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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.05.01 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: gpfault
Originally by: Bellum Eternus LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Pretty good troll however.
Just because William's idea conflicts with your idea of how the game should be played doesn't mean it should be instantly dismissed as a troll. Personally I feel EVE is too heavily stacked in favour of the unsavoury sorts (pirates, greifers, etc) and William's idea is the only fair way of rectifying this situation without introducing arbitray gameplay limitations (eg. WoW-esque PVP flagging). Making anti-social play hit pirates where it hurts, their (parents) credit cards, should make them think twice about engaging in such behavoir.
Removed comment unrelated to the game - Adida
Me calling his post a troll is the only way I can justify it being on the forum. It's simply too stupid of an idea to be otherwise. And He can't possibly be that stupid, right?
Second: you're wrong on all counts. If you want to play an MMO that has no PVP aspects and no personal cost when *you* make a mistake, go play Hello Kitty Online. -
Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. |
FunzzeR
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.05.01 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: gpfault
Originally by: Bellum Eternus LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Pretty good troll however.
Just because William's idea conflicts with your idea of how the game should be played doesn't mean it should be instantly dismissed as a troll. Personally I feel EVE is too heavily stacked in favour of the unsavoury sorts (pirates, greifers, etc) and William's idea is the only fair way of rectifying this situation without introducing arbitray gameplay limitations (eg. WoW-esque PVP flagging). Making anti-social play hit pirates where it hurts, their (parents) credit cards, should make them think twice about engaging in such behavoir.
Removed comment unrelated to the game - Adida
Me calling his post a troll is the only way I can justify it being on the forum. It's simply too stupid of an idea to be otherwise. And He can't possibly be that stupid, right?
Second: you're wrong on all counts. If you want to play an MMO that has no PVP aspects and no personal cost when *you* make a mistake, go play Hello Kitty Online.
DING DING we have a winner ladies and gentlemen!!
To the subject at hand, from business perspective it would be suicide to charge a HUGE(he stated ALL pvp, not just piracy) segment of the EVE population more money per month.
But yeah excellent troll otherwise, it put a smile on my face. PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
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Marcus Henik
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Posted - 2010.05.01 23:28:00 -
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so the w-hole that my corp has staked as its territory cannot be defended against tourists who stip out the good ore and run the sights b4 we get the chance to harvest? silly just plain silly.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.05.02 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: William DeMeo Hi,
My name is William Demeo (ingame). I would like to make proposal for game of EvE Online. I will make general discussion of subject matter, so I hope this is correct place to do so.
I want to discuss the issue of human players who are pretending to be NPC rats. That is uncivil, and I do not belief that is the whole point of this multiplayer game.
In current status of the game, players are free to PK other human being players at will. If they do so in high security solar systems and they do not have legitimate basis for their actions (war target, kill rights, anti-piracy, etc), they will be made into pod by intervention of Concord forces, or the local Faction Patrol.
Fair enough so far.
But imagine this scene - you are in a low security solar system. I know you get a warning message when you initiate jump into such a system, but to be honest, don't we all just make click of "yes" on every confirmatory dialog box pop up window?
So continuing with the exemplary scene of example. Imagine you are in a hauler, carrying valuable skill training books for your entire corporation. You jump in to low security solar system, and your cellular telephome starts ringing. Since you specifically assigned a special tone to your girlfriend, and that tone is playinf right now, you know it is your girlfriend who is making a call to you.
You say "OK, I have 1 minute of cloaked time at this side of the gate, I will make short talk with my girl friend in that time frame, and come back to travel on in the game".
Nice thinking, but not always practical. I say so because this has happened to me IRL.
Because IRL matters are not that simple, and cannot be predicted as easily as ingame events.
I mean for example if you could hold your cloak of invisibility at the gate after you jump, say, until you press another key, any key (including mouse buttons), that would be fair in my opinion of thought.
But for example, let's say you went for a toilet break after you jumped into low security solar system. You know you have 1 minutes of cloaked time, and you are affirmative you can complete your toilet break under 1 minute.
But what if there is a line of waiting at the toilet?? (This also happened to me, FYI)
To be honest, I do not like the way EvE Online game is in such ways detached from realities of IRL. Not fair.
So my proposal is this:
Make pirating human players (those who PK spaceships of other human beings) pay more IRL money for their monthly subscription.
It is obvious these kind of players (pirates) make the game play experience worse for peaceful players already. The security status is a joke, they just get an alternative character and haul stuff with that. Not even remotely balancing. Nowhere near discouraging.
But if every pirate pays, say, 0.1 more monthly for every human player they killed within the past month, I do believe we could make better pace in the everlasting battle of eliminating all criminals from the game.
I do believe this is only a slight punishment the way I have exemplified above, but I am also aware it already too much for the EvE Online gaming community to absorb. That is why I am not posting this post in Crime & Punishment forum. I would probably be podded 10 times every day if I did so.
I would very much like to hear your views on my proposal, and I thank you for your attention if you read my postage of discussion this far.
Fly safe.
What you just said ...
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.05.02 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn 0/10
Too obvious.
Funny though.
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Dirk Mortice
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Posted - 2010.05.02 09:40:00 -
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At first I thought this might not be a good idea, but then last week I got caught in a queue for the bathroom and then got called by my boyfriend (I'm gay). In the meantime, I was sitting using my 60 seconds of cloak time in lowsec, and unfortunately I got back 1 second too late :(:( RIP my mining bantam.
That people should be allowed to grief like this is ridiculous in modern times. Something must be done
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Cpt Iwan
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.02 10:24:00 -
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LOL, very funny :)
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Kiri Serrensun
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Posted - 2010.05.02 12:04:00 -
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He tries a bit too hard with "cloak of invisibility".
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Vladina Krematoria
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Posted - 2010.05.02 13:01:00 -
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imho opinion low sec piracy is an essential element of keeping Eve exciting fun frustrating and challenging as are mercenary corps/Alliances etc. However those who prey on noobs by can baiting flipping and suicide ganking in high sec are more of a sympton of a dangerous thing in mmorpg the boredom that comes from mediocrity.
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Musical Fist
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.05.02 13:35:00 -
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This is being featured in the next expansion, you also received a newsletter explaining the changes, piracy goes against the EULA as it is direct greifing.
While your idea isnt fully implemented there is a lite version being made here This is so not my main
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I SoStoned
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.02 15:35:00 -
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Simple fix: Get rid of the ball-&-chain (i.e. GF) = PROFIT! --- Dreamer: My dream, Freddy! MY RULES. Freddy Kruger: *groans* Awwwww, f**k. --- Never give up! |
Don Pellegrino
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.05.02 15:42:00 -
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This is absolutly not a trollthread.
Punishing pirates in game is not enough, I think they should pay more than $15 per month for eve. Also, they should pay more taxes IRL.
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Flying ZombieJesus
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Posted - 2010.05.02 19:23:00 -
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Edited by: Flying ZombieJesus on 02/05/2010 19:23:44 This is possibly the worst idea I've ever heard since "make pirates pay for game time in human test ticles"
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Talinthi
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Posted - 2010.05.02 22:47:00 -
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this is a terrible idea and would probably end up killing the game. all the carebears crying about losing ships to accidently going into losec or losing them to suicide ganks in empire well those are all avoidable just by actually using your brain. if you dont want to use your brain well thats your problem. carebear tears are so funny when their so ill thought out.
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Tibalt Avalon
Suck my Titan
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Posted - 2010.05.03 05:27:00 -
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Edited by: Tibalt Avalon on 03/05/2010 05:27:39 Hi,
My name is Tibalt Avalon (ingame). I would like to make proposal. William DeMeo: Your an Idiot. Hardstyle Ambassador |
Zitus
NON PROPERO
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Posted - 2010.05.03 07:53:00 -
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ROFL
oh man.. 2/10 because of your sad attempt at Formal English.
Pirates should be punished because you had to use the toilet... ahhh that's one I've not heard before.
but no really, not supported. GB2WOW Noob ------------------ I'm not sure if my eyes are actually bleeding, or if it's merely my brain bleeding out through my eye sockets, but either way, it hurts to read what you just wrote |
Rico Minali
Gallente Sons Of 0din Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.05.03 10:05:00 -
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Hello Kitty THAT WAY >>>>>>>
Oh, by the way, you suck. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.05.03 15:27:00 -
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I would pay more for my subscription if when I kill your character, the character is dead. No clone. Dead.
This signature is useless, but it is red.
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Graugaard
Minmatar Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.03 15:55:00 -
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LOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOOOLL WTF go back to WOW if you cant take the hard part of EVE.
IMO everyone should have a mod which cost 1 isk, could be bought on all stations and was passive. When you fit it your invulnerable m'kay?!!
And what if the pirates pay PLEX's? then an extra Fee of 50mill isk will be added on like CSPA xD? *sigh* |
steave435
Caldari Final Agony B A N E
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Posted - 2010.05.03 17:15:00 -
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I can't believe there are so many actually biting :P
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Raimo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.03 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: steave435 I can't believe there are so many actually biting :P
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Jish Ness
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Posted - 2010.05.04 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Raimo
Originally by: steave435 I can't believe there are so many actually biting :P
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Manalapan
Dynasty Banking General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.04 03:21:00 -
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I can't believe I am even posting in this thread but absolutely not. You can't be biased against how people want to play the game. What if CCP and its intese love for PVP said everyone with a possible sec status had to pay more for their subscription. It is a terrible idea. Support Manalapan for CSM!
We must stand together against the oppressive neo-carebears. A vote for Manalapan is a vote for Scammers and Griefers everywhere!
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Stil Harkonnen
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Posted - 2010.05.04 04:42:00 -
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0/10 this is sad
should be banned
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.05.04 09:03:00 -
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Made me laugh, good troll.
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fmercury
Club Bear HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.04 16:33:00 -
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supported
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Ancy Denaries
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Posted - 2010.05.05 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn 0/10
Too obvious.
Funny though.
This. I can't believe how easily trolled some people are :D ---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog
Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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EdTeach
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Posted - 2010.05.05 21:06:00 -
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It is almost a good idea, but entered the epic fail zone when it went to losec. You go to losec/nulsec/wspace... you take your chances.
Now in hisec... Concord offers consequences, but not protection. The consequences are obviously too low, as one can find suicide-gank grief squads anywhere you find high-end mission running. Who hasn't seen the wad of sensor-boosted fully-insured cheap BSs waiting for a Tengu to undock?
Make the consequences a tad stiffer for obvious non-wardec, hisec griefing. One day ban every time a hisec illegal kill takes place. Three day ban after the 5th kill within 30 days.
Not too harsh for those who still cannot live without carebear tears or really must have the loot from that iti5 full of BPCs, yet may tweak the killing down a tad on those who just want to play with their shineys in hisec.
Another alternative is all insurance is voided for any player who takes part in non-sanctioned hisec pvp as the aggressor. This option would allow for serious griefers to not only get a kill, but possibly get a newb to aggress first and lose his insurance as well as his ship.
Just a mental exercise really, as nothing like this will ever happen.
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.06 03:31:00 -
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I hate calling people stupid, so I'll just acknowledge that even smart people sometimes have stupid ideas and leave it at that.
In-game actions get in-game punishements, up to and including exile (banning). That's it, what happens in game, stays in game.
Do you really think that CCP are going to monetarily penalise people for being active in keeping the game alive and healthy. It just doesn't make marketing or commercial sense in any way. ______________________ Agony Unleashed Home of the PvP University. |
Asuri Kinnes
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.06 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: steave435 I can't believe there are so many actually biting :P
Your just another cynical old vet... :P Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
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