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PretendRussian
Minmatar Shadow of xXDEATHXx holding Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.05.19 03:06:00 -
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I like the part where Bobby talks about losing their 1st titan in 3 years... he might want to wind back his clock ;d
Also begging for donations for a new titan is disgraceful, because you have been accumulating wealth for a while now and it couldnt have gone all into reimbursing dreads and carriers from fail cap battles, ookkee's nyx and titans you bought from AAA. So why are you asking for donations???
Also, in case Bobby Atlas missed the memo on why they went to NC space: cap battles, allies support, moons in low sec and trolling. Now they are throwing it all out of the window, because they are at a stand still and lost a lot of caps due to their own stupid decisions. Your pulling out of the North is just as disgraceful as asking for donations, presuming you had any from 3 years ago ;d toodles
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Snot Shot
Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.19 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: PretendRussian I like the part where Bobby talks about losing their 1st titan in 3 years... he might want to wind back his clock ;d
Also begging for donations for a new titan is disgraceful, because you have been accumulating wealth for a while now and it couldnt have gone all into reimbursing dreads and carriers from fail cap battles, ookkee's nyx and titans you bought from AAA. So why are you asking for donations???
Also, in case Bobby Atlas missed the memo on why they went to NC space: cap battles, allies support, moons in low sec and trolling. Now they are throwing it all out of the window, because they are at a stand still and lost a lot of caps due to their own stupid decisions. Your pulling out of the North is just as disgraceful as asking for donations, presuming you had any from 3 years ago ;d toodles
Well said. I use to respect Bobby but I think he did his pilots wrong by sounding the retreat so fast after a few SC cap losses and blaming the "Team" mates that waited for his lazy ass to show up a month+ late to the fight. Even if IT made the call to stay in H-W and it turned into a **** show, you cant show up to a game at half-time, walk onto the field and think you are going to call the plays now.. You need to take some hits, get the flow of the game, then start throwing in on strategy and what the next play should be...
Instead....Atlas gets tackled, Bobby cries, and he packs his team back on the bus and goes home... Agreed the game was lost when you showed up at half time but ffs at least have some class and help your other team mates off the field that had been waiting for you to show up for a long time to help....
I think Bobby owes IT an appology... Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot
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LovePizza
Caldari They Found Oil On Your Anus
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Posted - 2010.05.19 05:03:00 -
[93]
"Screw you guys! I'm going home!"
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Big Shadows Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.19 07:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ace Frehley on 19/05/2010 07:18:57
Originally by: Revisal
Originally by: Kay Rizen
Originally by: Ace Frehley and then they brought 500 to fight 200, not when we brought equal numbers for some nice pew pew.
Step 3 was complain about the enemy blobbing right? or 4? Either way GF, now GTFO our LAWN!
Our enemy is rushing in to defend their home system and brings hundreds? Not faiiiiiir.
Sorry Internet cool boys, you completly missed the point, cuz when that happend it wasent we who whined about the lag, SO I CAN BE HOW MUCH ON YOUR LAWN I WANT! and I think that lawn was "Germinite" and I can be there how much I want
Will the lawn boys be so though and claim it back on their own then
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Ilene D'over
Amarr Tax Free Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.19 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Yafn molle kicked Atlas' leadership from a joint SC meeting because they refused to follow him blindly.
and people talk about atlas treating their "allies" badly
Don't forget who it is you are talking about. He is incapable of accepting anything other that totalobedience to his every whim, no matter how messed up it might be.
What I cannot figure out is why his "allies" let him set stratergy after his brilliant tactic that resulted in the infamous month long PR-8 bubblefest. ===== 100th level Black Liquorice Belt exponent in that great Lancastrian Martial Art of Eckythump.
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Romulus XII
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.19 09:53:00 -
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I never imagined the NC would suck that hard, and im not talking about pvp wise but Bobby's rod. I guess he really beat Avi's golden one.
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Ocih
Amarr The Program Vanguard.
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Posted - 2010.05.19 09:54:00 -
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Now leave Provi and let CVA do what they do better than you, better than those welfare alliances that have half the systems down there.
I just cloned in to R3. They dont even have the ISK to bring the repair facility back online let alone the research or cloning facilities.
You got hosed. You did too U'K. You will bankrupt trying to keep those systems.
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Captain Thunk
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.05.19 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ilene D'over
What I cannot figure out is why his "allies" let him set stratergy after his brilliant tactic that resulted in the infamous month long PR-8 bubblefest.
Thats a pretty good point as it took around a month for his allies to turn up and rescue him and it also took a month for his allies to travel up North.
Guess in future Molle should take the delay into consideration.
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Ilene D'over
Amarr Tax Free Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.19 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Curso What no more battle cruiser gangs?! what ever shall we do!
Learn to fight on your own?
Nah, I forgot who I was responding to for a second there. ===== 100th level Black Liquorice Belt exponent in that great Lancastrian Martial Art of Eckythump.
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dastommy79
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.19 11:44:00 -
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We failed, plain and simple. Our participation was crap and our pilots were not into this fight. We were not prepared for the fight and we rushed into it too quickly. Atlas immediatly after we finished our campaign in Geminite, went directly down to providence to help -A- grind through all those stations. We got maybe a week of r&r and then packed everything back up north. Our pilots were burned out. Most of our major FC's and even our alliance leader were on break. Many of our vets were not logging in and our participation was horrible compared to our last several campaigns.
We pushed too hard with nothing to back it up with. We tried to hit stations and moons when we know the first act in an invasion is to simply roam and kill enemy fleets to break morale. Instead our fleets got killed and we did something stupid by trying to involve ourselves in a sov war with a superior enemy. NC has been preparing for this war while we have been roaming eve like space hobos killing **** and burning ourselves out.
In the end there is no one to blame but ourselves. Our allies did an excellent job but had their own problems aswell. We failed because of our own damn fault. Now we have to learn from our mistakes, shrug it off and move on.
I had a lot of fun up north. Were alot of good fights. I also <3 ME and Rage, hopefully we can come visit you guys sometime soon again. So GF allies and enemy alike and we'll see you on the battlefield again but not until we are ready.
I role play ewok
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Roark Garnet
Minmatar Pulsar Inc. Cursed Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.19 11:46:00 -
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Why do I feel like making love to dastommy :( ? *halp*
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Sextus Licinius
Caldari Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.19 11:49:00 -
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Dasty rocks tbh 10/10
"These people that we've wasted today are the finest human beings ever. When we'll rotate back in the world, we gonna miss not having anyone worth shooting...
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Arrador
Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.19 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79 I had a lot of fun up north. Were alot of good fights. I also <3 ME and Rage, hopefully we can come visit you guys sometime soon again.
You know I'll hold you to that. And lord help you if I have to grind lvl 4's to find you....
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paracidic
Amarr Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.19 12:26:00 -
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Thanks very much Bobby and friends for coming and staying as long as you did. As always, it was fun flying with you.
I have a nice bottle of Port set aside for next time.
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Subtarian
Minmatar Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.19 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: PretendRussian I like the part where Bobby talks about losing their 1st titan in 3 years... he might want to wind back his clock ;d
Also begging for donations for a new titan is disgraceful, because you have been accumulating wealth for a while now and it couldnt have gone all into reimbursing dreads and carriers from fail cap battles, ookkee's nyx and titans you bought from AAA. So why are you asking for donations???
Also, in case Bobby Atlas missed the memo on why they went to NC space: cap battles, allies support, moons in low sec and trolling. Now they are throwing it all out of the window, because they are at a stand still and lost a lot of caps due to their own stupid decisions. Your pulling out of the North is just as disgraceful as asking for donations, presuming you had any from 3 years ago ;d toodles
For all you kids out there who believe they know what leadership is in a internet spaceship game..carefully read and understand bobby and dast latest post. No grunt want to leave the battlefield limping back home, but to trully understand the situation at hand is what leaders should be able to do. I have been in Failscade alliances (IRC) when there is no true leadership, just kids playing a game not really understanding a **** thing. To be so blind to truth , you take your entire alliance down the drain and literally ruin a G*A*M*E. So please do me a favor Mr. Pretend russian talk about something you are familiar with, Because obviously you know nothing about leadership or the war that was fought.
P.S Renting yea..you should know plenty about that.
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Nostradamous
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.19 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: PretendRussian ookkee's nyx and titans you bought from AAA.
tbh for me, your post boils down to this line....and all I'm seeing is "Sh*t we finally caught ookke's nyx, just for him to go buy another one....". my suggestion to you, is look into buying jump freighters, and regular freighters in bulk, because your logistics crew seems to be perfect food for ookke.
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Orree
Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.05.19 16:58:00 -
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That's pretty well said, Dasty. I think you and Bobby are showing some fairly mature leadership here and I believe it will serve Atlas well. I might have said and done things a bit differently, but the substance is right on, I think.
As an observer, it's pretty clear to me that whatever else the campaign had going for or against it, timing was a major factor against. I figured Atlas and -A- would not be as "into it" as IT was given what the various parties had been doing when IT decided to kick off on its own timetable. IÆm not sure how much consultation on anything was afforded you guys by IT, but I canÆt see you being all that enthusiastic about the campaign timing. Still, given what was being brought to the party, even I had my doubts the NC would be able to withstand. I assumed full and lengthy commitment by all involved parties, though.
IT was just coming off a relatively "LOL" campaign in Fountain and even less of a "campaign" for Delve. They were obviously pretty pumped up and ready to take on anything. Meanwhile, you guys had just gotten done slogging through Geminate and Providence. Having been a small part of the Providence campaign, myself, I know how completely lacking in "fun" that was.
Timing really is everything.
At the start, I remember a lot of SC members and supporters laughing about how they were going to roll the NC carebears ôthis time, once and for allö and I cautioned that that people have said that before and been found lacking in the ability and stamina necessary to actually do so. I think one of the biggest flaws in SC strategy and mindset is the belief they are unquestionably better in every way than the NC and that you can exert a little bit of pressure and it will fracture. Two times now, this has been proved to be wrong on all accounts. The core of the NC is much closer, more cohesive and much more organized than many seem to want to believe. People even mistake what drives that motivation and cohesion. Keep underestimating them and youÆll keep failing. Different does not mean inferior.
People make great sport of talking about how the NC never does anything but mine and rat. Keep believing that nonsense if you wish. I respectfully submit that this belief isn't serving you well. ThereÆs a whole host of empirical evidence built up over the past 3-4 years that supports the contrary. Yes, the NC is capable of some very ôWelp!ö moments and some incredibly stupid moves. This is true of any entity in the game, though.
It was an entertaining campaign at times. There was more than a few times I wished I was up there in the thick of it.
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Napro
Caldari Buccaneers of New Eden death from above..
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Posted - 2010.05.19 17:35:00 -
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Welcome back and we look forward to a resolution on the Cursed situation
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Schmobag
Gallente The Inevitable Corp
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Posted - 2010.05.19 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Orree Yes, the NC is capable of some very ôWelp!ö moments and some incredibly stupid moves. This is true of any entity in the game, though.
Well said. Bashing the NC for not being elite PVPers is a bit like bashing hockey players for not being good at figure skating. They are playing a different game than you are.
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Nick Curso
Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.19 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ilene D'over
Originally by: Nick Curso What no more battle cruiser gangs?! what ever shall we do!
Learn to fight on your own?
Nah, I forgot who I was responding to for a second there.
Just like NC right... right?! Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
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Meno Theaetetus
Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.19 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Curso
Originally by: Ilene D'over
Originally by: Nick Curso What no more battle cruiser gangs?! what ever shall we do!
Learn to fight on your own?
Nah, I forgot who I was responding to for a second there.
Just like NC right... right?!
If the thread had got a little high brow for you Nick you could have picked another smack thread. This thread however had actually started to become constructive, possibly for the first time this year.
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Da'iel Zehn
Caldari Bloodnaut Wayfarer Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2010.05.19 22:00:00 -
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lots of good fights.
have a nice trip home.
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Got a problem? Talk to my gun.
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Imigo Montoya
Gallente THE INSURGENCY DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.05.20 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Orree People make great sport of talking about how the NC never does anything but mine and rat. Keep believing that nonsense if you wish. I respectfully submit that this belief isn't serving you well.
Shhhhh, you're giving away our little secret! We want everybody to think we're just carebears, that way they'll keep underestimating us.... please don't ruin it!
On a more serious note, another factor in warfare (whether in RL or a game) is motivation - there's a whole lot more motivation to be found defending one's "home" than in attacking somebody else. For the NC it is a matter of "successfully defend your home turf or go back to empire" (oh god please not empire!), whereas for the SC it has been "successfully kill the NC or go back home, which we'll do in the end anyway".
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Killiades
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.20 02:18:00 -
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just thinking... IT asked atlas,aaa and co to help and 1 month later they arrived in tribute during this campaign and in PR-8 it took a month for help to arrive.... if history is to repeat itself, i would say that BLAST and Fountain pet CTA that was called to break IT out of h-w should arrive in about 3 weeks right? Offendo sicco procul qui peto praelior vobis per ferocia of mille proeliator , illi mos non tribuo vos subterlabor |
Shierah
Amarr The Fimbriani Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.05.20 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Subtarian
For all you kids out there who believe they know what leadership is in a internet spaceship game..carefully read and understand bobby and dast latest post. No grunt want to leave the battlefield limping back home, but to trully understand the situation at hand is what leaders should be able to do. I have been in Failscade alliances (IRC) when there is no true leadership, just kids playing a game not really understanding a **** thing. To be so blind to truth , you take your entire alliance down the drain and literally ruin a G*A*M*E. So please do me a favor Mr. Pretend russian talk about something you are familiar with, Because obviously you know nothing about leadership or the war that was fought.
P.S Renting yea..you should know plenty about that.
Having been in IRC and now Atlas you're obviously well versed in what good leadership is.
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Ceirah
Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.20 08:33:00 -
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Edited by: Ceirah on 20/05/2010 08:34:36 Shierah
Somewhy people pronounce my name like yours and its very annoying even tho I dont know either how to pronounce it
EDIT: We had some good times up in the north, hope to visit you soon -------------------------------------------------- [2009.12.07 20:19:26] Tylr > atlas invade WI lol [20:22:32] Bobby Atlas > well i guess we will see you guys in a few weeks |
Trajun
Caldari DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.20 08:53:00 -
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This thread however had actually started to become constructive, possibly for the first time this year.
moderators please delete ALL such posts. they have no place in CAOD
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Ilene D'over
Amarr Tax Free Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.20 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Curso
Originally by: Ilene D'over
Originally by: Nick Curso What no more battle cruiser gangs?! what ever shall we do!
Learn to fight on your own?
Nah, I forgot who I was responding to for a second there.
Just like NC right... right?!
That is the difference between having friends and having pets and renters. Friends will help you out in a tight sc****. Renters and pets will run when the going gets tough.
You do remember what that was like, I take it. That resulted in BoB running south after the first MaxFail to "help" -A- fend off the fearsome Goonies. It happened again when a disgruntled BoB director disbanded the alliance resulting in a free for all in the South. Rather than stay and fight the pets and renters ran, not even stopping to help their former masters out in PR-8. And now we see it happen all over again.
BTW, I was wondering whether Molle decided on his excuse for the failure of this latest venture? Will he blame Atlas for his tactical failures? Will he blame the lagand the node crashes, forgtetting that he claimed that would be used to the SC'd advantage? We all waited with baited breath. ===== 100th level Black Liquorice Belt exponent in that great Lancastrian Martial Art of Eckythump.
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Karunel
Gallente Princeps Corp Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.20 12:23:00 -
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Well said Dastommy, you make us proud. \o/
As for the people mocking Bobby, I think you should really think about it twice considering the alliances most of you are in. You can only wish you could have such an awesome leader as Bobby, the amount of work and passion he's put into Atlas is just phenomenal and the trajectory of our alliance is the best proof of it.
To the NC, well played, we'll see you next round (I guess, EVE is boring like that). To our SC friends staying up north, good luck!
Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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Jommis
Caldari Big Shadows Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.20 13:39:00 -
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LEAVE BRITTNEY, EHM BOBBY, ALOOOOOOOOONE!!!
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