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eliminator2
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.23 17:58:00 -
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most people in EVE are saying that 1v1's do not exist yet most of us if not all know they do we have been in them we have won and lossed before and yet people are still saying they don't exist.
Sure you get the people that drop logistics on you or blob you half way through but the truth is that 1v1's still exist. and its up to use wether to do a 1v1 or not
so my question is how many of you would actually do a 1v1? of course it depends who you are against im sure but just out of curiosity -----------------------------------------------
I met Eliminator1..... I chewed it up, and spat it out. Now, he is my minion.
I kill miners and mission runners people say, I call them target pra |
omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.05.23 18:43:00 -
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I do 1v1's if I've got my ganglink/RR alt handy.
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Cameron Cein
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Posted - 2010.05.23 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: Cameron Cein on 23/05/2010 18:55:23 I would and do. i actually prefer 1v1 in all honesty, though i will admit to being rather new to the pvp side of eve. I think its more satisfying taking someone out by your lonesome.
To omgfreemoniez- having and using an alt doesnt count as 1v1
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Sarah Norbulk
Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.05.23 19:04:00 -
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I still enjoy a good 1v1, at least cruiser hulls and lower. Most battleship 1v1s are won or lost on the fitting screen before you undock. Frigate dogfights are a true test of pilot skill.
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eliminator2
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.23 19:25:00 -
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nice to see the first 3 comments are people who prefer them to other pvp new or old
i like 1v1 myself but bs mainly frigs arnt my style lol :D but none the less there fun ^^ -----------------------------------------------
I met Eliminator1..... I chewed it up, and spat it out. Now, he is my minion.
I kill miners and mission runners people say, I call them target pra |
Devil tiger
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Posted - 2010.05.23 20:05:00 -
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1vs1 Is very much alive but don't expect any fair fights while looking for it. The average PvP'r wants to kill you in any which way he can and that usually means something like t3 vs t1 frig.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.23 20:25:00 -
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1v1's still live, you just have to ask for them. I've never had a 1v1 dishonoured that was agreed to beforehand.
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eliminator2
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.23 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris 1v1's still live, you just have to ask for them. I've never had a 1v1 dishonoured that was agreed to beforehand.
oh what ships do you use frigs cruiser bc bs? -----------------------------------------------
I met Eliminator1..... I chewed it up, and spat it out. Now, he is my minion.
I kill miners and mission runners people say, I call them target pra |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.23 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: eliminator2
Originally by: chatgris 1v1's still live, you just have to ask for them. I've never had a 1v1 dishonoured that was agreed to beforehand.
oh what ships do you use frigs cruiser bc bs?
For 1v1's, just frigs so far. In about 2 months I'll have the skills to feel comfy in cruisers/bc's as well.
Sorry - saw your earlier post about frigates not being your thing :)
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Donny Maurasi
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Posted - 2010.05.23 22:38:00 -
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I don't get a lot of 1v1's but often get 1v2 & 3's ect..ect. Which is fine assuming it's a reasonable fight. I did have a decent Vexor vs Vexor fight last night.
1v1's do get boring after some time, because typically you know going if you can beat the target or not. Some fights can be close, but IMO it's typically more fun to do 1v2 or 3 because then tactics come more into play.
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Slimy Worm
Sons of Viagra
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Posted - 2010.05.23 23:18:00 -
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1v1's are a lot more common in lowsec than nullsec. They're rare, but I don't get ganked/Falconed enough that they're still fun.
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Jan VanRijkdom
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Posted - 2010.05.24 03:52:00 -
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Edited by: Jan VanRijkdom on 24/05/2010 03:52:48 Edited by: Jan VanRijkdom on 24/05/2010 03:52:18 Slimy Worm I see you everywhere lol.
I have just recently been getting into real pvp. And must say its great, very addictive, can be expensive tho. Ive been buying up ships just to pvp fit them out to have ready, from t1 frigs to bc, t2 frig and cruiser. No bs yet.
Ive always pved but was too much of a carebear to pvp.
Glad to say I got over it.
And I also heard the rumor/assertion that 1v1 dont exist. Not true. Ive been ganged up on, ('blobbed' if you count 3 people as a blob), but have also had the opportunity to fight in genuine 1v1 that were honored.
In my experience in null sec, with its organized alliance fleet warfare, any 1v1 are rare and hard to come by.
Lowsec is where the solo action pvp action is, in my limited experience. Its where the 'real' pvp pilots are, the most skilled and ruthless in eve. small groups or solo, its very dangerous, and have historically only gone there to die.
I've racked up a whole 2 kills so far, and lost...more than that. But its worth it. Starting out small/cheap of course.
In short, 1v1s do exist, though it might take you some time to find one. And I am always up for one, its the most fun to be had in eve as an individual player imo.
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Omir Kajil
Gallente The POD Collective
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Posted - 2010.05.24 04:28:00 -
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Edited by: Omir Kajil on 24/05/2010 04:32:40 I'd have to agree 1v1 is definately still alive. Just last week I was in Amarr, asked for a 1v1 and got one. Warped to a planet and jettisoned something cheap and worthless. Went from there.
Granted I lost, but I'm fairly new to pvp.
still new to pvp and I've already lost a few myrms... Well there's the reason right there that I bought and fitted 10 incursus's lol. Cheap fittings. Vs a rifter.... Yeah...
Edit: I should add that if someone is asking for a 1v1 especially in low sec... Follow you're gut instinct. If it doesn't feel right and you ignore that feeling, the system local WILL spike and you WILL get jumped by 5+ ships. But I digress. This one time at fat camp, i was flying a dominix, and then I was so hungry that i ate 3 planets and collapsed into a black hole, which ate my sig. |
Darthewok
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2010.05.24 04:49:00 -
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Edited by: Darthewok on 24/05/2010 04:54:17 sure they exist and are actually quite common and fun.
three simple rules cut down on dishonoring of duels by a lot: 1. never accept 1v1s in local, accept in convo only. sure you can ask if anyone is interested in 1v1 in local, just don't confirm the fight or give details there. cuts down on eavesdroppers gatecrashing. 2. go to a deserted system to duel in or make your opponent follow you to a system a few jumps away so even if he/she has backup they will take time to arrive. this cuts down on dishonoring and also on your opponent getting fleet bonuses. 3. duel at safespots, don't freaking duel at gates!!!! or warpable celestials. fleet with opponent, warp to him/her or opponent to you then drop fleet.
if you follow these 3 rules, you will usually get an uninterrupted 1v1. rule 2 especially. if your opponent is unwilling to go with you 2-3 systems away to duel, it is probably not legit. he/she probably either has fleet bonuses or buddies waiting to gank you.
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Khors
Amtek Inc
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Posted - 2010.05.24 06:37:00 -
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I rarely say no to attacking a target in a belts or wherever I run into them, i usually stay away from arranged 1v1 because I don't trust people though. I rather get blobbed when attacking a bait than dishonoured.
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eliminator2
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.24 07:33:00 -
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nice to know and some good tips from some of you there ^^
i used to roam low-sec still do but recently iv got ganked by 50+ or hotdropped by 6 carriers lol XD
ty for the comments still if anyone wants to contribute they can :D -----------------------------------------------
I met Eliminator1..... I chewed it up, and spat it out. Now, he is my minion.
I kill miners and mission runners people say, I call them target pra |
Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.05.24 16:47:00 -
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1v1 anytime anywhere, fleet up, warp to a safe. Both stay in gang the whole time. Keeps it fair. If in high sec, drop gang to get can aggro real quick.
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Aralieus
Amarr Rising Devils En Garde
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Posted - 2010.05.24 23:22:00 -
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I used to get 1 v 1's all the time in Amarr in mostly BC's. There are some ppl that will fight w/out dishonoring (you know who you are ) and then there are those that will bring in a neutral logi when they realize a n00b w/T1 guns was going to kill there slaved cane(you know who you are) but more often then not I got a legit 1 v 1 w/no bullsh!t. If you do get a invite for one and they dishonor it, add them to address book and put a note in their character sheet tab saying that they dishonored a duel with you and simply never battle them again. I also got some in low-sec, it ultimately just depends on who your dealing with tbh, but I have got some of the best fights I ever had with 1 v 1's so GL in finding a legit one and fight hard, you might surprise yourself.
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Kn1v3s 999
Gallente Gung-Ho Guns
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Posted - 2010.05.26 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kn1v3s 999 on 26/05/2010 12:02:11 I'm a noob myself and i have start to do some pvp, most of the time alone. For my little experience this is what i can say: 1vs1 is still alive but depends on how and where it happens.
If you ask for a duel (typically in high sec) and you jettison some stuff, the worst thing that can happen is that someone with a guardian (or an alt of the same pilot) come to help your enemy repping him.
If you search/hunt for a fight 1vs1 in low sec most of the time you discover that 1vs1 or pvp become more like pvppp+ or 1vs-undefined number of players more than 1- And you suddenly discover that a dramiel need some backup vs an incursus That an HAC is not enough for a cruiser and that drake alone in a belt is a trap.
obviusly it serve all as a learning lesson, but more i fly solo more i need and want to search for a corp to have some mate that can come in help. That's why solo sucks a little bit, because the game mechanic encourage to blob. You got owned several times in your "good fight" so you start searching for more people that can come with you next time. They bring 2, you bring 4 and so on... but this kind of fights are still good, if not the best bet for learn and have fun.
TL;DR:Pure solo pvp for me it's a little tricky, the thing that works better and have more fun in it is a small gang, 2 to 6 pilots.
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.05.26 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 26/05/2010 13:25:30 I rarely (sometimes, yes) get arranged 1v1s, most of the time I just kill more or less everything I run into while soloing if the odds are manageable.
Originally by: Kn1v3s 999 and that drake alone in a belt is a trap.
The drake sitting alone in the belt is very often a trap, the Drake is popular for this for reasons of being quite hard to pop quickly.
Best way to engage it is in a nano-something so you can just gtfo if the blob comes.
Also, rolling around in a small gang doesn't help all that much b/c the same people won't engage you if they spot your gang, since they could get hurt in gang vs gang combat. Sure, you get ganked less, and you get to kill people who blob w/out scouts.
The best antidote vs blobbing is a covops alt for scouting, which fulfills so many utility roles that it's one of the best reasons to get a second account really, and flying nano stuff helps a lot as well.
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MIDI ION
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Posted - 2010.05.26 13:42:00 -
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My take on it is this.... Generally speaking if you find yourself in a 1v1... then somebody screwed up!
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Tom Willson
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Posted - 2010.05.26 13:52:00 -
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Edited by: Tom Willson on 26/05/2010 13:52:44 Arranged 1v1's work fine if you know what ships they are bringing (if they are) so you can get your own buddies to get ready for it and as such score more kills.
It also helps if you got a bit of a faster ship at which point you can freely agree to 1v1's and score some extra kills as long as you keep on your toes, ready to get out if something annoying decloaks to kill your speed (Rapier, Arazu, Falcon + interceptor.)
So in short if my foe doesn't bring extra friends it's all good, he'll die or I'll die. If he brings extra friends I don't mind, I know what I can kill and I know how to kill most things so it usually ends up with more then one kill and me escaping, finger out the side window.
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Concubinia Scarlett
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Posted - 2010.05.26 14:06:00 -
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Only 1v1's I've had for aaages are in lowsec: Probing people in mission / plexs with a high sec status alt and then whizzing over with my pirate main in an appropriate ship and toasting em. You kinda know ur probably gonna win tho, unless something unpredictable happens.
Used to occasionaly plot a random route through 0.0 and whizz through in a ceptor, got a few nice 1v1 kills that way too.
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Xiozor
Sons of Damnation MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.05.26 16:22:00 -
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Edited by: Xiozor on 26/05/2010 16:25:13 I recently had a non-arranged 1v1, my Ishkur vs a Myrmidon, I could out run his guns and I knew going all out he would have to use cap charges to perma rep all my damage meaning eventually he would go down, and I could rep his drone damage. However I could not beat him if he killed all my drones. We played about 20 minutes of kiss-chase with our drones, most of mine were left he only had 3. But disaster struck When I used a cap booster via keyboard shortcut, unwittingly knocking my afterburner off causing my webbed ship to lag behind his just for a moment, meaning his autocannons could finally get hits on me and he killed me with his guns rather quick. ******ed mistake which is a shame because I was pretty confident I could have pulled it off and there is nothing I love more than big game hunting in my little frigates. ----------------------------------------------- Mr.Kippling just launched a nuclear holocaust at third world countries! ... But he does make exceedingly good cakes. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.05.27 00:21:00 -
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It's quite easy that the 1v1 - in case you start winning - becomes you 1 v 1 + RR and eventually 1 v 1 + RR + falcon. IE "1v1 is cool... as long as I don't risk losing. Else plan B comes up". - Auditing & consulting
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Hurtado Soneka
Caldari Costolle Military Assistance Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.27 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: eliminator2 most people in EVE are saying that 1v1's do not exist yet most of us if not all know they do we have been in them we have won and lossed before and yet people are still saying they don't exist.
Sure you get the people that drop logistics on you or blob you half way through but the truth is that 1v1's still exist. and its up to use wether to do a 1v1 or not
so my question is how many of you would actually do a 1v1? of course it depends who you are against im sure but just out of curiosity
They exist, most say they dont because they are the same scared ***got pilot as the one they are trying to gank.
Back in the day, all a man would have to do is call in local 1v1 and they would meet at a belt, nowadays you need to know your foe, been in the same war etc for a while and know he is an honourable opponent who will duel you if you put forward the challenge.
Other than that, never asume your prey will honour anything anymore. |
Darthewok
Caldari Naval Reserve
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Posted - 2010.05.27 06:18:00 -
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Edited by: Darthewok on 27/05/2010 06:25:37 the dumb way to duel: duel in a system where your opponent has numerous corpmates and fleet bonuses in local, get dishonored and post on forums how there is no 1v1s anymore.
the smart way to duel: ask your opponent to meet you at a deserted system nearby and duel there at a safespot. if he/she turns it down, just find another opponent, he/she was probably planning a dishonor. if he/she accepts the fight, you are relatively safe from the opponent using reinforcements, logistics alts, fleet bonuses etc.
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Dimitryy
Gallente Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.27 09:36:00 -
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I solo all the time, usually with no alts scouting repping or gang boosting. Blobs are generally a non-issue, its super easy to avoid them, especially in lowsec.
The only annoying thing about it is sometimes hunting for an appropriate target takes some time, but its still a very engaging form of pvp. ------------------------------------------
Jack Blackstone > Dimitryy I hope you die. |
viper09
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Posted - 2010.05.27 09:47:00 -
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the main problem is that theyre is no honor left in 1 v 1 to me its skills only and how well you fly the ship that means winning or losing hell most 1 v 1s ive had lately always turn into 3 v 1 and that jsut sucks have sum courage to see if you can beat them alone feels alot better than using more ppl
thanxz viper
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.27 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: viper09 the main problem is that theyre is no honor left in 1 v 1 to me its skills only and how well you fly the ship that means winning or losing hell most 1 v 1s ive had lately always turn into 3 v 1 and that jsut sucks have sum courage to see if you can beat them alone feels alot better than using more ppl
thanxz viper
Are they 1v1's mutually agreed to ahead of time, or are they 1v1's where you just happen to stumble across someone you think is alone and it turns out he was just bait?
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