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Thercon Jair
Minmatar Nex Exercitus IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.13 11:44:00 -
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It does start to **** me off a little. I just lost my third ship in H-W inside 1d, all to losing connection (and getting killed by the squad that does nothing but kill people who lose connection).
Now, CCP, this isn't WoW where there is no real economy, as nothing ever really dies. You just find your body, go to that smith, pay a couple coppers, and you're good to go again!
This is EVE, we spend hours to make the isk for a battleship. Then we (or some logistics people) spend hours to get the ship to where it needs to be. And then you get immediately killed by your abysmal server performance. If you create a game with a true economy, at least make it so that you don't lose your assets because of game issues. Losing a POS, for example, comes to mind, because the attack mail doesn't get sent. Or sent too late so that you can't stront the tower even though you only covered 2 systems in 2min to get to the tower.
But looking through your annual reports and seeing that investor interest steadily rises, combined with the knowledge that investors always want to see more return on their investment, and are not afraid to put up pressure to get what they want, because, what are you going to do to stop them from taking their money and investing into something that promises them more return? So, basically, what I'm saying, you've become another victim of your own success, thanks to how our economy is working, and thanks to the fact that humans are humans, with the same instincts that we had 100'000 years ago and that, at this time, ensured our survival through scarce times through greed and selfishness.
And sadly, you increase returns not by fixing lag, that only the people in 0.0 get to feel when they form fleets to defend assets (that you made worth to defent because there's an economy...), i.e., a small part of the gaming population, but by introducing new and shiny stuff that draws new people into the game.
All hail our economic system. At least I can sleep well with the knowledge that it can't last that way. Or, do you think humanity can always consume more and more to keep interest rising while the "usual people" never earn much more, and we completely lack the technology of recycling and unlimited energy supply to cover "unlimited consumation". But that's probably just me. As always, ignorance is bliss. Now where did I put that greenish stuff that brings me bliss? Real men do it the hard way: fly Minmatar! |
Xystance
Caldari Dreddit
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Posted - 2010.05.13 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Xystance on 13/05/2010 13:31:58 Man, the 500M ISK I paid to that guy in Jita for the lag detector paid off in that H-W battle amirite?
Originally by: Thercon Jair It does start to **** me off a little. I just lost my third ship in H-W inside 1d, all to losing connection (and getting killed by the squad that does nothing but kill people who lose connection).
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JasonKuehn
Gallente The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.13 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gram Hellfire listen - CCP did a fantastic job over the years reducing lag. On the eve of dominion, we were having a bunch of fun in 0.0 with very little lag. Some thing, or some things, within the dominion code screwed this up, and reversed years of the fantastic work of CCP at reducing lag. All i want is to roll back to pre-dominion code.
But... but... we'd lose the pretty planet graphics!
I'm sure everyone would be in complete support of this, too bad it will never happen. CCP makes far more money off new signups than they do off us old players, so: new stuff to advertise > playable large battles
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arjun
Amarr Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.13 16:03:00 -
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make the state of affairs popular in the interweb. discourage others from joining. we dont want more. we the old players are the ones that kept this game running for 7 years. and there is less and less to enjoy for us because of the lag. no need to dance around the fire by either side. the time will come for the nc again where they are on the receiving end of this crap. yah come censor me.
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari 24th Imperial Guard
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Posted - 2010.05.13 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 13/05/2010 16:37:15
Originally by: Thercon Jair ..too long..
Short answer: Welcome to North!
Longer answer: We can completing Molle dreams together.
You and your SC friends leave the game. Lesser lag, NC capture South and all 0.0 will be blue.
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Aloe Cloveris
Gallente Problematique Inc.
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Posted - 2010.05.13 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: Aloe Cloveris on 13/05/2010 17:28:26 Sure, I'll take one for the team and sacrifice an hour on a lazy Saturday to help fix this game I enjoy. Color me a martyr. Unfortunately, I'm terribly sorry I can't devote a full afternoon to clogging Jita and intermittently spamming BAWWW threads. But keep up your selfless toil in these forums.
They need logfiles in a controlled environment if this lag is going to be fixed. Sucks to commit time to something I shouldn't be expected to do, especially if I'm paying for that's supposed to be bug free. Sucks like an Electrolux. Nevertheless, this is the only way we're going to make getting blown up in fleet fights fun again, as opposed to @#$%RAGE-inducing and 'I-cancelled-my-9-accounts' thread-spawning. Be a man for once, grit your teeth and do something not self-serving. A few hundred of us are going to soldier up and give up an hour to hopefully improve (or, rather, at least restore to pre-Dominion lag) the game for the other 300,000+.
Also, if you have a computer that can handle dualboxing, you can testserver for an hour while you wait for a grid on Tranq to load.
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Goberth Ludwig
Caldari eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.13 17:37:00 -
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oh hey another outraged post about the lag
did people already decide they will crash jita in this one? (and ofc never follow through)
- Gob
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CCP Adida
Gallente C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.13 17:59:00 -
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Cleared this thread up of spam.
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Funky Feeling
Caldari Ventis Secundis BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.05.13 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kira Metari 43 K connected players , 1k in h-w complaining about lag ; I wonder why CCP dont make lag their priority .
Yeah.. you're right.. HW is the only system with pilots experiencing lag. ???
Fact is.. just like the Toronto Maple Leafs.. they'll never put a good team on the ice because they can fill the place regardless.
CCP is making scads of dough by keeping all the the addicts, letting the truly disgruntled leave and then attracting a new crop with fancy new releases.. Why fix a problem none of us is willing to quit over?
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Funky Feeling
Caldari Ventis Secundis BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.05.13 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Rixiu Right. Let's get CCP to hire some (read: "lots of") guys to watch the telemetry on each and every node 23/7 waiting for a fleet fight to happen (which usually is during evenings, AFAIK CCP employees work during the day) instead of doing it under controlled circumstances with CCP personnel that take their weekend time to try to improve this.
Right.. once they start paying me for doing their job..
You should get back to your desk and continue something massively important like redesigning the capsule graphics you ccp hack.
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cheese monkey
Minmatar D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.05.13 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida Cleared this thread up of spam.
LOL.
Instead of a proper reply this is basically like saying.
"we are reading this thread, but dont give a ****. go **** yourselves."
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Verys
Caldari Burning Technologies Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.05.13 21:35:00 -
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Calling the whaaaambulance now...
To all you whiners crying your eyes out about CCP not doing anything should really check some dev blogs or even the next expansion information. Better even yet participate in the SISI testing to combat lag.
Originally by: Elisabeth Bathory Stop paying for second account until they fix lag. I did.
Such an ingenious idea! I know an even better workaround to not have any lag at all it's called not playing the game!
On a side note: I am not a CCP employee, I have lag and I don't like it.
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