They're owned by (reasonably) upstanding citizens and they're doing CONCORD's workGǪ so of course they should be.

Gameplay changes need a reason.

This has no reason beyond half baked quasi-RP idea.

Removing the ability of people to fly pirate ships in highsec makes nobody at all happy.


Highsec people don't get to fly their uber pimpships.

Nullsec people don't get to sell said uber pimp ships to the people who buy most of said ships, driving down the price of their ship BPC loot drops.

And lowsec? **** em, nobody cares about them and it wouldn't change things much for them anyway.

Well lots of missions have secret star gates or private corperation gates. Like the Blockade maybe they get in that way. Perhaps they setup secret jump bridges.

I think Concord ignores capsuleer Pirate Boats because a lot of them are stolen designs from pirate complexes and they can't track where they come from. A lot of them are used to hunt High Sec NPC Pirates with efficiency as well.

That and shady arms deals are pretty much legal unless it isn't small arms for some reason. Wanna buy 20 Rifles illegal and a huge fine. Wanna buy a stack of 300 Nova Nuclear Warhead... Go right ahead, no waiting period or background check required.

Concord lets - 5s fly around (those who actually break the laws). I doubt they would care about people in "pirate" ships who are upstanding pilots.

Their sale should be prohibited in hisec, but obviously flying them would need to be OK, its not as though teh ship maketh the man..

Secret star gates or not, I'm talking about capsuleers flying pirate ships, not the actual pirates themselves.

- According to the pirate rat floating around in highsec space thing, they do not appear at gates. So maybe they jump through into some highsec system and evades CONCORD. CONCORD probably suck at probing anyway so the rats are free forever in their complexes and asteroid belts. This is also supported by the fact that pirates rats do appear at gates in lowsec and nullsec (but not highsec - so the difference means something).

Does that mean capsuleers are vigilantes? I realize CONCORD is not *exactly* space police so maybe we are the police itself? If so, then I guess we can use anything we want as long as we get the job done.

Don't tell me what you are or are not talking about...


When you are talking about them getting into High Security right here. If you don't want to talk about it then don't talk about it.

Honestly, only Sansha and some Blood Raider ships are piratey. The rest are just paint job variants.

I'm pretty sure you get shot at by CONCORD if you fly around with a low enough security status in a high enough security status system.

You get shot at by faction police, not CONCORD, unless you're in a CONCORD sov system.

Absolutely. The term outlaw means "outside the law" not "enemy of the state". To clarify, being an outlaw means someone could shoot you in front of the cops and they wouldn't say boo. Getting locked out of highsec has long been a deterrent to pvping in lowsec and has driven more aspiring pvpers into the abomination that is FW than should be allowed. Shooting outlaws should be the job of the players, not the faction navies acting as watered down CONCORD.

Thanks to alts and neutral friends, the -10 security rating is pretty much as broken as the bounty system atm. And who knows, MAYBE seeing -10s zooming around highsec besides the occasional fast frig/pod would actually curb the rampant Carebearitis infecting highsec atm.

They're owned by (reasonably) upstanding citizens and they're doing CONCORD's workGǪ so of course they should be.

In this way, why are pirate ships allowed in high security space!? Wouldn't a CONCORD pilot's blood pressure increase as he sees that a pirate ship uncloaked next to a high security jumpgate (or is it warpgate...)?

I realized that CONCORD probably doesn't like rats, right? And all of those "rats" are pirates. In pirate ships.

In this way, why are pirate ships allowed in high security space!? Wouldn't a CONCORD pilot's blood pressure increase as he sees that a pirate ship uncloaked next to a high security jumpgate (or is it warpgate...)? I would think so. Allow me to clarify: I am addressing CAPSULEER USAGE of PIRATE STUFF including SHIPS, MODULES, and AMMO.

Non newbie PvE should be completely outside of space patrolled by unbeatable CONCORD.

They should also scale down the universe to 1/8 the size and layoff 75% of the Dev team to support EVE's new player base.

A prediction you cannot prove. I would argue that an increasingly stagnant EVE that doesn't fully embrace it's claims to being a Sandbox MMO built around player conflict is slowly killing EVE off regardless.

The more CCP creates safe zones, opt outs, insulation from other players, and themepark type gameplay, the less anything that happens in EVE really matters. If players have no real stakes or investment in what happens in EVE around them, they will eventually lose interest. There's no long term future for this game as some sort of Space WoW.