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Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.13 10:09:00 -
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Celeste Taylor wrote:There are a number of us who remember seeing Star Wars when it first came out in the theater  I also started with UO and went to Everquest when it was released. More recently I quit SWTOR and joined EVE. Guild Wars trilogy probably is my favorite, especially with the amazing art team and all the neat outfits you can get. The character creator is amazing. I also find a high percentage of the female avatars made by women are actually pretty while the ones made by male players tend to really be more extreme and often intimidating. I feel as though EVE gets so much negative press, but have found the community to be a nice mix of carebears and pirates. I also jumped into this game and went all out with the entire back issue collection of EON magazine, a years worth in game time, a bunch of other stuff from the official store, the ISK manual and maps, and several PLEX. Couple of months in now, and I still think EVE is great!
Ohh, I was in EQ at release as well, started on Nameless server and then moved to Tholuxe Paells Such good times. Where were you and what class did you play? I was a cleric. |

Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
55
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Posted - 2012.07.13 10:57:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Ohh, I was in EQ at release as well, started on Nameless server and then moved to Tholuxe Paells  Such good times. Where were you and what class did you play? I was a cleric.
Joined Lanys T'vyl when it went live. Started really getting involved when Kunark was released and got my Elven Paladin up to level 50 and became an officer in the High Guardians (was a fan of the then new and promising series Andromeda and the name reminded me of that show) who were a guild of paladins, clerics and other good folks. Played up until Luclin, then took a break from MMOs missing WoW and EVE's launch completely. |

Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
127
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Posted - 2012.07.13 10:59:00 -
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Welcome Shalestina
You're the kind of player this game really needs so I hope you stay for good.
As far as male/female ratios goes : I met a girl....once. We had an invigorating discussion about avatar clothing  I had a good time actually ( I would have never guessed ).
Well ok I also met two other girls ( one in Exploration channel and the second one was my CEO ). What Xercodo said ( 95/5 ratio ) is quite accurate. I have never experienced any kind of despicable behaviour in this area so it's not a problem around here ( if it happens then just bomb them ).
Don't hesitate to ask any questions on these forums. Most of the time we are just trolling each other but we can also be helpful ( see how much info you already got ).
Good luck and have fun. |

J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn
343
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Posted - 2012.07.13 11:13:00 -
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Tomcio FromFarAway wrote:Welcome Shalestina You're the kind of player this game really needs so I hope you stay for good. As far as male/female ratios goes : I met a girl....once. We had an invigorating discussion about avatar clothing  I had a good time actually ( I would have never guessed ). Well ok I also met two other girls ( one in Exploration channel and the second one was my CEO ). What Xercodo said ( 95/5 ratio ) is quite accurate. I have never experienced any kind of despicable behaviour in this area so it's not a problem around here ( if it happens then just bomb them  ). Don't hesitate to ask any questions on these forums. Most of the time we are just trolling each other but we can also be helpful ( see how much info you already got  ). Good luck and have fun.
If you want to see the other side of the forums (the trolling part):
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=258
No topic goes untrolled there. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |

Shalestina Sulistaine
The Elders Fleet
18
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Posted - 2012.07.13 11:22:00 -
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So many scrumptious links, all added to my Eve site - safe and sound. Thank you folks!
Abdiel Kavash: Hmm, not sure what the situation is in other MMOs but I think WoW has quite a few lady players. Probably not even close to a 50/50 ratio, but still I believe a noteworthy chunk all the same. This assumption is based on my observations as someone recruiting members over several years. (our recruitment goes through Facebook, so one can see the real gender). To be fair, I did notice a huge difference when we went to SWTOR though. 90% of the people applying to our guild there were male. I found that a bit strange as well because I've always remembered Star Wars as being "family entertainment", something that everyone in the family could enjoy regardless of gender. Ah well, I'm rambling on a bit :). In any case let's see if I manage to lure any of our female guildies into Eve. So far everyone who has shown interest has in fact been male :-|.
Thanks for clearing up the Trade goods thing. That certainly explains it! I shall sell off those dairy products with no regrets! *grins*
Excellent, excellent point about preferably selling over storing stuff. I hadn't considered it from that angle. I shall do just that!
In my younger years before I had kids, I'd probably agreed with you fully on the charm illusive information. I can certainly appreciate your point. Part of Eve's allure for me as well, is the fact that it's not an instant meal type of experience and that to truly master this game, you have to work hard and be smart about how you play it. I've never liked it when games were dumbed down and made easier ( I mean the whole point of playing a game is to meet a challenge and conquer, right?) but the flip-side is the reality of real life time restrictions. Being a single parent that works full time, the act of searching for game information easily turns into a frustrating task that loses much of it's allure. I guess it's about finding a sane balance in spending time doing the actual fun stuff versus mundane tasks.
Thanks for the info on how NPC purchases work. How to sell to an NPC was a huge mystery to me. I'll have to search those hubs out.
ShahFluffers: Thank you for the warning. It's really good to point this out to new players. I'm guessing that folks didn't have a need to go into that because they read the part about me actually finding that an attractive quality of the game in my top 5 reasons to like Eve ;-). Says me who has not yet gotten into a tight spot, you may want to ask me again once I've been annihilated by someone and lost my ship for the first time *chuckles*.
As for UO, it's actually the pre-trammel times I remember with the most warmth. Things just got boring after Trammel. Then again it could be that memories golden with age. I'm sure that back then I was fuming when stuff happened hehe.
Those were good "facts of eve life" to know and consider, thank you! |

Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
127
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Posted - 2012.07.13 11:27:00 -
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You're exaggerating. Only 9/10 thread are trolled there. Hey, that's not all of them |

Ursula Thrace
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
117
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Posted - 2012.07.13 12:30:00 -
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welcome to EVE Shalestina! i'm in my mid-40s (male). you'll find there are lots of us hanging around in this game. 
as another poster suggested, EVE University is a great place for newbies to learn the ropes. EVE can be extremely intimidating at first, especially if you've been on the theme-park MMO merry-go-round (been there, done that). but hang in there! you'll soon discover that this is simply the best game on the market.
if you'd like to dive in feet first into pvp, please consider looking up RvB. we're a very laid back community where you'll find two things in abundance: good times and good fights.
good luck with what ever route you decide to take. 
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Shalestina Sulistaine
The Elders Fleet
20
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Posted - 2012.07.13 14:27:00 -
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Xercodo: Oooh that reference card looks awesome, thank you! Right now most of it is jibberish to me of course, but I'm sure that before long I'll be depending on it to quickly check stuff.
Forest Archer: Thanks for the info and the friendly offer of help :-).
DJ FunkyBacon: Thank you for the welcome! Actually the fact that you commented here, created a wonderful little chain of events that made me very very happy. I saw from your profile that such a thing as Eve radio exists, googled and found it and tuned in last night. DJ Erroch was playing some trance songs at the time, and since I liked what I was hearing, I kept listening. Then it happened... As if heaven itself had opened up to me. A song started playing that I have been hunting for, high and low since 1999. A song I only remembered by melody and the visuals of it's video. I had been so obsessed by it that I'd actually registered to a few trance sites, asking people if they might guess which song it was. But alas, during all this time no-one has been able to help me. Thanks to you, I got my song back. Aaah! :-)
About characters mingling. I suppose for those who do not roleplay, mingling would seem pretty useless. But for roleplayers it would be wonderful of course. It will be interesting to see what the future holds.
Interesting to hear about the big screen content. Wow that sounds really nice! I'll have to sit and watch it some time! I never realized it was quite so sophisticated.
I am in fact on Twitter, but I hardly use it to post myself - instead watch it sometimes when there is a hot topic going on.
Oooohh thank you for the Ctrl F9 tip! All I knew about up till now was Ctrl + Tab which removes almost everything but not quite, but this is even better!! I'll update the info on my site. (I have a tip about it there)
Priss Eluveitie: Ah so that explains why targeting has been a bit of a hassle! I'll be sure to check and adjust the settings, thank you. And very valuable tip about auto pilot as well. I've not used auto pilot yet, but will set this regardless. BTW: Love your avatar image!
cratais: Yeah good information. I've been paranoid about hanging around too much anywhere to be honest after reading that sometimes people will be ganked by a team, one does the killing (and pays the consequences) and others loot.
Istan Mahwi: Thank you, I hope so too :-)!
gfldex: Heheh, you have a valid point *grins*.
Capra Tai: Thank you. Hmmm I wonder that the age demographics are of Eve...
Ssakaa: Thanks so much for that info. Interesting to know that regardless of how we play the Elders. Actually Shalestina just happens to be Sebiestor, so it would fit otherwise. However the guild/corp should be able to allow all races so I don't think we will link ourselves the Elder Fleet. In addition, our guild is RP in a rather light way. Basically we are a group of old and tired people who used to be more serious roleplayers back when we were younger and before we had kids. But these days we can't be too fussed. We're roleplayers at heart, but just too tired to do anything too intense, so it's left to mostly just staying IC if we bump into one another in game. Also I'm quite strict about refusing names that are clearly not suitable for a RP server.
What you said about this being more of a PvP game than a RPG is also true, perhaps I'm stressing too much about that. And a good point about prioritization as well. It'd be different if the Elders was something we just conjured, but it does indeed have history. |

Shalestina Sulistaine
The Elders Fleet
21
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Posted - 2012.07.13 15:14:00 -
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Bunnie Hop: Oh nice to see there are more of us about! :-) It's funny the psychological effect the avatars visual style has in this game. I feel like I fit in age wise just perfectly, where as in many other MMOs the avatars would look much younger and childish and I - as an older player - would feel sort of out of my element. But none of that here. Love the style of this game so much, right up my alley.
Everyone keeps recommending the University corp so much that I might just have to roll a new character for the very purpose of joining it :-).
Celeste Taylor: Oh nice to see another old UO player :). Intereasting note about the different ways men and women design their female characters. I'll have to make a note of that and see if I notice the difference :). This must go both ways though, 'cause I made a male character and boy, he looks evil and daunting as hell!
Glad to hear you're still enjoying the game and the honeymoon isn't over for you, yet at least. Sounds promising :-).
Celeste Lovette: Thanks for the tip, I'll be sure to do that :-)
Tomcio FromFarAway: Aww gosh, thank you for such kind words. Not quite sure what I said to deserve that but I hope I'll be able to live up to it and offer something positive to this community! I have to say that already now, I am endeared and charmed by this community. Had I posted that same post in a WoW forum for instance, half of the responses would have been like you see here, but the other half would have been downright hostile, if for no other reason than the fact that they can and will get away with it. And J'Poll, maybe I'll have to venture over to the trolling side just before going out on my first serious PvP adventure to work up some aggro hehe :).
Ursula Thrace: Thank you! Nice to hear that we older folks have a place here. Now all I need to do is convince my guildies to come over as well. I already posted the link to this thread, to show them what a lovely reception I got. After seeing this, how could they resist? Ah well, I'll let them get over their Secret World excitement first. Already now I've seen a couple drop away TSW due to performance issues. *rubs hands together, cackling to herself*
As for RvB, PvP intimidates me unless I know exactly what I'm doing, so I think I'll stick to more cowardly tasks like exploration for now until I start to get some game play skills. But I'll certainly keep RvB in mind when and if the time comes, thank you. :-).
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Lyric Lahnder
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
71
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Posted - 2012.07.13 15:51:00 -
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Couple things about gender in EVE. Only until recent history have we had full body avatars.
From my point of view I thought that this made eve more inviting to females. People will be judged by there efficiency, capability, and trustworthiness in this game. Not by much else. Skill and Trust are both commodities in this game and are in great demand. Most FC's and Alliance leaders dont care who you are if you can get kills and are reliable and hopefully aren't a spai.
There are more female avatars in game then male despite the population make up.
Check out the Voices from the Void podcast with Arydanika. The person who said you should join industry and might find more women... Sadly I think Arydanika might disagree with you there, she founded the Women of EVE channel and if im not mistaken most of them are pvper's.
Id say because of the CSM among other things women have had a pretty big impact on the development of this game with people like Mynxee and other female members of the CSM.(PS if you dont know the Council of Stellar Management is a dually elected board of players who advise CCP in game development)
Eve draws in a more diverse and more mature crowd because of its complexity. As Far as women go I've seen several trends:
One: If your in a much larger alliance you are much more likely to find them in leadership Positions.
Two: If your in a smaller alliance/corp you tend to wear female members like a badge of honor: It means your corp has the maturity to attract female members, and Female members will bring more female members into your corp so that means more pilots to get more work done. Either way a female member who stays in your corp long term is always a good thing. Diversity of views and another avenue for recruitment.
Three: Even in groups like Goonswarm and Test alliance who some people have described as being: "Imature, Racist epithet uttering, ogre's" Have plenty of female members. These members, were on the something awful forums, or are redditers so most of what goes on they either think is funny themselves or they just have really thick skin.
In new eden women are both welcome and should feel welcomed by almost all corp. Most established corps an alliances like real companies all ready have avenues in place to report things like harassment or unwanted attention to leadership, and considering the value of female members these transgressors are usually dealt with swiftly.
Noir. and Noir Academy are recruiting apply at www.noirmercs.comI Noir Academy: 60 days old must be able to fly at least one tech II frigate. I Noir. Recruits: 4:1 k/d ratio and can fly tech II cruisers. |

Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
328
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Posted - 2012.07.13 17:08:00 -
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Welcome, OP! This is a great game and you will definitely have lots of fun.  Bring your possibles. |

Rabit Lanky
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.13 17:19:00 -
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I feel like EVE is just a much more daunting game than most other MMOs. In addition, my experience with females and games is that they tend to poo-poo it until they get sucked in and with EVE you have to try/want to be sucked in from the beginning - unlike WoW where you log in and suddenly check the clock to realize you have spent 2 weeks playing.
Both my parents played WoW and SWTOR with me so they are at least open to gaming. I can't see my Mom enjoying EVE, though. It is all about what you are looking for in a game and, correct me if im wrong, but I get the impression most females get into games for instant fun/entertainment and for community - not for this hard-core nerd stuff. =) |

CanDor Kalel
East Lonetrek Trading Company In Umbra Mortis
0
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Posted - 2012.07.13 18:04:00 -
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Simply to answer your question, theres plenty of female players and about what you looted in staion click inventory in the side panel go to your ship the item should be there then click hold and drag to the panel that just says inventory then right click on the item go to repackage click it then right click it again and click sell if no one in the station wants it click advanced options click sell easy as pie |

Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
127
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Posted - 2012.07.13 18:14:00 -
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Shalestina Sulistaine wrote: Tomcio FromFarAway: Aww gosh, thank you for such kind words. Not quite sure what I said to deserve that but I hope I'll be able to live up to it and offer something positive to this community! I have to say that already now, I am endeared and charmed by this community. Had I posted that same post in a WoW forum for instance, half of the responses would have been like you see here, but the other half would have been downright hostile, if for no other reason than the fact that they can and will get away with it. And J'Poll, maybe I'll have to venture over to the trolling side just before going out on my first serious PvP adventure to work up some aggro hehe :).
Kind? Will have to work on that then.
How's that for starters :
GTFO clueless noob, get back to your parents basement and STFU, better yet just biomass yourself and relieve us of your presence. (might even add some colourful adjectives here and there )
Good enough?
Seriously though, it's about your positive attitude, maturity and obvious capability for carrying on a good conversation. We can never have enough of those qualities.
As far as trolling goes - you know, the internetz and all that, happens everywhere ( we have some really good trolls here though, lots of lols can be had when they are around ).
Oh and don't you worry about getting *some* hostility in the future  This is EvE, conflict is inevitable and ship losses are to be expected.
Just remember that most of the good content here is provided by other players ( much more than in other MMOs ). Solo content is mostly boring and grindy and the best fun you can have ONLY with other people ( no matter which activity will you choose ).
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Sugar Kyle
The humbleless Crew Capital Punishment.
65
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Posted - 2012.07.13 19:39:00 -
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We girls are around. I've met 3 of them so far. You make number 4. If I count myself its up to 5. Only 2 I've heard over voice coms as actually female.
Welcome to the game, its fun. It can be adult. It can be immature. New Citizens Q&A is a bit gentler. Beware of General Discussion.
:P |

Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
1197
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Posted - 2012.07.13 20:15:00 -
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Sugar Kyle wrote:We girls are around. I've met 3 of them so far. You make number 4. If I count myself its up to 5. Only 2 I've heard over voice coms as actually female.
Welcome to the game, its fun. It can be adult. It can be immature. New Citizens Q&A is a bit gentler. Beware of General Discussion.
:P
NCQ&A is like the classroom, structured but can have a few silly moments.
GD is like the cafeteria, silly-ness increase.
CAOD is the playground, they might as well be going nuts with anarchy.
Welcome to the first days of school. The Drake is a Lie |

J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn
346
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Posted - 2012.07.13 21:37:00 -
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Tomcio FromFarAway wrote: Seriously though, it's about your positive attitude, maturity and obvious capability for carrying on a good conversation. We can never have enough of those qualities.
This....
Positive posts, genuine questions and mature stories get positive feedback from the community.
Come to the forums to rant on EVE and say how broken it is cause you made a mistake (99%of the time it was you making a mistake, not EVE that is broken) will likely get negative responses.
So far (and I watch NCQ&A very often - daily) I'm impressed by the responses I see on these forums. Even for questions that are asked over and over.
Keep up the good work EVE community, more players in EVE means more people to interact with. It's a win-win situation. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |

malaire
458
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Posted - 2012.07.14 08:13:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Shalestina Sulistaine wrote: So basically there is absolutely nothing about the game that is pushing possible female players away. My guess is that they just haven't discovered it yet, hah! Now if only that Summerfest text would have been "families enjoying spas instead of wives" :-).
That 5%-number might have changed a little the last few years. You have to poke CCP Diagoras if you want a update on that. CCP publishes some subscriber stats every year after CSM elections, latest here: http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28529
"Female users seem less inclined to vote than male users, with 3.51% of voters being female despite making up 5.11% of the total EVE user base."
New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |

malaire
458
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Posted - 2012.07.14 08:34:00 -
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I just checked your blog.
> bounty system Unfortunately that is completely broken. Player can just use alt to pod himself (or ask friend to do it) and get the bounty. Many players with high bounties have likely put that on themselves for e.g. RP purposes.
> "you have no option to walk around inside the cabin or see your character at the ships command" You aren't actually in a cabin, but in a pod filled with "pod goo" and with direct control of your ship through your brain. So according to lore there isn't really anything worthwhile to see when inside ship.
btw, if you like youtube videos and lore, definitely check this old introduction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T84nrp08MWo
New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |

Plaude Pollard
Crimson Cartel
56
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Posted - 2012.07.14 08:59:00 -
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Shalestina Sulistaine wrote:Now then, as a new player I have a few questions: a) what is the ratio of male vs female players in Eve? When I was watching the Summerfest video , the way the text was formed ("Let your wives or friends enjoy the city's spa"), it felt like they were only catering to male players. I've come to this game assuming Eve is completely neutral on which gender it wants playing the game, I hope I am not wrong :-). b) Does Eve have an item database similar to Wowhead.com for WoW? Of course looking at the attributes in info gives something, but I'm talking about stuff like a) Seeing where things can be found (where does a particular ore spawn, what NPCs drop what loot) b) whether an item is an ingredient for something. For instance, I looted "Dairy Products" and now I have no idea what to do with it. Welcome to EVE.
I have no actual idea about the male-to-female ratio in EVE, since it isn't written anywhere easily visible. Only thing I know is that there are more male players (as with any major MMO) than female players.
As for an Item Database, yes, EVE does have an Item Database, though it doesn't show what enemies drop the various modules and where the ores can be found (there's a couple of good charts for the ore-part, but that's it. Just Google "EVE Ore Chart" and several ones will come up). The EVElopedia Item Database has a rather comprehensible list of all Blueprints and their requirements, so you can easily look up what you need to build stuff. Another better, although harder to navigate, Item Database would be http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/default.php. It's more thorough, since it exports the data directly from the EVE API, unlike EVElopedia (why CCP doesn't just export API-data on their own Item Database is beyond me). If you're just interested in knowing what Ores and Ices are available in a given system, dotlan is your friend.
So far, though, I haven't seen any use for items such as "Dairy Products". Most of the time, they're not even worth picking up, because they can't be sold very well. |

Shalestina Sulistaine
The Elders Fleet
30
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Posted - 2012.07.15 05:37:00 -
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Lyric Lahnder: Very interesting to read about the roles and perceptions of females in Eve. Wow, it seems like ladies have it good in this game! I could go into ponderings of the psychological reasons for that, but another time and another place.
I have indeed noticed a huge difference in how chat channels are dealt with in Eve compared to other MMOs - where public chats go completely unmonitored and you'll see trolls having a field day. In Eve however, I've seen the "blue texted" monitors keeping things tidy and clean many times already on the rookie channel. This is most definitely one of the top 10 reasons to like Eve and I only wish more female players knew about this. I'm sure it would make the game much more attractive. I think I need to do a "First impressions part II" blog post now that I've been here over a week and so many new things have opened up.
Gaellia Bonaventure: Thank you very much!
Rabit Lanky: Not quite sure what you meant about females poo pooing games at first until they get sucked in. I haven't noticed such a thing myself, then again most of my female friends are gamers anyhow, so I wouldn't - would I. This is just a wild guess, but could it possibly be that when you have a scenario of boy and girl being in a relationship and then the boy tryies to get his girl excited about new games, the girl reacts in the defensive outwardly although inwardly she may be just as interested but wants to figure things out in her own pace and time. I did read somewhere that females and males approach games differently. Men tend to quickly and fearlessly "press every button and see what it does", while girls want to take it slow and easy, first read the manual and make sure they're doing things right from the get go. Could it merely be a conflict of playing styles? Females seemingly rejecting a game because they don't want to be rushed into it? *shrugs*
About Eve being daunting, this is most certainly true. It is daunting and a lot to take in. But this is true for both genders. Our guild has over 200 members, around 60% male and 40% female. After I started bombarding our guild FB group with stuff about Eve, around 10 of those people showed interest. All of them male. However I think I could easily say that if one were to name the single person who has felt the most obsessed and passionate about the game from day one, that would hands down be me, even though I am a girl I just embraced the game immediately, where as some of those 10 have sort of waned off and I haven't heard them talking about it anymore.
Only one has so far joined our "guild" on this side even though I told them "Listen guys, the best experience you can get out of Eve is by joining a properly founded, experienced corporation. So feel free to use our corp as a mere stepping stone to that. Hang out for the first days gaining your bearings, then feel free to spread your wings". See, I will never have the time or resources to make our corp into anything more than a chat room so I'm not expecting our guildies to restrict their game play experience to just that. The point being here, is that even with the "freedom" I already gave them beforehand, one would think that any of those who started playing would have come to join us for their first days and learn the ropes for a while. But only one has. This leads me to believe that the game was just too much for the other 9. Then again to be fair - most of the people in our guild have families with young kids etc so their time and attention span is restricted. I on the other hand have more time with 2 older sons, one whom has already flown from the nest and the other being 14 and not needing the same kind of fussing that a 3 year old would.
You do have a valid point about females tending to feel more attracted to instant fun and community. You know, it could also be more about "gamer maturity" than gender. There are only so many "instant fun" games you can play before you get bored and start to yearn for something more demanding. I've played games since I was little, but for a lot of ladies - it's only recently that they've found games thanks to social games and the change in how console gaming is being portrayed (Wii etc). So who knows, maybe they will be ripe for something like Eve in 10 years time?
CanDor Kalel: Thanks for the advice, but I'm not quite sure what you're referring to. Selling to NPCs?
Tomcio FromFarAway: Hehe, oh yes I'm sure the ugly side of the community is around here somewhere :). God knows I've seen enough of it in other games to know it exists. Trolling doesn't get to me these days anymore. It's all about attitude, I think Ray William Johnson is the perfect example of how to take punches and outsmart 'em :) I think anyone who gets overly sensitive from trolls should watch and learn. Do be warned though, his content can be pretty offensive sometimes.
Sugar Kyle: I'm loving the unique system here so far. "Feel free to steal, swindle, gank, kill - but you'd better be behaved in chat or else!" Thanks for the warning though :-)
Xercodo: Thanks for the "manual" to the various chat rooms, I'll know exactly where to go to if I'm in the mood for a little troll abuse hah!
J'Poll: About the questions that get asked over and over, amen to that! Once in a while I'll sip on a cup of coffee and sit back watching the rookie channel. Man.... the PATIENCE those advisors have. My hat goes off to them! I could never do it.
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Shalestina Sulistaine
The Elders Fleet
30
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Posted - 2012.07.15 05:39:00 -
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malaire: Aaahh a shame to hear that the bounty system doesn't really work. Still, I think a broken bounty system is better than none.
Yeah I later heard about the goo pod thingie. You know what would be super cool? If we could see what it looks like in there with our character suspended in goo, perhaps in the form of a "monitor system" with camera view of how your character is faring inside their pod. All green and luminescent. With stats on heart beat, oxygen levels etc etc. It could be a button on the ship control donught. Not needed, but a "nice to have" feature. I wonder if anyone has suggested that in the Features & Ideas Discussion board? I think I will if it hasn't already been talked about.
Thanks so much for the link to the original story. It was wonderful and really filled in the story for me, giving my character more purpose in this world.
Plaude Pollard: Thanks for the explanation on the differences between the databases. Good to know. |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1621
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Posted - 2012.07.15 05:50:00 -
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Shalestina Sulistaine wrote:a) what is the ratio of male vs female players in Eve? When I was watching the Summerfest video , the way the text was formed ("Let your wives or friends enjoy the city's spa"), it felt like they were only catering to male players. I've come to this game assuming Eve is completely neutral on which gender it wants playing the game, I hope I am not wrong :-).
Ah, and then you'll discover Xenuria, the GLBTI community and the flexible definition of gender versus sex, and whether "husband" and "wife" are genetic or social roles :)
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Shalestina Sulistaine
The Elders Fleet
30
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Posted - 2012.07.15 05:59:00 -
[54] - Quote
By the way, does anyone know of any Eve fan site gallery that collects awesome character profile pictures? Seeing some of these just amazes me and if something like that has not already been done, I would like to do it. |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1621
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Posted - 2012.07.15 06:03:00 -
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I've just had a read of your blog: thanks for writing that up!
I wonder if you've seen the "Day 0 advice for new players" and would you consider adding a link to it at the end of your article?
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Shalestina Sulistaine
The Elders Fleet
30
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Posted - 2012.07.15 06:09:00 -
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Mara Rinn: Awesome stuff - and just added it :-) |

MegabitOne
The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.07.15 07:38:00 -
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It surprises me that no one mentioned the top three rules in Eve Online:
1. Never, ever, fly a ship you cannot afford to loose 2. You will die... a lot. 3. Reread rule 1
This said, kudos for starting one of the most decent threads I've seen in a long time! I visited your blog - love the background by the way - and read that too. You're not the only one having had that much fun with the character creator and spent hours with it . Very nice Eve website too.
I also very much like the work of Andrea Fryer . If they ever need another amazing graphics artist at CCP's, please apply! Love the 'beautifying' images on your website. |

malaire
459
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Posted - 2012.07.15 07:41:00 -
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Shalestina Sulistaine wrote:By the way, does anyone know of any Eve fan site gallery that collects awesome character profile pictures? Seeing some of these just amazes me and if something like that has not already been done, I would like to do it. I know of http://eveportraits.com/ which hosts portrait competition (with entry fee and some prices). It has gallery of many portraits.
Also there are occasionally portrait threads on general discussion (most hot, most awful, unique, etc..)
New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |

Baneken
Fistful of Finns Ewoks
138
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Posted - 2012.07.15 11:51:00 -
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The usual issue with EvE and women is the same old women vs. scifi for obvious reasons scifi has always attracted more males then females and that isn't likely to change.
EvE is vast and some say confusing but once you get past the basics you can start to explore more on things on your own but for starters do the tutorials and head to Arnon for Sister Alitura, if you haven't done that already.
As for dairy products and such they can make you a lot of money by bulk sales and by bulk I mean a lot. Idea is very simple; if you buy 200k units of dairy products and manage to sell those in other system for +1 isk per item you just made 200k isk, simple yes ? Boring ? Oh yes very much so but some people are into that kind of thing.
of c. there are taxes and everything that influences your profits but the general principle is easy, trading player made good is the same deal but carriers a hefty amount of risk because of pirates that lurk in the space lanes (player pirates not NPC mind you !). |

Scien Inkunen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2012.07.15 12:51:00 -
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Shalestina Sulistaine wrote:Friendly greetings! .........
For instance, I looted "Dairy Products" and now I have no idea what to do with it.
Mama! Where have you been!?!? Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life ! |
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