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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2010.06.10 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: sp3cial forc3s Edited by: sp3cial forc3s on 10/06/2010 11:47:09 Fuc-king Yanks and there puffter massively over padded sports!!!
NO PADDING OR HELMETS ALLOWED!!!!!
I see your rugby and raise you Australian Rules Football.
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.10 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: brutoid on 10/06/2010 16:48:51 Edited by: brutoid on 10/06/2010 16:47:42 Edited by: brutoid on 10/06/2010 16:46:39
Originally by: Slade Trillgon No, but you have two more tries left.
Slade
"The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) records that the first written use of the word football used to describe a game was in 1424 in an Act forbidding it. The first written use of the word football to describe the ball was 1486, and that the first use as a verb (hence footballing) was in 1599. For the etymology, the OED just indicates it is a compound of foot and ball.
Although it is widely assumed that the word football, or "foot ball", originated in reference to the action of a foot kicking a ball, this MAY be a false etymology. The historical explanation has it that the word originally referred to a variety of games in medieval Europe, which were played on foot.[3] These sports were usually played by peasants, as opposed to the horse-riding sports more often enjoyed by aristocrats. This explanation is supported by the fact that the word football has always implied a wide variety of games played on foot, not just those that revolved around kicking a ball. In some cases, the word has been applied to games which involved carrying a ball and specifically banned kicking. For example, the English writer William Hone, writing in 1825 or 1826, quotes the social commentator Sir Frederick Morton Eden, regarding a game ù which Hone refers to as "Foot-Ball" ù played in the parish of Scone, Perthshire:"
Might i also add this:
"Where English is a first language the unqualified use of the word football is used to refer to the most popular code of football in that region"
Which is what our banter was all about 
Football
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.06.10 18:48:00 -
[93]
So I was trolling on the internet and I found this.
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.10 19:23:00 -
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lol. Gay ref is extremely gay! 
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.10 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: brutoid
Although it is widely assumed that the word football, or "foot ball", originated in reference to the action of a foot kicking a ball, this MAY be a false etymology.
The historical explanation has it that the word originally referred to a variety of games in medieval Europe, which were played on foot.
Exactly. If you speak to most individuals with a concentration in the foundations of physical education and sport, this is what most will say. It just so happens that over the evolution of the English language and sport, that since Internationl Footbal had the most conatact between the foot and the ball, the usage of the term football became isolated to mean just International footbal. Which in turn required that other sports played on the foot need to have new names generated.
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.10 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon It just so happens that over the evolution of the English language and sport, that since Internationl Footbal had the most contact between the foot and the ball, the usage of the term football became isolated to mean just International footbal. Which in turn required that other sports played on the foot needed to have new names generated.
EDIT: Can not watch Gay Ref since no flash updates on the work computer and no administrators privileges
Slade
Indeed, but its hardly isolated, it is the worlds most played sport, it also uses both the foot and the ball consistantly over the entire games length, that it was almost certainly inevitable even all those hundreds of years ago, that the terminology that the planet chooses to use as the 'real' meaning of 'football' to be the one most played. To the point that most countries don't even use their own language to describe the game but still use variations of the English word 'football'.
It therefore becomes even more apparent that 'American football' should have been called something completely different, maybe like 'American Throw Not Round Ball', or something like that? 
Gay Ref is ace!! 
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.06.11 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: The AEther Edited by: The AEther on 10/06/2010 11:21:36
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu OH GOD I'M INJURED! OH THE PAIN, THE UNIMAGINABLE PAIN! *rolls around on turf clutching own shin, crying* I'M CRIPPLED!
yes, **** tends to happen when your body isn't all covered up by polycarbonate alloys and steel - that is kind of obvious
Originally by: Astenion ... Imagine full-contact soccer; people getting pushed and shoved and punched and kicked, all without penalties and all without the whining and crying. It'd kill every sport known to man; it's got the dexterity and quickness and agility of soccer with the intensity of rugby and American football. ...
it sounds like what you really need is gladiatorial games
Again with the pads? Oh yeah, I forgot...you've never played so you really don't know. Typical. How many times must it be said? They're not there to keep it from hurting, they're there to keep you from dying. You don't hit people the same way in football as you do in rugby...the game is played in a completely different way.
I don't need gladiatorial games; I need soccer to stop being a sport full of pussies.
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.11 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion I need soccer to stop being a sport full of pussies.
Its not though. There are cheats, there's a difference.
Those players that are rolling around after what looked to be due to a shot from a sniper etc, they're not really injured or in pain, they're playing the referee. This is a problem in football for sure, but not down to whether the players prefere wearing their wives underwear or not.
Until camera replays are used in football to the extent they are in American football or even Rugby then the players will always walk that fine line of gamesmanship because it will award the team with an advantage, its human nature to win at all costs as i'm sure you'll agree?
American football players wear pads for protection, it can be a brutal game so the necessity is definately there. Football for the same reason of protection is a non-contact sport in the sense that there are ways within the sport to tackle safely otherwise its far too easy to break legs and end careers.
And that is why its easy to get a player sent off by feigning a bad injury = instant advantage = problem with football.
Bring on the camera replays.
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.06.11 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
Sounds like a plan. I'm not saying at all that people should be allowed to clothesline people, just loosen the rules with the contact. If someone trips you, that's not a penalty. If someone punches you, then yeah, that's a penalty.
However, I agree with your idea with running people's asses into the ground. For every dive you take, that's an hour of sprints at practice or you just sit on the bench for the rest of the match and the following match. Also, a little public humiliation wouldn't hurt, either. Is he faking it? Ok, then he gets punched by every single person on the team. That's how it's done in football. Be a man or go home.
Did you ever notice that the vast majority of dives,regardless if they're justified or not,happen close to or even within the goalie area,so that the player gets a chance to have either a free kick,or even better yet,a penalty shot against the opposing team....Assuming the referee buys into the offending players dive as genuine of course...
So in the end,it all about wanting to score a goal and winning the game,not just to dive for ****s and giggles,though cases like those do happen fairly often....Portugal's ronaldo was renown for it in his early years for diving left,right and center,even though he is one of the best players out there,but he seems to have matured quite aa bit in the last couple of years and doesn't do that nearly as often as he used to.
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VinLieger
Caldari Kraken Heads
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Posted - 2010.06.11 10:24:00 -
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The simple reason most americans dont like football is because they cant just immediately declare themselves the best at the sport since the rest of the world actually play it professionally. Also ive a sneaking suspicion they get confused when playing other sides cus it requires a bit of geographical knowledge for them to figure out who they are playing. -----------------------
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.06.11 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: VinLieger The simple reason most americans dont like football is because they cant just immediately declare themselves the best at the sport since the rest of the world actually play it professionally. Also ive a sneaking suspicion they get confused when playing other sides cus it requires a bit of geographical knowledge for them to figure out who they are playing.
Yes, that's exactly it. I live in Europe and am forced to watch soccer every Sunday, yet I don't know how to find Germany on a map.
We don't like soccer because it's boring, simplistic, and full of people who fake injuries.
For the guy who said that it's a sport not full of pussies, but full of people who fake injuries. I hate to break this to you, but in any sport where someone actually fakes an injury, they're considered pussies. Also, the sport itself doesn't really do anything to combat that, which is largely construed as half-condoning it. If you play a sport where faking an injury can actually help your team, you're playing a girl's sport.
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ChaeDoc II
Gallente Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.11 14:35:00 -
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I know it's Italy but Mussolini died years ago, you're not "forced" to watch anything.
Stop saying you're forced to watch football, it doesn't make you seem oppressed, it just makes you seem like a moaning little *****.
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Viral Effect
Caldari BRAINDEAD Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.11 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
Don't kill the messenger. Your football is a girl's sport played by whiny, girlish men who cry way too much and are completely bereft of any masculinity. It's boring, simplistic, lacks any sort of strategy that's not completely elementary, and over-hyped. You can rant and rave all you want, but that doesn't change that fact. You seem to forget that I live in Europe and have to watch this travesty you call a sport every Sunday.
Go to any pub in Britain and say that. Personally I would rather walk up to a lion and whip its ass with a towel. At least with the lion I might be in with a chance of not being lunch.
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Mister Gimp
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Posted - 2010.06.11 15:34:00 -
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Sport is just war for the weak and cowardly.
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Lancard
Endless Destruction Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2010.06.11 18:30:00 -
[105]
Yaaaaaaaa, go America!!!
Anyone know what if anything else more exciting will be on tv Saturday?
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digitalwanderer
Gallente DF0 incorporated
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Posted - 2010.06.11 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: digitalwanderer on 11/06/2010 19:07:47
 Originally by: Astenion Edited by: Astenion on 11/06/2010 14:14:04
Yes, that's exactly it. I live in Europe and am forced to watch soccer every Sunday, yet I don't know how to find Germany on a map.
We don't like soccer because it's boring, simplistic, and full of people who fake injuries.
For the guy who said that it's a sport not full of pussies, but full of people who fake injuries...I hate to break this to you, but in any sport where someone actually fakes an injury, they're considered pussies. Also, the sport itself doesn't really do anything to combat that, which is largely construed as half-condoning it. If you play a sport where faking an injury can actually help your team, you're playing a girl's sport.
Yet,when the world cup comes around,such as it is the case right now in soulth africa,there's 2+ billion people around the world seeing the event,and the only other event that actually exceeds that number,are the summer olympics,which are also organized every 4 years,so it's the kind of numbers that NHL + NFL + MLB + NBA,even when combined,would kill for,and truly warrants the name "World championship".
For the sport to be referred as a girls sport,i don't think they'd have 2+ billion viewers world wide when these big events come around,just me though...
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.06.12 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: ChaeDoc II I know it's Italy but Mussolini died years ago, you're not "forced" to watch anything.
Stop saying you're forced to watch football, it doesn't make you seem oppressed, it just makes you seem like a moaning little *****.
No no, you don't understand. I really am forced to watch it every Sunday...dinner with the family. I can't change the channel. 
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.06.12 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: digitalwanderer Edited by: digitalwanderer on 11/06/2010 19:07:47
 Originally by: Astenion Edited by: Astenion on 11/06/2010 14:14:04
Yes, that's exactly it. I live in Europe and am forced to watch soccer every Sunday, yet I don't know how to find Germany on a map.
We don't like soccer because it's boring, simplistic, and full of people who fake injuries.
For the guy who said that it's a sport not full of pussies, but full of people who fake injuries...I hate to break this to you, but in any sport where someone actually fakes an injury, they're considered pussies. Also, the sport itself doesn't really do anything to combat that, which is largely construed as half-condoning it. If you play a sport where faking an injury can actually help your team, you're playing a girl's sport.
Yet,when the world cup comes around,such as it is the case right now in soulth africa,there's 2+ billion people around the world seeing the event,and the only other event that actually exceeds that number,are the summer olympics,which are also organized every 4 years,so it's the kind of numbers that NHL + NFL + MLB + NBA,even when combined,would kill for,and truly warrants the name "World championship".
For the sport to be referred as a girls sport,i don't think they'd have 2+ billion viewers world wide when these big events come around,just me though...
That just means that 2 billion viewers like girly sports. 
*Waits to see who loses their mind over this one*
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.06.12 12:57:00 -
[109]
And yet, for some unknown reason, they're not showing the US/England match today on tv, so I can't watch England pound us into dust on the field. Let me know how it turns out...
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.06.12 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Viral Effect
Originally by: Astenion
Don't kill the messenger. Your football is a girl's sport played by whiny, girlish men who cry way too much and are completely bereft of any masculinity. It's boring, simplistic, lacks any sort of strategy that's not completely elementary, and over-hyped. You can rant and rave all you want, but that doesn't change that fact. You seem to forget that I live in Europe and have to watch this travesty you call a sport every Sunday.
Go to any pub in Britain and say that. Personally I would rather walk up to a lion and whip its ass with a towel. At least with the lion I might be in with a chance of not being lunch.
I didn't say the fans are pussies; if anything, they're the most entertaining thing about a match! The players should be watching the fans!
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Donna Tirith
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.12 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion Slade, as far as injuries go, I'm not saying they don't exist in soccer; rather, there are too many people FAKING injuries. In other sports, if you roll around on the ground because you tripped and fell, you're own team will kick your ass because you're just being a *****. I'm not saying people don't get injured in soccer, just that they whine and cry and roll around on the ground, and then miraculously 2 minutes later they're back on the field. In soccer, people really do get their legs broken, ankles broken, nose and cheekbones broken, etc. Just getting hit in the face with the ball hurts like hell. The fact is, however, it's not a rough sport and the rules err so much on the side of caution that players must play the game like little girls, always whining and pointing fingers. Actually girl's soccer in the US is WAY more rough than men's. Vehemently defending soccer as a man's game is laughable at best.
People get concussions from playing in the back yard. You paint soccer to be this rough and tough sport when it's absolutely not. The numbers are steep for soccer injuries, and gee, I wonder why? Could it be that it's the most popular sport in the entire world with hundreds of millions of people playing it every single day? Simple math can tell you that the more people play a sport, the higher the statistics for injuries. How many countries play American football? Two? Canada and the US, right? Now how many countries have soccer as their national sport? Let's also look at the injuries. Broken ankles, broken legs, broken noses vs legs being entirely twisted around 180 degrees and even death. Let's not get into a ****ing match by claiming one is more "manly" because one has more injuries; I was being facetious when I said it's because people were diving, causing concussions, btw.
Again, I'm not saying one is better than the other; I'm merely pointing out the fact that the intensity BEHIND the game is much, much stronger than the game itself. Do away with the girly rules, do away with the whining and crying, and have players start acting like grown men instead of little girls and you'll have a nice spectator sport. Until then, it's just overgrown kids crying because they hurt der wittle knee.
At least you were able to recon that American(?) men are to soft for soccer and use consistant the term girly for "to rough for (American ?) men" What I don't get is how you can consider something a sport at all where the players have to hope to physically hurt the oposing players.
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.06.12 18:18:00 -
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I'm simply poking the bear a little bit, playing Devil's Advocate; harmless, light teasing at the worst.
To answer your question, Rugby, Aussie Rules, and American Football tend to separate the men from the boys. The boys usually end up playing soccer. 
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Donna Tirith
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.12 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion I'm simply poking the bear a little bit, playing Devil's Advocate; harmless, light teasing at the worst.
To answer your question, Rugby, Aussie Rules, and American Football tend to separate the men from the boys. The boys usually end up playing soccer. 
Impressive. Not many ppl have the insight to even consider boys superior to men.
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Lemming akoya
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Posted - 2010.06.12 18:37:00 -
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im sorry, 1-0 to england already 
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Florio
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.06.12 18:39:00 -
[115]
I'm speechless at ITV HD cutting out for 30 seconds during which time England scored. ITV are gonna get so much hate for that.
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Bodrul
Caldari Polaris Rising The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.06.12 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: Bodrul on 12/06/2010 18:50:12
Originally by: Florio I'm speechless at ITV HD cutting out for 30 seconds during which time England scored. ITV are gonna get so much hate for that.
watching it on normal ITV that was a sweet goal
edit Yanks screwed up lol
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Tallaran Kouros
Caldari Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.06.12 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Florio I'm speechless at ITV HD cutting out for 30 seconds during which time England scored. ITV are gonna get so much hate for that.
Yeah, that was annoying.
At least it didn't cut out when the keeper fumbled and let the ball roll over the line though ;)
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Sidewayzracer
Caldari Corax. New Eden Retail Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.12 19:37:00 -
[118]
i would like to add...
BAWAHAHAHAHA epic failkeeper
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Sanka Cofie
Amarr Fractured Core
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Posted - 2010.06.12 22:17:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Sidewayzracer i would like to add...
BAWAHAHAHAHA epic failkeeper
...maybe the ball was a little slick? ...maybe he had oil on his gloves? ...maybe he should rub some british petroleum jelly on his gloves. It will make them sticky so he doesn't spill the next one.
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DeWieKat
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.06.12 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: DeWieKat on 12/06/2010 22:31:30 us team was real lucky with that green-maneuver today. BUT, after 1-1 they stood their ground, while brits were trying to score like bunch of old ladies, only rooney was the one who at least tried to make a dffference, and whats with all those desperate fouls and yellow cards?
grats usa.
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