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Max Wilson Caldari Cryptonym Sleepers Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:01:00 - [1] Let's try to make CCP figth in lag. All 0.0 allys that are sick of lag. Now is your time. Let's go to war with concord. Forump will be jita just after dt tomorrow. CR bs > HAC's > BC's > rest. Caps and supercaps can go shoot lowsec stations.
1Of9 Gallente Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:15:00 - [2] altho i agree ccp is not showing any work done no this issue, and it suckx donkey balls, doing that wont work. ccp have a tons of people making sure jita is up and running pretty mutch 23/7, that's how it looks like anyway
stiflerDK Gallente Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:21:00 - [3] everyone stop pay for this ****ty game for a few months..maybe ccp will wake up then
Garreth Vlox Minmatar Hysterical Dementia DEFI4NT	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:29:00 - [4] Originally by: stiflerDK everyone stop pay for this ****ty game for a few months..maybe ccp will wake up then way ahead of you on this one, i've already turned off 1 of my accounts if things stay the same ill turn off all but my main its getting kinda pathetic that they have time for dust and for expansions but they cant fix the biggest problem in the game. they keep making expansions that push ppl to 0.0 to fight for space, but they overlook the fact that fighting for space is the most irritating thing in the game right now.
FelonyFruitFlinger Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:30:00 - [5] Originally by: stiflerDK everyone stop pay for this ****ty game for a few months..maybe ccp will wake up then Can I borrow your stuff?
stiflerDK Gallente Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:34:00 - [6] way ahead of you on this one, i've already turned off 1 of my accounts if things stay the same ill turn off all but my main its getting kinda pathetic that they have time for dust and for expansions but they cant fix the biggest problem in the game. they keep making expansions that push ppl to 0.0 to fight for space, but they overlook the fact that fighting for space is the most irritating thing in the game right now. this
Rio Zhaan Amarr Dark Skies Coalition	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:36:00 - [7] Originally by: Garreth Vlox way ahead of you on this one, i've already turned off 1 of my accounts if things stay the same ill turn off all but my main its getting kinda pathetic that they have time for dust and for expansions but they cant fix the biggest problem in the game. they keep making expansions that push ppl to 0.0 to fight for space, but they overlook the fact that fighting for space is the most irritating thing in the game right now. This
Terrigal Minmatar Dissolution Of Eternity	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:38:00 - [8] Good idea op, 0.0 alliance set everyone blue. CCP tomorrow 10,000 null sec pilots decend upon empire.
Ed Rush Gallente Erasers inc. Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:40:00 - [9] Starcraft 2 is set to release 27th july :)
Dead Cal Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:41:00 - [10] I need 4 more people to help me build my barn. I also need more nails. Thanks dudes.

Imo thefirst Gallente Cryptonym Sleepers Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:43:00 - [11] Originally by: Dead Cal I need 4 more people to help me build my barn. I also need more nails. Thanks dudes. does armish play eve ? -------------- Imo TheFirst CEO of DSBDK Diplomat for AuroB
Radarman Caldari Quam Singulari Cult of War	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:43:00 - [12] Originally by: stiflerDK everyone stop pay for this ****ty game for a few months..maybe ccp will wake up then This
Christina Aguilera Caldari DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:43:00 - [13] Originally by: Rio Zhaan Originally by: Garreth Vlox way ahead of you on this one, i've already turned off 1 of my accounts if things stay the same ill turn off all but my main its getting kinda pathetic that they have time for dust and for expansions but they cant fix the biggest problem in the game. they keep making expansions that push ppl to 0.0 to fight for space, but they overlook the fact that fighting for space is the most irritating thing in the game right now. This signed.
Lasakywa Caldari Section XIII Cursed Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:51:00 - [14] Edited by: Lasakywa on 11/05/2010 19:51:34 Developping some walking **** in station and planet ressources brings new players and money. On the other hand, fixing lag won't bring them more money. Because guess what, the game is still laggy as it was 4 years ago and we are still playing it (let's face it, we love shooting at each other, lag or not).
Max Wilson Caldari Cryptonym Sleepers Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:51:00 - [15] Originally by: Imo thefirst Originally by: Dead Cal I need 4 more people to help me build my barn. I also need more nails. Thanks dudes. does armish play eve ? Oh snap!
robbyx Caldari Sons Of Alexander On the Rocks	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:54:00 - [16] Up until now i have been paying for EVE with real life cash, because EVE is a great game and worthy of my support...however, ive come to realize that CCP as a company are utterly incompetent...im sure they try very hard, as im sure the participants in the special Olympics try very hard...but when your getting cash from me, "trying" just isnt good enough, i expect a certain level of service...twice in the last week i have been unable to play the game due to CCP's inability to keep their server running...it is just not good enough. One account will be made inactive at the end of this month, second account will now be paid for with isk.
Imo thefirst Gallente Cryptonym Sleepers Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.05.11 20:03:00 - [17] *hums on the first day of gameplay my server gave to me the black screen of incompetence by ccp -------------- Imo TheFirst CEO of DSBDK Diplomat for AuroB
Lord TGR Minmatar hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.05.11 20:09:00 - [18] Competition time, biggest blocking time number, since we're all so productive in-game. I'm currently at 304h 4m 48s.
Roark Garnet Minmatar Pulsar Inc. Cursed Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.11 20:10:00 - [19] Yet I dont know why people keep on piling up, knowing they will spend a great evening looking at a loading screen.
Gram Hellfire Caldari Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.11 20:15:00 - [20] listen - CCP did a fantastic job over the years reducing lag. On the eve of dominion, we were having a bunch of fun in 0.0 with very little lag. Some thing, or some things, within the dominion code screwed this up, and reversed years of the fantastic work of CCP at reducing lag. All i want is to roll back to pre-dominion code.

Sextus Licinius Caldari Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.11 20:17:00 - [21] So what do we do now CCP? "These people that we've wasted today are the finest human beings ever. When we'll rotate back in the world, we gonna miss not having anyone worth shooting... Full Metal Jacket"
Kira Metari Caldari IMpAct Corp Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2010.05.11 20:48:00 - [22] 43 K connected players , 1k in h-w complaining about lag ; I wonder why CCP dont make lag their priority .
HebrewBullion Excavator Amarr Slacker Industries The Boat Violencing Initiative	Posted - 2010.05.11 21:03:00 - [23] Originally by: robbyx Up until now i have been paying for EVE with real life cash ....second account will now be paid for with isk. You do realize that paying with isk and paying with cash amounts to the same thing, right?
Thunder1971 Caldari Virtual Warriors IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2010.05.11 21:35:00 - [24] Originally by: Garreth Vlox Originally by: stiflerDK everyone stop pay for this ****ty game for a few months..maybe ccp will wake up then way ahead of you on this one, i've already turned off 1 of my accounts if things stay the same ill turn off all but my main its getting kinda pathetic that they have time for dust and for expansions but they cant fix the biggest problem in the game. they keep making expansions that push ppl to 0.0 to fight for space, but they overlook the fact that fighting for space is the most irritating thing in the game right now. This +1 "comrades in arms know the meaning of true friendship".
igRaVeN Amarr Local-Spike Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:15:00 - [25] Maybe you could stop *****ing and actually help fight lag on the test server... INFO :: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555 Also, If anyone is leaving/taking a break... Send me your stuff... I'll take great care of it.
Slap Chop Minmatar GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.05.12 00:14:00 - [26] Originally by: igRaVeN Maybe you could stop *****ing and actually help fight lag on the test server... INFO :: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555 Sweet, how much do they pay?
boliano Caldari Reaction Theory Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.05.12 02:11:00 - [27] Originally by: Imo thefirst *hums on the first day of gameplay my server gave to me the black screen of incompetence by ccp Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..........omg this is the best...True but really funny as hell though.
Fishslapper Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 02:40:00 - [28] Although permanently reinforcing the H-W node for the next week or two might save CCP a truckload of grief... CCP - Would that be too hard?
Tibalt Avalon Amarr Suck my Titan Order Of The Unforgiving	Posted - 2010.05.12 03:32:00 - [29] Posting in a crap TNT thread. Hardstyle Ambassador
THEDON1 Caldari Dark-Rising IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 03:40:00 - [30] how about they just reinforce the whole ****ing server? maybee that would help. and nevermind 1000 players with lag in one system this game is unplayable with 500 in system in battle. maybee if we took our fleet fights to jita they would listen for once.

Yakoff Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.05.12 03:45:00 - [31] Originally by: Tibalt Avalon Posting in a crap TNT thread. My god TNT, I tell you guys that life called me back and I would be unavailable for 2 days and you all decide to try and grow a brain without me. First off, who untied you and removed the ball gags. For this mission to be accomplished, we must set all reds to blue. Once that is done, all blues need to scout out Jita for any non npc controlled corporations and war dec said phillocastrophoc (don't bother looking it up, it does not exist) corporations. After that, let the whines start. Actually, anyone here know snot shot personally? Maybe he already has this information that can be purchased with a shiny isk. Once we get this all settled, we deploy Yakoff maneuver 169.04567. While you are all hanging out in Jita, I will be raiding 0.0 mining your mercoxite. Sorry, little drunk. I might wake up in the morning regretting this post, life, wife, kids in general, not having my dog spaded, and not having my cat declawed. Now where did I put that bottle of Captain Morgans. ___ It deosnt mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, olny taht the frist and lsat leettr be in the rghit pclae. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef.
Rixiu Amarr The Forgotten Navy The Forgotten Heritage	Posted - 2010.05.12 04:01:00 - [32] Originally by: igRaVeN Maybe you could stop *****ing and actually help fight lag on the test server... INFO :: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555 This! 1600 players in H-W... Then get all of those onto sisi and help fix lag instead of just whining on the forums like a baby. Getting into the mass test seems like a way better and more mature approach than flood jita or whatever like some guys purpose. But hey, don't listen to CCP... right?
D3rg3 Minmatar Alpann Siad Anam Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 04:09:00 - [33] Originally by: Rixiu onto sisi and help fix lag yeah because the sisi method is working so well so far how about they just monitor and watch the game ACTUALLY BEING USED seems like it would be much more valuable info
Rixiu Amarr The Forgotten Navy The Forgotten Heritage	Posted - 2010.05.12 04:33:00 - [34] Right. Let's get CCP to hire some (read: "lots of") guys to watch the telemetry on each and every node 23/7 waiting for a fleet fight to happen (which usually is during evenings, AFAIK CCP employees work during the day) instead of doing it under controlled circumstances with CCP personnel that take their weekend time to try to improve this.
Koronos Minmatar Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.05.12 04:39:00 - [35] Originally by: igRaVeN Also, If anyone is leaving/taking a break... Send me your stuff... I'll take great care of it. Dude, borrow meme was totally introduced 2:45 before you by FelonyFruitFlinger. get with the program.
Eskalin Minmatar Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 04:40:00 - [36] Edited by: Eskalin on 12/05/2010 04:43:11 Originally by: Rixiu Originally by: igRaVeN Maybe you could stop ****ing and actually help fight lag on the test server... INFO :: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555 This! 1600 players in H-W... Then get all of those onto sisi and help fix lag instead of just whining on the forums like a baby. Getting into the mass test seems like a way better and more mature approach than flood jita or whatever like some guys purpose. But hey, don't listen to CCP... right? NO. Fck getting on sisi. they know what nodes we are fighting in and can observe the lag in action there if they where truly interested in finding a solution. how you may ask, CAUSE WE FUKING TELL THEM AHEAD OF TIME YOU BLATHERING GOBSHTE. complaints on this forum will solve nothing. vote with your wallet if "you mad" i do find the idea of the 0.0 players war-decing each other and having all battles in market hubs till the issue is at least addressed by ccp both hilarious and posibly motivating at the same time though Originally by: Rixiu Right. Let's get CCP to hire some (read: "lots of") guys to watch the telemetry on each and every node 23/7 waiting for a fleet fight to happen (which usually is during evenings, AFAIK CCP employees work during the day) instead of doing it under controlled circumstances with CCP personnel that take their weekend time to try to improve this. cause it's not like their job or anything to make a playable game for >300k subscribers, is it? If babies weren't to be eaten they wouldn't be hibachi sized
Damien Shroud Gallente Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 04:44:00 - [37] Originally by: stiflerDK everyone stop pay for this **ty game for a few months..maybe ccp will wake up then WAAAY ahead of you on this...I canceled both of my accounts back when CVAs cap fleet got f*** (they run out in a couple of weeks now I think) ps. I thought everyone learned their lesson from d-g anyways...
Damzan Gallente DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 05:01:00 - [38] -Signed CCP your game is officially s-h-i-t. Be proud of your f-a-r-k up cause you could have reverted to something that actually worked. But please keep releasing new content cause thats whats needed...Not fixes to a broken game. -end rant.
Tiger's Spirit Caldari 24th Imperial Guard	Posted - 2010.05.12 06:30:00 - [39] Originally by: Damzan -Signed CCP your game is officially s-h-i-t. Be proud of your f-a-r-k up cause you could have reverted to something that actually worked. But please keep releasing new content cause thats whats needed...Not fixes to a broken game. -end rant. Just delete your account little Bob pet. Lesser crocodile tears, lesser lag and more NC happiness.
Myz Toyou Minmatar APOCALYPSE LEGION	Posted - 2010.05.12 06:45:00 - [40] Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Originally by: Damzan -Signed CCP your game is officially s-h-i-t. Be proud of your f-a-r-k up cause you could have reverted to something that actually worked. But please keep releasing new content cause thats whats needed...Not fixes to a broken game. -end rant. Just delete your account little Bob pet. Lesser crocodile tears, lesser lag and more NC happiness. Yes

Dear Hunter Minmatar Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 10:31:00 - [41] Guys, where are you all so **ed about? Do you know that CCP has schrinks to help them out? Now it is us, the south, that came in problems with the crash. So we are wining and NC is laughing. Next time, it will be the NC that wil be in disadvantage. Then NC wil wine, and we can laugh. And so it keeps on going and everybody is going to be **ed and happy. Simple, is it not?
Thunder1971 Caldari Virtual Warriors IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2010.05.12 10:41:00 - [42] So what you are saying is simply...no matter what side you are on everybody is influenced by this....without exception. So whatever happens we should make a statement together. Create a O.O union or something :)) A union that goes beyond flag colors, races, alliances, corporation standings etc... There are very probably reasons why CCP wants to do this in a controlled environment..but tbh I don't see why it cannot be done with the nodes that are supporting H-W? Some adaptions can be made during downtime that would help them monitor things? Oh well...whatever...it needs fixing. Too bad that the weekend is a bad timing for me, if I wasn't killing SC's whenever I could come online, I might just've made it to sisi. "comrades in arms know the meaning of true friendship".
Le Cardinal Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 11:33:00 - [43] Personally i feel the game is running fairly smooth most of the time. Guns cycle and timer aint bad either.
Elisabeth Bathory Minmatar Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 12:42:00 - [44] Stop paying for second account until they fix lag. I did.
Xiaodown Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 13:25:00 - [45] If you guys are that pissed off about it, why don't you just pick a month like 6 months out and get a big campaign together where everyone cancels their subscriptions for one month - make it a big deal, make a website / facebook group / forum sigs / whatever. Sign a pledge to cancel your accounts for one month, with a promise to resub after the month. If you get enough people to do that, you could probably create quite a stir in the CCP office. Of course, if you don't get enough people, you'll just be handing them carte blanche to ignore the lag further because not enough people are willing to vote with their Euros. -------- TBH, I was a big fan of the SISI testing idea, but that's gone effing nowhere, and before the last big patch the game was playable, so it's not like there's no evidence for what's caused the lag. svn blame, yo. -------- Also, if you could get all alliance leaders to agree not to be dicks and have a one month wardec where everyone fights their fleet battles in Motsu / Rens / Amarr / Hek / Ours (non-jita important systems), that would be hilarious and probably effective. Plus, would be a nice break from CAPS ONLINE!!! for a while. --
Svetlanna Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.05.12 13:38:00 - [46] We are impatiently waiting for the next CCP game development team power point presentation during the next Fan Feast about walking in stations and its nice graphics! Keep at it boyz, we EVE customers are really into that... it also looks like You were diagnosed with a brain tumor, and your doctor is talking to you about some nice cream to reduce wrinkles on your feet... Do you really think CCP gives a S... about the concept of lag for which they NEVER HAVE ANY TRACK anyway in their system when you lose a ship??? laughable.
cheese monkey Minmatar D00M. RED.OverLord	Posted - 2010.05.12 14:09:00 - [47] true story. CCP dont care. when 2 entities such as NC and SC are in battle it is impossible to do anything. Mechanics, gameplay, developments, sov changes, stations upgrades, billions spent on fleets and titans, none of this matters. The lag makes all of these things a mute point. Heres yet anthoer thread that CCP doesnt care about. We wont get a reply. Im taking 2 weeks off. If things dont change that 2 weeks will turn into forever.
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 14:38:00 - [48] Originally by: Xiaodown sexually explicit material I LOVE YOU SIR BUT GHSC IS FOR NEWBIES. YOUR IDEA IS **** EXCEPT FOR I THINK NO ONE WOULD ACTUALLY DO IT FOR FEAR OF THEIR ENEMIES TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MISSING NUMBERS :[
Jeromis Darklord Gallente Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.05.12 14:57:00 - [49] If its anything like the last testing event, it will be full of some planetary crap nobody cares about. And like last time, after 5 minutes I'll just log out. If they are actually testing for fleet lag , I'll be glad to help ccp. Posting in a terrible thread (I hate all you TNT posters, diaf)
Faekurias Caldari Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.05.12 15:39:00 - [50] Edited by: Faekurias on 12/05/2010 15:42:20 Originally by: Roark Garnet Yet I dont know why people keep on piling up, knowing they will spend a great evening looking at a loading screen. trying to win :C

Nostradamous Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 15:56:00 - [51] Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Just delete your account little Bob pet. Lesser crocodile tears, lesser lag and more NC happiness. I'd join you in your laughter if it was indeed funny, but bob is a lie...Ive been told that Band of Brothers is actually run by goons now...I know, its hard to believe.
Golya Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 16:06:00 - [52] We all moan about lag, some more than others, you are chasing a rainbow if u think that it will ever go away, the shear numbers/weight of data the game presents to the nodes/servers makes this a pipe dream. Having played eve since it started in various guises, I can confirm that the improvements in game code and hardware have only just kept up with the popularity of the game, once 10k users online was milestone it seems laughably small now in comparison with todays numbers. The only possible way to reduce lag within the game is to reduce the eyecandy, remove the data intensive sub-routines and have a more basic, more leaner gameplay. One would say a gameplay for the purist where quality of game play overrides the quality of the visual aspects. How many of you are willing to forgo the following: 1. Local window and the ability to chat there ? ( afterall do you walk into a pitchblack room and a window pops up to tell you who is there ? local is not realistic and losing it would make pvp far more interesting ( I would get rid of all the other useless chat windows too ones that nobody uses anyway. leaving just Corp, Alliance and Fleet. I do have a real problem with local spamming, be it in jita with the isk spammers, scammers offering " not to be missed deals" on fake items or the people quitting eve promising to return double any isk sent to them, then into my area of interest 0.0 with the infantile smack talk and constant spamming of local chat with non stop rubbish text, IMHO if the children do not play nice with their toys then take them away. I never talk in local an most of the time I have in minimised so it would not be a loss to me. 2. Ship textures. I am not bothered if the outside of my ship is blue green or a rusty red I spend 99.9999999 of my time inside looking out and as long as I can see the brackets/overview of targets what they look like is not essential. 3.Space/planets/moons Get rid of all the extra eyecandy involved in these. Snow storms on ursa geo or a gas cloud around zaphod does not make the game any better for me compared to a lag free or reduce lag enviroment in which I can enjoy the game. All these are not drastic and apart from upsetting those who stare at the screen at the pretty pictures and marvel at the textures of the ships and structures instead of actually doing anything in the game they would not be missed after a while. Just my POV. flame if u must, give it consideration on its merits just do not dismiss it out of hand. Eve is still a good game and there is nothing remotely like it out there that comes close.
Svetlanna Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.05.12 19:13:00 - [53] Originally by: Golya We all moan about lag, some more than others, you are chasing a rainbow if u think that it will ever go away, the shear numbers/weight of data the game presents to the nodes/servers makes this a pipe dream. Having played eve since it started in various guises, I can confirm that the improvements in game code and hardware have only just kept up with the popularity of the game, once 10k users online was milestone it seems laughably small now in comparison with todays numbers. The only possible way to reduce lag within the game is to reduce the eyecandy, remove the data intensive sub-routines and have a more basic, more leaner gameplay. One would say a gameplay for the purist where quality of game play overrides the quality of the visual aspects. How many of you are willing to forgo the following: 1. Local window and the ability to chat there ? ( afterall do you walk into a pitchblack room and a window pops up to tell you who is there ? local is not realistic and losing it would make pvp far more interesting ( I would get rid of all the other useless chat windows too ones that nobody uses anyway. leaving just Corp, Alliance and Fleet. I do have a real problem with local spamming, be it in jita with the isk spammers, scammers offering " not to be missed deals" on fake items or the people quitting eve promising to return double any isk sent to them, then into my area of interest 0.0 with the infantile smack talk and constant spamming of local chat with non stop rubbish text, IMHO if the children do not play nice with their toys then take them away. I never talk in local an most of the time I have in minimised so it would not be a loss to me. 2. Ship textures. I am not bothered if the outside of my ship is blue green or a rusty red I spend 99.9999999 of my time inside looking out and as long as I can see the brackets/overview of targets what they look like is not essential. 3.Space/planets/moons Get rid of all the extra eyecandy involved in these. Snow storms on ursa geo or a gas cloud around zaphod does not make the game any better for me compared to a lag free or reduce lag enviroment in which I can enjoy the game. All these are not drastic and apart from upsetting those who stare at the screen at the pretty pictures and marvel at the textures of the ships and structures instead of actually doing anything in the game they would not be missed after a while. Just my POV. flame if u must, give it consideration on its merits just do not dismiss it out of hand. Eve is still a good game and there is nothing remotely like it out there that comes close. Amen to 99.9% of what you are suggesting. But you are forgetting one thing: THE MARKETING, Bob, THE MARKETING! To market and promote massively a product, you need some nice packaging around it so it pleases and attracts customers! Welcome to Mass Market Land where quality dies to quantity! Sadly. How about having a nice official post from CCP dudes to show us how much they care and what they intend to do to correct the issue (or try at least)?
Labyrnth Gallente Invicta. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2010.05.12 19:44:00 - [54] They already sucked us in and had us paying for years now they made their money and dont really care. Now they are just worried about having a constant flow of new players, and honestly they aren't going to really change that way of marketing, they already have our money, they just want more. --
sodney Minmatar No Limit Productions Looney Toons.	Posted - 2010.05.12 20:26:00 - [55] Edited by: sodney on 12/05/2010 20:27:39 Originally by: igRaVeN Maybe you could stop *****ing and actually help fight lag on the test server... INFO :: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555 Also, If anyone is leaving/taking a break... Send me your stuff... I'll take great care of it. I too would love to have people do my testing for free. edit: to all the people crying about us not going to help fix the lag, it's not like the players broke it, ccp did with dominion. They should probably fix it too :o Considering I pay for the game, wouldn't want to do their work for them......
Milostiev Caldari Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.12 22:43:00 - [56] Originally by: Slap Chop Originally by: igRaVeN Maybe you could stop *****ing and actually help fight lag on the test server... INFO :: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1267555 Sweet, how much do they pay? Agreeing with a goon ... i feel dirty. :(
Bisba Caldari Resonance. RED.OverLord	Posted - 2010.05.12 23:23:00 - [57] Found this one on omgrawr, been there for ages, but it seems things haven't changed much. Ikvar > What **es me off is this: Ikvar > CCP: Oh my god, look how many people we have on our sharless server! Ikvar > Server: Griiind crunch die Ikvar > CCP: Oh my god, look how many people we have on our sharless server! Ikvar > Players: Fix the **ing lag Ikvar > CCP: Oh my god, look how many people we have on our sharless server! Also, new mining barges!
Roemy Schneider Minmatar Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.05.13 00:16:00 - [58] even though a C&C guy is in charge of Starcraft 2, the ongoing, monthly changes are more logical than anything CCP has come up with for the past... 2-3 years. also, more fps - putting the gist back into logistics
Farham Gallente The Fimbriani Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2010.05.13 02:03:00 - [59] I would just like to point out an informal fact about this thread that leads me to a wildly speculative conclusion. All the IT posters stop short of saying stop paying. Therefore IT posters all work for CCP. Therefore all members of IT work for CCP. /Outrage On! Not hacking it in 0.0 since 2006 Farham is my name, and fail quoting is my game.
JT Black Amarr GK inc. Panda Team	Posted - 2010.05.13 10:31:00 - [60] CCP hire me to make lag worse. thx for the lag keep this fa*s in check. now cry me a river.

Thercon Jair Minmatar Nex Exercitus IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.13 11:44:00 - [61] It does start to ** me off a little. I just lost my third ship in H-W inside 1d, all to losing connection (and getting killed by the squad that does nothing but kill people who lose connection). Now, CCP, this isn't WoW where there is no real economy, as nothing ever really dies. You just find your body, go to that smith, pay a couple coppers, and you're good to go again! This is EVE, we spend hours to make the isk for a battleship. Then we (or some logistics people) spend hours to get the ship to where it needs to be. And then you get immediately killed by your abysmal server performance. If you create a game with a true economy, at least make it so that you don't lose your assets because of game issues. Losing a POS, for example, comes to mind, because the attack mail doesn't get sent. Or sent too late so that you can't stront the tower even though you only covered 2 systems in 2min to get to the tower. But looking through your annual reports and seeing that investor interest steadily rises, combined with the knowledge that investors always want to see more return on their investment, and are not afraid to put up pressure to get what they want, because, what are you going to do to stop them from taking their money and investing into something that promises them more return? So, basically, what I'm saying, you've become another victim of your own success, thanks to how our economy is working, and thanks to the fact that humans are humans, with the same instincts that we had 100'000 years ago and that, at this time, ensured our survival through scarce times through greed and selfishness. And sadly, you increase returns not by fixing lag, that only the people in 0.0 get to feel when they form fleets to defend assets (that you made worth to defent because there's an economy...), i.e., a small part of the gaming population, but by introducing new and shiny stuff that draws new people into the game. All hail our economic system. At least I can sleep well with the knowledge that it can't last that way. Or, do you think humanity can always consume more and more to keep interest rising while the "usual people" never earn much more, and we completely lack the technology of recycling and unlimited energy supply to cover "unlimited consumation". But that's probably just me. As always, ignorance is bliss. Now where did I put that greenish stuff that brings me bliss? Real men do it the hard way: fly Minmatar!**
Xystance Caldari Dreddit	Posted - 2010.05.13 13:31:00 - [62] Edited by: Xystance on 13/05/2010 13:31:58 Man, the 500M ISK I paid to that guy in Jita for the lag detector paid off in that H-W battle amirite? Originally by: Thercon Jair It does start to **** me off a little. I just lost my third ship in H-W inside 1d, all to losing connection (and getting killed by the squad that does nothing but kill people who lose connection).
JasonKuehn Gallente The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.05.13 14:31:00 - [63] Originally by: Gram Hellfire listen - CCP did a fantastic job over the years reducing lag. On the eve of dominion, we were having a bunch of fun in 0.0 with very little lag. Some thing, or some things, within the dominion code screwed this up, and reversed years of the fantastic work of CCP at reducing lag. All i want is to roll back to pre-dominion code. But... but... we'd lose the pretty planet graphics! I'm sure everyone would be in complete support of this, too bad it will never happen. CCP makes far more money off new signups than they do off us old players, so: new stuff to advertise > playable large battles
arjun Amarr Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.05.13 16:03:00 - [64] make the state of affairs popular in the interweb. discourage others from joining. we dont want more. we the old players are the ones that kept this game running for 7 years. and there is less and less to enjoy for us because of the lag. no need to dance around the fire by either side. the time will come for the nc again where they are on the receiving end of this crap. yah come censor me.
Tiger's Spirit Caldari 24th Imperial Guard	Posted - 2010.05.13 16:37:00 - [65] Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 13/05/2010 16:37:15 Originally by: Thercon Jair ..too long.. Short answer: Welcome to North! Longer answer: We can completing Molle dreams together. You and your SC friends leave the game. Lesser lag, NC capture South and all 0.0 will be blue.
Aloe Cloveris Gallente Problematique Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.13 17:28:00 - [66] Edited by: Aloe Cloveris on 13/05/2010 17:28:26 Sure, I'll take one for the team and sacrifice an hour on a lazy Saturday to help fix this game I enjoy. Color me a martyr. Unfortunately, I'm terribly sorry I can't devote a full afternoon to clogging Jita and intermittently spamming BAWWW threads. But keep up your selfless toil in these forums. They need logfiles in a controlled environment if this lag is going to be fixed. Sucks to commit time to something I shouldn't be expected to do, especially if I'm paying for that's supposed to be bug free. Sucks like an Electrolux. Nevertheless, this is the only way we're going to make getting blown up in fleet fights fun again, as opposed to @#$%RAGE-inducing and 'I-cancelled-my-9-accounts' thread-spawning. Be a man for once, grit your teeth and do something not self-serving. A few hundred of us are going to soldier up and give up an hour to hopefully improve (or, rather, at least restore to pre-Dominion lag) the game for the other 300,000+. Also, if you have a computer that can handle dualboxing, you can testserver for an hour while you wait for a grid on Tranq to load.
Goberth Ludwig Caldari eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.05.13 17:37:00 - [67] oh hey another outraged post about the lag did people already decide they will crash jita in this one? (and ofc never follow through) - Gob

CCP Adida Gallente C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.13 17:59:00 - [68] Cleared this thread up of spam. Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Funky Feeling Caldari Ventis Secundis BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.05.13 19:42:00 - [69] Originally by: Kira Metari 43 K connected players , 1k in h-w complaining about lag ; I wonder why CCP dont make lag their priority . Yeah.. you're right.. HW is the only system with pilots experiencing lag. ??? Fact is.. just like the Toronto Maple Leafs.. they'll never put a good team on the ice because they can fill the place regardless. CCP is making scads of dough by keeping all the the addicts, letting the truly disgruntled leave and then attracting a new crop with fancy new releases.. Why fix a problem none of us is willing to quit over?
Funky Feeling Caldari Ventis Secundis BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.05.13 19:47:00 - [70] Originally by: Rixiu Right. Let's get CCP to hire some (read: "lots of") guys to watch the telemetry on each and every node 23/7 waiting for a fleet fight to happen (which usually is during evenings, AFAIK CCP employees work during the day) instead of doing it under controlled circumstances with CCP personnel that take their weekend time to try to improve this. Right.. once they start paying me for doing their job.. You should get back to your desk and continue something massively important like redesigning the capsule graphics you ccp hack.

cheese monkey Minmatar D00M. RED.OverLord	Posted - 2010.05.13 19:47:00 - [71] Originally by: CCP Adida Cleared this thread up of spam. LOL. Instead of a proper reply this is basically like saying. "we are reading this thread, but dont give a **. go ** yourselves."
Verys Caldari Burning Technologies Cult of War	Posted - 2010.05.13 21:35:00 - [72] Calling the whaaaambulance now... To all you whiners crying your eyes out about CCP not doing anything should really check some dev blogs or even the next expansion information. Better even yet participate in the SISI testing to combat lag. Originally by: Elisabeth Bathory Stop paying for second account until they fix lag. I did. Such an ingenious idea! I know an even better workaround to not have any lag at all it's called not playing the game! On a side note: I am not a CCP employee, I have lag and I don't like it. Add Fleet Subscriptions to the fleet menu


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