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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.23 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 23/05/2010 16:47:01
BIG will once again host betting for the Alliance tournament.
This time the 8th Alliance Championships (AT8)
The AT8 website is now live, and you can start making your bets!!!
So - What excactly do we offer?
We offer the standard "bet on the team you think will win overall", but also a range of other bet types We even offer "late entry" bets, which is bets made *after* the tournament has started!
- Who will be ranked in the top 32 after round 1 (early entry).
- Who will be ranked in the top 32 after round 2 (early entry).
- Who will make it to the semifinals (early entry).
- Who will make it to the semifinals (late entry).
- Who will win the tournament (early entry).
- Who will win the tournament (late entry).
Bets have to be made before round 1 starts (2010.06.05 15:00) Bets have to be made before the finals round (brackets) starts (2010.06.19 15:00)
On the site you'll among other things find the "Bet Calculator", making it a bit easier to determine excactly what to put in the infobox when you transfer your ISK to "BIG Games".
Make sure to use it, if at all in doubt about what to enter in the infobox. Updating of bets is done automatically via the EVE API, so the text entered needs to be spot on for the program to recognize it. Any mistake and your bet will be treated as a BIG Lottery entry! (and any amounts above the max for the BIG Lottery will be treated as a donation - Thank you very much!)
On the site you will also be able to see the bets already made!
Apart from the betting we naturally also supply the full schedule for the tournament (Currently the times are a guess, as the official list hasnt been posted yet)
Lots of info there - And all in one place!
Go have a look around.
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.23 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 23/05/2010 16:47:56 Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results. They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see : [BIG Betting] AT7 [BIG Betting] AT6 [BIG Betting] AT5 [BIG Betting] AT4
PS : A sticky would be nice. Sugar on the top? 
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.23 16:38:00 -
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Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results. They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see : [BIG Betting] AT7 [BIG Betting] AT6 [BIG Betting] AT5 [BIG Betting] AT4
BIG Lottery |

TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.23 16:39:00 -
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Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results. They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see : [BIG Betting] AT7 [BIG Betting] AT6 [BIG Betting] AT5 [BIG Betting] AT4
BIG Lottery |

TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.23 16:39:00 -
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Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results. They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see : [BIG Betting] AT7 [BIG Betting] AT6 [BIG Betting] AT5 [BIG Betting] AT4
BIG Lottery |

TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.23 16:39:00 -
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Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results. They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see : [BIG Betting] AT7 [BIG Betting] AT6 [BIG Betting] AT5 [BIG Betting] AT4
BIG Lottery |

TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.23 16:40:00 -
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Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results. They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see : [BIG Betting] AT7 [BIG Betting] AT6 [BIG Betting] AT5 [BIG Betting] AT4
BIG Lottery |

TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.23 16:40:00 -
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Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results. They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see : [BIG Betting] AT7 [BIG Betting] AT6 [BIG Betting] AT5 [BIG Betting] AT4
(last one)
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LoveKebab
Caldari Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.05.24 09:17:00 -
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i still didnt get my refund from tripple titan lottery :P xVid4PSP MKV Encoding Tutorial |

Napolie
Gallente The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2010.05.24 17:15:00 -
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I Approve of this service and will probably throw in some excess isk if there is any 
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.24 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: LoveKebab i still didnt get my refund from tripple titan lottery :P
Yes you did
Quote:
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Huan CK
Gallente GK inc. Panda Team
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Posted - 2010.05.25 13:15:00 -
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So, how do early bets and late bets work out?
My guess is, they'll pour into different isk-pools and be paid out independantly, so that early bets and late bets are not going to be part of the same winning pool? ---------
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.26 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 26/05/2010 17:13:56
Originally by: Huan CK So, how do early bets and late bets work out?
My guess is, they'll pour into different isk-pools and be paid out independantly, so that early bets and late bets are not going to be part of the same winning pool?
Correct.
Take a look at, say, [BIG Betting] AT6 and you can actually see the individual bet type payouts. (AT7 had no early/late betting)
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.05.27 21:04:00 -
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Hello,
When attempting to view my bets via IGB:
Quote: Server Error in '/' Application.
Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.
Exception Details: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
Source Error:
An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below.
Stack Trace:
[NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.] AT7.mybets.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e) in D:\Projects\AT8\Web\AT6\mybets.aspx.cs:26 System.Web.Util.CalliHelper.EventArgFunctionCaller(IntPtr fp, Object o, Object t, EventArgs e) +24 System.Web.Util.CalliEventHandlerDelegateProxy.Callback(Object sender, EventArgs e) +41 System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) +131 AT7.CustomPageClass.OnLoad(EventArgs e) in D:\Projects\AT8\Web\AT6\CustomPageClass.cs:15 System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +65 System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +2427
Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:2.0.50727.3074; ASP.NET Version:2.0.50727.3074
Thanks!
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.28 15:53:00 -
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My server is re-booting every 2 hours, that type of error message looks as if you managed to hit the website just as the server was starting up again, but (most likely) the DB hasn't spun up yet.
If you happen to run into this, simply wait 5 minutes or so and then try again.
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Evilempire1
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.05.31 12:49:00 -
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I've double checked 5 times now, I have bet correctly but nothing shows up for me its been 2 days. Doesnt seem like the site has updated at all in the last 2 days though can someone help me out ?
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.31 18:07:00 -
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Don't you just love software...
The fix above (of course) introduced another (Murphy never sleeps...)
Now fixed.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
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Stovo kor
Firebird Squadron
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Posted - 2010.06.01 19:59:00 -
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My bets section works great now In-game
Ops Payouts coinciding with me seeing this thread was sweet
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Huan CK
Gallente GK inc. Panda Team
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Posted - 2010.06.02 07:33:00 -
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Yep all works fine now.
And oh my god, some people have some real high confidence in us :D I hope we can live up to your expectations! ---------
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Torgon Rialis
Sanctum Heavy Industries Manifest Destiny.
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Posted - 2010.06.03 09:54:00 -
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2 out of the 4 bets I placed showed up, I went back and checked and they were all correctly formatted.
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.03 16:38:00 -
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"All things come in threes"
I literally had that thought when I wrote my last post here (about bug fix #2), and was wondering what that 3rd one would be 
Now I know and it's fixed - Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
(It was a leftover (oversight) from AT7 that only had 2 bet types, and not 6, meaning bet types 3 through-6 got marked as invalid - sigh )
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On another note - No mention of the AT8 betting in the just released dev post by Stevie 
Where's the love....
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Serena Silvermoon
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Posted - 2010.06.04 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: Serena Silvermoon on 04/06/2010 14:16:31 Edited by: Serena Silvermoon on 04/06/2010 14:16:05 Great thing - makes watching the matches a litte more interesting. You should do a little more advertising though - there are not that many bets out there yet.
btw: How frequently do you update your bets via API and at what time does that job run? (after placing a bet: how long do I have to wait until it shows up on the website?)
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.04 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Serena Silvermoon
You should do a little more advertising though
I would love to, but how/where? We are severely limited in this respect.
Hence why I had hoped for a bit of dev-blog love, as that's really the only real way to "reach everyone" - But alas...
Originally by: Serena Silvermoon
btw: How frequently do you update your bets via API and at what time does that job run?
The EVE API is cashed for 60 minutes, so on average you'll have to wait 30 minutes. But it could be 1 minute or 60 minutes.
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Zervun
Amarr hirr
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Posted - 2010.06.04 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Zervun on 04/06/2010 16:31:28 One billion on Panda Team to win. Who the hell are they anyway?
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Fh'ear
Caldari Asset Relocation Specialist Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:14:00 -
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With the random server dc at around 3 this afternoon, I think I missed the deadline :( Just worried about this as my bet was 430mil, just wondering if it made it in time, as I don't really want to donate 430mil =/
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:15:00 -
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Just a reminder : "Early betting" bets are now closed.
"Late betting" (Bet types 4 and 6) is still available until the last weekend.
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:18:00 -
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I suppose when teams deliberately take a fall in order to scam the betting sites (see hydra) there is nothing that can be done. I'm not saying anythign should be done in this tournament. But future tournaments, what are your thoughts?
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.05 21:51:00 -
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It's an incredible dangerous grey area to move into, and as such I won't do (judge) anything.
It's a grey area because often you can't be 100% sure (99% isn't 100%...), and thus some would always disagree.
As such it's the final result that counts regardless how it came about.
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2010.06.06 02:19:00 -
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Yes I agree with your stance- just ride it out and see how it falls out. But basically I think that after this match betting on eve tournaments is as dead as the bounty system in eve.
I don't blame hydra at all. They just demonstrated what should have been obvious. Indeed I think its a good thing. Otherwise thick skulled folk like myself never would have gotten it. Morevover the future tournaments should indeed only be for what ccp offers. Because anyone who bets on the future matches - unless they have inside information that they know is accurate - is a fool.
Beside all this, we saw an awesome air show from hydra. I was trying to think what I would do if I was agony and its really hard to say. All those frig sized ships moving around at range. I cant fault agony. Nice job hydra.
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Raivi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.06 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Cearain Yes I agree with your stance- just ride it out and see how it falls out. But basically I think that after this match betting on eve tournaments is as dead as the bounty system in eve.
I don't blame hydra at all. They just demonstrated what should have been obvious. Indeed I think its a good thing. Otherwise thick skulled folk like myself never would have gotten it. Morevover the future tournaments should indeed only be for what ccp offers. Because anyone who bets on the future matches - unless they have inside information that they know is accurate - is a fool.
Beside all this, we saw an awesome air show from hydra. I was trying to think what I would do if I was agony and its really hard to say. All those frig sized ships moving around at range. I cant fault agony. Nice job hydra.
You seem to think this is the first time someone has thrown a match while betting on the other team. Tyrrax's antics didn't kill tournament betting, Gobbins' antics won't kill it, and both of them make eve a more enjoyable virtual world to play in imo. ---------------------------------------------
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Serena Silvermoon
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Posted - 2010.06.07 07:33:00 -
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When can we expect to see payout structures for bets on round 1?
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2010.06.07 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: Cearain on 07/06/2010 14:29:21
Originally by: Raivi
Originally by: Cearain Yes I agree with your stance- just ride it out and see how it falls out. But basically I think that after this match betting on eve tournaments is as dead as the bounty system in eve.
I don't blame hydra at all. They just demonstrated what should have been obvious. Indeed I think its a good thing. Otherwise thick skulled folk like myself never would have gotten it. Morevover the future tournaments should indeed only be for what ccp offers. Because anyone who bets on the future matches - unless they have inside information that they know is accurate - is a fool.
Beside all this, we saw an awesome air show from hydra. I was trying to think what I would do if I was agony and its really hard to say. All those frig sized ships moving around at range. I cant fault agony. Nice job hydra.
You seem to think this is the first time someone has thrown a match while betting on the other team. Tyrrax's antics didn't kill tournament betting, Gobbins' antics won't kill it, and both of them make eve a more enjoyable virtual world to play in imo.
I have no reason to think this was the first time someone threw a match. And I didnÆt say betting would die. People will still bet just like people still use eveÆs bounty system. Will people continue to bet as often even though itÆs very obvious the betting system can be openly rigged? Lets think about it.
Would betting on basketball take a hit if a team took the court and scored baskets against itself because they had all bet against themselves? Assume further that all relevant organizations acknowledged this conduct was fine. (and really IÆm not saying itÆs not fine ûfor eve- IÆm just stating some implications that I think will follow)
There would still be people betting of course 1) those who thought they had the inside scoop on how a game was rigged. And then there are 2) those who simply like to gamble û for gambling sake. (but then why give 10% juice? Play craps and get better odds) But the group who liked to gamble on basketball because they followed the sport and thought they could predict which team will do better based on what they learned (thus overcome the 10%).... Well I think that group is going to be less likely to bet. Would you not agree?
Betting on this tournament is sort of like betting on pro wrestling. You can go ahead and bet but donÆt do it because you think one is really better at wrestling.
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.07 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Serena Silvermoon When can we expect to see payout structures for bets on round 1?
After the last fight.
As I do it all in one fell swoop.
But you can do the math yourself if you wan't - all the numbers are there 
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.06.07 19:18:00 -
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Friendly bump, this is about to fall off the front page. Need more people betting so that I can win some of your monies. 
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Hustomte
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Posted - 2010.06.07 21:23:00 -
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I noticed R.A.G.E. is not listed? I hope they don't upset the entire betting scheme! 
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Kilrath Uskarl
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2010.06.08 02:16:00 -
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I made my bets and everything worked fine. Took about 1 hour for them to show up. Looking forward to winning money!
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.08 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Hustomte I noticed R.A.G.E. is not listed? I hope they don't upset the entire betting scheme! 
Oh lovely...
Took me a bit to figure out you are indeed correct.
I've been using this : http://www.eveonline.com/events/alliances/tournament/t8/schedule1.asp
As that seemed as the most official listing around. As of this writing it still lists GoonSwarm (vs Eve Engineering)
However over here : http://at.eve-ic.net/8/index.php?view=matches GoonSwarm has been replaced with R.A.G.E.
Anyone know when this switch occurred? (Not that it matters much - I'm just curious)
I'll now have to contact everyone who bet on GoonSwarm... Lovely...
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Serena Silvermoon
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Posted - 2010.06.08 07:09:00 -
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Ok - I'll try to do the math according to what I understand from the betting rules:
Total sum of bets in round 1: 2.197.000.000,00 ISK Subtracting 10% BIG handling fee => 1.977.300.000,00 ISK to be payed out Winning bets, that is bets on teams that won the first round and thus form the leading 32 teams, amount to: 1.374.000.000,00 ISK => payout factor will be 1.977.300.000,00 ISK / 1.374.000.000,00 ISK = 1,439 => for each 1 ISK bet on the winning teams, we will thus receive 1,439 ISK payout.
Does that sound correct?
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InnerDrive
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.06.08 07:30:00 -
[39]
\o/ BIG betting again
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.08 07:30:00 -
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The following have been sent to everyone who have made a bet on GoonSwarm
Quote:
Hi
You have made one or more bets on GoonSwarm.
I have just been made aware that this team has been substituted by another team - R.A.G.E
I'm obliged to write to you to ask if you wan't to keep your bet, but have it count for R.A.G.E instead. FYI R.A.G.E has won it's first match.
If you do not, I will return to you your bet amount.
If however I do not hear back from you before the start of round 2 (next weekend) I will assume you'll just wan't to keep your bet, but it being on R.A.G.E instead.
Regards BIG Games
That seems like the best way to deal with it.
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.08 07:35:00 -
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@Serena Silvermoon
It's close.
I do however only subtract the 10% admin fee from the (pool of) loosing bets.
Else a winning bet (say everyone bet on the same team and it won) could risk getting back less than they bet - even if they won.
I don't like that 
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Serena Silvermoon
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Posted - 2010.06.08 07:48:00 -
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Ok - so 10% admin fee of the loosing 823.000.000 ISK accounts for 82.300.000 ISK Remaining sum of bets is then 2.114.700.000 ISK Payout factor will then be 2.114.700.000 ISK / 1.374.000.000 ISK = 1,539
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Killer Gandry
Caldari TerraNovae
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Posted - 2010.06.09 11:27:00 -
[43]
I would like to bet on one Alliance as in being the eventual winner of the AT8
Is that possible?
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.10 11:53:00 -
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Yes - That would be a type 6 bet (or type 5, but betting is closed for early betting now)
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MasterOB1
Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.06.10 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul
Anyone know when this switch occurred? (Not that it matters much - I'm just curious)
It happened roughly 10 minutes before the match was scheduled to start, because Goonswarm didn't show up 
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.14 08:09:00 -
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Thanks for the info.
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Remember that betting is still open (Bet types 4 and 6)
And now that the qualifiers are over, and only 32 teams are left, it should be even easier to get in with a correct bet.
Predicting who will reach the semi's (Bet type 4) - is a 1 to 8 guess now (4 out of 32) 
And if you limit that to just those that won both of their qualifier games it's an amazing 4 in 14, which is almost 1 in 4.
It's almost criminal not putting down a million or two on each of those 14 teams imo.
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Kenny Dalglish
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Posted - 2010.06.14 11:17:00 -
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2010.06.14 20:43:00 -
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Actually after thinking about the types of bets that are made and the amounts in question I don't think its likely that anyone would throw a match just for the bets. There are not bets for individual matches other than the finals. And by that time the winnings from the actual tournament will likely outweigh the amount you would get from betting against yourself. -Cearain
Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906 |

Nerogk Shorn
Caldari Invicta. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.06.14 23:16:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Nerogk Shorn on 14/06/2010 23:16:14
Originally by: TornSoul
Hi
You have made one or more bets on GoonSwarm.
I have just been made aware that this team has been substituted by another team - R.A.G.E
I'm obliged to write to you to ask if you wan't to keep your bet, but have it count for R.A.G.E instead. FYI R.A.G.E has won it's first match.
If you do not, I will return to you your bet amount.
If however I do not hear back from you before the start of round 2 (next weekend) I will assume you'll just wan't to keep your bet, but it being on R.A.G.E instead.
Regards BIG Games
  At first I just thought it was a typo, but the second one...
The Bulbasaur Wizard D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
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Radioactive Bear
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Posted - 2010.06.15 10:53:00 -
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hy. i've got a problem with my bettings. before the at8 begun, i placed 3 bets: 20 mil on Legiunea Romana to be on the first 32 after round one, 10 mil on Legiunea Romana to be on the first 32 after round 2, and 2 mil on Noir to be on the first 32 after round one. as far as today i can't see my bets, but i did see the total amount of isk bet on those teams go up in a very short time after my bets. now i've got two questions: are my bets valid? and if they are (i belive that i have won at least one bet) how/when can i get my prize? or i'm just missing something and i didn't win anything after all?
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.15 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Radioactive Bear as far as today i can't see my bets
Have you checked http://at8.big-eve.com/mybets.aspx (the page can only work *ingame*)
Originally by: Radioactive Bear
now i've got two questions: are my bets valid? and if they are (i belive that i have won at least one bet) how/when can i get my prize? or i'm just missing something and i didn't win anything after all?
I checked - I have 3 bets from you. AT8-146/AT8-246/AT8-144. Those are valid. Payouts are after all matches are done. As I do all the math in one go.
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Radioactive Bear
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Posted - 2010.06.15 21:47:00 -
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all right then. honestlly i didn't check ingame so it seems that was my problem, and i don't really care so much about that isk so no stress there either, i was just curious why i had that problem. it will be nice to win though, everybody likes to win .
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.06.16 15:51:00 -
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Bump! I want moar moniez, I need more people placing bets that will lose! : >
Go go go, betting is still open for semi-finals and winners!
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2010.06.17 00:08:00 -
[54]
Ok I may have missed it but I assume the following rules apply for late and early bets:
1)no more early bets can be made.
2) Late bets for who will make it to the semi-finals can be made up until the first quarter final round starts.
3) Late bets for who will win the tournament can be made right up to the time the final round starts.
4) All the money for late bets is pooled together. So if you accurately make a late bet for a team to win the finals today it won't get you any different amount of winnings than if you make that bet right before the final round starts.
-Cearain
Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906 |

steave435
Caldari Final Agony B A N E
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Posted - 2010.06.17 07:02:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Cearain Ok I may have missed it but I assume the following rules apply for late and early bets:
1)no more early bets can be made.
2) Late bets for who will make it to the semi-finals can be made up until the first quarter final round starts.
3) Late bets for who will win the tournament can be made right up to the time the final round starts.
4) All the money for late bets is pooled together. So if you accurately make a late bet for a team to win the finals today it won't get you any different amount of winnings than if you make that bet right before the final round starts.
Quote: Bets have to be made before round 1 starts (2010.06.05 15:00) Bets have to be made before the finals round (brackets) starts (2010.06.19 15:00)
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.17 10:52:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 17/06/2010 10:53:36
1) Correct
2) No
3) No
4) Too many wrong things (see 2&3) in that question as to make sense.
Late betting:
Bets have to be made before the finals round (brackets) starts (2010.06.19 15:00)
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.06.17 14:06:00 -
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It only costs 1 million isk to place a bet; that's pocket change for most people. Go have some fun! Place some bets!   
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2010.06.17 14:40:00 -
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Ok thanks for the help. I think it's because you refer to all of the elimination rounds as a "finals round" that threw me. Maybe ccp does that too I don't know.
-Cearain
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Saint Lazarus
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
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Posted - 2010.06.19 08:48:00 -
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*Bumpy for last minute bets*
I'd also like to thank BIG for putting this together, great service and makes the tourney even more enjoyable!
Needs more love from CCP too  -----------------
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.19 15:06:00 -
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Betting is closed!!!
Originally by: Saint Lazarus *Bumpy for last minute bets* I'd also like to thank BIG for putting this together, great service and makes the tourney even more enjoyable!
Thank you!
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Needs more love from CCP too 
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Zin Leya
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Posted - 2010.06.19 15:18:00 -
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I made 5 "Who will win the tournament (early entry)"-bets, all made roughly an hour before the first round, and none of them seems to be registered properly. 4 of these seems to have made it into the big lottery though. Can you please clarify where I did wrong, so I can make a few late entries correctly?
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.19 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Zin Leya so I can make a few late entries correctly?
Originally by: TornSoul Betting is closed!!!
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Dunkin McLoud
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Posted - 2010.06.19 19:42:00 -
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Is there anyway you could post or add the ratios of the bets to the all bets page so you can find out how or calculate how much you can win?
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Mareck001
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Posted - 2010.06.19 20:04:00 -
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ummmmmm, I used your calculator to place a few bets, copied and pasted...MY BET WENT TO THE LOTTERY!!!
How can that be????
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.19 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dunkin McLoud Is there anyway you could post or add the ratios of the bets to the all bets page so you can find out how or calculate how much you can win?
I'm gonna do that once all the matches are over - So I only have to play with math once (doing it all at once)
It's gonna look something like this : http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=970578&page=1#3
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.20 14:20:00 -
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Early Bets : Bets have to be made before round 1 starts (2010.06.05 15:00) Late Bets : Bets have to be made before the finals round (brackets) starts (2010.06.19 15:00)
@Zin Leya
All your early bets (all bet type 5) where made on 2010.06.19 The deadline for early bets is(/was) 2010.06.05
Your one late bet - was also made on 2010.06.19 - But after the 15:00 deadline.
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@Mareck001
Your 2 bets where early bets made on 2010.06.15 The deadline for early bets is(/was) 2010.06.05
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Dunkin McLoud
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Posted - 2010.06.20 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Dunkin McLoud Is there anyway you could post or add the ratios of the bets to the all bets page so you can find out how or calculate how much you can win?
I'm gonna do that once all the matches are over - So I only have to play with math once (doing it all at once)
It's gonna look something like this : http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=970578&page=1#3
ah k, though im wondering if i just take the ammount i bet and turned it into a fraction say i bet 100 mill and the total bets was 328 i would win 100/328 of the bets placed against me?
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.20 14:27:00 -
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And once more
Originally by: TornSoul Betting is closed!!!
(Some have even made bets today.... the 20th... *sigh*)
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@Dunkin McLoud Read back a few posts...
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.06.20 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul (Some have even made bets today.... the 20th... *sigh*)
Yay, PL won, where's my money? : >
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brother stud
This will look bad on your killboard Capital Storm
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Posted - 2010.06.21 00:08:00 -
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i placed a bet on PL to win on the 5th of june at 12:29 (midday), so should register as an early entry bet, however, it shows up on the 'my bets' tab on my ingame broswer as a late entry bet, surely my bet should be an early entry bet, as it was 2 and half hours before the first match of the tournament kicked off.
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Ascendic
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.06.21 00:19:00 -
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Yea when do we get paid :)
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Fuji Tamura
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.21 00:33:00 -
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when do we get our money? 
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WarbzUK
Minmatar Easy Co. Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.06.21 07:28:00 -
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Give her a chance. D: She mentioned somewhere earlier payouts will be calculated the day after the finals and so payouts will most likely be made later today (21st) or tomorrow.
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Kartana Gilbor
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Posted - 2010.06.21 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: brother stud i placed a bet on PL to win on the 5th of june at 12:29 (midday), so should register as an early entry bet, however, it shows up on the 'my bets' tab on my ingame broswer as a late entry bet, surely my bet should be an early entry bet, as it was 2 and half hours before the first match of the tournament kicked off.
Yeah me too but looking back on it I may have put it in the wrong cateogry when sending the ISK 
Not reading everything ftl.....
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.21 18:26:00 -
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The math is done and the results are posted (start of the thread)
Please be patient!!!
393 individual ISK transfer to the winners is going to take some time...
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.21 21:39:00 -
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Payouts done...
Now excuse me while I go take care of this hand cramp of mine....
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WarbzUK
Minmatar Easy Co. Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.06.21 21:53:00 -
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Cheers. \o/
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Callisto Ares
Companion Cube Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.22 03:15:00 -
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Thank you very much 
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Saint Lazarus
C R Y O
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Posted - 2010.06.22 04:47:00 -
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Much thanks and respect to BIG and Torn Soul for putting this together, alot of effort and a great service.
Give it more wuv next year CCP -_- Made whole tournament more enjoyable for me, cant wait for next years! -----------------
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Tomato dePirre
Minmatar Kumovi The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2010.06.22 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul Payouts done...
Now excuse me while I go take care of this hand cramp of mine....
check again mate you are sure not finished....
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Stovo kor
Firebird Squadron
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Posted - 2010.06.22 21:12:00 -
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Thanks for running this TornSoul
Hope you get some love from CCP @ next AT
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TornSoul
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.23 22:41:00 -
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Thanks for the feedback guys - I really don't get much - So only have the numbers to go by...
Originally by: Stovo kor
Hope you get some love from CCP @ next AT
/fingers crossed
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