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Dogs Breath
Caldari Shadow Company Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2010.06.05 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas
Originally by: Dogs Breath
Originally by: Noobjuice Just think, if Molle had paid PL to attack the NC, and perhaps lead the campaign. Game over man is all I'm sayin.
What, just like the way you defended your space?
I think if you're having to use a one sided battle in a dead node to win your argument you're starting off on the wrong foot. Where you should be starting is pointing out that IT haven't actually captured a region by combat yet.
Oh wait.. that's the opposite of what you're trying to say.
LMAO,
I see were your going with this.
If you wish to save space then thats ok with me, but you too were unable to defend your space and the floor with your argument is that neither region was taken in a day.
least we forget, you could only take delve after using non PVP mechanics to loose BOB sov and then needed a super blob to do it.
is this what you mean by PVP?
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Shade Millith
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.06.05 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Millith on 05/06/2010 14:25:39
Originally by: Mya ElleTerego This war wasn't serious from the beginning it was more of a slap fight and a way to pry some tech moons off the NC. I asked molle before we went at the SC meeting, if this was a serious war for space or not and the answer was no.
For most of the SC maybe, but from what I gather is that this was serious for Molle. He didn't want space, but wanted to break up the NC
Quote: What have we learned from this? A. Dominion ruined sov / epic warfare. B. Lag sucks and CCP is fixing it like BP is fixing our oil leak in the states. C. Making a racial r32 moon the main t2 bottleneck was ******ed and further broke eve. D. Blowing up spaceships encourages fleet participation, while sitting at login does not. E. Going in half assed against the Nc and doing it 5 jumps from tribute is a mistake and wont be alot of fun.
Agreed on all points.
And the fights where lag DIDN'T rear it's head were generally good. Far too many jump ins and "Oh look, I'm not loading system, I can chat in the systems local, I can see who's in it, I'm receiving damage, but I can't do ****" ------------------------
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Skilo
Caldari the muppets Muppets Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Mya ElleTerego (...) B. Lag sucks and CCP is fixing it like BP is fixing our oil leak in the states. (...)
This
By far the best defination of lag and CCP work i've read
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Sextus Licinius
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.05 14:46:00 -
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NC won, we gonna stay a bit more like a target hatchery for the NC shooting pleasure. After we learn to play EVE-online we gonna make another move on your space
"These people that we've wasted today are the finest human beings ever. When we'll rotate back in the world, we gonna miss not having anyone worth shooting...
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Ghaylenty
Gallente Kiss My Assets Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.06.05 14:47:00 -
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as a resubbed player in a NC corp, i must say the level of organization showed by NC surprised me. when sh*t hit the fan and H-W looked like it might have been lost, everyone banded together for a common purpose. we put our egos and differences aside for the good of our own space.
i saw that kind of attitude displayed circa 2005 when eve was "more serious" as one poster put it. it is very refreshing to see how some people still strive for excellence in a time where many do not.
but we should not also forget the SC. as much as they 'failed', they also succeeded. if this were true politics, nobody would ever fight anybody for fear of real aggression... which is what a lot of 0.0 has turned into over the years with eve. Carebears protecting carebears... but SC showed us that although the odds were stacked against them, and they had no real desire or expectation of victory, you can still have a hell of a good time in EVE despite the naysaying about the current state of the game.
And for that, they should be applauded. But for future reference, stay the hell out of my space. Thanks. :)
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Musical Fist
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:44:00 -
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Props to IT for winning, RIP NC
Even though the OP is full of **** anyway and Razor just disbanded hohoho -- Emo TraderJohn's Number 1 Fan!! |
Snot Shot
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: sodney
Originally by: Snot Shot
Originally by: Noobjuice Just think, if Molle had paid PL to attack the NC, and perhaps lead the campaign. Game over man is all I'm sayin.
But NC would have been home so the Playtex risk free peeveepee would not have been very effective......that is unless you were planning on doing the no one in local trick for the whole campaign?..
You call IT fail but they booted you out of Fountain and killed 5 of your titans........or did I miss some hidden code in what you were sayin above....
Shooting 5 black screened titans takes so much skill :P Now before you repost with a bunch of bull**** I'm not saying they are or aren't skilled, but using that as some sort of flagship argument in terms of how good they are is stupid. (though clearly the northern invasion is going swimmingly)
There are plently of flagship arguments but the tactical decision to jump in 5 Titans to die in a fire was pretty "leet" no?.... Playtex huff and puff about how great they are but the end result is they got tossed out of a region like a flaming bag of dog **** that they are...
Saying that Playtex could have changed the outcome of the fight up north had they sided with SC is further evidence that Noobspoo has no idea what he is talking about. He would have actually had to fight instead of the gank and hide, gank and hide tactics that they do or shoot stuff when no one is around...
Their "leet" tactics are now boiled down to:
1) Own no space so we don't need to defend anything and no one can say we "lost" anymore fights.. 2) Keep supercaps logged in NPC space at all times unless risk free peeveepee is a gurantee... 3) Camp cyno gens like Privateers do at Jita 4-4... 4) Pettition CCP before any fight if the opposition looks like they might win the fight and are better prepared.. 5) Cheat and use game exploits to have our complete fleet composition not show up in local... 6) Stay butthurt over getting tossed out of Fountain.... 7) Risk free peeveepee....
Welp.....looks like that might cover Playtex SOP for the foreseable future.. . Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot
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Tehel Necrona
Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:09:00 -
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That was very gracious of IT to let NC win
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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:12:00 -
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SetrakDark
Caldari Northstar Cabal OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 17:38:00 -
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It's not over until ROL goes home. They were the only people doing anything anyway. Sneaky ****ing Russians.
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Launch TehMudkipz
Gallente Chaos Rendering STR8NGE BREW
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Snot Shot
Originally by: sodney
Originally by: Snot Shot
Originally by: Noobjuice Just think, if Molle had paid PL to attack the NC, and perhaps lead the campaign. Game over man is all I'm sayin.
But NC would have been home so the Playtex risk free peeveepee would not have been very effective......that is unless you were planning on doing the no one in local trick for the whole campaign?..
You call IT fail but they booted you out of Fountain and killed 5 of your titans........or did I miss some hidden code in what you were sayin above....
Shooting 5 black screened titans takes so much skill :P Now before you repost with a bunch of bull**** I'm not saying they are or aren't skilled, but using that as some sort of flagship argument in terms of how good they are is stupid. (though clearly the northern invasion is going swimmingly)
There are plently of flagship arguments but the tactical decision to jump in 5 Titans to die in a fire was pretty "leet" no?.... Playtex huff and puff about how great they are but the end result is they got tossed out of a region like a flaming bag of dog **** that they are...
Saying that Playtex could have changed the outcome of the fight up north had they sided with SC is further evidence that Noobspoo has no idea what he is talking about. He would have actually had to fight instead of the gank and hide, gank and hide tactics that they do or shoot stuff when no one is around...
Their "leet" tactics are now boiled down to:
1) Own no space so we don't need to defend anything and no one can say we "lost" anymore fights.. 2) Keep supercaps logged in NPC space at all times unless risk free peeveepee is a gurantee... 3) Camp cyno gens like Privateers do at Jita 4-4... 4) Pettition CCP before any fight if the opposition looks like they might win the fight and are better prepared.. 5) Cheat and use game exploits to have our complete fleet composition not show up in local... 6) Stay butthurt over getting tossed out of Fountain.... 7) Risk free peeveepee....
Welp.....looks like that might cover Playtex SOP for the foreseable future.. .
I saw snot shot in delve, he was in a rifter, he ran when he saw me in a phoon. I think he went back to ~Jita~
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Elendar
Amarr North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Launch TehMudkipz
I saw snot shot in delve, he was in a rifter, he ran when he saw me in a phoon. I think he went back to ~Jita~
Actually he went to 1-smeb were he watched us appear magically in local and engage in some risk free pvp (fighting an IT gang that only had a 110 vs 80 numbers advantage).
After we killed 70 of them for 5 losses he responded by war deccing us. I think he might be slightly mad.
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Hatsumi Kobayashi
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Snot Shot Playtex
Have some respect for the ovaries. _____
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Omeega
Amarr Lethal Corp RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.05 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: SetrakDark It's not over until ROL goes home. They were the only people doing anything anyway. Sneaky ****ing Russians.
We won't go home, feythabolis is a useless region filled up by macroers :( (we can't even get proper citizens lol)
As long as we can...
- get ****d by 2:1 and less numbers - trade a few caps for some supercaps (see definition "to nync a cap") - lose titans in belts - make some interesting tactical moves due to some drunk D00M/NBBL FCs learning russian and ordering half the fleet in russian to jump in, and the rest of the fleet to get the **** out due to a massive blob on the other side
... I'm prolly sure our metal tycoon sugar daddy will be OK to sell his house for new ships.
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Snot Shot
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.05 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Elendar
Originally by: Launch TehMudkipz
I saw snot shot in delve, he was in a rifter, he ran when he saw me in a phoon. I think he went back to ~Jita~
Actually he went to 1-smeb were he watched us appear magically in local and engage in some risk free pvp (fighting an IT gang that only had a 110 vs 80 numbers advantage).
After we killed 70 of them for 5 losses he responded by war deccing us. I think he might be slightly mad.
......yes that was some IT fleet you took on there.. Looked to me like the IT USTZ cleaned out there closets of every ship they wanted to lose and headed to 1-Smed.. You were really out gunned there wtf..
Anywho.....I got my first Playtex kill that fight and wiped out most of the Playtex drones that were on the SBU you were pvping against... Also tanked most of your fleet that tried to gank me.. Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot
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Hubris
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.05 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Snot Shot I have a sandy va-jay-jay
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Somal Thundir
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.05 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Hubris
Originally by: Snot Shot I have a sandy va-jay-jay
Hubris u sux
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.06 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Snot Shot
Anywho.....I got my first Playtex kill that fight and wiped out most of the Playtex drones that were on the SBU you were pvping against... Also tanked most of your fleet that tried to gank me..
Then you woke up, and posted some **** --- Witness epic fleet battles in Dominion
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Snot Shot
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.06 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Snot Shot
Anywho.....I got my first Playtex kill that fight and wiped out most of the Playtex drones that were on the SBU you were pvping against... Also tanked most of your fleet that tried to gank me..
Then you woke up, and posted some ****
Ahh....thats right you were not there!! I was looking for you in local so I could shove a bomb down your yap but rumor has it you called in scared that fight.. Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot
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Romulus XII
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.06 04:09:00 -
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Clowns live in tents or crappy trailers, except those traitors from Cirque du Soleil.
Dont know no fortress
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IronGoldenEagle
Caldari The New Era C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2010.06.06 05:10:00 -
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But...but... they were making so much progress with the tech moons?!?! They get to keep those right?
(and lol at the we didn't want that invasion anyway posts) __________________________________
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Svett
Caldari The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.06 05:22:00 -
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Welcome to last week.
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari 24th Imperial Guard
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Posted - 2010.06.06 06:16:00 -
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Molle's Butthurt episode two is over ? :D
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Flashh Gorden
Caldari COLD-Wing
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Posted - 2010.06.06 12:40:00 -
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OK enough of this rubbish about it not being a serious war from the start. This war was all about breaking up the NC and nothing short of that. The problem was, IT and friends took the war seriously but not their foes.
The SC still writes the north off as carebears and considers its self far superior to the north in combat.
Having a cap fleet caught and destroyed in low sec before it even reaches the north in the opening days of the war is a prime example of this misguided attitude. The NC defence was pro active in High sec low sec and 00 from the first days of the war.
The old BOB would never of been so careless but those days are gone. AS for -A- we knew outside of Providence they dont have the stomach for a serious fight.
All the big Fish in the south that can really hurt each other, are Blue or avoid each other how they can consider them selves better than anyone in the north is beyond me.
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Snot Shot
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.06 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Flashh Gorden OK enough of this rubbish about it not being a serious war from the start. This war was all about breaking up the NC and nothing short of that. The problem was, IT and friends took the war seriously but not their foes.
Define seriously for us here. If they were as serious as you seem to be implying then they would have all showed up together as planned instead of weeks and months appart.. It was always about the pew pew and nothing more from the way I saw it. I think you are just trying to fluff a limp argument to get more out..
Originally by: Flashh Gorden The SC still writes the north off as carebears and considers its self far superior to the north in combat.
Having a cap fleet caught and destroyed in low sec before it even reaches the north in the opening days of the war is a prime example of this misguided attitude. The NC defence was pro active in High sec low sec and 00 from the first days of the war. The old BOB would never of been so careless but those days are gone.
Whats easier than sitting in the known systems an Alliance is going to use to caravan themselves 50 jumps to destination... I'm in Privateers and even I know camping the route when an Alliance is trying to move is like shooting fish in a barrel....but by all means keep fluffing...
Originally by: Flashh Gorden AS for -A- we knew outside of Providence they dont have the stomach for a serious fight..
They just got through with a month long slugfest with Proviblob and then had to hit the road and slug it out against all of the NC... Yeah thats easy.....stomach vs. wtf we have been fighting for ever we want a mental break..
Originally by: Flashh Gorden All the big Fish in the south that can really hurt each other, are Blue or avoid each other how they can consider them selves better than anyone in the north is beyond me.
Look at their kbs now smart guy.....they are shooting eachother...
You need to buy a clue......come to Jita 4-4 I will hook you up with one.. Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.06 19:02:00 -
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I must say there's an interesting trend to all this, if you look at recent 'major' conflicts.
Supposed carebears NC put up a great fight against SC and co - able to defend well Supposed carebears CVA put up a great fight against UK and co - defended well and took ages to dislodge them. Supposed elite PVP alliance PL folded within a matter of days against IT, winning no engagements.
Hrrrm. Curious...
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Captain Thunk
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.06 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops
Supposed elite PVP alliance PL folded within a matter of days against IT, winning no engagements.
You're being too kind, it was actually a few hours.
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iosoti
Amarr Astral Community Enterprises Rogue Elements.
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Posted - 2010.06.06 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops
Supposed elite PVP alliance PL folded within a matter of days against IT, winning no engagements. Hrrrm. Curious...
PL doesn't need space to make TRILLIONS of isk.
~~~~ They aren't your version of mercenaries ~~~~
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.06 22:24:00 -
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Edited by: General Windypops on 06/06/2010 22:27:19
Originally by: iosoti
Originally by: General Windypops
Supposed elite PVP alliance PL folded within a matter of days against IT, winning no engagements. Hrrrm. Curious...
PL doesn't need space to make TRILLIONS of isk.
~~~~ They aren't your version of mercenaries ~~~~
True, but most people think that their exploits of moon mechanics will be stamped out with the next patch, and they had those trillions of isk when IT trashed them faster than any other recent alliance has folded. The fact that they had those trillions of isk makes the fact that they folded faster than any other alliance even more laughablr
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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iosoti
Amarr Astral Community Enterprises Rogue Elements.
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Posted - 2010.06.06 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 06/06/2010 22:27:19
Originally by: iosoti
Originally by: General Windypops
Supposed elite PVP alliance PL folded within a matter of days against IT, winning no engagements. Hrrrm. Curious...
PL doesn't need space to make TRILLIONS of isk.
~~~~ They aren't your version of mercenaries ~~~~
True
Indeed
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