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Primus Danubius
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Posted - 2010.05.30 14:34:00 -
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Playing Eve since more than 3 months, my wife and me conclude:
If Agent missions have this high probability for LowSec, especially storyline missions, as we found out, we feel free to say, that Tyrannis is nothing for us, so we think about leaving Eve.
We also want to mention, that we loved this game and we loved making missions, but only in HighSec, because it will take us years, before we have the skills for LowSec and if we had this skills, we would not like to go there, because we want some kind of Fairness in everey game we play.
The version before Tyrannis enabled fair agent missions, this is gone.
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Widemouth Deepthroat
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Posted - 2010.05.30 14:37:00 -
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act like a grown man and go try low sec instead of cry on forum and suckle at your wife's teat like a baby in high sec.
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Musical Fist
Gallente
The Unknown Bar and Pub
Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.30 14:39:00 -
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Years you say, hmm I created an account in Jan wasnt meant to be PvP and has limited PvP skills and still owns.
Contact me in game and send me all your stuff when you are ready to accept 'Playing eve for missions only' is dumb you will be allowed to collect your items.
Mustical Fist
CFO Of Leaving Eve
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.30 14:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Widemouth Deepthroat
act like a grown man and go try low sec instead of cry on forum and suckle at your wife's teat like a baby in high sec.
Hey, you forgot to add "NoBrains" to your name. If you have nothing constructive to say then just STFU.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.05.30 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Primus Danubius
it will take us years, before we have the skills for LowSec
Nope.
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The version before Tyrannis enabled fair agent missions, this is gone.
Nope. Quite the opposite: it was unfairly disposed towards certain systems and for certain factions. Now it's fair for all.
Not doing what you want it to do ≠ unfair (or wellą most 5-year-olds would disagree).
Not doing the same thing to everyone = unfair.
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JCache
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.30 14:44:00 -
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As long as PVE requires different fittings than PVP low sec for missions is out of the question.
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Mr CMOT
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Posted - 2010.05.30 14:45:00 -
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Or you could stop doing missions with an agent living right next to a low sec system.
I know what you are going to say: "but that agent is so good and I want his better rewards"
my answer: risk/reward
eve is not an easy no brainers game, but if you take the time to learn your way, there will always be options for you.
ALOT of agents live in clusters of only high sec, where even the neighbour clusters are high sec only, But those agents is usually lower qualty.
So eve do have a "safe" mode it just gives lower rewards.
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Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar
Conflagration.
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Posted - 2010.05.30 14:48:00 -
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Seriously.. If you'd leave now all that you would accomplish is wasting your time with other games that would get you bored. Then you would come back to EVE with less skill, less ISK and most important of ALL LESS EXPERIENCE.
So, unless you are planning on not playing anything else game-wise at all.... I suggest you and your wife socialize with other players, so that you can get into a nice Corporation.
There is so much more than L4 hisec missioning that you can (probably) already do with other ppl.
Try finding a Corp that is working on a quiet Losec and go there, youll be glad. Just be careful while you learning.
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Primus Danubius
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Posted - 2010.05.30 14:49:00 -
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So Your answers are: This game is unfair and probably only for some kind of home anarchists
You do not see, that a lot of Eve-players think, as we think and love this game, because it has many options to go.
So, if gameplay-architects lower the options, the game becomes a more simple and oneway-game.
If You like this direction, Tyrannis is a milestone:)
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.05.30 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Serpents smile on 30/05/2010 14:51:08
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The version before Tyrannis enabled fair agent missions, this is gone.
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Nope. Quite the opposite: it was unfairly disposed towards certain systems and for certain factions. Now it's fair for all.
And that is what is wrong!
EVE != fair
One day, one expansion they'll go too far homogenizing EVE.     
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2010.05.30 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Primus Danubius
Playing Eve since more than 3 months, my wife and me conclude:
If Agent missions have this high probability for LowSec, especially storyline missions, as we found out, we feel free to say, that Tyrannis is nothing for us, so we think about leaving Eve.
We also want to mention, that we loved this game and we loved making missions, but only in HighSec, because it will take us years, before we have the skills for LowSec and if we had this skills, we would not like to go there, because we want some kind of Fairness in everey game we play.
The version before Tyrannis enabled fair agent missions, this is gone.
Act like a grown man.
Your wife must have a poor sex with you.
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Goose99
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Posted - 2010.05.30 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Mr CMOT
Or you could stop doing missions with an agent living right next to a low sec system.
I know what you are going to say: "but that agent is so good and I want his better rewards"
my answer: risk/reward
eve is not an easy no brainers game, but if you take the time to learn your way, there will always be options for you.
ALOT of agents live in clusters of only high sec, where even the neighbour clusters are high sec only, But those agents is usually lower qualty.
So eve do have a "safe" mode it just gives lower rewards.
This is actually false. As is, highsec agents neighboring lowsec is worthless. It's a matter of choosing between deep highsec (little risk, little reward) and deep lowsec (medium risk, high reward), instead of border (high risk, low rewards). Border agents give crap LP and gates between high and low secs are more likely to be camped, making it more risky than deep lowsec.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Primus Danubius
If Agent missions have this high probability for LowSec, especially storyline missions, as we found out, we feel free to say, that Tyrannis is nothing for us, so we think about leaving Eve.
Sig is related then.
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Ferdio Ricotez
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:08:00 -
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Planets in W-Space give you more than 3x as much yield as planets in hisec. I assume planets in low- and nullsec have increased deposits as well. It's much more profitable to colonize low/nullsec, but also much more risky. As it should be. Risk vs. reward, that's what EVE is all about, and Tyrannis is no different.
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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
Monks of War.
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Primus Danubius
Playing Eve since more than 3 months, my wife and me conclude:
If Agent missions have this high probability for LowSec, especially storyline missions, as we found out, we feel free to say, that Tyrannis is nothing for us, so we think about leaving Eve.
We also want to mention, that we loved this game and we loved making missions, but only in HighSec, because it will take us years, before we have the skills for LowSec and if we had this skills, we would not like to go there, because we want some kind of Fairness in everey game we play.
The version before Tyrannis enabled fair agent missions, this is gone.
Fairness starts right when someone's actually able to kill you and/or prevent you from farming.
That's not the skills you lack to go to low-sec, but something else. Those usually come in a pair.
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JCache
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Fon Revedhort
That's not the skills you lack to go to low-sec, but something else. Those usually come in a pair.
Morons who follow him to low sec to guard him while he is playing PVE? 
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Donny Maurasi
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:35:00 -
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I hear it's all high sec and sunny days in Hello Kitty Online. Perhaps that's a better suited game for you?
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Ryhss
Caldari
Victory Fleet Systems
C.H.A.L.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Musical Fist
ready to accept 'Playing eve for missions only' is dumb you will be allowed to collect your items.
Mustical Fist
CFO Of Leaving Eve
It's not dumb. It's a FiretrUCKING sandbox. So, my way is just as right as your pvp way. I'm not saying pvp is bad, I just don't prefer it. I have fun missioning, I just wish there was a better variety. I take part in wars if decced etc. Or if some pilot flips a can. I just don't "seek out" fights. I could go to low or null, but I don't want to play the politics game. Have fun, fly safe, blow crap up!
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Goose99
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ferdio Ricotez
Planets in W-Space give you more than 3x as much yield as planets in hisec. I assume planets in low- and nullsec have increased deposits as well. It's much more profitable to colonize low/nullsec, but also much more risky. As it should be. Risk vs. reward, that's what EVE is all about, and Tyrannis is no different.
For null, yes, for lowsec, the increase is tiny, and not worth bothering with.
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Fearless M0F0
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:38:00 -
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First, lowsec is not as bad as you think, the sec hit for aggressing is pretty high and not many will risk it.
I have camped a lowsec entry points hoping some blinky show up and aggro, even in a hauler (obvious bait is obvious  ). I've seen all kinds of traffic through and nobody bothered to even target me .
On the other hand, there was an entry in preliminary patch notes mentioning highsec agent will never send you to lowsec but it dissapeared from the final patch notes, not sure what happened, maybe some pirate whining convinced CCP to remove this "feature" 
Bottom line, make a quick business calculation of risk/reward. Fit a lowsec only battleship with t1 stuff. Yes it will take you longer and may get you ganked, the question is: do you still get enough rewards out if it?
Shameless plug: join rvb for a couple weeks, lose some frigs in our fleet fights. You will realize dieing is not so bad after all
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Teh Kraken> RAWR
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Kephael
Caldari
SERENDIPITY INC
R-I-P
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:39:00 -
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Move to a different agent that is not close to low sec.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: JCache
As long as PVE requires different fittings than PVP low sec for missions is out of the question.
If they're working as a pair, then PVP fits with minimal modification should be just fine.
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Goose99
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Goose99 on 30/05/2010 15:43:30
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: JCache
As long as PVE requires different fittings than PVP low sec for missions is out of the question.
If they're working as a pair, then PVP fits with minimal modification should be just fine.
/excuse
Like buffer blasterboats with a rep? If it doesn't fail so hard ppl would've done it already.
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente
NME1
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Primus Danubius
So, if gameplay-architects lower the options, the game becomes a more simple and oneway-game.
If You like this direction, Tyrannis is a milestone:)
Tyrannis added MORE carebear content than almost any other expansion since POS were introduced, and very little if any PvP content.
-- Nah, that's just my Asperger's kickin' in.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 30/05/2010 15:54:44
Originally by: Ferdio Ricotez
Planets in W-Space give you more than 3x as much yield as planets in hisec. I assume planets in low- and nullsec have increased deposits as well. It's much more profitable to colonize low/nullsec, but also much more risky. As it should be. Risk vs. reward, that's what EVE is all about, and Tyrannis is no different.
There is no risk/reward in most of 0.0. The vast majority is a hugfest with less violence than your average hisec system. You can fly around for days in those large sprawling sovs unchallenged, which is why they've made it so you can't use planets in someone elses sov. The fantasy and the reality of risk/reward in this game don't match up. There's also very little risk in sitting on a gate in lowsec with a bunch of friends shooting fish in a barrel, or preying on poor fools in PvE fits trying to do a mission there.
CCP needs to take a good hard look at their game, and question alot of the things they believe about it. They should know by now that dropping more isk into the laps of 0.0 dwellers doesn't lure more people into 0.0, it just further entrenches those alliances already established, and makes it harder for any new ones to compete.
My deepest sympathies.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Tyrannis added MORE carebear content than almost any other expansion since POS were introduced, and very little if any PvP content.
To my mind, it was somewhat required.
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mkmin
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: mkmin on 30/05/2010 15:56:48
Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Originally by: Primus Danubius
So, if gameplay-architects lower the options, the game becomes a more simple and oneway-game.
If You like this direction, Tyrannis is a milestone:)
Tyrannis added MORE carebear content than almost any other expansion since POS were introduced, and very little if any PvP content.
I'm sorry but not even the carebears want the crap that came with tyr. Only people who want any of it are noobs who don't know what it really means.
*EDIT: tyr was all about marketing. Make some noise to get some noobs excited and start new subs. Make sure they have to pay $ to use all the PI skills even if they are just rank 1 skills.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:55:00 -
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Honestly min/maxers can **** off.
"oh noes im only getting 3500 lp instead of 5k".
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari
NailorTech Industries
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.30 15:55:00 -
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Your stuff? Also may i request you ask your wife to give me her stuff too. thanks!
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.30 16:14:00 -
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Actually thats a great idea, my wife plays. Give her your wifes stuff and me yours.
kkthxggnore.
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