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Myxx Gallente	Posted - 2010.05.08 07:27:00 - [1] Edited by: Myxx on 08/05/2010 07:29:46 Edited by: Myxx on 08/05/2010 07:27:58 Quote: 5:57 Joe R: There are a total of 220 readers right now. Even If I wanted to, I can't relay 220 questions, and get in my points, as well as host a varied interview. 5:57 Joe R: I apologise to everyone whose questions don't get answered this time around. 5:57 Joe R: So Noah: Will Ambulation be ready for the Winter slot do you think? 5:59 Joe R: Ambulation = Walking in Stations = Incarna 5:59 CCP_Hammerhead: Incarna in it's full form won't be ready by Winter. I have to be honest and manage expectations there. Although I can say we're working really hard on bring you something of value that is Incarna related in that release. http://www.strategyinformer.com/editorials/7904/strategy-informer-live-eve-online According to the 09 fanfest keynote, Torifrans, after PI would come Dust and Incarna (after 1hr 10 mins or so in) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNhPig8inEY Whats up with that? edit: linked. and, if it helps any, I got rid of that annyoing line in my sig.
Zartrader	Posted - 2010.05.08 07:32:00 - [2] Edited by: Zartrader on 08/05/2010 07:34:51 'After' does not mean 'next' Really, you guys are getting caught by marketingspeek all the time. After can mean in 10 years time. It's the same as '1 months subs for 10 EU' does not mean it costs only 10 EU. It's what they don't say or how they word it that's often more important. Never believe anything marketing or marketing driven comments in any company. They are professional spin masters.
Darth Skorpius 352 Industries	Posted - 2010.05.08 07:51:00 - [3] best part of that interview was near the end when hammar said jove is in march ____________________________________________
Lady Hellfury Caldari Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.05.08 08:32:00 - [4] Who cares about Incarna anyway, people that should be off spazzing about in wow or off larping.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.05.08 09:18:00 - [5] Originally by: Lady Hellfury Who cares about Incarna anyway, people that should be off spazzing about in wow or off larping. People that want a System Shock sub-MMO in their internet spaceships game.
Teibor	Posted - 2010.05.08 11:36:00 - [6] Id rather have the existing game stable before even Tyrannis was released, nevermind anything past May 18th. But hey-ho, CCP want $$ rather than stability it seems.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2010.05.08 11:37:00 - [7] You're all welcome to Chribba's Veldspar Bar in Amarr! Secure 3rd party service \| my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'

defiler Mad Hermit Wayward Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.08 11:43:00 - [8] Originally by: Chribba You're all welcome to Chribba's Veldspar Bar in Amarr! Serving every drink on the rocks? All right, all right, I'll shut up (and go sit in the corner with a shot of Veldka.) Minding our own business since 2004
Neutrino Sunset Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse	Posted - 2010.05.08 17:29:00 - [9] I (and I think in all honesty most other Internet spaceship game fans) am not remotely arsed about Incarna itself. The problem is that we are going to get anything good until Incarna is done, and the longer it takes the longer we wait.
S'qarpium D'igil	Posted - 2010.05.08 17:50:00 - [10] Edited by: S''qarpium D''igil on 08/05/2010 17:51:50 I think you'd be surprised by the number of people who ARE interested in Incarna, even if you aren't. I'm looking forward to it in spite of the nagging feeling I have that CCP will only have it half-finished when it is finally released, and even then it won't be remotely close to having the features that would make it great. If CCP promised player-owned shops, bars, etc the same way they promised we could "rule with tyranny or benevolence," then Incarna will be underwhelming to say the least.

Ghoest	Posted - 2010.05.08 17:52:00 - [11] Originally by: Myxx Whats up with that? Ummm maybe they are pushing it back because no one cares? Wherever you went - Here you are.
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.05.08 18:35:00 - [12] Originally by: Chribba You're all welcome to Chribba's Veldspar Bar in Amarr! I'd want to open this one, in Domain or Jel =) ________________________ Apply \| Channel CBSN Lounge
El'Niaga Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.05.08 18:53:00 - [13] Its vaporware. I mean they've been working on it for 5 years? The average new MMORPGs don't spend that long in development. The fact is they devoted enough time to make a demo and then basically stopped work on it. They reallocated staff to work on various other projects within the corporation (both for EVE and for other projects). Some might say, Oh they want to get it right, so they spending extra time on it. Do you really believe that? QA hasn't been a strong point for a long time. When they do decide to finally put resources to it, they'll basically jam the coding etc in in about 6-8 months and then ship it out complete with bugs. Then they'll have everyone wait while they fix them. (So how's that Dominion Lag everyone has?)
Ban Doga	Posted - 2010.05.08 18:59:00 - [14] I think we're well beyond the point where the delay will be justified by the outcome. Seriously there's not enough awesomeness in the whole world to wait another year for it...
Morikai Acler Caldari The Whitesands Consortium Honourable Templum of Alcedonia	Posted - 2010.05.08 21:26:00 - [15] You also gotta think about another thing. The code they use for ambulation will very likely be the same code as what is used to the fps part of dust 514, and will most likely be the same system used for the WhiteWolf world of darkness game they're working on.
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2010.05.08 21:50:00 - [16] Originally by: El'Niaga Its vaporware. I mean they've been working on it for 5 years? The average new MMORPGs don't spend that long in development. The fact is they devoted enough time to make a demo and then basically stopped work on it. They reallocated staff to work on various other projects within the corporation (both for EVE and for other projects). Some might say, Oh they want to get it right, so they spending extra time on it. Do you really believe that? QA hasn't been a strong point for a long time. When they do decide to finally put resources to it, they'll basically jam the coding etc in in about 6-8 months and then ship it out complete with bugs. Then they'll have everyone wait while they fix them. (So how's that Dominion Lag everyone has?) This. And I'm really getting flashbacks to the whole "Duke Nuke 'Em Forever" debacle here. :) -- "Gorgeous, delicious, deculture!"
Epegi Givo Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.05.08 22:07:00 - [17] One of my favorite things about SWG was walking into a cantina and a ton of people being there, and then me joining in on the conversations taking place. Incarna will finally bring that to EVE. The only reason I don't play SWG anymore is that noone is ever around anymore. __________________________ My other alt is A Ferrari
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.05.08 22:55:00 - [18] Originally by: Morikai Acler You also gotta think about another thing. The code they use for ambulation will very likely be the same code as what is used to the fps part of dust 514, and will most likely be the same system used for the WhiteWolf world of darkness game they're working on. No, they already announced that Dust514 is using the Unreal 3 engine.
Dread Phantom Caldari End Game.	Posted - 2010.05.09 02:47:00 - [19] remember store fronts, nope me neither
Cyprus Black Caldari League of Extraordinary Moustaches	Posted - 2010.05.09 03:07:00 - [20] I'm going to laugh if it turns out that Incarna aka Ambulation aka Walking in Stations is the patch that opens the floodgates for new customers. CCP will say to themselves "damn, we should've put this patch out a long time ago", but alas hindsight is always 20/20. ___________________________________ "In the land of predators, the lion does not fear the jackal." -Dexter

Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.05.09 05:36:00 - [21] Originally by: Cyprus Black I'm going to laugh if it turns out that Incarna aka Ambulation aka Walking in Stations is the patch that opens the floodgates for new customers. CCP will say to themselves "damn, we should've put this patch out a long time ago", but alas hindsight is always 20/20. I think it will. It will open an entire new social aspect to the game that some players seek out. Me personally...I couldn't care any less. I'm not a social player. Besides, CCP wont allow a "nudist" corp or allow my avatar to walk around 8 months pregnant. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
Baillif Red Mist Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.09 06:01:00 - [22] I always wondered if anyone has podded a pregnant capsuleer. Two for one amiright?
Pr1ncess Alia Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2010.05.09 06:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Dread Phantom remember store fronts, nope me neither at first i but then i "A game that is significantly nonlinear is sometimes described as being open-ended or a sandbox, and is characterized by there being no "right way" of playing the game."
Jerid Verges Gallente The Society of Innovation The Last Stand	Posted - 2010.05.09 06:06:00 - [24] So I heard you guys are still waiting for ~~Duke Nukem Forever~~ Walking-In-Stations.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2010.05.09 06:30:00 - [25] Edited by: Wendat Huron on 09/05/2010 06:30:34 Originally by: Teibor Id rather have the existing game stable before even Tyrannis was released, nevermind anything past May 18th. But hey-ho, CCP want $$ rather than stability it seems. It... is... not... the... same... people! If you get a burger while mechanics balance tires on your car are you also on the burger people to speed up the balancing of the tires before flipping that burger? Delenda est achura.
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.05.09 07:12:00 - [26] Originally by: Wendat Huron Edited by: Wendat Huron on 09/05/2010 06:30:34 Originally by: Teibor Id rather have the existing game stable before even Tyrannis was released, nevermind anything past May 18th. But hey-ho, CCP want $$ rather than stability it seems. It... is... not... the... same... people! If you get a burger while mechanics balance tires on your car are you also on the burger people to speed up the balancing of the tires before flipping that burger? Dont get me started on burgers. I once got a drive-thru burger...when I got home, the burger had everything in it BUT the beef patty. In know in one way or another it's CCP's fault. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.05.09 08:33:00 - [27] Originally by: Cyprus Black I'm going to laugh if it turns out that Incarna aka Ambulation aka Walking in Stations is the patch that opens the floodgates for new customers. CCP will say to themselves "damn, we should've put this patch out a long time ago", but alas hindsight is always 20/20. There is an excellent chance that this will be the case. I lurk on various foums, and there is considerable interest in Incarna. Although we are all quite happy to play EVE without avatars - by definition all current EVE subscribers are - there are a LOT of people out there who do want to see an avatar before they hand over their time and money. It doesn't even matter that much to them that there initially might not be all that much to do while outside a pod. They just want to be able to see their guy in order to identify with him. They want to "play a person, not a spaceship". I see that phrase repeated over and over. And you know what, if it takes Incarna to get 50,000 or 100,000 new subscribers, then it's effort well spent IMO. All this is apart from the additional gameplay possibilities that Ambulation will open up, which is the side of it that should interest the current playerbase.
Capt Fossil Gallente	Posted - 2010.05.09 10:47:00 - [28] Well since eve's servers and DB are freaking out at current sub levels, not to mention those poor folks in big fleet fights, be careful what you wish for. I too welcome these tens of thousands of new people who supposedly don't wanna fly and fight internet spaceships now... Because they can't frakkin have an avatar and play dress up!
Asuri Kinnes Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2010.05.09 17:53:00 - [29] Originally by: Jerid Verges So I heard you guys are still waiting for ~~Duke Nukem Forever~~ Walking-In-Stations. QFT. Also, Sim-City, 2nd Life and COD have been done.... just sayin'. Eve is having problems with the current level of subscriptions/lag/DB issues... How is 50K or 100K more people going to help that? Also - it may be "different people" working on the vaporware known as "WIS", Incarna or whatever, but its still coming out of CCP's single pot of money... Pod goo > WIS. Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.05.09 18:34:00 - [30] Originally by: Capt Fossil Well since eve's servers and DB are freaking out at current sub levels, not to mention those poor folks in big fleet fights, be careful what you wish for. I too welcome these tens of thousands of new people who supposedly don't wanna fly and fight internet spaceships now... Because they can't frakkin have an avatar and play dress up! Incarna will be on different servers. This means everyone docked will not be using the main server cluster resources. Carry on. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.



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