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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.01 17:22:00 -
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Can confirm they dropped the hammer on Sisi before shutting it down.
Broken P4 parts ftw. Didn't get a chance to check the BPO requirements before closing.
If fix stays same (or could get worse), reprocessing REAA and CSJ to make structures will not be viable. Those who jumped on first couple of days will make good money, those holding random P4 bits may lose plenty.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.01 20:12:00 -
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My feeling is that when they do a mini patch (maybe tomorrow, they keep dropping Sisi) some changes will be made, and looking at history (and Sisi), here's what I predict.
1. Current manufacturing jobs to be unaffected 2. ALL POS structures currently in people's hangars or on market will only reprocess to broken parts 3. All P4 mats will become broken version, which melt into 10,000 Tritanium btw. 4. When main patch is delivered removal of POS structures from market so the prices will adjust accordingly and reprocessing will be switched back on.
If you have any P4 mats you should either make something or sell up before a mini-nerf.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.02 01:17:00 -
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On Sisi now POS structures CAN'T be reprocessed.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.02 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Valeri - P4 parts were converted to "broken" parts. - No reprocessing possible any more on pos mods, nano-paste. - NPC prices are still the same for pos mods (I think CCP thinks prices will drop below NPC sell orders due to PI). - Current builds even with "exploited" stuff are still running.
So basically the guys who got in this first are in bonus. Somehow that feels wrong for a fix (but more power to you, ofc).
It also looks like that all the sell orders for P4 materials moved to broken sell orders. Anyone who had any P4 mats they all suddenly become worth about 27,000 ISK each (every broken P4 mat reprocesses into 10K Trit).
Winners: Anyone who reprocessed the POS structures and either sold their mats or made something
Losers: Anyone holding P4 materials before downtime today.
As predicted on MD.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.02 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: chevelle57 Whether you took place in this ômarket opportunityö on not you have to look at the bigger picture of what CCPÆs decision will entail in the future.
If CCP didnÆt want you to be able to reprocess Pos mods they would have kept the reprocessing values prior to Tyranis IE. A few iso or nox for each mod. Since the values were changed it can be inferred that reprocessing pos mods worked as intended.
Next is the value of NPC POS mods. CCP sets the values, we as players can only undercut them. There is no way for us to manipulate NPC orders in any meaningful way.
So if there was a differential of price v. reprocessed value it is one that CCP put into the game. If players use this price differential to generate a profit, good for them for doing their homework.
There is one main issue with CCP deciding to Nerf all of the ôill-gotten good.ö And that is the reasoning behind the decision. As per CCP Chronotis ôFor those of you looking forward to Planetary Interaction on June 8th, do not worry as these issues will be cleaned up and appropriate measures will be taken to ensure there will be a viable market for you.ö
In other words he is saying that CCP has decided the price point that all PI items should be at vs. allowing the market to find the price by its self. They felt that with the amount of good received via reprocessing was going to lower the price under what they felt was an acceptable level.
My response to that is since when have they felt the need to micro manage the price of items on the market. The precedence that this sets is that next time a dev looks at the market and decides cap ships are to cheap are they going to turn all cap BPOÆs into 5 run copies to increase the production cost?
CCP you stepped across a line with this decision and have decline to make any type of public statement other then a few short responses buried in a 700+ post thread. The only reason I can think of for this is the 3 **** throwing monkeys that you have managing your devs all managed to get pink eye at the same time and can't make it in to the office.
Well when you feel like it is time to stop the poop play and start answering questions IÆll be eagerly awaiting you response
Nope.
CCP originally planned to stop NPC sell orders at the same time planetry interaction became live. If that had happenned successfully no one would have done any reprocessing as the players would have set the market. It is just a case of CCP mistakenly changing the dates things go live and forgetting to change the database also.
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