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Cpt Branko Retired Pirate Club	Posted - 2010.06.25 11:48:00 - [31] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 25/06/2010 11:50:24 The easiest way to kill it provided it doesn't have a scout alt is to just camp the gate with enough instalocking artillery and it's dead once they get a lock (instantly). Also a ton of ships have very good odds of soloing a Vaga. The nanodays are gone, nowdays the Vaga has **** agility which makes it fairly easy to catch. Biggest problem is getting one to engage really. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Alsyth Night Warder	Posted - 2010.06.25 14:03:00 - [32] A (2x) nano Drake with 2 webs and a disruptor can kill one if he tries to engage. Which is the hard thing... Faction webs or interdiction manoeuver makes it really easy. Faction disruptor or interdiction manoeuver on his side makes it harder. If you can't catch him because he is too careful/fast/agile, then use precision scourge, he won't like it. Depending on his fit/speed, faction are sometimes better.
W0wbagger	Posted - 2010.06.25 14:18:00 - [33] Originally by: Zekk Pacus Generally any recon (except Falcon/Rook obviously) is capable of pinning it down. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=9702309 No one expects a scram web blaster falcon :)
DONJUAN v Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.06.25 20:28:00 - [34] Originally by: Yuddhisthira Originally by: DONJUAN v we were talking about bc a vaga would attack.... i dont see why you would go inside 10km of a brutix myrm...in a vaga was saying they are potential targets of a vaga cuz they cant do much outside web range The Myrmidon can't do much outside web range? What are you smoking, and did you bring enough to share with the class? thanks for having rock solid arguments plz explain what your uber myrm will do to someone outside your web/scram range im here to learn from the best , that seems to be you
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2010.06.25 21:34:00 - [35] Originally by: DONJUAN v plz explain what your uber myrm will do to someone outside your web/scram range im here to learn from the best , that seems to be you Some Myrm pilots actually bring drones with them, and they have the drone bay to ensure you lose the drone war. Furthermore, even a mediocre Myrm fit will tank all the damage your Vagabond can put out without problems for as long as it takes its drones to obliterate you 5 times.
Molly Milli0ns	Posted - 2010.06.26 17:28:00 - [36] this thread features some p terrible posting. there's more ways to kill vagas than there are ways to not kill vagas. be creative.
Krennel Darius Caldari Nova Security Systems	Posted - 2010.06.26 21:18:00 - [37] Best way to kill a Vaga _________________________________________________ If at first you don't succeed, you're not Chuck Norris
Lt banaan	Posted - 2010.06.26 22:11:00 - [38] i fly a vagabond aswell, only time i lost one was by landing in a buble and had 2 rapiers and arazu on me. Other then that the vaga eats ceptors for breakfast, u need a decent ship to counter it, actualy a cynabal can win it fairly easy. Someone mentioned a curse but the vaga kills a curse before cap is down if ur capable of flying a vagabond that is.
Amarr Supremacist	Posted - 2010.06.27 05:57:00 - [39] Originally by: Lt banaan Someone mentioned a curse but the vaga kills a curse before cap is down if ur capable of flying a vagabond that is. Quoting incompetence. ____________ HYDRA Reloaded - 2nd place at Alliance Tournament 8 EVE-Arena is awesome!
Riven Varlass	Posted - 2010.06.28 17:33:00 - [40] Originally by: Lt banaan i fly a vagabond aswell, only time i lost one was by landing in a buble and had 2 rapiers and arazu on me. Other then that the vaga eats ceptors for breakfast, u need a decent ship to counter it, actualy a cynabal can win it fairly easy. Someone mentioned a curse but the vaga kills a curse before cap is down if ur capable of flying a vagabond that is. A Vagabonds capacitor lasts for x2 cycles with x2 Neuts, id like to see the vaga that eats my 16k shields in that short amount of time. I am very very certain no vagabond will shoot down my Curse, not a single one has engaged me either, I take that as a "I concur" from the respective pilots.

DONJUAN v Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.06.28 17:41:00 - [41] Originally by: Omara Otawan Originally by: DONJUAN v plz explain what your uber myrm will do to someone outside your web/scram range im here to learn from the best , that seems to be you Some Myrm pilots actually bring drones with them, and they have the drone bay to ensure you lose the drone war. Furthermore, even a mediocre Myrm fit will tank all the damage your Vagabond can put out without problems for as long as it takes its drones to obliterate you 5 times. true it probly can tank the vaga for ever as for your uber drone bay OBLITERATING 5 TIMES a vaga i dont think were using the same drones , because those that actualy can follow the vaga in orbite will be far from OBLITERATING him
Pascal Almaric Perkone	Posted - 2010.06.29 11:37:00 - [42] Out of interest, would you Vaga pilots out there go after a Cyclone?
Shade Millith Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.06.29 13:46:00 - [43] Originally by: Pascal Almaric Out of interest, would you Vaga pilots out there go after a Cyclone? I'm not a vaga pilot, but I'd say it'd be a toss up, PVP cyclone is known to be VERY quick, and can have a serious active tank, and as such is usually scram fitted. Scram + tank + quick = Dangrous to a vaga On the other hand they're not often used as PVP ships, and often get a bad rep being a tier 1 BC So it'd really depend on the vaga pilot. ------------------------
druid 99	Posted - 2010.06.29 14:21:00 - [44] vagas are fast but low on cap 1v1 no amar ship can keep one pined down unless the vaga pilot comes within scram range so maby a nub vaga pilot in his firt time flyin one curse is the most effective ship v vaga if the vaga hangs around he will lose i suggest in amar not takeing on a vaga solo team up with someone cynabals are basicly the same but if you do eve get a vaga pilot come with scram rage id want my ashammu scram web bonus plus nuets and damage love that ship
Millie Clode Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.06.29 14:55:00 - [45] 1.Scram Vaga 2.????? 3.Profit! ---------- Who, me?
Raimo Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.06.29 15:04:00 - [46] Originally by: Millie Clode 1.Scram Vaga 2.????? 3.Profit! Picard.jpg ---------- www.eve-arena.com
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.06.29 15:24:00 - [47] Originally by: Pascal Almaric Out of interest, would you Vaga pilots out there go after a Cyclone? Im sure most of them will try. While cyclone is pretty fast for bc, its 2 times slower than vaga, so you shouldnt get caught by cyclone if you know what are you doing /i.e not flying like approach button addict/. It also doesnt have canes dps at range /its usually fitted with 3x gyros or 2x gyros and 1x te, + hams/. Problem is, active tanked cyclone can most likely tank you till you cap out yourself by mwding /and if its good pilot he will force you to mwd, he will burn away and then overheat straight towards you etc./.
Scorpionidae	Posted - 2010.06.29 15:43:00 - [48] I'm no exspert but wouldn't an Ashimmu be a good project for this task?
Roemy Schneider Vanishing Point.	Posted - 2010.06.29 18:08:00 - [49] scimitar - putting the gist back into logistics
Pascal Almaric Perkone	Posted - 2010.06.30 11:41:00 - [50] Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 Originally by: Pascal Almaric Out of interest, would you Vaga pilots out there go after a Cyclone? Im sure most of them will try. So in the OP's case, setting up to catch a Vaga, maybe some sort of "Q-Ship" Cyclone acting like a ratter could be worth a try. Some nano, a faction scram, pills and implants, command ship elsewhere with ganglinks for agility and scram range... Do you think that would be worth a go?

Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.06.30 13:30:00 - [51] Originally by: Pascal Almaric Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 Originally by: Pascal Almaric Out of interest, would you Vaga pilots out there go after a Cyclone? Im sure most of them will try. So in the OP's case, setting up to catch a Vaga, maybe some sort of "Q-Ship" Cyclone acting like a ratter could be worth a try. Some nano, a faction scram, pills and implants, command ship elsewhere with ganglinks for agility and scram range... Do you think that would be worth a go? Only things that will decide if you can get him or not are yours and his piloting skils. Boosting command ship, faction scram etc. are ofc BIG advantages.
EMO JAck	Posted - 2010.07.01 05:58:00 - [52] Just fit a tracking disruptor with a range script. Forces them in close or something with a **** load of damps. Once there in close I am sure you can figure out what to do with those scrams and webs.
foksieloy Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.07.01 07:32:00 - [53] Edited by: foksieloy on 01/07/2010 07:32:30 Originally by: EMO JAck Just fit a tracking disruptor with a range script. They just warp out or something, with a ** load of damps you get the same thing. Once they are jumping into another system to catch something easier I am sure you can figure out how to spin your ship in station cause you are not getting any pvp from that vagabond today**. Fixed it for you. _______________________ Drink Eau du Nichup«, the taste of heaven. Now available as Nichup Citrus« as well!
odama jasonsson Caldari Reverberation Inc	Posted - 2010.07.01 21:55:00 - [54] We got one by doing the following: warp in with a nano hurricane (just basically a bigger vaga) and start to fight. Have a neut ship (curse) stand by at the other end of the gate or somewhere safespotted. If everything fails (good vaga or bad tracking on your side) or your shield is at 25% the vaga will proly be so focussed on killing you he doesnt notice the curse warping in..... Let the curse neut him Now its your turn to circle him at a few kilometres a second ^^
JunkYardJimmy	Posted - 2010.07.02 00:35:00 - [55] Damp/neut fitted pilgrim. You will have to try and get him to engage though, thats the hard bit.
Kal Shakai Appetite 4 Destruction	Posted - 2010.07.02 01:44:00 - [56] Originally by: Roemy Schneider scimitar One of the best tricks in the book for a lot of ships, not just the vaga.
Smk56	Posted - 2010.07.02 07:17:00 - [57] A Cynabal.
Concubinia Scarlett	Posted - 2010.07.02 15:59:00 - [58] Originally by: EMO JAck Just fit a tracking disruptor with a range script. Dont see that a tracking disruptor w/range script would cause a vaga any problems tbh. IIRC (And its entirely possible I don't ) the scripted TD only reduces optimal, and does nothing to falloff = doesn't bother a vaga? I keep meaning to fit a vaga with a cap booster instead of the second LSE and go play with a curse, see what happens.
Cartheron Crust Krazny Oktyabr Revolyutsiya	Posted - 2010.07.02 16:50:00 - [59] Originally by: Concubinia Scarlett Originally by: EMO JAck Just fit a tracking disruptor with a range script. Dont see that a tracking disruptor w/range script would cause a vaga any problems tbh. IIRC (And its entirely possible I don't ) the scripted TD only reduces optimal, and does nothing to falloff = doesn't bother a vaga? I keep meaning to fit a vaga with a cap booster instead of the second LSE and go play with a curse, see what happens. Tracking disruptor will affect falloff aswell as optimal.
Princess Nexxala Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2010.07.04 01:17:00 - [60] Originally by: Smk56 A Cynabal. This



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