the fact that everyone plays within the same universe on same server basically. What you do in this game makes a difference. Buyin and selling equipment and ships, changes the economy. When people can't get through a gate because pirates are out in 0.0 playing the game how they want to play it they cry. THAT is the beauty of Eve. you want voluntary pvp go play on the test server from what I understand its voluntary over there. Everyone doing what they want playing the game how they like impacts it. Thats what makes the game...you dont like it sit in a station and rent out labs or manufacturing space..I'm coming back with an idea in my head on how I want to play...I want to build a hauling corp...hauling other peoples crap from one side of the universe to the other for em for a price. FOR anyone..pirates Isk is just as good. To try and build and get into other thingslater on.
Birdman Ravo Legion of The Birds	Posted - 2010.05.02 23:06:00 - [193] Edited by: Birdman Ravo on 02/05/2010 23:07:14 Kallieah, because of your posting Cat'oNinetails has lost my vote for CSM. I can't be seen to agree with you on anything. tl;dr Mynxee fer CSM cuz u dum. PS WoW and it's sharded servers are that way ->
failpirate	Posted - 2010.05.02 23:31:00 - [194] Originally by: Birdman Ravo Edited by: Birdman Ravo on 02/05/2010 23:07:14 Kallieah, because of your posting Cat'oNinetails has lost my vote for CSM. i hear that. did the same thing myself. i didn't vote for obama because some obama supporter trolled me.
AdmiralJohn The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.03 01:26:00 - [195] Originally by: Birdman Ravo Edited by: Birdman Ravo on 02/05/2010 23:07:14 Kallieah, because of your posting Cat'oNinetails has lost my vote for CSM. I can't be seen to agree with you on anything. tl;dr Mynxee fer CSM cuz u dum. PS WoW and it's sharded servers are that way -> I support Ankh, and you're ******ed.
Daemonspirit Redhawk Tribal Trust	Posted - 2010.05.03 01:38:00 - [196] CCP will beat this lag monster like they did the last one. The idea of a single shard is only dead in your mind and it should be good (on the current code) until around 100K concurrent (last I read). After that CCP will have to do a complete re-write. Might be off a little on my numbers, but if my memory serves me correctly, its near or at 100K. Be patient, lag will be beat again, and we can send this troll back to the Elysian Fields he came from with the rest of the Lotus eaters... ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö
Anagai Odraci Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.03 04:26:00 - [197] I see the point you are trying to make, but I can't agree with it. The one world concept of this game is the selling point for most that still play. What you propose would shatter the textured history that Eve has, and would hurt the strong social bond shared by the player base. In my opinion, your idea would kill this game for me. The one-world concept of this game is exactly why I love it. No other MMO I ever played even comes close to the cosmic soap opera that Eve is and It's all possible because it happens in one world.
Kallieah The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.03 05:07:00 - [198] You know I generally agree that I like having one world with everyone in it. Maybe I'm not as hardcore (snicker) as some people are about it having to stay that way though. Yes it has a lot of benefits, but there are many good reasons to go the other way with it too. Say, where'd that 100k number come from? I'd love to take a peek at the article just to look it over too. Thanks in advance if you have a linky! . Support EVE's future: Vote Cat o'Ninetails for CSM!
Tibalt Avalon Suck my Titan	Posted - 2010.05.03 05:09:00 - [199] Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails i think there should be a seperate server for pirates and one for the rest of us who just want to play the game in peace lol x Hardstyle Ambassador
Kallieah The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.03 05:12:00 - [200] Originally by: Tibalt Avalon Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails i think there should be a seperate server for pirates and one for the rest of us who just want to play the game in peace lol x Things like that are why I <3 Cat! Such a great sense of humor! . Support EVE's future: Vote Cat o'Ninetails for CSM!

T'Amber www.shipsofeve.com	Posted - 2010.05.03 08:37:00 - [201] Edited by: T''Amber on 03/05/2010 08:38:47 Originally by: Kallieah What do you guys think? Playing eve is like rubbing your thigh five times so that your family won't die while sitting alone, rotating in the corner with nothing but your own tears and a damp sock to sustain you. -T'amber Vote T'amber for CSM5Ö
Rashmika Clavain Gallente	Posted - 2010.05.03 10:03:00 - [202] I think this is an obvious troll
Mashie Saldana Red Federation	Posted - 2010.05.03 10:49:00 - [203] Originally by: Rashmika Clavain I think this is an obvious troll No wai!
Kallieah The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.03 13:16:00 - [204] Why do I get the feeling we're running out of constructive discussion? Not that there was a lot to be had to begin with, but eh, I tried anyway. . Support EVE's future: Vote Cat o'Ninetails for CSM!


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