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Wedgetail
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Posted - 2011.09.22 09:34:00 -
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Ikarus Gaul wrote:Arkady Sadik wrote:Ikarus Gaul wrote:Turn towards salvation and purpose You got confused on who you are loyal to there I think. Not in the least. You ascribe exclusive rights of the meaning of these words to another, I think. That is misplaced. True salvation lies with Nation. Millions have been saved through the initiative of Nation.
heheh I never figured you for being so unable to save yourself from your own problems that you would feel the need to run to nation are you now so incapable of standing on your own two feet that you need to surrender responsibility to someone else? |
Wedgetail
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Posted - 2011.09.22 10:44:00 -
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Ikarus Gaul wrote:Wedgetail wrote:
heheh I never figured you for being so unable to save yourself from your own problems that you would feel the need to run to nation are you now so incapable of standing on your own two feet that you need to surrender responsibility to someone else?
What problems might those be? Far from surrendering responsibility, I am facing up to it. I believe that Nation is the only order that will survive that which doomed the Takmahl, the Yan Jung, and Talocan, and other elder races to extinction. Through Nation, humanity will understand all that is currently obscured. Through Nation, all that threatens us will be overcome. I take a principled stand in favour of this vision. I am disappointed, though not surprised, that you do not share it.
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA you really don't have the vision to understand do you gaul? I'll give you a hint: are you not of human origin? a part of the species? or do you see yourself as being something beyond what you are?
regardless of what 'faction' we are under we are all the same we all have the same deficiencies and Kuvakei is no exception - admittedly the man was among the stronger of minds our species has encountered but the fool is lost to his own fear and impatience - said fool and those who follow cannot stomach the thought of human evolution sorting itself out he fears what is to come and he fears the result he cannot predict. the truly wise among us do not. for there is no need.
his fear of humanity's fate is so overwhelming that he strives to ESCAPE being what he his to do what the jove did before him and become something that is not human any longer - the jove doomed themselves with their foolishness and so will he.
the jove however chose their fate and did not force it upon any other - Kuvakei will take as many down with him as he can before he realises his folly.
Your legs are incapable of bearing the weight of your own self on humanity's course let alone capable of supporting those around you - so you need to suckle off kuvakei's teat in order to stay your place in the breeze? worthless is he who lacks the spine to walk the path with those placed at his side. lost are those who cannot hold strong to those around them regardless of what doom they may face.
If anything it is Kuvakei that needs to open his blinded eyes and stand beside the rest of his species! we will show him his fear is of naught but ghosts. |
Wedgetail
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Posted - 2011.09.22 11:09:00 -
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N'maro Makari wrote:
Dont encourage him, he'll actually take this as a sign that his hissy fit is worth a damn.
Maybe - but perhaps not for the reasons he thinks it is, He'll work it out one way or the other. |
Wedgetail
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Posted - 2011.09.23 10:51:00 -
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Ikarus Gaul wrote:Cmdr Baxter wrote:... The fact that Kuvakei brings chaos with him (and openly champions it), and CONCORD guards and maintains an elaborate system of chaos, appears not to have factored into your logic. The chaos to which you refer is merely transitional. When all is done, this will be a more orderly and sane universe.
Further proving my point that you are too afraid to face what is - that you run from it with what little strength you do have.
I pity you - for confusing order with stagnation. |
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Posted - 2011.09.23 11:13:00 -
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Ikarus Gaul wrote:Wedgetail wrote:Further proving my point that you are too afraid to face what is - that you run from it with what little strength you do have.
I pity you - for confusing order with stagnation. You confuse chaos with innovation... mere quantity and higher frequency of "newness" is not a valid criterion for judging efficacy. Stochastic human systems are not inherently better at development and progress than highly-ordered ones. I have yet to hear a valid argument that an orderly system is equivalent to a static system.
do you know why innovation occurs? do you know what causes it? i Imagine you do or at least you should if you've paid even a moment's thought into the idea <-- oh whoops gave it away, my bad. :)
What Kuvakei creates is not order - it is stagnation. he does not foster new ideas he silences them. where to pool ripples he stills it. I would sooner face destruction from whatever unseen force you are all so readily wetting yourselves in fear of then see our species reduced to such a worthless state.
You however are already too blinded, your mind too limited to see anything beyond the most simple of crayon pictures. so i doubt you will be able to comprehend the meaning in this post any better than you could my more detailed ones.
I will leave you to ruin yourself however you see fit if that is your choice - I doubt Kuvakei will even need to waste the time hacking out your brain to limit your capacity to think as he does with the others, you're already incapable :) |
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Posted - 2011.09.27 04:51:00 -
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Ikarus Gaul wrote:Manwe Todako wrote:Let's get back to the original absurdity of anyone willingly choosing to serve Sansha Nation and their oxymoronic promises.
Etymology of "utopia" = "nowhere"
Nation leads to nowhere except slavery.
Recant your recantation and return to sanity, rationality, and responsible spirituality. Etymology is the history of words. The history of individual words is rooted in the historical world views prevalent at the time that a word is coined. Because our ancestors could not conceive of the validity of a sane, rational end-state does not mean that it could not exist. I reject this sort of defeatism. I think that your expectation that disconnected individualists, propped-up by spirituality, is what is irrational and insane, pilot.
You consistently miss the point...still Gaul...after all this time... and Manwe, you missed the 'e' mate :) the word means 'good place' of which the universe has many - none of which were constructed by madmen...unless of course the creator of the universe is mad, but that's another topic of discussion altogether.
Kuvakei though leads to eutopia meaning 'no place' - somewhere that does not exist.
It does not exist because we burned his little falsehood to the ground the first time.
Even if Kuvakei should manage to find a new white shiny throne to call his paradise - there will be none among you fit to inhabit it - something your deliberately limited minds are no longer capable of seeing.  |
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