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Chereadenine Zakalwe
Caldari atrum ones
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Posted - 2010.05.25 08:45:00 -
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Edited by: Chereadenine Zakalwe on 25/05/2010 08:49:04
Originally by: Ontaku Oroa
Once the situation stabilizes

One of the new "holder" corp members told me that between organised (CVA/PXF etc) roaming gangs and the various other combat groups operating in the area. Providence was a hellhole and that he (and various other corp members) were less than pleased that their CEO moved them there.
During the conversation, said pilot told me they were desperate to recruit any meatshield possible,to help take the weight off the remaing corp pilots
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.25 10:35:00 -
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Sounds like an informed opinion.
New Providence is populated. It's working. Sorry you're bitter about that, but we really don't care what you think. The facts and figures speak for themselves. ----------
~bitter dog~
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Chereadenine Zakalwe
Caldari atrum ones
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Posted - 2010.05.25 10:54:00 -
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Edited by: Chereadenine Zakalwe on 25/05/2010 10:54:24
Not bitter my friend. Just speaking from first hand experience. Now you have facts and figures you say..care to share them?
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Rorin Cutter
Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.25 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ituralde
Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 24/05/2010 09:22:49
Originally by: Ranis Garr
I wish the Curse of BoB, Goons, and ASCN upon U'K. It will happen.... watch.
Comparing U'K to BoB, Goonswarm and ASCN is to massively over-estimate their power. U'K are in Providence for only as long as -A- permit them to stay there.
So was CVA, they were gone pretty quick as soon as -A- decided to pull the plug on them.
I think that everyone can agree that the Holder Alliances and CVA are neither ôgone pretty quickö nor whatever else you care to claim. We will never leave; we will never stop fighting for the God and the Empire.
Originally by: Ontaku Oroa
Originally by: Mel Lifera
Originally by: Ontaku Oroa We load our 1400mm guns and blow the enslavers out of the sky, that's what we do.
And us non-enslavers?
As I said, while Providence remains a warzone, neutral parties better pick their sides. In a war, people tend to open fire first, and ask questions later, if anyone survives.
Once the situation stabilizes, I am sure U'K will return to the NRDS ROE, as it was before we opened the insurgency campaign in Providence quite some time ago. Keep in mind that Providence is no longer a forcibly unified block and U'K ROE may not apply to other forces residing within the region. Our main goal is to keep slavery from spreading outside of the boundaries of Amarr empire, not to police space for the benefit of assorted traders or what have you.
UÆK has never been NRDS, and if any corporation or alliance that wishÆs to live in Providence, and believes the propaganda that UÆK is NRDS, I truly feel for them. Some good news though, is that Holders/CVA have not changed there ROE. We continue to be as always NRDS. We still police the pirates and the terrorists that infest Providence and lowsec Amarrian space. Even the threat of evil hoards from the south, will not keep us from continuing to serve God and the Empire. So rest assured, if you visit, or do business in Providence we will not shoot first if you are neutral to us. Amarr Victor!
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Iteken Hotori
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.25 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 25/05/2010 11:07:27
Originally by: Chereadenine Zakalwe Edited by: Chereadenine Zakalwe on 25/05/2010 10:54:24
Not bitter my friend. Just speaking from first hand experience.
Is this first hand experience of the previous, old providence, where a gormless blob of hundreds of pilots descend on a 15 strong roaming gang to "protect their interests" at the order of corrupt masters?
All I see is another bitter ex resident twisting anonymous words to attempt a minor, pointless piece of propaganda.
The facts and figures that work for instance lets see: PXF relocated by the hands of the combined forces of new providence - Check Sov Map that looks like an explosion in a paint factory - Check Roaming gangs in the area enjoying 0.0 pvp - Check Miners and ratters able to read intel channels usually staying mostly safe - Check. Most Providence Corps neutral / red to each other but set blue to fight common enemies - Check. No foolish bully alliances succeeding in land-grabs from weaker entities - Check
I'd say the Peoples Republic Of new Providence is pretty successful. it sounds like your "friends" are not cut out for 0.0 life and should go back to the illusionary safety empire where you don't need to pay attention to make money.
Quote: I think that everyone can agree that the Holder Alliances and CVA are neither ôgone pretty quickö
I don't know, Losing 27 station systems in 2 weeks is definitely one definition of "gone pretty quick" and I suspect the one my honourable comrade was referring too.
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Sarius Deteis
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.25 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Chereadenine Zakalwe Edited by: Chereadenine Zakalwe on 25/05/2010 10:54:24
Not bitter my friend. Just speaking from first hand experience. Now you have facts and figures you say..care to share them?
I myself would like to see Butter Dog's facts and figures. If none can be produced then I suggest that he stop sending communications to this channel, because it only hurts his own credibility, and that of those he represents.
Amarr Victory
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Kava
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Posted - 2010.05.25 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Kava on 25/05/2010 11:34:09
Originally by: Iteken Hotori
Is this first hand experience of the previous, old providence, where a gormless blob of hundreds of pilots descend on a 15 strong roaming gang to "protect their interests" at the order of corrupt masters?
I wonder who is bitter...
ProviBloc (blob) descended upon pirates in their own space, protecting neutrals and blues living there from harm (when they could). How is that wrong. Do you not protect your space?
And AAA has no right speaking of corrupt masters and false propaganda! Look to your own house pilot!
Originally by: Iteken Hotori
No foolish bully alliances succeeding in land-grabs from weaker entities - Check
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Rorin Cutter
Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.25 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Iteken Hotori Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 25/05/2010 11:08:08
Quote: I think that everyone can agree that the Holder Alliances and CVA are neither ôgone pretty quickö.
I don't know, Losing 27 station systems in 2 weeks is definitely one definition of "gone pretty quick" and I suspect the one my honourable comrade was referring too.
I donÆt know my worthy southern adversary, evacuating all assets from northern coalition space after only a few weeksÆ fits better to ôgone pretty quickö. CVA and the Holder alliance are still here our assets are still here, and we are still bringing the battle to all the terrorists, and the pirate organizations that support them. Whether from lowsec, hisec, or nullsec, we will not stop serving God, and the Empire, and we will never leave Providence. http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s72/rorincutter/Cutter-Drew.jpg |

Disease U
Skyforger Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.05.25 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Disease U on 25/05/2010 12:44:48
Originally by: Suitonia Sylph died when Drakmor handed over the reigns to the alliance.
Yep, true. Everything started to fall apart, after Drakmor left.
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Iteken Hotori
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.25 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 25/05/2010 14:26:35 Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 25/05/2010 14:25:22
Originally by: Kava
Originally by: Iteken Hotori
No foolish bully alliances succeeding in land-grabs from weaker entities - Check
Look to your own house indeed haha
Kava you should check your history. The words of liars and honourless change not the fact it was Providence that attacked Soverignty of their neighbours, and when they were soundly whipped for the insolence, refused to call off their own destruction. protecting ones borders is a basic human right, one we chose to exercise.
Now, to the matters of adults:
Rorin. I understand both your fire, and the amusement you must gain from the re-alignment of many local, and not so local power blocks, but revisionism is never pretty, especially with facts so close too hand. Being publicly lain low by a supposed leader of an alliance within days of the main assault beginning, and being all but absent whilst a few brave holders fought, and died to defend their part of your slaver empire, then to return months later only to ensure the annihilation of your remaining ally is a strange way of claiming to have "been here all along".
Congratulations are deservedly awarded however, for capitalising on the failures of local alliances to properly protect their Concord based Sovereignty claiming devices, allowing you to contest sovereignty in not one but two systems you controlled.
How you can claim though, to be fighting against terrorists and pirates however, considering the forces of 0utbreak and Genos aligned with you is beyond this simple pilot.
However if there is one thing the recent conflicts have taught me is words, especially at the beginning, mean nothing. Any bold, foolish soul can claim to be in it for the long haul, having done little.
Make no mistake, you have a hell of a fight ahead, and I hope I can kill you myself some day, however at the moment, the Honorless Northerners must feel my wrath.
http://i44.tinypic.com/oitz47.jpg See you in space. Again.
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Kava
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Posted - 2010.05.25 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Iteken Hotori Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 25/05/2010 14:26:35 Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 25/05/2010 14:25:22
Originally by: Kava
Originally by: Iteken Hotori
No foolish bully alliances succeeding in land-grabs from weaker entities - Check
Look to your own house indeed haha
Kava you should check your history. The words of liars and honourless change not the fact it was Providence that attacked Soverignty of their neighbours, and when they were soundly whipped for the insolence, refused to call off their own destruction. protecting ones borders is a basic human right, one we chose to exercise.
Now, to the matters of adults:
Nowhere did I dispute your reasons for kicking CVA in the teeth. You choose to answer with propaganda and excuses not asked.
In the previous communication you complained about Provibloc Blobbing pilots when providence was under their rule. :thehorror: And I found that funny considering what you did next, its called irony... you being the blobbing bully alliance:)if you need it spelled out
So when ProviBloc did it, it was a blob/unfair/corrupt but when you do it, its Justice and fair?
Got it o/
Also, demeaning me as a child only strengthens your super cool bully image... Besides, I love being a child! Its so much better then you serial grown up types 
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Hori To
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2010.05.25 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Rorin Cutter
UÆK has never been NRDS
Lie
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.25 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sarius Deteis
I myself would like to see Butter Dog's facts and figures. If none can be produced then I suggest that he stop sending communications to this channel, because it only hurts his own credibility, and that of those he represents.
Fact: The combined population of New Providence sov holding entites is greater than the CVA Providence Fact: More alliances now hold sov in Providence than did before Fact: No one alliance holds the 'lions share' of the region as CVA once did Fact: Over 50,000 sansha pirates have been killed in the last 24 hours
New Providence is working. The old regime is dead.
Long live this free region! ----------
~bitter dog~
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Merdaneth
Amarr Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2010.05.25 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Fact: The combined population of New Providence sov holding entites is greater than the CVA Providence
You mean actual population, or theoretical population? ____
The Illusion of Freedom | The Truth about Slavery |

Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.25 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog Fact: The combined population of New Providence sov holding entites is greater than the CVA Providence
I've not done the math (and I'm loath to take this at face value, to be honest) but the fact is meaningless: what made old Provi great (and prosperous) was the non-holding population.
Originally by: Butter Dog Fact: More alliances now hold sov in Providence than did before
The interpretation of this fact as supports your assertions is entirely subjective. Particularly in the light of on-going collapses of Provi sov-holders.
Originally by: Butter Dog Fact: No one alliance holds the 'lions share' of the region as CVA once did
Also an entirely subjective metric as supports your thesis.
Originally by: Butter Dog
Fact: Over 50,000 sansha pirates have been killed in the last 24 hours
A count not solely attributable to the "New Providence" holders, I assure you 
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Ontaku Oroa
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.25 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Ontaku Oroa on 25/05/2010 21:32:12 The prosperity of the region is less important than kicking the slaver s****out of it. Industrial and economic indexes serve only as indicators of suffering if they are based on slave labour. I would rather see a desolate, but free Providence, than a tighly packed but enslaved one.
That Providence still thrives is a fortunate bonus, however, ultimately irrelevant to the cause we fight for.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.25 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ontaku Oroa I would rather see a desolate, but free Providence, than a tighly packed but enslaved one.
So noted.
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ShadowandLight
Amarr 142nd GhostRiders
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Posted - 2010.05.25 22:21:00 -
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the "Noir" Sov systems have zero Noir living in them 95% of the time.
Its completed rented out.
New Providence is working my Amarrian Ass
Works for me though, tons of targets when I get time to jump into a ship
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Chereadenine Zakalwe
Caldari atrum ones
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Posted - 2010.05.26 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Fact: The combined population of New Providence sov holding entites is greater than the CVA Providence
The population of the holders may be greater, but as for the amount of pilots active in Providence....
Originally by: Butter Dog
The old regime is dead
Clearly sombody has been overdoing the Crysal Egg
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Telling somebody you love them is like firing first in a dual. Your screwed if you miss.. |

Iteken Hotori
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.26 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kava And I found that funny considering what you did next, its called irony... you being the blobbing bully alliance:)if you need it spelled out So when ProviBloc did it, it was a blob/unfair/corrupt but when you do it, its Justice and fair?
You are aware of course, that at the beginning of operation "Die Ammar scum" CVA and it's Pets, renters, holders and miscelanious allies outnumbered the AAA/U'K/Atlas block approximately 2:3, in real, on the field, fleet numbers. though knowing how Aralis, adn his zealots twist words, i'm sure it's an easy leap of 'faith' to redefine the defeat of Operation Deliverance as Bullying.
That those numbers dwindled to naught after a few defeats is not our concern. You were warned repeatedly not to get into this. You were offered multiple exits. That you chose to run, hide and cower in the shade of your precious veldspar was not our concern either.
Quote: Got it o/
One day, I hope you will understand. A previous CVA leader
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Kava
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Posted - 2010.05.26 10:44:00 -
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Edited by: Kava on 26/05/2010 10:51:46
Originally by: Iteken Hotori
Originally by: Kava And I found that funny considering what you did next, its called irony... you being the blobbing bully alliance:)if you need it spelled out So when ProviBloc did it, it was a blob/unfair/corrupt but when you do it, its Justice and fair?
You are aware of course, that at the beginning of operation "Die Ammar scum" CVA and it's Pets, renters, holders and miscelanious allies outnumbered the AAA/U'K/Atlas block approximately 2:3, in real, on the field, fleet numbers. though knowing how Aralis, adn his zealots twist words, i'm sure it's an easy leap of 'faith' to redefine the defeat of Operation Deliverance as Bullying.
That those numbers dwindled to naught after a few defeats is not our concern. You were warned repeatedly not to get into this. You were offered multiple exits. That you chose to run, hide and cower in the shade of your precious veldspar was not our concern either.
Quote: Got it o/
One day, I hope you will understand.
No no you misunderstand, again.
You whined about CVA blobbing/bullying when they ruled Providence, CVA said its fair. You blobbed/bullied CVA (they whine) and you say its fair. Irony comes a knockin.
But instead (again) you have to throw out propaganda you yourself accuse CVA of and yet again answer questions not asked... Irony beats down the door and knocks you on your head with a ironically clad twobyfour.
Got it?
Ps. yes I realise its irony all over if you go by further back and back, but then I can bring up old stuff to, then you bring up **** in the past and then Butter dog chimes in and before you know it Jade posts a wall of text and we all loose.
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DirtyDirty88
Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.26 11:37:00 -
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* Eats a cracker *
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Iteken Hotori
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.26 12:05:00 -
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Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 26/05/2010 12:07:37
Originally by: Kava ... drivel ...
You sound bitter. The exact words used to describe that you term the "proviBlob" are: a gormless blob of hundreds of pilots descend on a 15 strong roaming gang to "protect their interests" at the order of corrupt masters?
Is there any chance we can get the old Galnet posters back? I rather enjoyed intellectual discussions with members of Genos, -7-, even CVA.
Cowardly alts who think they are clever really are the bottom of the barrel. With posting like that I'd have suspected you'd be in CAOD.
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Kava
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Posted - 2010.05.26 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Iteken Hotori Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 26/05/2010 12:07:37
Originally by: Kava ... drivel ...
You sound bitter.
Cowardly alts who think they are clever really are the bottom of the barrel. With posting like that I'd have suspected you'd be in CAOD.
I'm not the one using memes...
You are very hostile mr Hotori but I will try to offer an opinion down here from the bottom of the barrel, don't bully me to much if I do:
I'm an alt (as my main body has lost her voice due to much crying and yelling at people...) but AAA is ****! Not quite as **** as CVA but at least the know they are ****. You are just going through the motions.
wow, now I came out hostile 
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Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard
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Posted - 2010.05.26 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: Codo Yagari on 26/05/2010 14:17:28
By disregarding civilization and neutral bystanders, by disregarding the laws of common sense and courtesy, the Ushra'Khan are acting selfish.
If you were truly strong, you would target the problem only. Not the problem + all in a 10km radius of it. After all, you do have a choise between the two strategies here presented.
Ask yourselves, what is freedom if you dont have your soul?
Embrace NRDS today!!
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DirtyDirty88
Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.26 19:37:00 -
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One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
There are bound to be biased opinions from both sides, i just can't see why even today, I still hear complaining about the actions of Khan versus Sylph.
Lets get the facts straight. 1. Sylph is dead. Completely. No denying it, and in my opinion, assigning blame does nothing to negate that fact. 2. Sylph were tools, in every sense of the word and I for one am glad to see them gone. No more of them to hide in station when the might of Matari strolled through on routine Patrols. 3. Ushra'Khan maintains NRDS as this is the only means of making sure the enemy does not send neutral pilots as spies to our systems. 4. We do not have to answer to anyone one who says we are dishonorable, as it was sylph who cast the first stone. |
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