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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.05.17 21:12:00 -
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Concerning Capsuleers and Sansha's Nation
The Star Fraction Owner Captains' Council has monitored with concern the recent events involving Sansha's Nation across the New Eden cluster. The mass 'harvesting' of millions of individuals by Nation forces, together with the disturbing evidence of powerful technologies at the disposal of these forces, as reflected in the apparent precision manipulation of wormholes and rapid training and integration of new capsuleers, are evidently the most immediate issues of concern.
Yet the deeply ambiguous role of CONCORD in these events, together with the actions of some empire navies, is also of considerable concern. Some have tried to suggest CONCORD is merely fulfilling its charter and no more. This does violence to the history of CONCORD's reaction to previous serious threats to the security of the core of the cluster. There is more to the haphazard and lackadaisical response of CONCORD than Nation infiltration in our judgement.
Star Fraction Intelligence has been analysing signals traffic across the spectrum of capsuleer, empire and factional communications channels, together with signals captures from Nation forces. Despite the determination of some to deny information to us on tawdry and petty grounds, others have shared intelligence and relevant material with us. Initial analysis indicates a subtle but definite attempts to introduce particular memetic contagions into the discourse concerning the fight against the Nation threat. These memetic strains originate from multiple sources and some appear in conflict with one another. The Star Fraction considers both CONCORD and Sansha's Nation to be candidate beneficiaries of certain of these memetic strains. Others may be the result of as yet unidentified third-parties seeking to use events for their own purposes.
The preliminary view of the Star Fraction is that capsuleers must be very wary of siren calls to view the Sansha's Nation incursions as the sole issue to be addressed above all others, no matter the cost. Attempts to set up a rigid accord or organisational platform through which all counter-Nation activities are co-ordinated to the exclusion of other efforts should be resisted. It is clear that statists of every feather and hue are flocking together. Radicals and libertarians are being enticed into deals with the devil and some are showing signs of falling for it.
Let the statist centralisers and platformists have their front against the Nation. If their efforts are honest, well and good. Alas, some efforts may not be so honest and long-respected neutralities trampled on under the cover of the present emergency. Emergency it may be but there is no reason to let it overrule all considerations or shackle individual conscience.
Important questions must not be overlooked and freedom fighters must ask themselves if certain parties can be trusted in the counter-Nation effort. The disgraceful actions of the Amarr Empire's Imperial Navy, and the approval for those actions in some quarters, should not be ignored for the sake of fighting a common foe, however dastardly that foe may be.
We do not preach against co-operation. To the contrary. But we do say that independence of action should not be abandoned and that principles should not be torn up in a rush to beat the drums against technological tyranny in company with those who undoubtedly favour more traditional forms of tyranny.
Given our belief that independent action is essential, the Star Fraction now gives formal 24-hour notice of hostile standings and sanctioned warfare against the following capsuleer organisations:
- Naqam [NQM]
- True Slave Foundation [TS-F]
Those who actively support tyranny, of any kind, must and will be opposed.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Communications Portal |
Eran Mintor
Minmatar
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2010.05.17 21:17:00 -
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Why isn't Revan on that list? Or do I even have to ask...
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.05.17 21:22:00 -
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Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 17/05/2010 21:25:32
Our standings and war declarations in this matter concern organisations that as a whole are actively supporting the purposes of Sansha's Nation.
The issue of given individuals who are members of independent corporations or alliances that do not as a whole actively support the purposes of Sansha's Nation do not concern us. That is properly an internal matter for the corporation or alliance in question.
If and when particular independent corporations or alliances actually take a policy position we will consider the issues that arise.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Communications Portal |
Drake Arson
Minmatar
Redicuously Awesome Winged Reptiles
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Posted - 2010.05.17 23:39:00 -
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There is nothing you or any lapdogs can do to stop the Nation.
Strength in Unity. |
Invelious
Amarr
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2010.05.17 23:44:00 -
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 Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 17/05/2010 21:25:32
Our standings and war declarations in this matter concern organisations that as a whole are actively supporting the purposes of Sansha's Nation.
The issue of given individuals who are members of independent corporations or alliances that do not as a whole actively support the purposes of Sansha's Nation do not concern us.
Some capsuleers can fund and provide support on a individual level equal to that of a corperation or alliance, would'nt that put them in a position to be equally targeted as a enemy? Would it not be logical to just warn what ever neutral or independant corp or alliance that harbors them that you will engage in hostile action towards their member specifically for that stance that your organisation stands against?
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John Revenent
Caldari
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2010.05.18 00:22:00 -
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Revan's loyalties lie with a organisation that is known to have ties and positive standings with the Sansha, and on several occasions openly admited to it. You call us Slaver supporters hah!
Either you are being played by the Sansha puppet master or trying to play the good people of New Eden. Probably both as of information as of late.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
The Archaeus of Blood
The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 00:26:00 -
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Flattered by all the attention.
But not as half as explosive yet to match the heat that I enjoy. Carry on, I shall indulge a word or two on the subject when it gets at least less pale .
Revan Neferis
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik
Watch Neferis Resort VII: Auctoramentum Gladiatorum |
Fridarey
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.05.18 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: John Revenent
You call us Slaver supporters hah!
Are you claiming now you didn't work for the CVA slavers as "enforcers" of their red list?
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.05.18 01:53:00 -
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The Sansha Nation represent the biggest threat to personal sovereignty in the cluster. The Star Fraction, as ever, will stand opposed to such threats. We, so far have done our best to accommodate and assist others in the battle against this threat as a symbol of how serious we take these incursions and how important the destruction of our mutual enemy is. We have provided the entire cluster with as much intel as we can provide and have resisted the urge to take vengeance for past wrongs on those who fight to destroy the Sansha. Still we are met by the suspicion of some who would dismiss our assistance because of their own selfish demands. We are told that because of our executor's personal relationship we are not to be trusted.
No more will we tolerate this.
We will destroy the Sansha as we can. We will find our own path against the egotistical demands of those who see their petty grievances are more important that this threat. With or without a consensus we fight for we are not them. We do not need to be one. We are the Freecaptains of the Star Fraction and we will fight to the bitter end to preserve our individual sovereignty no matter the cost to us.
The Nation will fall.
Heartstone.
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Invelious
Amarr
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2010.05.18 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Heartstone
The Sansha Nation represent the biggest threat to personal sovereignty in the cluster. The Star Fraction, as ever, will stand opposed to such threats. We, so far have done our best to accommodate and assist others in the battle against this threat as a symbol of how serious we take these incursions and how important the destruction of our mutual enemy is.
Is it not the goal of the Star Fraction to disrupt and bring down this same sovereignty that is under attack? Seems like someone is doing what you cant, stealing your thunder maybe, you trying to prevent that from happening? If this was happening in Providence before the AAA war, or even durning, or prehaps just the Amarr Empire was under this attack and no other, where would SF truly stand?
Originally by: Heartstone
We have provided the entire cluster with as much intel as we can provide and have resisted the urge to take vengeance for past wrongs on those who fight to destroy the Sansha. Still we are met by the suspicion of some who would dismiss our assistance because of their own selfish demands. We are told that because of our executor's personal relationship we are not to be trusted.
Of course your intel will be questioned, and your natural enemies suspicious of you. You bed with some of the most notorious organisations in New Eden, and most, if not all them, enemies of your enemies also. There is zero reason to trust you people.
Originally by: Heartstone
With or without a consensus we fight for we are not them. We do not need to be one. We are the Freecaptains of the Star Fraction and we will fight to the bitter end to preserve our individual sovereignty no matter the cost to us.
You dont need to be one, yet seek equality amongst enemies in order to stop this threat. "We are the Freecaptains of the Star Fraction", "We are the Nation of The True Power".
To preserve your individual sovereignty? There is no sovereignty in anarchy.
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Sinti Vailatti
Epitoth Fleet Yards
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Posted - 2010.05.18 03:37:00 -
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Cosmo, it's nothing personal. You seems like you got a good Amarrian head on your shoulders. Think like one for a moment will ya?
Even if people wanted to trust you guys, we CAN'T. You have done nothing in the past year to indicate that you want to do anything that isn't in your own self-interest and now that you see something that scares you, you want to join our bandwagon?
You trust Jade. Fine. We can't gamble the lives of our citizens on Jade. The girl can't keep her legs shut while around Revan, how are we supposed to believe she'll keep her mouth shut? She's a security risk and you know it.
You sewed the seeds of mistrust when your pilots laughed at Republic pilots and used them for cannon-fodder; when you used Minmatar slaves as huiman shields in Kamela and when you insta-popped Johnny boy two weeks ago.
Any government official who even thought of trusting you would be taken out and shot. And the guys with the bullets would be right.
Lose the blood cultist fan club and start a policy of truth and maybe, juist maybe WE'LL save YOu from the big, bad Sansha.
Until then, reap the whirlwind Cosmo.
Sinti
Serving the Dark Amarr |
Koronakesh
Amarr
DAEDALUS X
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.05.18 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sinti Vailatti
You have done nothing in the past year to indicate that you want to do anything that isn't in your own self-interest and now that you see something that scares you, you want to join our bandwagon?
And here I thought the whole announcement was about how we were NOT joining anyone's bandwagon and are going to be fighting Nation OUR OWN way. Some people...
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Havohej
Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
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Posted - 2010.05.18 03:51:00 -
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Edited by: Havohej on 18/05/2010 03:51:37
Originally by: Sinti Vailatti
You sewed the seeds of mistrust when your pilots laughed at Republic pilots and used them for cannon-fodder; when you used Minmatar slaves as huiman shields in Kamela
No love lost between us and the Fraction, but these things didn't happen. I was a part of the Star Fraction for a few months of their campaign against the 24IC - laughing at the TLF and its member corporations was not a part of our daily routine. We put ourselves at risk for their benefit more often than we asked them to come and assist; more often than not when the TLF assisted the Star Fraction it was because TLF scouts recognized a situation brewing and TLF FCs asked how they could help. In that, the Fraction is honest.
The slaves that were at that one Space and Freedom battle were there incidentally and, to my knowledge, the CVA and their lapdogs were entirely unaware of their presence until their successful evacutation was announced.
If you're going to call -SF- out on dishonesty and hypocrisy, use one of the many, many actual true examples.
Not that any criticism would matter coming from Ammatar scum like you.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.05.18 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej
If you're going to call -SF- out on dishonesty and hypocrisy, use one of the many, many actual true examples.
I'm pretty sure there are not any true examples. Certainly nobody has ever made a credible claim on galnet.
Originally by: Havohej
Not that any criticism would matter coming from Ammatar scum like you.
On that we can at least agree.
Buy Justice!
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Havohej
Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
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Posted - 2010.05.18 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Havohej
If you're going to call -SF- out on dishonesty and hypocrisy, use one of the many, many actual true examples.
I'm pretty sure there are not any true examples. Certainly nobody has ever made a credible claim on galnet.
Of course you are.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.05.18 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej
Of course you are.
As should anyone with a mind and eyes to see and understand the lying and deceit of Amarrian nationalists and their creatures on galnet thesedays.
Buy Justice!
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lucifers widow
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2010.05.18 06:04:00 -
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Silence dog.
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Graelyn
Amarr
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2010.05.18 06:10:00 -
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Reputation. It's important, it turns out.
Enjoy yours, SF.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Havohej
If you're going to call -SF- out on dishonesty and hypocrisy, use one of the many, many actual true examples.
I'm pretty sure there are not any true examples. Certainly nobody has ever made a credible claim on galnet.
Oh Jasmine, let me refresh your memory.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Stenny Macduff
Amarr
Virtus Ex Fides
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Posted - 2010.05.18 08:57:00 -
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Your words ring true, up to a point. Nation is a threat to all, but the threat is not so grave that we should forget our primary goals and allegiances.
Personally, I will continue to defend the Empire. Nation is just one more aggressor on the list, they are no different from the Matari beast. Both will be extinguished in time. I will render no assistance to the Gallente or their Matari lapdogs in their defence against Nation incursions. Any Gallente or Matari loyalist capsuleer who sets foot in empire space even under the pretense of helping is an enemy interloper who must be driven off.
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Malakai Draevyn
Caldari
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 09:29:00 -
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Edited by: Malakai Draevyn on 18/05/2010 09:31:18
Originally by: Stenny Macduff
Any Gallente or Matari loyalist capsuleer who sets foot in empire space even under the pretense of helping is an enemy interloper who must be driven off.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
- The Scriptures, Amarr Askura 10:3
I suppose it's all a matter of defining who the greater enemy is, at any point in time.
There is truth in the saying "The enemy of my enemy is my friend.... for now." The Gallente and Matari loyalists may threaten your duty to protect the Amarrian State, but Sansha's Nation threaten your duty to protect the Human Race in New Eden.
After all - who makes your ships ? Who makes your ammunition, your drones, supplies you with fresh pod-goo every time you dock ?
Deal with the Sansha, then deal go back to the day-to-day business of dealing with the Gallente and Matari forces.
*sighs heavily, muttering something about 'bloody stubborn minded Amarrian loyalists' and slams his hand down on the terminal*...
<Connection Broken.... Connection Broken....>
..:: MD ::..
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Merdaneth
Amarr
Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
The issue of given individuals who are members of independent corporations or alliances that do not as a whole actively support the purposes of Sansha's Nation do not concern us. That is properly an internal matter for the corporation or alliance in question.
Star Fraction always held an organization responsible for all the actions of its members, and thus held any individual in an organization responsible for all the actions of other individuals in an organization.
Concerning your reference to 'internal matters', if I remember the Star Fraction line, if an organization did not remove said individuals, Star Fraction considered the organization to actively supporting the actions of said individuals and thus responsible as a whole.
Has this changed?
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The Illusion of Freedom | The Truth about Slavery |
Merdaneth
Amarr
Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Heartstone
We are told that because of our executor's personal relationship we are not to be trusted.
No more will we tolerate this.
Mr. Hearstone, if you start an intimate romantic relationship with Sansha unit IzzyChan, and start posting that you consider your love to IzzyChan more powerful than any other bond in the universe, then yes, you *will* get distrusted.
That is not odd.
If you are also the overbearing and (seemingly) tyrannical CEO of an organization, members of that organization will get distrusted.
That is not odd.
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The Illusion of Freedom | The Truth about Slavery |
Merdaneth
Amarr
Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 10:58:00 -
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All I what to know is if I can count on Star Fraction pilots to assist in destroying Sansha incursions in the Amarr Empire. Other issues are of less import. How Star Fraction pilots choose to cooperate is largely immaterial to me, as long as I see them destroying Sansha invaders I'm perfectly willing to tolerate their presence and happy to receive their aid.
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The Illusion of Freedom | The Truth about Slavery |
Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.05.18 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn
Reputation. It's important, it turns out.
Enjoy yours, SF.
You seem to be labouring under the delusion that we care about what you think or ask any permission of worthless nationalist posturers before taking action in this matter. We don't, we haven't, we act as we see fit. If you enter our gunsights and its practical to shoot you will be killed alongside the Nation sympathizers targetted in this declaration. Our reputation has never been better amongst the ranks of those that matter Graelyn, and you are not among them.
Originally by: Merdaneth
All I what to know is if I can count on Star Fraction pilots to assist in destroying Sansha incursions in the Amarr Empire ... I'm perfectly willing to tolerate their presence and happy to receive their aid.
Your toleration is not required, permission is not sought, and your happiness irrelevant to our operations. You remain a -10 target of the Star Fraction and will be engaged whenever it is practical for us to do so.
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Merdaneth
Amarr
Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Your toleration is not required, permission is not sought, and your happiness irrelevant to our operations. You remain a -10 target of the Star Fraction and will be engaged whenever it is practical for us to do so.
Again I reaffirm Star Fraction pilots are not considered to have a collective KOS status to me. Also, any SF pilot that flies in the Amarr Empire to fight the recent Sansha incursion will *not* be shot at by me, and that includes even you ms. Constantine. I might want to shoot you, but sometimes individual sacrifices are needed for the greater good and for what one believes in.
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The Illusion of Freedom | The Truth about Slavery |
The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.05.18 19:04:00 -
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I fear on a number of points we have been misunderstood by various people. This may well be because our points were made less clearly than they could have been. It is as well to assume this on the first occasion of misunderstanding, so I will make the basic points again.
First, let us deal with much the least important issue: the constant confusion of the personal with the political, made all the worse with a confusion of personal views with political positions and activity.
The Star Fraction does not form its views about people, or the organisations they belong to, on the basis of the personal relationships of individuals with other individuals. That kind of thing can be left to religious and social authoritarians. Indeed, if you see someone trying to draw conclusions as to the political and ethical positions of an individual, or their comrades, on the basis of who that individual happens to love then you can be sure that you are seeing an authoritarian mindset at work.
It is no mystery to us that the Amarr priesthood, their paramilitary lackies and race traitor lickspittles indulge in this type of odious denial of an essential personal freedom: the freedom to love. After all, their's is a creed of hatred, self-loathing in fact, which must needs make everyone else an object of hate and self-loathing in order to justify their place in their perverted world-view.
It is rather sad when we see others, who really should know better, indulging in the logic of prudish and freedom-hating political mud-slinging.
Second, the policy of the Star Fraction when it comes to designating hostiles is quite clear. We designate organisations hostile for the actions of that organisation, not for the personal views of individuals in those organisations. Pilots in space take actions in the name of their organisation and those the organisation must account for, or if the actions are truly those of an individual renegade, repudiate. Individuals are, however, entitled to their personal views and to conduct the necessary debates. We may comment on such views, we may even regard the presence of such views among an organisation's membership as indicative of the extent to which it can be regarded reliable, but we do not view it in itself as a reason to designate an organisation hostile.
Hostile action against us or active support for political foes are what we look for in organisations that may be candidates for determining hostility. But again, there is another aspect that is commonly distorted. Our foes seem to think we have to automatically apply some rote formula to everyone and everything to determine its hostility and must set hostile all those that qualify on this formula. That is simply not so. We retain discretion in these matters. An entity may take actions that justify setting it hostile but it may be that it is better not to set it hostile and to take other steps. Violence is not always the answer. Some people can be reasoned with and, if they can be reasoned with, why should we use force just because our enemies wish it?
Of course, our foes don't like this because it spoils the impression they like to give that we are 'obsessed with violence'.
Leaving aside those more general issues, which really are not the topic of this thread, and have been discussed elsewhere many times, I will now turn to the issues that concern capsuleer society at large most immediately. The issues of the day and those that touch on or are concerned with the topic herein.
One of these issues concerns the limits of co-operation and, in an ironic way, it is not actually that disturbing to me that certain foes do not wish to co-operate with the Star Fraction even in this matter. I described their stated reasons as tawdry and so they are, because it is the disreputable confusion of personal and political discussed above that they rely on. I leave that to one side, however, and will consider it merely under the heading 'non-co-operation with enemies'.
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The Star Fraction Communications Portal |
The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.05.18 19:15:00 -
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Non-co-operation with enemies seems to be the preference of those committed to authoritarian statism and imperialist domination. Various of the militia forces have been seen shooting at their foes while those foes were in the midst of counter-Nation struggles. We have seen the Imperial Navy order its militia allies to attack Minmatar fighters who, only moments before, had been fighting against Nation forces in defence of a planet within the purview of the Amarr Empire. So it isn't a surprise to see non-co-operation with enemies preached by those who are imperialist or nationalist paramilitaries of one kind or another.
What is more surprising is that some apparently freedom-minded, liberatarian or radical pilots are willing to submit to some kind of regulated co-operation with the very forces that would tyrannize them if they could. The very forces, indeed, who are quite willing to stab their erstwhile counter-Nation comrades in the back if so ordered by their masters.
Let us make no bones about it. The Amarr Empire and its paramilitaries cannot be trusted in this affair. They have shown their colours quite clearly and people should not be distracted by calls of 'Emergency!' After all, the Amarr Empire is only honest in this struggle against the Sansha's Nation threat where it concerns the defence of Amarr planets and domains. When those are threatened, to be sure the Amarr Empire is alarmed and considers it a life and death struggle, as well they might.
However, all who know the Empire for true know that their attitude to the Nation incursions into, for example, the Minmatar Republic is more in the nature of a property dispute with the Nation than a true concern to defeat those who would kidnap and torment fellow human beings. The Amarr Empire views the abducted of the Republic as its property and sees the Nation as doing no more, really, than stealing their property. Who really doubts that the Empire, if it could, would not be there in the Nation's place abducting Minmatar by the thousands?
Moreover, at bottom the Amarr Empire has the same attitude when it comes to the Caldari State and the Gallente Federation. They can't help it. They're in thrall to a perverse and inhuman religion just as much as the True Slaves are in thrall to an inhuman and perverse science. The Amarr Empire wants to save you, Caldari and Gallente, but it only wants to save you from the Sansha's Nation processing halls so that in the future it may press you into its slave barques and carry you off.
Indeed, how different, really, is enslavement by the Amarr to enslavement by Sansha's Nation? The Amarr Empire uses implants, drugs, micro-controllers, glaive collars, violence of every kind to get and maintain its slaves. The Nation uses various technologies and violence to get its legions. The ideology underpinning these twin slave regimes may differ, the details of the enslavement and purposes to which the slaves are put may differ, but the essential, core, inescapable truth of slavery remains the same with each: an individual is rendered a non-individual, made an object, murdered. Slowly murdered, to be sure, but in the end how much worse than simple murder that is.
We can trust true Minmatar in this matter of the struggle against the Nation because they know what slavery really is. We can trust some Caldari loyalists because they as a people have a horror of slavery, and freedom, even while repressed by their dictator, is an aspiration among them. We can even trust some Gallente nationalists û who talk about freedom a lot but who rarely do anything but inspect, direct, number, regulate, preach at, control, check, censure and tax anyone in sight û because their horror of slavery is essentially an instinctive function of their own selfishness. Amarr loyalists? No.
An imperialist and statist attempt to control events is underway. While some are fooled, others have seen through it. Let freedom be your torch and you will also.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Communications Portal |
Outlaw Jenner
Caldari
Misfits Enterprises
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2010.05.18 19:16:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Koronakesh
Originally by: Sinti Vailatti
You have done nothing in the past year to indicate that you want to do anything that isn't in your own self-interest and now that you see something that scares you, you want to join our bandwagon?
And here I thought the whole announcement was about how we were NOT joining anyone's bandwagon and are going to be fighting Nation OUR OWN way. Some people...
Pretty sure the Nation couldnt give a toss about walls of text on the igs... just a thought
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Anabella Rella
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.05.18 19:22:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Drake Arson
There is nothing you or any lapdogs can do to stop the Nation.
Strength in Unity.
Pro Tip: Before making plans to take over mankind make certain your corporation's name is spelled correctly.
Just sayin'...
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