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Makar Kravchenko	Posted - 2010.06.04 06:20:00 - [61] no more iGimmicks pls, kthx
dexington	Posted - 2010.06.04 06:35:00 - [62] Originally by: Honest Nonlabor Now, this is virtualization mirrored off a PC. Is the the geeky way of saying you are using remote desktop or vnc? I use remote desktop alot on my iphone, but not for games. First thing i tryed when i read this thread was to see if i could execute eve using remote desktop. It does not work, which properly have to do with the underlying technology used for multipoint application sharing. Still i would think vnc would work, yes?
Honest Nonlabor R E D E M P T I O N Black Star Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.04 06:57:00 - [63] Edited by: Honest Nonlabor on 04/06/2010 06:58:18 Edited by: Honest Nonlabor on 04/06/2010 06:57:38 Originally by: dexington Originally by: Honest Nonlabor Now, this is virtualization mirrored off a PC. Is the the geeky way of saying you are using remote desktop or vnc? I use remote desktop alot on my iphone, but not for games. First thing i tryed when i read this thread was to see if i could execute eve using remote desktop. It does not work, which properly have to do with the underlying technology used for multipoint application sharing. Still i would think vnc would work, yes? A true VNC client? Ohhhh hell no. Ive already tried that route, every which way, and it just WILL NOT do anything more than 8 bit color at 5fps or less. Its a bandwidth thing. A virtualization/Remote Desktop setup like PhoneMYPC is funny, in that it it basic (and over simplified but it works) records your screen, converts it to the equivalent of a mpg movie, and then streams THAT. It then gimmicks in mouse and process, and window controls. Its far more efficient a method but it DEFINITELY benefits from 1. A powerful phone 2. A custom optimized ROM and 3. Overclocking. Im sure other people have it working as well also, but has nobody else posted a thread on a how-to or a simplified explanation? If not ill write up a post tomorrow after work.
Xylopia Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.06.04 07:32:00 - [64] Unless every average Joe and his dog comes to iPad and makes killing off of it, CCP won't come. So don't even bother. If you look CCP's product profile, you'll notice they are not in hurry to hop in some uncharted territory in a matter of, say, a couple of years. Rather, what CCP excels is to find a niche and brings to appeal to broader audience base, and they keep focusing on strengthening their ability to do exactly so. Not a bad idea at all in fact.
BIZZAROSTORMY	Posted - 2010.06.04 08:33:00 - [65] Confirming Eve on Ipad over vnc - but best used for skill changing or market stuffs. Dont undock in low or null sec or u will die.
Erik Prince	Posted - 2010.06.19 08:19:00 - [66] Edited by: Erik Prince on 19/06/2010 08:20:29 Originally by: BIZZAROSTORMY Confirming Eve on Ipad over vnc - but best used for skill changing or market stuffs. Dont undock in low or null sec or u will die. Please tell me how you got that to work? Is there a basic guide to setting that up? I am googling vnc as I write this, but as of now, I dont even know what that is. . . . Okay, now I know that much.... I just want to be able to change skills and do PI updates. What VNC app do you use, and can you do it remotely over wifi?
Aodha Khan Minmatar Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.	Posted - 2010.06.19 08:31:00 - [67] Originally by: BIZZAROSTORMY Confirming Eve on Ipad over vnc - but best used for skill changing or market stuffs. Dont undock in low or null sec or u will die. Why not just go to your PC in the first place. Power is not something that is granted - it is something to be taken. Join channel Sani Sabik
Mara Cowan	Posted - 2010.06.19 09:47:00 - [68] Originally by: Aodha Khan Originally by: BIZZAROSTORMY Confirming Eve on Ipad over vnc - but best used for skill changing or market stuffs. Dont undock in low or null sec or u will die. Why not just go to your PC in the first place. Because you are 10 miles from your computer? You are in another state and cant just install EVE on someone's computer... you are at school/work and want to check in on your manufacturing jobs. . .
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.06.19 10:29:00 - [69] Originally by: Mara Cowan Originally by: Aodha Khan Originally by: BIZZAROSTORMY Confirming Eve on Ipad over vnc - but best used for skill changing or market stuffs. Dont undock in low or null sec or u will die. Why not just go to your PC in the first place. Because you are 10 miles from your computer? You are in another state and cant just install EVE on someone's computer... you are at school/work and want to check in on your manufacturing jobs. . . If possible copy the entire EVE client you have installed to an USB stick and play it from there. Works perfectly fine, copied my EVE installation to external drive without actually installing, runs with no problems. Apply \| Sigs
dexington	Posted - 2010.06.19 10:41:00 - [70] Originally by: Aodha Khan Why not just go to your PC in the first place. Why not live the dream and stay in bed? Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist

Aesynil Caldari The Unit...	Posted - 2010.06.19 11:38:00 - [71] Originally by: Dan O'Connor Originally by: Mara Cowan Originally by: Aodha Khan Originally by: BIZZAROSTORMY Confirming Eve on Ipad over vnc - but best used for skill changing or market stuffs. Dont undock in low or null sec or u will die. Why not just go to your PC in the first place. Because you are 10 miles from your computer? You are in another state and cant just install EVE on someone's computer... you are at school/work and want to check in on your manufacturing jobs. . . If possible copy the entire EVE client you have installed to an USB stick and play it from there. Works perfectly fine, copied my EVE installation to external drive without actually installing, runs with no problems. ...It cannot. Cannot. Be that simple. Because if it were, I would facepalm. I really, genuinely would. My guess would be, however, that this would not work at school computers that are more or less on lockdown, with 0 privileges given to the user? Or on networks with high levels of control on them? The Unit pursues invention, manufacturing, mining, and research. Evemail us if you need anything related to Science and Industry.
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.06.19 11:44:00 - [72] Edited by: Dan O''Connor on 19/06/2010 11:45:00 Originally by: Aesynil ...It cannot. Cannot. Be that simple. Because if it were, I would facepalm. I really, genuinely would. Well I am running my main and alt from an USB drive. No issues. At all. Need pics? Time for you to facepalm buddy. Apply \| Sigs
1Ekrid1	Posted - 2010.06.19 12:02:00 - [73] Originally by: Michael Kuiper Edited by: Michael Kuiper on 27/05/2010 15:52:59 Edited by: Michael Kuiper on 27/05/2010 15:52:19 Everytime someone post this "idea" about making eve run on an apple tablet device, i wonder to myself, "are some people really this computer illiterate?" Im not going to even go into any amount of depth concerning the lack of specific hardware support that would make the feat of eve running on an ipad possible. But let me just say this, there are cell phones which have a higher screen resolution, faster cpu, and more ram than apples new "toy". Now maybe real tablet device... that might be another story. But that wouldnt require any new eve client at all. edit, spelling. if only because Eve's coe is bloated and ugly, lcks any coherent spport of any hardware, and works with only a few crashes at best on the best systems. There's 1, repeat 1, frigate in the T1 lineup designed to be a suicide tackler. the rest are for COMBAT. so don't tell me to tackle when I'm in a combat T1 frig. OR tell CCP to fix their mess.
1Ekrid1	Posted - 2010.06.19 12:07:00 - [74] Edited by: 1Ekrid1 on 19/06/2010 12:09:25 Edited by: 1Ekrid1 on 19/06/2010 12:08:20 Originally by: Michael Kuiper Edited by: Michael Kuiper on 27/05/2010 15:52:59 Edited by: Michael Kuiper on 27/05/2010 15:52:19 Everytime someone post this "idea" about making eve run on an apple tablet device, i wonder to myself, "are some people really this computer illiterate?" Im not going to even go into any amount of depth concerning the lack of specific hardware support that would make the feat of eve running on an ipad possible. But let me just say this, there are cell phones which have a higher screen resolution, faster cpu, and more ram than apples new "toy". Now maybe real tablet device... that might be another story. But that wouldnt require any new eve client at all. edit, spelling. if only because Eve's code is bloated and ugly, lacks any coherent spport of any hardware, and works with only a few crashes at best on the best systems. Originally by: Karlemgne Edited by: Karlemgne on 03/06/2010 05:51:46 The iPad hate I find to be rather humorous. Seriously, you hate the idea of this device soooo **ing much there are some of would be prepared to do the ultimate whine--threaten to cancel your accounts if any type of workable client is developed by CCP for the device. Even if its just to change skills and browse the market. Talk about fanboi behavior, and I am not even sure what type of fanboi you are. Apple hatred fanboizm? And yes, I own an iPad. It is the first piece of apple hardware I have purchased in 7 years. And yes I build my own PCs (the fact that these have to come in as disclaimers when discussing Apple products in these conversations says it all). Why did I buy it? I bought it because I am academic and I needed a tablet like device. I don't want a ing netbook, before you say anything, I want something in this form to deal with what I do professionally and I didn't want to wait for the Microsoft Courier (nor get an actual tablet PC). The device does its job for me, is heavily supported, and looks like it will remain so. That the device has sold 2 million units cannot be chalked up to pure fanboi Apple fans and testifies to the fact that it will continue to be supported despite your collective whiny iPad **fests and protestations. I called Foanboyism from the start. Let me rephrase their replies "But I love my Eve the way it is, obscure and hard to get working right even on a good PC (I'll forgo acknowledging that MACs are PCs too in reality), Im so in ove with CCP and bill gates that I can't imagine not paying for something that was coded in 2000 and still works like a wonky pile of garbage. IF you even think about asking for support for other systms, or god forbid, asking for bugs to be worked out so that eve at least runs smoothly on all the hardware it claims to support, Ill QQ so hard my accounts will explode". /fin There's 1, repeat 1, frigate in the T1 lineup designed to be a suicide tackler. the rest are for COMBAT. so don't tell me to tackle when I'm in a combat T1 frig. OR tell CCP to fix their mess.
dexington	Posted - 2010.06.19 12:12:00 - [75] Originally by: 1Ekrid1 if only because Eve's code is bloated and ugly, lacks any coherent spport of any hardware, and works with only a few crashes at best on the best systems. lol.. love how you use any chance to whine about how you can't get EVE running on your mac :) it's not the software that's the problem. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist
1Ekrid1	Posted - 2010.06.19 12:13:00 - [76] Edited by: 1Ekrid1 on 19/06/2010 12:14:25 Originally by: dexington Originally by: 1Ekrid1 if only because Eve's code is bloated and ugly, lacks any coherent spport of any hardware, and works with only a few crashes at best on the best systems. lol.. love how you use any chance to whine about how you can't get EVE running on your mac :) it's not the software that's the problem. ignorance to level 5, I see, fanboy. lets see if I can put it this way. A company that claims support but offers **** al, is not a company you want to deal with. people get sued for running companies like that. There's 1, repeat 1, frigate in the T1 lineup designed to be a suicide tackler. the rest are for COMBAT. so don't tell me to tackle when I'm in a combat T1 frig. OR tell CCP to fix their mess.
dexington	Posted - 2010.06.19 12:22:00 - [77] Originally by: 1Ekrid1 lets see if I can put it this way. A company that claims support but offers **** al, is not a company you want to deal with. people get sued for running companies like that. I see you are one angry little boy. Can you show me on the bear where the bad man touched you? Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist
Serpents smile	Posted - 2010.06.19 12:31:00 - [78] Originally by: 1Ekrid1 Edited by: 1Ekrid1 on 19/06/2010 12:14:25 Originally by: dexington Originally by: 1Ekrid1 if only because Eve's code is bloated and ugly, lacks any coherent spport of any hardware, and works with only a few crashes at best on the best systems. lol.. love how you use any chance to whine about how you can't get EVE running on your mac :) it's not the software that's the problem. ignorance to level 5, I see, fanboy. lets see if I can put it this way. A company that claims support but offers **** al, is not a company you want to deal with. people get sued for running companies like that. Works fine on my MacPro, which is from 2006, though it had a new vid card today because the old one burned out, and I've been steadily playing EVE on 2 accounts since Nov 2007. There were bad times, badder times and plain awful times but today I'm pretty happy with the current client. Since you run it on minimal required specced hardware, do you have every setting set to lowest, with interval at 1?
Aodha Khan Minmatar Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.	Posted - 2010.06.22 07:42:00 - [79] Originally by: dexington Originally by: Aodha Khan Why not just go to your PC in the first place. Why not live the dream and stay in bed? I got better things to do in bed. Power is not something that is granted - it is something to be taken. Join channel Sani Sabik
Flynn Fetladral BlackSite Prophecy	Posted - 2010.06.22 09:23:00 - [80] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFAzpfXOsp0 This is about as close as you will get... Helga is viewing EVE Gate on an iPad.

Real Poison Minmatar Stormlord Battleforce Vanguard.	Posted - 2010.06.22 09:30:00 - [81] i could think of an web-app (so ipad, iphone, droid, whatever can use it) for PI. double tapping extractors is prolly much less straining than double clicking them by the dozens. but yeah tbh, i'd be among the first to script that planet views should have a carpal tunnel syndrome warning. i foresee ccp being sued for eve-caused health issues :P
Anna Grahm Caldari	Posted - 2010.06.22 11:08:00 - [82] So many haters. iPad is a fantastic device and neither it nor Apple is going anywhere fast. While Apple gobbles up market share, market cap and puts Apple devices everywhere do feel free to spread FUD about how "crappy" they are because surely Apple's continually increasing stock price means they are simply doing poorly. I love my iPhone, iPad, MacBook Pro, Mac Mini Server, Airport Extreme, 2 Airport Express. But, I might be an ignorant fangirl that buys anything Steve Jobs tells her to. Or, I might be an intelligent consumer that does research before making a purchase. Flame on. Would love Eve on the iPad, bring it on. I am NOT an alt!
Simeon Tor	Posted - 2010.06.22 11:24:00 - [83] I for one simply love the new iFail GimmickPad, it has everything I could possibly want from an overpriced teatray!
Opertone Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.06.22 11:30:00 - [84] Develop EVEmon and eve fitting app for those who own Ipad, it would be quite an achievement, also eve themed screen saver. Do not develop eve for Wii, Sony or Tetris.
Gordon Fell	Posted - 2010.06.22 11:57:00 - [85] Native iPads can do something like TeamViewer (works on iPhone here, can do market stuff perfectly; possibly more on iPad due to a more powerful CPU). If you jailbreak it, well, infinite possibilities.
Digital Solaris	Posted - 2010.06.22 12:28:00 - [86] Edited by: Digital Solaris on 22/06/2010 12:29:11 Personally, I don't see the appeal with the iPad as such devices existed long before and what Apple has done really is just another re-iteration on existing concepts. However, on to the subject, I don't think EVE should be ported to iPad as a) an extremely limited market b) limited hardware c) very time consuming. To all iPad owners, do enjoy your expensive digital photo frame. In time you'll get bored and wish you had spent the money on something more intelligent.
stoicfaux	Posted - 2010.06.22 14:36:00 - [87] Meh. Five hundred plus dollars for a portable email reader (use a crackberry instead) and web browser (with a small screen and touch keyboard) seems to be a waste. Instead of shelling out $$ for an iPad, I'd buy an SSD for my laptop computer or my wife's MacBook. Having a really fast boot time, a decent sized keyboard, and much larger screen would be more convenient than an iPad, IMO. Personally, I'm expecting (and waiting) for electronic paper to do what the iPad does. ----- "Are you a sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic with accounting skills? We have the game for you! -- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Machiavelli, and PvP"
dexington	Posted - 2010.06.22 15:47:00 - [88] Originally by: Gordon Fell If you jailbreak it, well, infinite possibilities. Not really, even on jail broken devices you would still need to connect to a windows hodt running the eve client. The options for accessing an directx application running on a windows host, seems at the moment to be the same for jail broken and non jail borken devices. This may change in the future, but as it stand now the possibilities are the same.
Kewso	Posted - 2010.06.22 15:51:00 - [89] Btw iDevices now do multitasking, as of yesterday iOS 4 released giving iPhone and iPod touch multitasking,folders and bunch of all new stuff iPad gets 4.0 in couple months and gets multitasking and everything iPod touch and iPhone got yesterday I use vnc on my iPod touch to hop in eve and swap skills, trade, etc
ArmagedonLT Amarr Resonance. RED.OverLord	Posted - 2010.06.22 16:58:00 - [90] Edited by: ArmagedonLT on 22/06/2010 17:01:20 http://www.rustylime.com/pictures/4004.jpeg GUYS GUYS, IPAD IS THE FUTURE! IT IS A REVOLUTIONARY DEVICE! oh wait... rofl



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