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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2010.05.12 19:57:00 -
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EVE Gate Alpha is just about finished, and Beta is just around the corner. Learn all about EVE Gate in CCP Priya's newest dev blog.
Fallout Associate Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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NightmareX
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.12 20:02:00 -
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First. And it's looking nice.
Looking forward to use it when it's fully released.
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Karbowiak
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.05.12 20:09:00 -
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Now, if you would just make a mail system API..
So we can actually send mails from applications and also recieve them, then it would all be peachy
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Silvermoon Armanis
Gallente Phlegethos The 4th
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Posted - 2010.05.12 20:23:00 -
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Will EvE gate be useable by the Dusters too? or will it be EvE online capsuleers only? |
Lord FunkyMunky
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Posted - 2010.05.12 20:35:00 -
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enable pop3 access to evegate and i'll be estatic but webaccess is good enough for now hehe...
one thing thats got me really annoyed that didnt show up in evegate that really should have been their for launch
1. Access to chat channels... Seriously why not just implement a java or javascript chat client and give us access to our ingame chat from evegate.
2. Skill queue... i was hoping we were going to get surprised with the ability to stop/start/manipulate our queue...
Those 2 are the 2 main ones that i really thought would show up but didnt, i know market access is planned but thats a bigger issue surrounding pilot distance from orders etc... the skill queue and chat channels really have no reason not to be included that i can see...
Will we see features like this added between major updates? or are we going to have to wait till december to see evegate get any real new features (besides bugfixes etc)
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.12 20:38:00 -
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Rawr!
Secure 3rd party service | my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' |
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Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2010.05.12 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout EVE Gate Alpha is just about finished, and Beta is just around the corner. Learn all about EVE Gate in CCP Priya's newest dev blog.
Looks great!!!
But this one worries me a little:
Originally by: CCP Priya - Devblog Our plan is to eventually offer everything on EVE Gate that you can do in game apart from explorations in space and blowing stuff up.
Does this mean we will - in time - be able to set/change skills through the web page? Does this mean that your earlier stance against this have been changed?
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL. |
Milo Caman
Gallente Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.05.12 20:47:00 -
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Yay for Facebook in space! ---
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.05.12 20:54:00 -
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So, no new forum? (speaking of stuff that needs carbon dating) ...
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Shaul Amaninatis
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.05.12 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Originally by: CCP Priya - Devblog Our plan is to eventually offer everything on EVE Gate that you can do in game apart from explorations in space and blowing stuff up.
Does this mean we will - in time - be able to set/change skills through the web page? Does this mean that your earlier stance against this have been changed?
There are more things that come to my mind. Will we be able to: - do industry stuff (invention, manufacturing, etc) - set up market orders (sell and buy) - set up contracts (all types therof) - upgrade our clones - access hangars and containers
I think that would be really wierd. Such a set of features would eventually enable some industrialists to "play" the game through EVE Gate... All you would then need are some slaves... err corp mates doing the hauling and the POS management.
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Malios45
People with Guns Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.05.12 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shaul Amaninatis
I think that would be really wierd. Such a set of features would eventually enable some industrialists to "play" the game through EVE Gate... All you would then need are some slaves... err corp mates doing the hauling and the POS management.
This kind of brings an interesting perspective into view. That the pinnacle of EVE (as an industrialist) is to eventually not have to play EVE at all.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.12 22:05:00 -
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Most of this is cool stuff, though I knew about a lot of it already. But two things strike me as being remarkably stupid.
1) You deleted contact folders, which are virtually necessary to have anything approaching sensible organization for anyone with more than maybe two dozen contacts, since the contact lists in game forcibly show portraits and there's zero sorting functionality.
2) There's no block functionality with launch? That's been standard in any sort of social interaction medium since the mid-90s. How exactly did you overlook it?
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Zita Ziv
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Posted - 2010.05.12 22:22:00 -
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Great! too bad I'll be useing FB most of the time. you sure you cant syinc it?
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mkmin
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Posted - 2010.05.12 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lord FunkyMunky are we going to have to wait till december to see evegate get any real new features (besides bugfixes etc)
Don't be silly. You won't see any bug fixes until way after December.
Also to CCP... you claim at least 3 times in that dev blog that you're trying to meet the desires of your users. The only users who care about spacebook are rookies. Well, give me the option to opt out of spacebook. I don't want my show-info available at all in spacebook, or at least not for certain characters. You're spoiling what would be a useful tool for corp and alliance interaction by turning it into a griefing tool. I don't trust you people to not be broadcasting all my info that should be locked behind the API. I don't trust you people to get the whole "some people can see your buddy list but other people can't" stuff right. You people implemented spacebook in the absolutely worst way possible, by publicizing peoples' info from sisi and not telling them, not giving people the option to hide that information without manually deleting their contacts, and then forcing people into using it live without giving them a chance to get used to how it works on the live server. The right way to do implement it would have been opt-in only on sisi, then an opt-in only on TQ and eventually automatically opt-in new accounts only. You say this thing is meant to foster social interaction with the eve community. Well guess what: a non-trivial portion of the EVE community are bastards. There's a reason EVE scandals make the real world news. By implementing spacebook this way the next scandal won't be seen as an EVE scandal, it's a CCP scandal. |
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CCP Karuck
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Posted - 2010.05.12 22:35:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Karuck on 12/05/2010 22:36:22
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
1) You deleted contact folders, which are virtually necessary to have anything approaching sensible organization for anyone with more than maybe two dozen contacts, since the contact lists in game forcibly show portraits and there's zero sorting functionality.
Yes, like we started in another thread we did realize this and it will be added soon in the form of contact labels (very similar to the labels in the mail system).
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
2) There's no block functionality with launch? That's been standard in any sort of social interaction medium since the mid-90s. How exactly did you overlook it?
Block is in client, we had to delay it for a week or two on EVE Gate.
Originally by: Zita Ziv Great! too bad I'll be useing FB most of the time. you sure you cant syinc it?
FB is for real people, EVE Gate is a part of the EVE universe and for EVE pilots.
Also a lot of the ideas here are already being planned, we just aren't ready to announce anything yet.
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Enthral
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Posted - 2010.05.12 22:35:00 -
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Releasing this on May 18th, at the same time as Dominion?
Wow, you folks are gluttons for punishment.
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CCP Karuck
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Posted - 2010.05.12 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: mkmin
Originally by: Lord FunkyMunky are we going to have to wait till december to see evegate get any real new features (besides bugfixes etc)
Don't be silly. You won't see any bug fixes until way after December.
Then I'm looking forward to proving you wrong :) we will keep working on EVE Gate after the first launch, and plan to push out updates regularly.
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CCP Karuck
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Posted - 2010.05.12 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Enthral Releasing this on May 18th, at the same time as Dominion?
Wow, you folks are gluttons for punishment.
EVE Gate is one of the major features of Tyrannis. EVE Gate is a part of the game, not some external website that has nothing to do with the rest.
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Latex Underwear
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Posted - 2010.05.12 22:45:00 -
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How do I opt-out? I don't want anything to do with this.
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Jurai Talar
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Posted - 2010.05.12 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Latex Underwear How do I opt-out? I don't want anything to do with this.
Easy, don't use it.
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Tipz NexAstrum
Celestial Horizon Corp. United Corporate Ventures
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Posted - 2010.05.12 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Priya Our original character portrait service is approaching the age when you would need radiocarbon dating to determine its age. So we decided to create a whole new system for image rendering that scales better, is more reliable and supports all sorts of images, including corporation and alliance logos.
Eagerly looking forward to the return of "Dude your face!"
Originally by: CCP Navigator People who think I am joking or talking big are going to understand very quickly that there will be order in these forums.
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Riffix
The Graduates
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Posted - 2010.05.12 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Karbowiak Now, if you would just make a mail system API..
So we can actually send mails from applications and also recieve them, then it would all be peachy
^^ This! As cool as it may be to access these things out of the game, if I can only get to this information through a specific web portal I don't see how that is a drastic improvement over running the EVE client, except for maybe system reqs. For this type of information to really get "out of game" for the players, it needs to be able to integrate with the communication processes people already use out of game (email, mobile phone, IM, etc). PLEASE setup these types of connectors to this data and if you do email PLEASE support IMAP!
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Cinori Aluben
Minmatar Gladiators of Rage Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.05.12 23:44:00 -
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Good Read! Looking forward to full-fledged EVE Gate. More comments to follow.
Cinori Aluben CSM5 2010Fix the Little Things First! ---
Cinori Aluben -- CSM 2010!! "Fix the Little Things First!" http://www.littlethingsfirst.com |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.13 00:39:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 13/05/2010 00:44:01
Originally by: Jurai Talar
Originally by: Latex Underwear How do I opt-out? I don't want anything to do with this.
Easy, don't use it.
That's rather difficult, especially when CCP automatically thinks "Hey, person A has person B set as blue, obviously we should tell person B all the other people that person A has set blue as well".
The only way to opt-out is to rush onto eve gate after the patch, and do it for EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER - oh wait, only so many people can log on at the start. Great.
I said it before, I'll say it again:
CCP is trying to merge in game "Target Identification" with "Friend".
"Friend" does not necessarily imply "Do Not Shoot" "Do Not Shoot" does not necessarily imply "Friend"
I have more people that are set red for target identification that are friends I would actually like to network with on EVE Gate than there are people I have set blue.
Sadly, not only can I not use it for that, I also need to opt out of EVE Gate so it doesn't share my "do not engage lists". In fact, I've already had to download the Sisi client just to delete all my contacts while this was in development.
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Isoceth
Crayven Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.13 01:57:00 -
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Did anyone else notice in the profile screenshot that the characters ship is listed as Out of Pod. Sounds a bit like Incarna to me. And yes I know it's not coming for ages.
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AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.13 02:43:00 -
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So I'm assuming that the default is opt-out, right? Because no company would be so stupid to put all that information out there with the only option to have it not appear involving logging in, especially when logging in will be throttled. Of course CCP wouldn't be that stupid, right?
Right?
Forget it, you're hopeless.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.05.13 05:08:00 -
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Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 13/05/2010 05:09:30 OpenID, oAuth for EveAPI, OpenSocial for calendar/killboard/mining/etc/etc/etc/etc
Such a fail job of a social network.
Originally by: CCP Karuck
FB is for real people, EVE Gate is a part of the EVE universe and for EVE pilots.
Ahhhh.... such a complete and total miss-understanding of Web2.0 and social networking.
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tla s'hpyt
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Posted - 2010.05.13 05:14:00 -
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Quote: ......view your employment history and broadcat log.
While I'm all for cat's of various breadth and length....
Anyway sounds very good I look forward to my mailbox not being filled with spam of when ops are.
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CCP Sisyphus
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Posted - 2010.05.13 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
The only way to opt-out is to rush onto eve gate after the patch, and do it for EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER - oh wait, only so many people can log on at the start. Great.
Not true.
You can change your standings right now. Just make sure that all your standings are below +5 on TQ now, and no contact information gets shared with anyone.
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mkmin
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Posted - 2010.05.13 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sisyphus
Originally by: chatgris
The only way to opt-out is to rush onto eve gate after the patch, and do it for EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER - oh wait, only so many people can log on at the start. Great.
Not true.
You can change your standings right now. Just make sure that all your standings are below +5 on TQ now, and no contact information gets shared with anyone.
Worst. Dev. Response. Ever. By any company ever. That's bad even for a government bureau. Seriously, WTF are you people thinking? Or not?
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