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JimmySav
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Posted - 2004.12.11 18:03:00 -
[61]
IF any1 wants to buy some mindflood or crash to keep your agents happy conatct me ingame....
PS I find that "ooh good rewards = cheating" sends out a bad sign ! lol
Jim'll Fix it For You. ( and you and you!)
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JimmySav
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Posted - 2004.12.11 18:03:00 -
[62]
IF any1 wants to buy some mindflood or crash to keep your agents happy conatct me ingame....
PS I find that "ooh good rewards = cheating" sends out a bad sign ! lol
Jim'll Fix it For You. ( and you and you!)
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JimmySav
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Posted - 2004.12.11 18:03:00 -
[63]
IF any1 wants to buy some mindflood or crash to keep your agents happy conatct me ingame....
PS I find that "ooh good rewards = cheating" sends out a bad sign ! lol
Jim'll Fix it For You. ( and you and you!)
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.12.11 20:27:00 -
[64]
 Originally by: Kalfu
Work out how much isk and standing you would lose transporting the goods without using the ship-in-ship exploit* and it's not so obviously a bug. Take into account agent offers are supposed to make up for crap loot, low standing increase, longer mission times, increrased ship loss, and lack of important missions and it's even harder to tell.
*Maybe it's not an exploit. Maybe it is. Maybe you wont be banned for using it. Maybe you will. Who knows for sure? Only CCP, and they aint saying.
No one is getting a 700 million Isk agent offer for a few thousand LP. Go check the agent offer listing page, for around 15000 LP you are lucky to get offered an upgraded 75mm gatling. Yes the faction BS will be worth a hell of a lot, but with the current scaling they will cost a few hundred thousand LP, a Tier 2 BS and probably another 200 million worth of random crap.
The dev's came on and said it would probably be considered an exploit (it was to good to be true), and promptly deleted the offer from those who had it.
That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.12.11 20:27:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Kalfu
Work out how much isk and standing you would lose transporting the goods without using the ship-in-ship exploit* and it's not so obviously a bug. Take into account agent offers are supposed to make up for crap loot, low standing increase, longer mission times, increrased ship loss, and lack of important missions and it's even harder to tell.
*Maybe it's not an exploit. Maybe it is. Maybe you wont be banned for using it. Maybe you will. Who knows for sure? Only CCP, and they aint saying.
No one is getting a 700 million Isk agent offer for a few thousand LP. Go check the agent offer listing page, for around 15000 LP you are lucky to get offered an upgraded 75mm gatling. Yes the faction BS will be worth a hell of a lot, but with the current scaling they will cost a few hundred thousand LP, a Tier 2 BS and probably another 200 million worth of random crap.
The dev's came on and said it would probably be considered an exploit (it was to good to be true), and promptly deleted the offer from those who had it.
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Thanks for killing my corporation ISD.
ISD Motto: Changing history, one air brushed photo at a time. |
theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.12.11 20:27:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Kalfu
Work out how much isk and standing you would lose transporting the goods without using the ship-in-ship exploit* and it's not so obviously a bug. Take into account agent offers are supposed to make up for crap loot, low standing increase, longer mission times, increrased ship loss, and lack of important missions and it's even harder to tell.
*Maybe it's not an exploit. Maybe it is. Maybe you wont be banned for using it. Maybe you will. Who knows for sure? Only CCP, and they aint saying.
No one is getting a 700 million Isk agent offer for a few thousand LP. Go check the agent offer listing page, for around 15000 LP you are lucky to get offered an upgraded 75mm gatling. Yes the faction BS will be worth a hell of a lot, but with the current scaling they will cost a few hundred thousand LP, a Tier 2 BS and probably another 200 million worth of random crap.
The dev's came on and said it would probably be considered an exploit (it was to good to be true), and promptly deleted the offer from those who had it.
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Thanks for killing my corporation ISD.
ISD Motto: Changing history, one air brushed photo at a time. |
Kalfu
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:51:00 -
[67]
Originally by: theRaptor
No one is getting a 700 million Isk agent offer for a few thousand LP. Go check the agent offer listing page, for around 15000 LP you are lucky to get offered an upgraded 75mm gatling.
I like to think that loyalty offers will be fixed one day, so that running missions becomes a bit less profitable than mining scordite in 1.0 instead of the current situation of mission running being a complete waste of time financially. Part of my dream includes mission offers getting fixed so that they are occasionly worth taking. When this happenes the "offer doesn't suck/must be bug" logic stops working.
Yes, looking at the offer it is probably a bug due to the amount of isk involved, and if the devs said anyone who accepted it would have the money taken back off them I would accept that. Instead they threatened serious consiquences for "exploiting" what ing "obviosly" a bug in the game, but gave us no guidlines on how to tell when an offer was a bug and when it was just a good offer. Like I said earlier, would 70M isk be a fair offer or an exploit? 7M? 700k? 7 isk and a thank-you note?
Shiva was rolled out with a few known bugs and lots of unknown ones. We're still playing the game regardless, but if the devs are going to threaten their customers in such a casual and off-handed manner I'll let my accounts lapse and find something else to play. I know they are under a lot of stress right now trying to patch up problems but that does not excuse their behavior.
No, you cannot have my stuff. :-)
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Kalfu
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:51:00 -
[68]
Originally by: theRaptor
No one is getting a 700 million Isk agent offer for a few thousand LP. Go check the agent offer listing page, for around 15000 LP you are lucky to get offered an upgraded 75mm gatling.
I like to think that loyalty offers will be fixed one day, so that running missions becomes a bit less profitable than mining scordite in 1.0 instead of the current situation of mission running being a complete waste of time financially. Part of my dream includes mission offers getting fixed so that they are occasionly worth taking. When this happenes the "offer doesn't suck/must be bug" logic stops working.
Yes, looking at the offer it is probably a bug due to the amount of isk involved, and if the devs said anyone who accepted it would have the money taken back off them I would accept that. Instead they threatened serious consiquences for "exploiting" what ing "obviosly" a bug in the game, but gave us no guidlines on how to tell when an offer was a bug and when it was just a good offer. Like I said earlier, would 70M isk be a fair offer or an exploit? 7M? 700k? 7 isk and a thank-you note?
Shiva was rolled out with a few known bugs and lots of unknown ones. We're still playing the game regardless, but if the devs are going to threaten their customers in such a casual and off-handed manner I'll let my accounts lapse and find something else to play. I know they are under a lot of stress right now trying to patch up problems but that does not excuse their behavior.
No, you cannot have my stuff. :-)
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Kalfu
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:51:00 -
[69]
Originally by: theRaptor
No one is getting a 700 million Isk agent offer for a few thousand LP. Go check the agent offer listing page, for around 15000 LP you are lucky to get offered an upgraded 75mm gatling.
I like to think that loyalty offers will be fixed one day, so that running missions becomes a bit less profitable than mining scordite in 1.0 instead of the current situation of mission running being a complete waste of time financially. Part of my dream includes mission offers getting fixed so that they are occasionly worth taking. When this happenes the "offer doesn't suck/must be bug" logic stops working.
Yes, looking at the offer it is probably a bug due to the amount of isk involved, and if the devs said anyone who accepted it would have the money taken back off them I would accept that. Instead they threatened serious consiquences for "exploiting" what ing "obviosly" a bug in the game, but gave us no guidlines on how to tell when an offer was a bug and when it was just a good offer. Like I said earlier, would 70M isk be a fair offer or an exploit? 7M? 700k? 7 isk and a thank-you note?
Shiva was rolled out with a few known bugs and lots of unknown ones. We're still playing the game regardless, but if the devs are going to threaten their customers in such a casual and off-handed manner I'll let my accounts lapse and find something else to play. I know they are under a lot of stress right now trying to patch up problems but that does not excuse their behavior.
No, you cannot have my stuff. :-)
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2004.12.13 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: Zrakor on 13/12/2004 14:50:08
Originally by: Aelita
Originally by: Zrakor
Originally by: Golem13
Edited by: Golem13 on 07/12/2004 14:13:24
hum think i have better offer
Offered Items:
These items are being offered to you by your agent:
756495485.638 credits
Cost:
The agent is requesting the following as payment for the item:
480 units of Exile
eight hundred units of Frentix
960 units of Nerve Sticks
9600 Loyalty Points
Papa Smurf, what heppens if i accept offer and bring what agent want?
It will be considered an exploit probably, but that is a GM issue. However the money will definately be found and deleted (if you have actually used it, you will be in bigger trouble). We're sorry about the inconvenience, someone made a static update to TQ but didn't update the code at the same time.
WOW! Zrakor! I can't believe that you did say this! Threating customer that way and telling that if he will accept that mission then he would be punished!
1st at all it's not our foult so don't blame customers! Someone did poor job he should be punished first not customer who fill your pockets.
2nd I see that reward as justified one. Pay 600 mil ISK for something in that big volumes is pretty right. Get all these drugs from agents is equal to month or more time working for agent in 0.0 space. So reward is pretty in line with time need to supply agent needs.
Actually all LP rewards are joke and honestly for me current rewards for LP is more than insult to customers.
Apology would be nice to these people instead threating would be justice.
It was not actually a threat, and I'm sorry if it came off like that. I do not go around banning people or punishing them, the GM's do. This was my advice to those who would have accepted these temporary offers, that accepting them and using the money would get them into trouble. They were caused by a bug, pure and simple, and using a bug to your advantage is an exploit. Getting 756495485.638 ISK for a small amount of drugs and LP's is an obvious bug.
Getting the offer in the first place though is in no way the users fault, and I applaud the thread maker for bringing this to our attention immediately instead of simply cashing in on the goods and hoping it gets ignored.
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2004.12.13 14:44:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Zrakor on 13/12/2004 14:50:08
Originally by: Aelita
Originally by: Zrakor
Originally by: Golem13
Edited by: Golem13 on 07/12/2004 14:13:24
hum think i have better offer
Offered Items:
These items are being offered to you by your agent:
756495485.638 credits
Cost:
The agent is requesting the following as payment for the item:
480 units of Exile
eight hundred units of Frentix
960 units of Nerve Sticks
9600 Loyalty Points
Papa Smurf, what heppens if i accept offer and bring what agent want?
It will be considered an exploit probably, but that is a GM issue. However the money will definately be found and deleted (if you have actually used it, you will be in bigger trouble). We're sorry about the inconvenience, someone made a static update to TQ but didn't update the code at the same time.
WOW! Zrakor! I can't believe that you did say this! Threating customer that way and telling that if he will accept that mission then he would be punished!
1st at all it's not our foult so don't blame customers! Someone did poor job he should be punished first not customer who fill your pockets.
2nd I see that reward as justified one. Pay 600 mil ISK for something in that big volumes is pretty right. Get all these drugs from agents is equal to month or more time working for agent in 0.0 space. So reward is pretty in line with time need to supply agent needs.
Actually all LP rewards are joke and honestly for me current rewards for LP is more than insult to customers.
Apology would be nice to these people instead threating would be justice.
It was not actually a threat, and I'm sorry if it came off like that. I do not go around banning people or punishing them, the GM's do. This was my advice to those who would have accepted these temporary offers, that accepting them and using the money would get them into trouble. They were caused by a bug, pure and simple, and using a bug to your advantage is an exploit. Getting 756495485.638 ISK for a small amount of drugs and LP's is an obvious bug.
Getting the offer in the first place though is in no way the users fault, and I applaud the thread maker for bringing this to our attention immediately instead of simply cashing in on the goods and hoping it gets ignored.
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2004.12.13 14:44:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Zrakor on 13/12/2004 14:50:08
Originally by: Aelita
Originally by: Zrakor
Originally by: Golem13
Edited by: Golem13 on 07/12/2004 14:13:24
hum think i have better offer
Offered Items:
These items are being offered to you by your agent:
756495485.638 credits
Cost:
The agent is requesting the following as payment for the item:
480 units of Exile
eight hundred units of Frentix
960 units of Nerve Sticks
9600 Loyalty Points
Papa Smurf, what heppens if i accept offer and bring what agent want?
It will be considered an exploit probably, but that is a GM issue. However the money will definately be found and deleted (if you have actually used it, you will be in bigger trouble). We're sorry about the inconvenience, someone made a static update to TQ but didn't update the code at the same time.
WOW! Zrakor! I can't believe that you did say this! Threating customer that way and telling that if he will accept that mission then he would be punished!
1st at all it's not our foult so don't blame customers! Someone did poor job he should be punished first not customer who fill your pockets.
2nd I see that reward as justified one. Pay 600 mil ISK for something in that big volumes is pretty right. Get all these drugs from agents is equal to month or more time working for agent in 0.0 space. So reward is pretty in line with time need to supply agent needs.
Actually all LP rewards are joke and honestly for me current rewards for LP is more than insult to customers.
Apology would be nice to these people instead threating would be justice.
It was not actually a threat, and I'm sorry if it came off like that. I do not go around banning people or punishing them, the GM's do. This was my advice to those who would have accepted these temporary offers, that accepting them and using the money would get them into trouble. They were caused by a bug, pure and simple, and using a bug to your advantage is an exploit. Getting 756495485.638 ISK for a small amount of drugs and LP's is an obvious bug.
Getting the offer in the first place though is in no way the users fault, and I applaud the thread maker for bringing this to our attention immediately instead of simply cashing in on the goods and hoping it gets ignored.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.12.13 16:16:00 -
[73]
ROFL Thats to funny i mean what the hell is the point in even saying what would happen to people who can exept it as theres no one who could get the ammount of contrabaned in the time the offer is up for.
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.12.13 16:16:00 -
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ROFL Thats to funny i mean what the hell is the point in even saying what would happen to people who can exept it as theres no one who could get the ammount of contrabaned in the time the offer is up for.
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.12.13 16:16:00 -
[75]
ROFL Thats to funny i mean what the hell is the point in even saying what would happen to people who can exept it as theres no one who could get the ammount of contrabaned in the time the offer is up for.
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
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BATT
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Posted - 2004.12.13 17:45:00 -
[76]
Hy Zrakor,any chances for a rogue drone Bp offer ?
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BATT
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Posted - 2004.12.13 17:45:00 -
[77]
Hy Zrakor,any chances for a rogue drone Bp offer ?
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BATT
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Posted - 2004.12.13 17:45:00 -
[78]
Hy Zrakor,any chances for a rogue drone Bp offer ?
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Kalfu
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Posted - 2004.12.13 23:44:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Zrakor
It was not actually a threat, and I'm sorry if it came off like that.
Thanks for stepping back into the thread to clarify; I was worried we'd scared you off the forums altogether. Good luck fixing up the mission system so everyone is happy. I'll now go back to pondering how I can bypass the bug system and get my problems delivered to a devs desk. :-)
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Kalfu
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Posted - 2004.12.13 23:44:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Zrakor
It was not actually a threat, and I'm sorry if it came off like that.
Thanks for stepping back into the thread to clarify; I was worried we'd scared you off the forums altogether. Good luck fixing up the mission system so everyone is happy. I'll now go back to pondering how I can bypass the bug system and get my problems delivered to a devs desk. :-)
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Kalfu
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Posted - 2004.12.13 23:44:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Zrakor
It was not actually a threat, and I'm sorry if it came off like that.
Thanks for stepping back into the thread to clarify; I was worried we'd scared you off the forums altogether. Good luck fixing up the mission system so everyone is happy. I'll now go back to pondering how I can bypass the bug system and get my problems delivered to a devs desk. :-)
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Reoc Targ
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Posted - 2005.07.14 06:08:00 -
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I'm a new player and got an offer for 1272108 ISK for 192 Nerve sticks and 480 loyalty points. Is that an exploit to? I was considering the mission and as a new player I'm not really clear on the price levels and such???
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Embattle
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Posted - 2005.07.14 06:17:00 -
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I kept getting loads of useless drug offers.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.07.14 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Reoc Targ
I'm a new player and got an offer for 1272108 ISK for 192 Nerve sticks and 480 loyalty points. Is that an exploit to? I was considering the mission and as a new player I'm not really clear on the price levels and such???
This thread is ancient and as such, you can assume that the bug in question has been fixed.
[Come to Daddy]
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.07.14 08:36:00 -
[85]
thats a bug? I actually thought the pay was too low for all the drugs it requested.
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Masu'di
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Posted - 2005.07.14 10:17:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Old Habits Die Hard
Offer Description
Happily, this station has become a favored pitstop for old merchants, mostly from CBD and Ytiri. Thing is,
many of them have picked up some nasty habits on their travels and I feel it's only my duty to oblige
them. I need 2240 units of Frentix, plus a spatter of Crash, say 320 units. I'll pay you 611812034.629 ISK
for this.
This offer expires at 2004.12.14 13:45:10
Offered Items:
These items are being offered to you by your agent:
611812034.629 credits
Cost:
The agent is requesting the following as payment for the item:
2240 units of Frentix
320 units of Crash
...
I'm no where near that. And I only have a week. 
if only this wasn't a bug, i could have got that for you and delivered!!
and hopefully got a good bit of ISK for It, im sure even 100M or two would have been reasonable payment :/
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.07.14 11:16:00 -
[87]
look at the date ppl 
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Tu Ve
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Posted - 2005.07.14 12:10:00 -
[88]
Guys please stop blaming CCP. Stop complaining about nerfs, stop talking about support, gm's and other things that related to eve.
CCP is #1 gaming company that made #1 game
Blizzard is #-~ company that care only about your money. I dont even think that there is any support that exists. you can call them and wait 2 hours listening to music, or you could write them email and get autoreply that if you send 1 more email you will be ignored and stuff like that.
After each patch they shut down payment site so people cant cancel subscriptions after everything been nerfed in game.
About nerfs and bugs:
few classess cant cast some skills at all because of bugs, and blizzard doesnt make anything
pvp = stone\scissors system, one class will always kill another class.
they made some competition thing called"battle grounds" which is played by 0 people
Their servers shutting off different times, about few times a day. note that CCP servers are almost always online!!!!
you think GMS are too strict?
look at this
There was a raid on high lvl boss monster that takes 10 hours to get to him or more.
Its about 15 player raid and everyone spent 10 hours.
There was a player named Baalz in the team, which is the name of some character from some fairy tale. while they were in that place GMS said to Baalz that he have to immideatly logoff and change his nickname.
GMS dont give a **** if players spent their hours doing stuff, they care only about $$$$$$.GM said that his nickname was to offensive and it meant MALE testicals omgomgomgomg.
About game:
CCp make great games ok!!!
world of warcraft client side stuff that you can edit
1)Location
2)damage- not the dmg output but some formulas, for example rogue could do 5k insta dmg with ambush skill.
gg?!?
Blizzard employes please d**
CCP you are great!
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00Dead
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Posted - 2005.07.18 12:51:00 -
[89]
Edited by: 00Dead on 18/07/2005 12:54:00
I personally think that threatening paying customers for accepting an ingame mission with what seemed like a ban and isk confiscation is totally out of line.
How can accepting a mission be an exploit?
An exploit is something that bends game mechanics - This has obviusly been pulled from the mission database and looks like a valid offer to me.
I am very very disapointed with the comments made by the Dev's in this thread - It makes me wonder if they want to keep their paying customers.
Fix your Game pronto! - Dont go banning/stealing ISK from paying customers who can not be expected to know what is and what is not a valid mission offer.
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Kaemonn
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Posted - 2005.07.18 13:08:00 -
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Do not bump old threads.
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