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William DeMeo
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.30 16:24:00 -
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Hi,
My name is William Demeo (ingame). I would like to make proposal for game of EvE Online. I will make general discussion of subject matter, so I hope this is correct place to do so.
I want to discuss the issue of human players who are pretending to be NPC rats. That is uncivil, and I do not belief that is the whole point of this multiplayer game.
In current status of the game, players are free to PK other human being players at will. If they do so in high security solar systems and they do not have legitimate basis for their actions (war target, kill rights, anti-piracy, etc), they will be made into pod by intervention of Concord forces, or the local Faction Patrol.
Fair enough so far.
But imagine this scene - you are in a low security solar system. I know you get a warning message when you initiate jump into such a system, but to be honest, don't we all just make click of "yes" on every confirmatory dialog box pop up window?
So continuing with the exemplary scene of example. Imagine you are in a hauler, carrying valuable skill training books for your entire corporation. You jump in to low security solar system, and your cellular telephome starts ringing. Since you specifically assigned a special tone to your girlfriend, and that tone is playinf right now, you know it is your girlfriend who is making a call to you.
You say "OK, I have 1 minute of cloaked time at this side of the gate, I will make short talk with my girl friend in that time frame, and come back to travel on in the game".
Nice thinking, but not always practical. I say so because this has happened to me IRL.
Because IRL matters are not that simple, and cannot be predicted as easily as ingame events.
I mean for example if you could hold your cloak of invisibility at the gate after you jump, say, until you press another key, any key (including mouse buttons), that would be fair in my opinion of thought.
But for example, let's say you went for a toilet break after you jumped into low security solar system. You know you have 1 minutes of cloaked time, and you are affirmative you can complete your toilet break under 1 minute.
But what if there is a line of waiting at the toilet?? (This also happened to me, FYI)
To be honest, I do not like the way EvE Online game is in such ways detached from realities of IRL. Not fair.
So my proposal is this:
Make pirating human players (those who PK spaceships of other human beings) pay more IRL money for their monthly subscription.
It is obvious these kind of players (pirates) make the game play experience worse for peaceful players already. The security status is a joke, they just get an alternative character and haul stuff with that. Not even remotely balancing. Nowhere near discouraging.
But if every pirate pays, say, 0.1 more monthly for every human player they killed within the past month, I do believe we could make better pace in the everlasting battle of eliminating all criminals from the game.
I do believe this is only a slight punishment the way I have exemplified above, but I am also aware it already too much for the EvE Online gaming community to absorb. That is why I am not posting this post in Crime & Punishment forum. I would probably be podded 10 times every day if I did so.
I would very much like to hear your views on my proposal, and I thank you for your attention if you read my postage of discussion this far.
Fly safe.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.30 16:33:00 -
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Horrible, horrible idea. The ability to pirate is part of the game.
Also, pirates don't just grief players - Take fw for example, when the enemy militia is in a downswing, pirates often provide the bulk of pew pew available due to their "we'll shoot anyone" stance.
Piracy is a valid lifestyle - I admit changes need to be made with suicide ganks and insurance payouts, but once you hit lowsec - It's the wild, wild west.
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Gunnanmon
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.04.30 16:42:00 -
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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
Monks of War.
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Posted - 2010.04.30 16:48:00 -
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Actually it's got to be vice versa - pirates should pay less since they're playing @ hard mode and doing the most unthankfull job in the whole game, effectively allowing CCP to claim EVE as a MMORPG game.
Get real - are there any other roles out there? Miner/manufacturer? Ok, anything else? A regular soldier? R-r-right... Piracy is just the very juice of EVE (or at least that's how things should be arranged), those who embraced this path deserve an honest praise.
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ShahFluffers
Gallente
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.04.30 17:30:00 -
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Wait... let me get this straight:
you want to PENALIZE the very essence that makes this game unique?
Sorry, but the stated theme (by the Developers I might add) is that this is a PvP game.
If you have to go to the bathroom and can't "mother" your fragile ship with its expensive cargo, dock up. If your GF calls and you're in fleet or in the middle of doing something, excuse yourself and dock up (if your corp or friends give you **** for this tell them the cardinal rule of gaming, "real life comes first").
In short:
You're not glued to the computer. You can do things to make yourself safe. Outside of cloaking in a safespot or docking in a station, NEVER assume you are safe... ESPECIALLY in low-sec (of all places).
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Thanatos Revolution
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Posted - 2010.04.30 17:50:00 -
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Fail.
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Di Mulle
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Posted - 2010.04.30 18:06:00 -
[7]
hey ! 
Ever considered a comedian career ?
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.30 18:07:00 -
[8]
I have nothing intelligent to say here, so I will simply say this is a horrible idea.
--Vel
 Originally by: Jiseinoku
Mining is the path to enlightement.
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Marius Prime
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Posted - 2010.04.30 18:18:00 -
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This is worth idea in entire history scince King Olaf The Hairy ordered 500 Norse battlehelmets with the spikes on the inside.
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Zilberfrid
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Posted - 2010.04.30 18:27:00 -
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Shoot my ship, pod me and kill my kittens if I jump into a low sec system and go AFK without any sort of defense mechanism. Low sec is not safe, it should feel dangerous, part of the excitement of the game is that you are not alone, and many wish to prey on you. Making the elements that give this atmosphere pay in game is a bad enough idea (more than they pay now in sec hits), but taking it to the real world is a very stupid plan.
There are three realities, the in character stuff (which ship you fly, which factions like you etc), the person playing it (tactic, communication with other players), and the world outside eve (your girlfriend calling, logging out of eve because you want to do other stuff -which might be something you need to look into-, your bank account).
Mixing the first two is no problem, the third however, should have a minimal impact to the game. Of course you can buy GTC's, and friends who play eve will chat with you, but your actions in the game should not bleed out to actions outside of the game.
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Amarr Supremacist
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Posted - 2010.04.30 18:46:00 -
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Supporting this, good idea!
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NereSky
Gallente
Maelstrom Crew
Paradigm Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.30 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Marius Prime
This is worth idea in entire history scince King Olaf The Hairy ordered 500 Norse battlehelmets with the spikes on the inside.
Lol - was that from BlackAdder?
Theres never a day that go's by in Eve where someone makes me laugh - thanks for the giggle op :)
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hgedsku
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Posted - 2010.04.30 19:23:00 -
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This is just a straight up terrible x 1000 idea, I'ma go pod you 10 times now for being an idiot
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greymouse
Minmatar
Black Eclipse Corp
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Posted - 2010.04.30 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
Horrible, horrible idea. The ability to pirate is part of the game.
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Piracy is a valid lifestyle - I admit changes need to be made with suicide ganks and insurance payouts, but once you hit lowsec - It's the wild, wild west.
Ba-dingo!!! My objection is to the high-sec piracy/suicide ganking. I see a need to severely limit it. But once out of high-sec, into low- or null-sec... all bets are off. Jumping out of the safe zone draws a big red target on you!!
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Zostera
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.30 20:39:00 -
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Vote William DeMeo for CSM.
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KaiserSoze434
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Posted - 2010.04.30 20:39:00 -
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Your idea is horrible. You owe me 25 cents IRL for wasting my time. I award you no points, and may good have mercy on your soul.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.04.30 21:05:00 -
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0/10
Too obvious.
Funny though.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.04.30 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: KaiserSoze434
Your idea is horrible. You owe me 25 cents IRL for wasting my time. I award you no points, and may good have mercy on your soul.
so cheap? you should ask for more ;)
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B1FF
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Posted - 2010.04.30 21:17:00 -
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Game and life are seperate. Please learn the difference.
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Tilaya Miknotti
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Posted - 2010.04.30 22:18:00 -
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This is space, not candy-land where we all hold hands and skip through the meadow.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.04.30 23:36:00 -
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Pretty good troll however.
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
Bellum Eternus
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.05.01 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: William DeMeo
That is uncivil, and I do not belief that is the whole point of this multiplayer game.
LOL!
Originally by: William DeMeo
So continuing with the exemplary scene of example. Imagine you are in a hauler, carrying valuable skill training books for your entire corporation. You jump in to low security solar system
Skills go in your head not in your cargohold.
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Dianeces
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.01 00:38:00 -
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This idea would bring some much needed balance to the pirating aspect of the game.
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WasahB
Project Nemesis
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Posted - 2010.05.01 03:37:00 -
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Edited by: WasahB on 01/05/2010 03:37:02
If Intigo and Dianeces support, then this obviously must be a solid idea.
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mazzilliu
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.01 05:45:00 -
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this reeks of a good idea
MAZZILLIU FOR CSM 2010 |
gpfault
NQX Innovations
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.05.01 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Pretty good troll however.
Just because William's idea conflicts with your idea of how the game should be played doesn't mean it should be instantly dismissed as a troll. Personally I feel EVE is too heavily stacked in favour of the unsavoury sorts (pirates, greifers, homosexuals, etc) and William's idea is the only fair way of rectifying this situation without introducing arbitray gameplay limitations (eg. WoW-esque PVP flagging). Making anti-social play hit pirates where it hurts, their (parents) credit cards, should make them think twice about engaging in such behavoir.
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EdFromHumanResources
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.01 11:52:00 -
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I think anyone that would harm another player's hard earned assets deserves to pay behind in game. I fully support this idea.
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McDuglas
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Posted - 2010.05.01 15:10:00 -
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LOL
BTW mad idea... I mean, this is kinda' reality simulation, in terms of punishment... Just you can't die... So called "piracy" is a lifestyle... Well... I don't know if i'm a pirate... Can anyone describe me pirates in eve...
I mean, I'm on NBSI - That means, if its a hauler, if its a Battleship, i don't care... I'll just try to kill it, without makeing a suicide...
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Olius
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Posted - 2010.05.01 15:10:00 -
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fail proposal is fail
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CommanderData211
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Posted - 2010.05.01 20:51:00 -
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To all who are supporting this nonsense, a few things must be remembered. EVE is neither a PVP game or a PVE game it is both. But what makes EVE what it is, is the fact that both need to be taken into consideration on the players part. PVP can happen anywhere, and it is not limited to blowing stuff up. Market PVP is just as important to industrialists and carebears as it is to dyed in the wool PVPers.
So with your idea I will be charged more money for participating in activities that are specifically designed to make the game function the way it does. When I blow up a ship I will be charged more money? When I modify a market order to make a sale, I will be charged more money?
If you fly into LOW-SEC and then rely on your jump cloak to keep you safe while you take a phone call or use the bathroom, you deserve all you get. Dock up before you take the call, or better yet, don't go into low-sec if you are waiting for a call, or even better yet, do BOTH at the same time. It's not that hard to talk on the phone and play EVE at the same time.
There are so many ridiculous holes in this idea I can't even stand to comment on it further.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.05.01 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: gpfault
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Pretty good troll however.
Just because William's idea conflicts with your idea of how the game should be played doesn't mean it should be instantly dismissed as a troll. Personally I feel EVE is too heavily stacked in favour of the unsavoury sorts (pirates, greifers, etc) and William's idea is the only fair way of rectifying this situation without introducing arbitray gameplay limitations (eg. WoW-esque PVP flagging). Making anti-social play hit pirates where it hurts, their (parents) credit cards, should make them think twice about engaging in such behavoir.
Removed comment unrelated to the game - Adida
Me calling his post a troll is the only way I can justify it being on the forum. It's simply too stupid of an idea to be otherwise. And He can't possibly be that stupid, right?
Second: you're wrong on all counts. If you want to play an MMO that has no PVP aspects and no personal cost when *you* make a mistake, go play Hello Kitty Online.
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.05.01 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: gpfault
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Pretty good troll however.
Just because William's idea conflicts with your idea of how the game should be played doesn't mean it should be instantly dismissed as a troll. Personally I feel EVE is too heavily stacked in favour of the unsavoury sorts (pirates, greifers, etc) and William's idea is the only fair way of rectifying this situation without introducing arbitray gameplay limitations (eg. WoW-esque PVP flagging). Making anti-social play hit pirates where it hurts, their (parents) credit cards, should make them think twice about engaging in such behavoir.
Removed comment unrelated to the game - Adida
Me calling his post a troll is the only way I can justify it being on the forum. It's simply too stupid of an idea to be otherwise. And He can't possibly be that stupid, right?
Second: you're wrong on all counts. If you want to play an MMO that has no PVP aspects and no personal cost when *you* make a mistake, go play Hello Kitty Online.
DING DING we have a winner ladies and gentlemen!!
To the subject at hand, from business perspective it would be suicide to charge a HUGE(he stated ALL pvp, not just piracy) segment of the EVE population more money per month.
But yeah excellent troll otherwise, it put a smile on my face.
PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
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Marcus Henik
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Posted - 2010.05.01 23:28:00 -
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so the w-hole that my corp has staked as its territory cannot be defended against tourists who stip out the good ore and run the sights b4 we get the chance to harvest? silly just plain silly.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.05.02 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: William DeMeo
Hi,
My name is William Demeo (ingame). I would like to make proposal for game of EvE Online. I will make general discussion of subject matter, so I hope this is correct place to do so.
I want to discuss the issue of human players who are pretending to be NPC rats. That is uncivil, and I do not belief that is the whole point of this multiplayer game.
In current status of the game, players are free to PK other human being players at will. If they do so in high security solar systems and they do not have legitimate basis for their actions (war target, kill rights, anti-piracy, etc), they will be made into pod by intervention of Concord forces, or the local Faction Patrol.
Fair enough so far.
But imagine this scene - you are in a low security solar system. I know you get a warning message when you initiate jump into such a system, but to be honest, don't we all just make click of "yes" on every confirmatory dialog box pop up window?
So continuing with the exemplary scene of example. Imagine you are in a hauler, carrying valuable skill training books for your entire corporation. You jump in to low security solar system, and your cellular telephome starts ringing. Since you specifically assigned a special tone to your girlfriend, and that tone is playinf right now, you know it is your girlfriend who is making a call to you.
You say "OK, I have 1 minute of cloaked time at this side of the gate, I will make short talk with my girl friend in that time frame, and come back to travel on in the game".
Nice thinking, but not always practical. I say so because this has happened to me IRL.
Because IRL matters are not that simple, and cannot be predicted as easily as ingame events.
I mean for example if you could hold your cloak of invisibility at the gate after you jump, say, until you press another key, any key (including mouse buttons), that would be fair in my opinion of thought.
But for example, let's say you went for a toilet break after you jumped into low security solar system. You know you have 1 minutes of cloaked time, and you are affirmative you can complete your toilet break under 1 minute.
But what if there is a line of waiting at the toilet?? (This also happened to me, FYI)
To be honest, I do not like the way EvE Online game is in such ways detached from realities of IRL. Not fair.
So my proposal is this:
Make pirating human players (those who PK spaceships of other human beings) pay more IRL money for their monthly subscription.
It is obvious these kind of players (pirates) make the game play experience worse for peaceful players already. The security status is a joke, they just get an alternative character and haul stuff with that. Not even remotely balancing. Nowhere near discouraging.
But if every pirate pays, say, 0.1 more monthly for every human player they killed within the past month, I do believe we could make better pace in the everlasting battle of eliminating all criminals from the game.
I do believe this is only a slight punishment the way I have exemplified above, but I am also aware it already too much for the EvE Online gaming community to absorb. That is why I am not posting this post in Crime & Punishment forum. I would probably be podded 10 times every day if I did so.
I would very much like to hear your views on my proposal, and I thank you for your attention if you read my postage of discussion this far.
Fly safe.
What you just said ...
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.05.02 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
0/10
Too obvious.
Funny though.
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Dirk Mortice
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Posted - 2010.05.02 09:40:00 -
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At first I thought this might not be a good idea, but then last week I got caught in a queue for the bathroom and then got called by my boyfriend (I'm gay). In the meantime, I was sitting using my 60 seconds of cloak time in lowsec, and unfortunately I got back 1 second too late :(:( RIP my mining bantam.
That people should be allowed to grief like this is ridiculous in modern times. Something must be done
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Cpt Iwan
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.02 10:24:00 -
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LOL, very funny :)
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Kiri Serrensun
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Posted - 2010.05.02 12:04:00 -
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He tries a bit too hard with "cloak of invisibility".
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Vladina Krematoria
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Posted - 2010.05.02 13:01:00 -
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imho opinion low sec piracy is an essential element of keeping Eve exciting fun frustrating and challenging as are mercenary corps/Alliances etc. However those who prey on noobs by can baiting flipping and suicide ganking in high sec are more of a sympton of a dangerous thing in mmorpg the boredom that comes from mediocrity.
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Musical Fist
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.05.02 13:35:00 -
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This is being featured in the next expansion, you also received a newsletter explaining the changes, piracy goes against the EULA as it is direct greifing.
While your idea isnt fully implemented there is a lite version being made here
This is so not my main
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I SoStoned
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.02 15:35:00 -
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Simple fix: Get rid of the ball-&-chain (i.e. GF) = PROFIT!
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Don Pellegrino
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.05.02 15:42:00 -
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This is absolutly not a trollthread.
Punishing pirates in game is not enough, I think they should pay more than $15 per month for eve.
Also, they should pay more taxes IRL.
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Flying ZombieJesus
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Posted - 2010.05.02 19:23:00 -
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Edited by: Flying ZombieJesus on 02/05/2010 19:23:44
This is possibly the worst idea I've ever heard since "make pirates pay for game time in human test ticles"
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Talinthi
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Posted - 2010.05.02 22:47:00 -
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this is a terrible idea and would probably end up killing the game. all the carebears crying about losing ships to accidently going into losec or losing them to suicide ganks in empire well those are all avoidable just by actually using your brain. if you dont want to use your brain well thats your problem. carebear tears are so funny when their so ill thought out.
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Tibalt Avalon
Suck my Titan
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Posted - 2010.05.03 05:27:00 -
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Edited by: Tibalt Avalon on 03/05/2010 05:27:39
Hi,
My name is Tibalt Avalon (ingame). I would like to make proposal. William DeMeo: Your an Idiot.
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Zitus
NON PROPERO
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Posted - 2010.05.03 07:53:00 -
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ROFL
oh man.. 2/10 because of your sad attempt at Formal English.
Pirates should be punished because you had to use the toilet... ahhh that's one I've not heard before.
but no really, not supported. GB2WOW Noob
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Rico Minali
Gallente
Sons Of 0din
Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.05.03 10:05:00 -
[47]
Hello Kitty THAT WAY >>>>>>>
Oh, by the way, you suck.
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.05.03 15:27:00 -
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I would pay more for my subscription if when I kill your character, the character is dead. No clone. Dead.
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Graugaard
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.03 15:55:00 -
[49]
LOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOOOLL WTF go back to WOW if you cant take the hard part of EVE.
IMO everyone should have a mod which cost 1 isk, could be bought on all stations and was passive. When you fit it your invulnerable m'kay?!!
And what if the pirates pay PLEX's? then an extra Fee of 50mill isk will be added on like CSPA xD?
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steave435
Caldari
Final Agony
B A N E
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Posted - 2010.05.03 17:15:00 -
[50]
I can't believe there are so many actually biting :P
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Raimo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.03 18:02:00 -
[51]
Originally by: steave435
I can't believe there are so many actually biting :P
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Jish Ness
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Posted - 2010.05.04 03:03:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Raimo
Originally by: steave435
I can't believe there are so many actually biting :P
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Manalapan
Dynasty Banking
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.04 03:21:00 -
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I can't believe I am even posting in this thread but absolutely not. You can't be biased against how people want to play the game. What if CCP and its intese love for PVP said everyone with a possible sec status had to pay more for their subscription. It is a terrible idea.
Support Manalapan for CSM!
We must stand together against the oppressive neo-carebears. A vote for Manalapan is a vote for Scammers and Griefers everywhere!
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Stil Harkonnen
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Posted - 2010.05.04 04:42:00 -
[54]
0/10
this is sad
should be banned
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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.05.04 09:03:00 -
[55]
Made me laugh, good troll.
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fmercury
Club Bear
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.04 16:33:00 -
[56]
supported
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Ancy Denaries
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Posted - 2010.05.05 05:16:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Crumplecorn
0/10
Too obvious.
Funny though.
This. I can't believe how easily trolled some people are :D
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Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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EdTeach
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Posted - 2010.05.05 21:06:00 -
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It is almost a good idea, but entered the epic fail zone when it went to losec. You go to losec/nulsec/wspace... you take your chances.
Now in hisec... Concord offers consequences, but not protection. The consequences are obviously too low, as one can find suicide-gank grief squads anywhere you find high-end mission running. Who hasn't seen the wad of sensor-boosted fully-insured cheap BSs waiting for a Tengu to undock?
Make the consequences a tad stiffer for obvious non-wardec, hisec griefing. One day ban every time a hisec illegal kill takes place. Three day ban after the 5th kill within 30 days.
Not too harsh for those who still cannot live without carebear tears or really must have the loot from that iti5 full of BPCs, yet may tweak the killing down a tad on those who just want to play with their shineys in hisec.
Another alternative is all insurance is voided for any player who takes part in non-sanctioned hisec pvp as the aggressor. This option would allow for serious griefers to not only get a kill, but possibly get a newb to aggress first and lose his insurance as well as his ship.
Just a mental exercise really, as nothing like this will ever happen.
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Gallente
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Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.06 03:31:00 -
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I hate calling people stupid, so I'll just acknowledge that even smart people sometimes have stupid ideas and leave it at that.
In-game actions get in-game punishements, up to and including exile (banning). That's it, what happens in game, stays in game.
Do you really think that CCP are going to monetarily penalise people for being active in keeping the game alive and healthy. It just doesn't make marketing or commercial sense in any way.
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Asuri Kinnes
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.06 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: steave435
I can't believe there are so many actually biting :P
Your just another cynical old vet... :P
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Herr Wilkus
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Posted - 2010.05.06 08:28:00 -
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Oh Yeah? Well, I'd just buy PLEX off the market and say FUUUUUUUUU!
Your move.
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dontknowaboutmyships
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Posted - 2010.05.07 00:10:00 -
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Hi there, total carebare atm.
Your idea is stupid.
Go play Hello Kitty Island Adventures instead of EVE.
Piracy=MoarFun
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Helmh0ltz
Blue is the New Red
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Posted - 2010.05.07 01:20:00 -
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You wouldn't happen to be an Ankhesentapemkah alt would you?
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Peter Powers
FinFleet
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.07 10:25:00 -
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lol, will..
nice troll.
wanna post a bit about your history in various pirate corps? :p
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SFShootme
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
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Posted - 2010.05.07 10:50:00 -
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I too, fully support this idea. Pirates are bad people and should have to pay more IRL money to play this game.
But you didn't have to lie to us tough, your girlfriend calling was actually your mother shouting to do the dishes. Internetspaceship pilots don't have girlfriends.
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Nieusha
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Posted - 2010.05.07 11:43:00 -
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tell you girlfriend to stfu while you're playing eve.
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Eli Porter
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Posted - 2010.05.07 12:46:00 -
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Not supported. This is simply not enough to deter piracy.
I suggest CCP forms an international law authority for anything EVE related. Killed a hauler? Well that's your call as a player but you made your choice. A petition will be automatically made by the hauler and the CCP Police will be knocking on your door in no less than 5 business days. The Police will take you to the top secret CCP prison inside the Eyjafjallaj÷kull Volcano and you will be put into special disciplinary clinics until you are deemed eligible to play.
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Helmh0ltz
Blue is the New Red
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Posted - 2010.05.07 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Eli Porter
Not supported. This is simply not enough to deter piracy.
I suggest CCP forms an international law authority for anything EVE related. Killed a hauler? Well that's your call as a player but you made your choice. A petition will be automatically made by the hauler and the CCP Police will be knocking on your door in no less than 5 business days. The Police will take you to the top secret CCP prison inside the Eyjafjallaj÷kull Volcano and you will be put into special disciplinary clinics until you are deemed eligible to play.
This. You should make it a proposal. I can think of at least 1 CSM candidate who would definitely support this.
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Posted - 2010.05.07 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Eli Porter
Not supported. This is simply not enough to deter piracy.
I suggest CCP forms an international law authority for anything EVE related. Killed a hauler? Well that's your call as a player but you made your choice. A petition will be automatically made by the hauler and the CCP Police will be knocking on your door in no less than 5 business days. The Police will take you to the top secret CCP prison inside the Eyjafjallaj÷kull Volcano and you will be put into special disciplinary clinics until you are deemed eligible to play.
That sounds rather kinky, now, where was my tempest...
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