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Aerilis Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2010.05.09 18:39:00 - [31] My girlfriend promised she'd try Eve once Incarna comes out. So yes, I'm interested in it.
Dimitrios Ypsilanti	Posted - 2010.05.09 19:13:00 - [32] Originally by: Aerilis My girlfriend promised she'd try Eve once Incarna comes out. This. If Eve wants to attract different players then it needs to augment its current play stile with something that's much less abstract. The game can't seriously realize its full potential without crossing this threshold. I'm actually looking forward to Incarna (and Dust). I'm getting tired of all the "dots." Originally by: Ranka Mei And I'm really getting flashbacks to the whole "Duke Nuke 'Em Forever" debacle here. Not even close. Incarna has at least 10 years to go before it can rival the epic fail that is DN4. Still, it would be nice to see some progress. It's been a while since they showed off the demo reel and it's been a lot of nothing since then.
Ryhss Caldari The Templar Navy SRS.	Posted - 2010.05.09 22:19:00 - [33] I hope incarna gets put on a shelf and never gets implemented.
CEO Swifty	Posted - 2010.05.09 22:48:00 - [34] Originally by: Dimitrios Ypsilanti Originally by: Aerilis My girlfriend promised she'd try Eve once Incarna comes out. This. If Eve wants to attract different players then it needs to augment its current play stile with something that's much less abstract. The game can't seriously realize its full potential without crossing this threshold. I'm actually looking forward to Incarna (and Dust). I'm getting tired of all the "dots." Originally by: Ranka Mei And I'm really getting flashbacks to the whole "Duke Nuke 'Em Forever" debacle here. Not even close. Incarna has at least 10 years to go before it can rival the epic fail that is DN4. Still, it would be nice to see some progress. It's been a while since they showed off the demo reel and it's been a lot of nothing since then. I cant seem to find the news article. But their was one where CCP Announced that fanfest has been moved to march or something. And it will be mostly about Incarna apparently. Sorry i cant seem to locate said article
Malios45 People with Guns Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.05.09 22:57:00 - [35] Originally by: CEO Swifty I cant seem to find the news article. But their was one where CCP Announced that fanfest has been moved to march or something. And it will be mostly about Incarna apparently. Sorry i cant seem to locate said article You might be a little confused. They did have a news article where they mentioned they would be moving fan fest to march, giving them more time to work on the winter expansion and incarna instead of prepping for a fall fanfest...
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.05.09 23:02:00 - [36] Incarna is going to be released alongside Duke Nukem Forever. In other words: Soon(tm) ________________________ Apply \| Achievements
Tobias Xiaosen Total Xenophobia Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.09 23:04:00 - [37] Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 09/05/2010 23:04:44 Personally, I think Incarna would definitely help expand Eve. It provides a new perspective to the game, and gives players more stuff to do. Whats wrong with that? Not to mention Eve has been around for a long time now. Unless there are massive introductions of new content and gameplay, I fear that Eve will just fade away. One of the biggest complaints I've heard for Eve from those I talk to about it that don't play is the mere fact you don't have your own character. It makes sense too when you think about it. Your character is your persona, what makes you unique in a sea of people. In Eve all you get is a little picture that means next to nothing. There is nothing unique about flying a drake or a dominix, and a "unique" fitting more often than not is a very bad idea. Basically people want more control over their character. Eve is, technically, a RPG. You can't fault them for thinking that way. But, as it stands, I`m not entirely sure Eve could handle it. The expansion would bring in a massive amount of new players, and the stress on the servers requires new hardware. Not to mention fixing up whatever the lag monster brought by Dominion is. AND TO THOSE SAYING INCARNA IS ON SEPARATE SERVERS: Do you honestly think all those new players are going to do NOTHING but sit in stations? Give me a break. Incarna may be the reason they sign up, but to assume that will be the only thing they do in Eve is just stupid. In the end, I kinda just wish CCP would get it over and done with. Of course, make sure everything will work first, but getting it finished will end all the speculation around it and few up the people working on it to focus more on other stuff in the game. ~ CURRENT INTERNETS = + 539735
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.05.09 23:26:00 - [38] Hypothetically, if CCP had more subs they could use the money to buy more hardware. But the current lag problems are netcode related, not hardware related.
Emperor Cheney Celebrity Sex Tape	Posted - 2010.05.09 23:52:00 - [39] CCP is surprisingly reluctant to make a lot of money. Is there any doubt incarna would attract a lot of new subs? And the constant excuse of "we're trying to make it perfect" is just laughable. I mean, come on, we all play this game. We all know CCP is extremely willing and capable of releasing (and then not supported) half-assed product.
Atticus Fynch	Posted - 2010.05.09 23:57:00 - [40] Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 10/05/2010 00:13:34 Originally by: Aerilis My girlfriend promised I'd get some once Incarna comes out. So yes, I'm interested in it. Originally by: Emperor Cheney CCP is surprisingly reluctant to make a lot of money. Is there any doubt incarna would attract a lot of new subs? And the constant excuse of "we're trying to make it perfect" is just laughable. I mean, come on, we all play this game. We all know CCP is extremely willing and capable of releasing (and then not supported) half-assed product. That's a good point but look at it this way; I was mining then decided to warp off. My mining lasers didnt turn off as I warped away...they just stayed there, stationary as my ship took off. Looked pretty damn funny but it's a forgivable bug. Now consider the same in Incarna. A meeting just went sour and you threaten a wardec as you get up and storm off. Problem is...your clothes are still stationary as you walk away. You walk away naked as those on the the table ROFLMAO. Hardly the effect you were looking for. So yeah..I'd like Incarna to be perfect.
Mephiston Lucius	Posted - 2010.05.10 00:38:00 - [41] @Atticus : "So yeah..I'd like Incarna to be perfect." yeahhhh righttt p: "Perfect Incarna" close to a "Miracle" p: and since its only "WALKING in stations".. i dont need a perfect thing.. not like we able to shoot each other anyway.. orrr maybe CCP come to realize they "never" support their old content/expansions.. so they wanna "finish" /i mean not like usual "unfinished expansions"/ it so they can "forget it" with peace in mind.. p:
Captain Mastiff	Posted - 2010.05.10 01:33:00 - [42] i cant believe no one asked about fixing roflkets.
Makar Kravchenko	Posted - 2010.05.10 05:57:00 - [43] About DUST514/Unreal 3 engine. You know the Unreal 3 engine is modular, right? Meaning they can make it part of the EVE Online Experience as a whole, for the implementation of Incarna. I would have to say that if Incarna is to be implemented into EVE, that it could very well use the Unreal 3 engine in tandem with the Trinity Engine. When you choose to spawn "Incarna" the scenerio might go like this: 1. Dock in station 2. Launch Incarna 3. Sequence initiates to pull the trinity renderer offline, unloading trinity resources. 4. Sequence initiates to load Unreal 3 renderer and resources. 5. Incarna Loads... 6. Profit (at gambling tables in Chribba the Hut's Tritanium Palace).
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.05.10 06:36:00 - [44] Originally by: El'Niaga Its vaporware. I mean they've been working on it for 5 years? The average new MMORPGs don't spend that long in development. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. It was introduced during fanfest 2006.Which by the way I attended. When it comes to developement time the standards are 3-5 years depending on the seriousness of the company. And Incarna can be compared to a new game because everything in it from graphics, sounds and game engine will be new. There will also be new items and possibly things to do too. So all in all I dont think 3-4 year aint too bad. And CCP have never been the company that takes lightly on new things knowing its importance. But yes, I am getting impatient too. Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
Trathen Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.10 07:09:00 - [45] Originally by: Makar Kravchenko Incarna could turn out to be a way for corperations or players to avoid space combat by just logging into Incarna and ignoring regular EVE. This, could be bad for the EVE market. Easy way to spend time in EVE with friends, and not worry about getting blown up, which means less ships getting blown up, which means minerals devalue because of less ships getting blown up, which means cascade failure of the player driven market of EVE. Yes, or that could mean a million other things such as, I don't know, anything other than EVE, which people already find themselves distracted, believe it or not. Anything that isn't EVE is "a way for people to avoid space combat." I don't think Incarna will be that relevant to the existing equilibrium.
Phony v2 Caldari The Praxis Initiative Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.05.10 07:17:00 - [46] Edited by: Phony v2 on 10/05/2010 07:17:32 I for one am very interested in Incarna, I've been waiting for WIS for years. And also players will finally understand how ****ing big these ships are. Im so sick of people thinking the merlin frigate is meant for one person... ______________________________________________ Yes? You, the idiot in the back, with the dumb question.
Guttripper Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2010.05.10 07:30:00 - [47] Unless there has been some major advancement, I was under the impression that once a pilot docks and "enters" the walking in station aspect, we will _not_ be able to see our ships. That is, we would not be able to walk into a hangar and see this ship the size of a 747 airplane equivalent to the Caldari Merlin. The whole sequence is to be similar to how we undock from stations today - we do not see the hangar door or the drones pulling or pushing our ship out into space. Ship in hangar ---> "Undock" command ---> Space Ship in hangar ---> "Enter Station" command ---> Station interiors with ---> equal to the infamous black screen with the small notice of loading floating across.
TheBlueMonkey Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.10 07:40:00 - [48] My entire eve experience hindges on the release of **ing in stations... actually, it doesn't, I'd rather be out blowing ** up rather than walking about a station in empire. "OH BUT LOOK I'M DANCING!!!!" Snoo to the zoooze -- Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.05.10 07:41:00 - [49] Originally by: Emperor Cheney And the constant excuse of "we're trying to make it perfect" is just laughable. I mean, come on, we all play this game. We all know CCP is extremely willing and capable of releasing (and then not supported) half-assed product. Did it not occur to you that their history with EVE may be the reason they are being so careful with Incarna? - DesuSigs - Now with ThreadAssignÖ and SigSelectÖ
Grantara	Posted - 2010.05.10 10:27:00 - [50] Originally by: Makar Kravchenko Who knows when we will see Incarna, I'd like to see it, just cause I like new toys. But I wouldn't hold your breath people. DUST514 has to be a success or failure before you will ever see Incarna. Naa, like EVE and Incarna, DUST and Incarna are two entirely different things. EVE will still be space pewpew, Incarna will be just running around in a station and DUST will be ego-planet-side pewpew. These draw completely different crowds of people (besides a few who want the full package). Serving a lot of different interests and getting more subscribtions is not a bad thing. Why are some people so scared of Incarna and hope that it will never come out? Incarna will not affect EVEs gameplay, so they can sit happily in their ships and ignore it. Personally, I wait for the full package and I will enjoy it. :)
Graysson	Posted - 2010.05.10 11:14:00 - [51] Incarna will happen when, and IF, CCP has time for it. It's an add-on to an existing product, currently CCP's primary product (as far as I know), so don't be so surprised if you don't see it for awhile while other products are floated to the market, ie: "DUST", in an attempt to expand the revenue base for CCP. Hopefully, bigger revenue translates to a bigger development budget. Take a look at the CCP jobs listings...lots of expansion. If nothing else, remember that EvE expansions are free. Any new game product that comes along, in this case "DUST", is going to cost you. Gee... suddenly waiting for a freebie like Incarna doesn't seem like such a pain in the ass, does it?
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.05.10 11:23:00 - [52] Still looking forwards to opening up the blue oyster bar in jita 4-4
Dr Sodius	Posted - 2010.05.10 11:32:00 - [53] Originally by: baltec1 Still looking forwards to opening up the blue oyster bar in jita 4-4 would be better placed in gallente space
Lady Kascoff	Posted - 2010.05.10 11:52:00 - [54] I am new to EVE, but, one of the things that really attracted my attention about Eve was the fact that it would be expanding into this area with Incarna. And I can assure you that there are others, that dont play the game, but may do when Incarna is released. It opens up a great deal of options for careers and things to do in Eve, giving a larger spectrum of people something to do other than flying around in space. While Incarna will introduce WIS, it will still be a space game, but, it will add a layer taking it closer to being a full Science Fiction Sim. WiS could lead to the exploration of unexplored worlds and alien ruins that provide higher tech items. It will lead to people making bars and shops. I cant wait to see a dark, dingy market lining the halls of a rusty Minmatar station searching for modules and parts to tinker with. In all, Incarna will be a great addition.
Valea Silpha Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.05.10 14:46:00 - [55] Originally by: defiler Originally by: Chribba You're all welcome to Chribba's Veldspar Bar in Amarr! Serving every drink on the rocks? All right, all right, I'll shut up (and go sit in the corner with a shot of Veldka.) I approve of this humour :D You should totally MC the veldbar.
SemiCharmed Clans of the Sanctums	Posted - 2010.05.10 15:03:00 - [56] YAY, but another rant, I'm not really bothered about ambulation, they can scrap it entirely for all i care and i am dam sure i'm not the only one thinking this :) -------------------------------------------- Remember Kids, Only YOU Can Prevent Fourm fires.
jos wijnants Caldari	Posted - 2010.05.10 15:47:00 - [57] i am one of those people ,who would like to see some walking around and like the rest of us getting a little impatient. this is thread number 1.000 without any reply from the devs about it so plz lock this one it has no use at all. with all respect to the poster ofcourse.
B1FF	Posted - 2010.05.10 17:01:00 - [58] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Lady Hellfury Who cares about Incarna anyway, people that should be off spazzing about in wow or off larping. People that want a System Shock sub-MMO in their internet spaceships game. But they've already said it won't be that.
B1FF	Posted - 2010.05.10 17:47:00 - [59] Originally by: Epegi Givo One of my favorite things about SWG was walking into a cantina and a ton of people being there, and then me joining in on the conversations taking place. Incarna will finally bring that to EVE. The only reason I don't play SWG anymore is that noone is ever around anymore. No it won't. SWG had less than 40 or so cantinas. Ambulation will have 10,000+. If you take everyone playing and spread them equally across all stations you'd have 2-3 people per bar. SWG had quick transport. You could go from any cantina to any cantina in 5 minuntes. You're looking at things with rose colored glasses.
B1FF	Posted - 2010.05.10 17:52:00 - [60] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Cyprus Black I'm going to laugh if it turns out that Incarna aka Ambulation aka Walking in Stations is the patch that opens the floodgates for new customers. CCP will say to themselves "damn, we should've put this patch out a long time ago", but alas hindsight is always 20/20. There is an excellent chance that this will be the case. I lurk on various foums, and there is considerable interest in Incarna. Although we are all quite happy to play EVE without avatars - by definition all current EVE subscribers are - there are a LOT of people out there who do want to see an avatar before they hand over their time and money. It doesn't even matter that much to them that there initially might not be all that much to do while outside a pod. They just want to be able to see their guy in order to identify with him. They want to "play a person, not a spaceship". I see that phrase repeated over and over. And you know what, if it takes Incarna to get 50,000 or 100,000 new subscribers, then it's effort well spent IMO. All this is apart from the additional gameplay possibilities that Ambulation will open up, which is the side of it that should interest the current playerbase. But they'll still be playing a space ship after Ambulation. Pictures sell games. Mechanics get people to pay a monthly fee. If the game mechanics don't sell them now then then won't sell them when it's the same game mechanics with a human picture on the screen.

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