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Caladain Barton
Amarr Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 00:47:00 -
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Alliance mails from Bobby today:
TLDR: Atlas is leaving the north.
I am going to start off first by saying I am sorry, sorry for allowing the cluster **** that is this campaign and the h-w situation to have happened or more importantly to have allowed it to get so bad.
Lets take it from the worst thing first, the h-w fiasco. The attack on H-W was never supposed to have happened, the original plan involved camping down H-W on the morning of the 9th to keep as much of the NC contained while a smaller but cap heavy group of forces went off sbuing/reinforcing stuff all over pb/fade. One of the straining points of the plan was that it was all created on a rather hasty whim by SirMolle on a Thursday night after a number of his FC's and best grunts started to scream at him for action or they were leaving.
So how did we end up sieging H-W instead, I have no ****in idea to be perfectly honest -- but whatever happened, happened and by the time the day was through it seemed Molle had some misguided conception that he could camp H-W in a PR-8 style as goons/nc had done to BoB before the fall of Delve. The only problem was he failed to realize the details in that when PR-8 was camped up, it was like 25 alliances vs his mainly 2 alliances (IT/-A-) whereas H-W was our collective 6-8 alliances vs NC blob's however ****in many alliances. Worst yet there was little to no success to date on our part to demoralize/fracture NC numbers, so when H-W was threatened, it was like walking into a bear cave in the middle of winter and popping off a few rounds for lols then sticking around to see if you get eaten or not. Well ladies, we got eaten.
The whole idea of logging capitals off in H-W was a ludicrously stupid plan, it was one I was vocal about not doing and my biggest regret in this whole situation is failing to do what I have done for the past 3 years -- telling others to go **** themselves and issuing my own orders in the best interest of ATLAS. I was trying to be a team player and it bit us in the ass -- I will not make that same mistake again. I have no problem working with allies but at the end of the day, never will I allow us again to be subordinate to other peoples plans. You take what ATLAS offers you or you can suck our collective ****s.
I am going to try keep the rest of this short, the entirety of this NC campaign is and has been a joke, it never materialized as was envisioned and the sooner everyone involved realizes that the less ******ed everyone will look. I really don't give a **** what people think about us for pulling out but we are going home. The allies we care about know we are leaving and understand, the rest of them, well thats really only IT -- I don't really care what they think. I have a feeling the only thing this campaign has proven among the SC alliances, is to never let IT lead another campaign.
This campaign was so stupid it even cost us our first titan loss after 3 years, sure it was going to happen eventually and that is the only comfort we have but we will not be phased by it -- **** happens, ships blow up, we move on. If you got iskies to spare I do encourage you to dig deep and generously with your donations to beehatch. It does not matter the circumstances of how or why he died, all that matters is he died in the name of ATLAS by putting himself out there in a hostile system under questionable and stupidly disorganized circumstances and for that we will make sure he is taken care of, expect to see him in a new titan VERY soon.
If you have a super capital stuck in H-W, thats easy to get out -- login 2-3 minutes before downtime or even in the final minute, make fleet with cyno pilot, jump out on exit from warp. This can and should also be done by regular capitals but when doing so it is VERY important that you make sure YOU INVITE THE CYNO PILOT to your own fleet right after you've logged in, this will make sure that YOU HAVE NO SESSION TIMER, so the minute you land from login warp, you can jump
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Caladain Barton
Amarr Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 00:52:00 -
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.... out instantly. There is no reason this has to be done near downtime for conventional capitals but downtime does serve as a nice cutoff in case you screw up.
The bottom line for conventional capitals and support stuck in H-W is to get out, if that means you die trying then so be it, we will do our best to reimburse all losses. Effective immediate we are cutting dread reimbursements to 650m as a cost saving measure, this is not something I want to do but our budget czar Kneto tells me that it must be done and so, it is done. Let this be your incentive to get out alive... lol. We do have an assortment of dreads available and will replace lost dreads with new hulls where possible.
And another mail:
The orders are simple, pack your bags and head home towards 0-w or whatever corner of our space you call home. If you have the ability to do so please assist with or setup cyno chains towards hothomo to get people rolling. I would like everyone home and restaged for combat ops out of 0-w by no later than Thursday, though we will likely start ops before that on a smaller scale. We got allot of **** near home to cleanup and new ***gots arriving in curse that should provide some fun.
If you have **** lingering in raha, obe or god forbid still in eurgrana (like me) then take some time and relocate those assets back home also. Sure a road trip might be on the agenda again in the future but if and when that happens it will be more on the scale of geminate campaign where we do what we want, when we want and secondary to our fun will be the agenda of our allies.
I want to thank everyone that tried to make good out of the cluster **** that was the NC campaign and again apologize to all those who found themselves trapped in H-W, I will not allow that to ever happen again.
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IT Yassir
Caldari No Limit Productions Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 01:00:00 -
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Prop's to Boby for beeing a wize leadear BFF
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Zigam
Minmatar Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.18 01:05:00 -
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DID WE WIN ?????    
GF athlas
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Facepalm
Amarr Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 01:21:00 -
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GFs and see yous next year!
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Pir'oko
Minmatar NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.18 01:21:00 -
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[insert NC damage-control here]
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.18 01:21:00 -
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Hmm. Any bets how long before IT declares ATLAS the main reason for failed campaign? Maybe even withdraws from north and starts attacking ATLAS to punish them for their betrayal? Or just to go for them as they are easy target + not obeying the masters?
Quote: The allies we care about know we are leaving and understand, the rest of them, well thats really only IT -- I don't really care what they think.
I can hardly believe that there is someone who STILL really thinks he can be real ally and "friend" to BOB/IT. Relations with them are very simple - you are good ally as long as you listen their orders or there is easier target then you to shoot at...Alas, some people prefer to live in a lie just to be part of the "winning team". When wins become rare....the truth comes out...
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ByFstugan
Caldari Big Shadows Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.18 01:28:00 -
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GF - we served us on a plate and it was fun until you started to eat ^^
Looking forward to more great fights whenever it may be - let's hope CCP fixes the dominion-extra-lag until then so we all get more fun even when we die :)
salut o7 _______________________________
The wise knows what he knows not. |

Yafn
Minmatar Robbing You of Your Space Pixels
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Posted - 2010.05.18 01:34:00 -
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molle kicked Atlas' leadership from a joint SC meeting because they refused to follow him blindly.
and people talk about atlas treating their "allies" badly
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Facepalm
Amarr Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 01:42:00 -
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I just realized: HAPPY V-A DAY BFFS!
V-KSC Day coming soon...
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Vasili Z
Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 01:45:00 -
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Now Atlas can finally go back to shooting their natural enemies: the NC. -------
Going to kill you in Dust 514 (wait a minute, micro-transactions are dumb) |

Bezzell
Gallente F.R.E.E. Explorer Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.05.18 01:46:00 -
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I'm confused. Did Atlas even deploy yet? WTF?
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Snot Shot
Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.18 01:51:00 -
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About time the plug on this fiasco got pulled... The starting gun for this push should never have started until all the "teams" were at the line and inplace ready to go..
To bad Atlas and -A- took so long to get their **** together but at the same time IT never should have started without them.
Good luck to the SC and have fun kickin PLs taco in...... . Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot
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Naupilo
Caldari Altless Green Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.18 01:54:00 -
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Must be fake.
Atlas does not have a cap reimbursement program 
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Czeris
Caldari Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 02:07:00 -
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/popcorn
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PIMPerian
Amarr In for the Kill Scooty Puff Junior Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.18 02:10:00 -
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Props to Bobby Atlas for beeing honest.
/me bows down
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dastommy79
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.18 02:15:00 -
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Blah if you would have posted this a while ago, i wouldnt have had to log in.
THIS IS ALL LIES AND DONT BELIVE IT! ITS A BOBBY ATLAS IMPOSTER I TELL YOU!!
Once we are moved out of the north, I'll comment on this whole cluster F of an operation.
I role play ewok
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D3rg3
Minmatar Alpann Siad Anam Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.18 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Zigam DID WE WIN ?????    
GF athlas
win what ? you didnt start anything and game mechanics shielded you from any real opposition.
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Caladain Barton
Amarr Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79 Blah if you would have posted this a while ago, i wouldnt have had to log in.
THIS IS ALL LIES AND DONT BELIVE IT! ITS A BOBBY ATLAS IMPOSTER I TELL YOU!!
Once we are moved out of the north, I'll comment on this whole cluster F of an operation.
If my intel is faulty, i apologize. Merely reposting from kugu and SHC.
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Imigo Montoya
Gallente THE INSURGENCY DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.05.18 03:06:00 -
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With all the sincerity available to a CAOD post - it's been a pleasure having you guys visit, please feel free to stop by anytime.
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Kastera
Minmatar Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.18 03:21:00 -
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50m isk says Molle loses another Titan before IT pulls out
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Sovox
Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.18 03:38:00 -
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Thanx for the fights Atlas it was fun but could have been Epic pre Dominion..oh well i guess.
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Shtirlec
Amarr Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.18 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Vasili Z Edited by: Vasili Z on 18/05/2010 02:19:55 Now Atlas can finally go back to shooting their natural enemies: the NC.
Here's to 47 more years of the NC doing absolutely nothing interesting in Eve while alliances that make up 5% of NC fleets brag about defending some system and doing 500 damage to a black-screened titan.
I did not see PL whine so much about their lost titans...sooo
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari 24th Imperial Guard
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Posted - 2010.05.18 04:48:00 -
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Wait wut happend ? The big pvpgod Bobby retreat from some carebears ? What a shame. 
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Shinma Apollo
Caldari Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.05.18 05:01:00 -
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Pretty well written memo, and pretty apt summation. Probably one of the many indicators why, despite his usual shenanigans and misgivings, people still follow babby atlas around after all these years.
Dust yourself off, and you got home field I think next run, let's hope we get some better servers though :V
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Comunique
Amarr Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.18 05:04:00 -
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c u you in P-E9GN
whoops, wrong war.
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Thronde
Amarr United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 05:22:00 -
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Edited by: Thronde on 18/05/2010 05:23:49 Edit. I fail. :(
Good job and mad Kudos to Atlas. Even though I haven't gotten to sling a single shell in anger in this war (stupid computer dying), I give Atlas mad props for that Cap-ship fight they willing jumped into even though they knew they would probably lose. Balls gents, you guys have them, and they get to clang loudly all the way home.
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Czeris
Caldari Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: D3rg3
Originally by: Zigam DID WE WIN ?????    
GF athlas
win what ? you didnt start anything and game mechanics shielded you from any real opposition.
There's always gotta be one.
Waiting for "we didn't really want to win anyways, we just came for the fight".
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SheriffFruitfly
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.18 05:35:00 -
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Edited by: SheriffFruitfly on 18/05/2010 05:35:23 Sequel to the best eve online movie evah? Sure to be a youtube classic!
"There are reports of massive withdrawl of MC Atlas forces to their home systems..."
"Sources inside MC Atlas say relations with their long time employer are strained..."
"MC Atlas pilots are not interested in protecting BOB's IT's crumbling empire offensive."
"We're not playing 'your' version of mercenaries" - Seleene Bobby Atlas
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Bernadictus
Caldari Divine Retribution Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.18 06:18:00 -
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+1 to Bobby for having the guts to pull out of the Bozo the Clown circus wagon. Had good fun with you NC guys, but you need to tell your Arazu pilots to stop probing so fast :D
BFF! <3
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