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Apoctasy The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.06.23 21:23:00 - [1] im testing yo __________________________________________ [url=http://jerks.machine9.net?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=40901] [/url]
Blazie	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:28:00 - [2] Thanks a bunch for all your hard work, i can't imagine the last 30 or so hours have been plesant, but I look forward to a faster server when you're done.
Forluhn Amarr Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:29:00 - [3] Better than I can do All your base are belong to Amarr
Sir JonWolf	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:29:00 - [4] Originally by: Blazie Thanks a bunch for all your hard work, i can't imagine the last 30 or so hours have been plesant, but I look forward to a faster server when you're done. here Hear
N0A Caldari	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:31:00 - [5] As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one.
Ladrien	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:32:00 - [6] Atlast! Not a whine (with bread) thread. And yes, to move a server that big takes some time so goodjob ccp.
Ms Kat	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:33:00 - [7] Edited by: Ms Kat on 24/06/2010 15:32:58 taking bets eve will be jsut as laggy as before edit due to spazzy finger typing
Belid Hagen Shade. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:33:00 - [8] Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. they didnt replace the servers, so there was no way to test the "new" setup before everything had been moved there.
Sylvie Yseult	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:33:00 - [9] Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. As a CEO of Fortune 500 company, I'd say it's time for you to look for another job. One that doesn't involve complicated activities, like familiarizing yourself with facts before making outrageous suggestions.
Vak'ran	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:34:00 - [10] 1up You guys earned a beer tonight! Vak'Ran is your local official non-dedicated part-time advocate of reading comprehension and proliferation of intelligence on the EVE Online Forum
NastyFecker	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:35:00 - [11] Yeahhh..At last a thread without the **s whining and complaining about CCP So what we have extended DT and how quickly ppl ask for reimbursement..How quickly they forget all the days when the normal DT of 1 hr only lasts 10 or so minutes.. Maybe CCP should ask all the whining **s for extra $$$ for the short DTs hahahah Well done CCP.Not an easy task you are undertaking.. Cheers Nasty
Scopex Novita	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:36:00 - [12] Man the facebook rage was unbelievable.
xAlexVladx	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:37:00 - [13] loool what a kissass thread. why dont you use your daddy's credit cards to donate 2500$ each to CCP right now ?
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:37:00 - [14] Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. WTS : Clue Feel free to buy it, alternatively grow a brain before poasting again. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Wamja	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:38:00 - [15] Yeah thanks for aggregating your gear; I sure have hopes for smoother game play. Sorry it didn't go as well as everybody would've hoped. I'm sure you all feel a bit bummed to keep your 320k+ clients waiting. Best wishes for a smooth move from here on out.
DaiTengu Gallente GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:39:00 - [16] Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. This explains why you're a manager and not a programmer.
Serpensis Gallente Ghosts of Grey	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:39:00 - [17] /signed op CCP, thank you for making the best game in the world, and for making it even better! I blame the summersolstice-gnomes for this mishap btw. -- "Fear accompanies the possibility of death, calm sheperds its certainty."
Jason1138	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:40:00 - [18] "they didnt replace the servers, so there was no way to test the "new" setup before everything had been moved there." CCP's own posts said there was a problem with the new routers, in addition to the database problem. Do you really think it would have been impossible for them to test a router before going live with it?
Kalithor Red Horizon Inc R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:41:00 - [19] Nice to see a positive post about this DT for once, too bad someone had to come in and ruin it. I imagine a lot of CCP employees are gonna need a lot of rest in the coming hours, thanks for the hard work CCP, looking forward to logging back in.
Sir Rush Caldari Sirrush Holdings And Industries Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:41:00 - [20] The server guys deserve a couple of beers, tbh.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:41:00 - [21] Edited by: Cipher Jones on 24/06/2010 15:41:43 Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. If you are a project manager of 120+ you should have the tendency to review the information available on a subject before making a decision. Just sayin. This is clearly a signature.
Ulrecht	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:42:00 - [22] CCP is trying to give me a better service for the same amount of money every month..... I'm pretty sure that I'm ok with that. Don't really care how long it takes. That's just me though.
Vak'ran	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:43:00 - [23] whiners, get the **** out, you have about 10 threads live atm to whine in, this thread is about how much beer ccp owes its server team :p Vak'Ran is your local official non-dedicated part-time advocate of reading comprehension and proliferation of intelligence on the EVE Online Forum
Lutz Major Austriae Est Imperare Orbi Universo	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:43:00 - [24] Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. LOL! Since when are programmer responsible for changing the hardware? In what little world are you living?
EmoTears	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:43:00 - [25] Edited by: EmoTears on 24/06/2010 15:43:46 i have loved the dt. I finally cleaned the house, cleaned my car, went swimming in the pool and mowed the lawn. When the server comes up again i can now neglect that stuff till the next major dt hehe
Commander Phoenix More-Cowbell	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:43:00 - [26] Keep up the good work CCP :) ---------------------------- -It's a big rock. Can't wait to tell my friends. They don't have a rock this big.
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:45:00 - [27] I hear those server rooms are pretty chilly. Hope they wrapped up warm!
NastyFecker	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:45:00 - [28] Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. Well would have thought you mite have some idea of the huge task they are undertaking But noooo ya just a little dum cupcake lool
Rashmika Clavain Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:46:00 - [29] Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. Wow you must be one hell of a Project Manager to be able to make that kind of root cause analysis without seeing any of CCP's project documentation of having any real understanding of how their kit works. Never mind even understanding the unexpected issue that caused the unexpected extension to the planned outage. I'm glad I don't work for you.
NoScream Amarr Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:47:00 - [30] I want my HAMSTERS BACK, they need sleep & you've had them up for over 30 Hours !!!!!! Naughty Naughty !!
Nuadi	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:47:00 - [31] Originally by: Blazie Thanks a bunch for all your hard work, i can't imagine the last 30 or so hours have been plesant, but I look forward to a faster server when you're done. Agreed.
TheAsiaRickJames Gallente Romanian Space Explorer	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:48:00 - [32] Originally by: Lutz Major Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. LOL! Since when are programmer responsible for changing the hardware? In what little world are you living? IN one where programmers are responsible for TESTING the SOFTWARE placed on the new hardware ? DOH. :)
Dylatar Gallente Ocean Eleven	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:48:00 - [33] /signed I once was involved in moving Server locations at my work, in combination with adding 3 new servers. And the Eve cluster by far contains more hardware. With that massive changes, you always have to expect the unexpected, and it's very hard (if possible at all) to schedule such work. Computer equipment, and especially network equipent and infrastructure are beasts. Thanks for all the people working overtime for CCP to get all up and running again. I know how frustrating it can be when things not gonna happen as planned. So CCP did right in my opinion, to expand the time as long as needed. Everybody wants to play again, but everybody also expects things to run smooth and right after that. ANd thet needs time, so we should give CCP the time needed. :) This character also finished skill training today in the morning. But, hey this char is 6 years old, and a few hours with no skill training wouldn't kill me nor my char. ;)
TsukasaTiger Gallente Hated Raiders The Dark Authority	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:48:00 - [34] Edited by: TsukasaTiger on 24/06/2010 15:49:25 Thanks for all the hard work CCP! we know your doing your best and its much more appreciated than you guys may realize Edited to change spelling mistake :(
Commander Azrael Red Federation	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:49:00 - [35] Man that must have been one long day for you guys. Just know most of the playerbase appreciate it I work in the 'biz' too and know how long the days can be but 31 hours is monstrous. Kudos to you CCP
MaxxOmega Caldari Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:49:00 - [36] Edited by: MaxxOmega on 24/06/2010 15:57:50 Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. Applications programmers are nothing more than code monkey's who are notorious for lack of testing and ***ing about Change Management. Systems Architecture is where it's at... They MOVED the existing one, which obviously WAS working before it was shut down. You have obviously never been involved with a major hardware move. ANY number of problems can and do arise. I've seen many such moves in 30 years and there is inevitably unforseen but expected problems. It's not like unplugging a PC and movint it to a different bedroom. (Although that s up too). The mistake here was haveing an estimated 6 hour down time which was way too optomistic. After reading the DEV Blog I figured it was gonna be 15 to 24 hours. 6 hours flys buy in minutes when doing this type of activity... Originally by:** Jason1138 "they didnt replace the servers, so there was no way to test the "new" setup before everything had been moved there." CCP's own posts said there was a problem with the new routers, in addition to the database problem. Do you really think it would have been impossible for them to test a router before going live with it? Problems most always show up in Production that don't show up in testing. Idiot...
DaiTengu Gallente GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:49:00 - [37] Originally by: TheAsiaRickJames Originally by: Lutz Major Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. LOL! Since when are programmer responsible for changing the hardware? In what little world are you living? IN one where programmers are responsible for TESTING the SOFTWARE placed on the new hardware ? DOH. Fun fact: there was little to no new hardware. It just moved. Things go bad when you unrack and rerack them,
Kate Yeats Caldari Everyshore Mineral Acquisition Authority	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:50:00 - [38] Crap happens guys, we appreciate your efforts. CCP management owes you lots of beer \|Adventures in Acquisition\|
Wacktopia Dark Side Of The Womb Focused Intentions	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:51:00 - [39] Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. Cool story bro.
Nali Kceb	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:52:00 - [40] Well if you guys worked as hard as i think you worked you do deserve a extra day off :)
ViperTan Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:52:00 - [41] Beers are on me! VT
maddmaxx III Caldari DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:53:00 - [42] ya I hope we can actually have big fight without lag, thanks ccp.
Mr M Legion of Illuminated Social Rejects	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:53:00 - [43] Gooooo CCP. There will be lots of love and beer when the servers are up again. And to the people nerdraging, try go out for a while. Hang out in a park or something. Maybe give your mom a call, she would probably enjoy hearing from you. Eve Tribune\|EVEgeek\|Firebrand Radio
Harkethas Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:54:00 - [44] Well done guys, can't imagine the stress and hassle it has been, the other folks on here are correct CCP management owes you LOTS of beer ;)
Kate Yeats Caldari Everyshore Mineral Acquisition Authority	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:55:00 - [45] Edited by: Kate Yeats on 24/06/2010 15:55:07 Originally by: Mr M Maybe give your mom a call, she would probably enjoy hearing from you. Remember to shout fairly loud if you want her to hear you from the basement. \|Adventures in Acquisition\|
Tommy Blue Executive Intervention Primary.	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:55:00 - [46] Edited by: Tommy Blue on 24/06/2010 15:55:42 Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. As President of the United States, I'd like to say, u mad?
Zeke Mobius	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:55:00 - [47] Originally by: Ulrecht CCP is trying to give me a better service for the same amount of money every month..... I'm pretty sure that I'm ok with that. Don't really care how long it takes. That's just me though. Most of the money we give ccp goes to produce other games ala DUST 514 / World of Darkness. Id think the quality and handling/bringing live the past 2 expansions would be evidence of that. Soon eve wont be the only game in the genre and might have to actually release quality stuff... Maybe update more than 1 ship in 6 months. You know what im sayin.
Tiberizzle	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:56:00 - [48] To the CCP Server Team: Eat **, you clowns! I wanted to play today, and you just had to go and be your **-up selves.
Blazie	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:58:00 - [49] Originally by: Kate Yeats Edited by: Kate Yeats on 24/06/2010 15:55:07 Originally by: Mr M Maybe give your mom a call, she would probably enjoy hearing from you. Remember to shout fairly loud if you want her to hear you from the basement. I loled. And to the whiners that think they know better, look at TQs specs, it's not your average comp/server farm. You can never truly test it before hand because they're no other computer quite like it.
Melke Gallente Capital Construction Research	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:58:00 - [50] I'd rather have it done right than have it rushed and hear more whining about how stuff doesn't work in-game. Even if that means my character can't switch skills and finished it hours ago
xAlexVladx	Posted - 2010.06.24 15:59:00 - [51] Originally by: Tiberizzle To the CCP Server Team: Eat **, you clowns! I wanted to play today, and you just had to go and be your **-up selves. no more isk for you http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1341823
MaxxOmega Caldari Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2010.06.24 16:00:00 - [52] Originally by: Zeke Mobius Originally by: Ulrecht CCP is trying to give me a better service for the same amount of money every month..... I'm pretty sure that I'm ok with that. Don't really care how long it takes. That's just me though. Most of the money we give ccp goes to produce other games ala DUST 514 / World of Darkness. Id think the quality and handling/bringing live the past 2 expansions would be evidence of that. Soon eve wont be the only game in the genre and might have to actually release quality stuff... Maybe update more than 1 ship in 6 months. You know what im sayin. Yes, I know what yer saying. Yer an idiot...
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.06.24 16:00:00 - [53] I will be furious if they miss another deadline. Because you understand, it's not the lengthy downtimes I object to, it's the fact that they keep assuring as that they won't be lengthy, promising us they'll be up by a certain time and then failing to keep their deadlines. I wouldn't be nearly so irritated with CCP if they had just said "Yeah, this is probably going to take upwards 24 hours or so, and we can't guarantee even that. Best stick a very long skill on to train". Claiming you can move one of the world's largest and most complex server infrastructures in six hours was a disingenuous lie and an insult to the intelligence of anyone who knows the slightest thing about servers. I have a rack server sitting in the other room and a rule of thumb our company has for that godawful machine is that no matter what you're doing to it, always multiply any estimate of the time it will take by four. Please, stop setting deadlines you know you won't meet. In fact, with this sort of thing, don't set firm deadlines. It wears out people's patience much faster when they're given updates and times to look forward to and have them repeatedly shot down than when they're told "we're in for a long haul here, go grab a bite to eat". -----
Kate Yeats Caldari Everyshore Mineral Acquisition Authority	Posted - 2010.06.24 16:03:00 - [54] Originally by: Zeke Mobius Maybe update more than 1 ship in 6 months. You know what im sayin. Cataclysm is almost a 2 year wait. EQII? 12months between expansions. CCP offer up major changes to gameplay mechanics with their expansions (FW, sov changes, PI), it is part of what keeps the game so damned complex and deep. If you aren't happy with the service, you know where the unsub button is. \|Adventures in Acquisition\|
Xyla Kador	Posted - 2010.06.24 16:03:00 - [55] this thread and CCP deserve a thumbs-up-kirby ... ... ( '.')-b
Urgg Boolean	Posted - 2010.06.24 16:04:00 - [56] I am a registered nurse IRL. I offer my services to CCP for the next huge outage, as I can start intravenous lines that will allow pumping of coffee/red bull directly into your workforce member's bloodstreams. Not knowing who among you had the luxury of sleep during this outage, something like this seems needed. Let me know if you are interested. Of course, you'll have to pay my round trip airfare to Iceland.
Shintai Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io	Posted - 2010.06.24 16:04:00 - [57] Edited by: Shintai on 24/06/2010 16:05:16 As a sysadm I know how they feel. it always sucks for everyone when stuff is down or something crapped itself. But it sucks even more for these server people with a gazillion idiots and other people nagging them every second for. When is it up???!??! And with software and hardware today. You can do all you can with super human powers. And it will still crap itself sooner or later. -------------------------------------- Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
Kate Yeats Caldari Everyshore Mineral Acquisition Authority	Posted - 2010.06.24 16:08:00 - [58] Originally by: Andreus LeHane Claiming you can move one of the world's largest and most complex server infrastructures in six hours was a disingenuous lie and an insult to the intelligence of anyone who knows the slightest thing about servers. So are you saying that you don't know the slightest thing about servers or that knowing 6 hours was an unlikely estimate you're angry at CCP for letting you ignore your own common sense and good judgement in not setting a long skill training like every seasons Eve Pilot does before a major upgrade? I'm just not sure what your point is, either it was obvious they were going to miss the deadline (and if so that's your own dumb fault) or it wasn't and crap happens. \|Adventures in Acquisition\|
Iture Caldari Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.24 16:10:00 - [59] If any of the server team are ever in seattle, the beers are on me. Thanks for moving a super computer for us.
Baldemar	Posted - 2010.06.24 16:14:00 - [60] Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. baldemar@eve:/home/baldemar$db2 "select * from forum_HasAClue where Person='N0A'" PERSON TECH_CREDENTIALS -------------- -------------------------------- 0 record(s) selected. baldemar@eve:/home/baldemar$
Kaptain Kruncher	Posted - 2010.06.24 16:16:00 - [61] Thanks CCP! I love your game, take your time, make it right. Personally, if it were my game, I would kick most of the cry babies- Then you would see some tears.
MaxxOmega Caldari Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2010.06.24 16:17:00 - [62] Originally by: Shintai Edited by: Shintai on 24/06/2010 16:05:16 As a sysadm I know how they feel. it always sucks for everyone when stuff is down or something crapped itself. But it sucks even more for these server people with a gazillion idiots and other people nagging them every second for. When is it up???!??! And with software and hardware today. You can do all you can with super human powers. And it will still crap itself sooner or later. Yeah and most end users are stupid luddites who don't have any grasp whatsoever just how complex this stuff really is. They think because they know how to use google on their Costco bought netbook that they actually understand how things work. I see it all the time. My idiot sister who think her kid is a "computer guru" because she know how to use a word processor...
VinLieger Caldari Kraken Heads	Posted - 2010.06.24 16:26:00 - [63] Well done all who were hard at work over the past 2 days, it can be a bit of a thankless but there are those of us who appreciate it -----------------------
Mr M Legion of Illuminated Social Rejects	Posted - 2010.06.24 17:21:00 - [64] Originally by: Baldemar baldemar@eve:/home/baldemar$db2 "select * from forum_HasAClue where Person='N0A'" PERSON TECH_CREDENTIALS -------------- -------------------------------- 0 record(s) selected. baldemar@eve:/home/baldemar$ I feel ashamed but I actually laughed Eve Tribune\|EVEgeek\|Firebrand Radio
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.06.24 17:31:00 - [65] Edited by: Syn Callibri on 24/06/2010 17:32:32 Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. As an IT Professional...Honestly, how do you propose they test a new set-up when there isn't one to test? This was a hardware migration not a data migration, of course a project manager doesn't have to know how the work is done...just that it needs to be done by someone else. Do you recycle...or make a new tinfoil hat eveytime you have something to say? (The views expressed may not be those of Blacklight Inc.)
Rufus Starlight	Posted - 2010.06.24 17:41:00 - [66] CCP: You are Awesome! I was prepared to say that even Before I read about the upcoming gifts :). Don't listens to the whiners, they just prove that they have no life :D.
Yuki Kulotsuki	Posted - 2010.06.24 17:44:00 - [67] Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. Boldly proving once again why no one takes management seriously. Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: ... IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
Mr M Legion of Illuminated Social Rejects	Posted - 2010.06.24 17:49:00 - [68] Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. What fun with that? You change in the code, cross your fingers, close your eyes and whispers "compile, compile, compile". Eve Tribune\|EVEgeek\|Firebrand Radio
Exordium8 Minmatar Hell's Horsemen -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2010.06.24 17:50:00 - [69] /signed. Anyone with IT experience can relate to what you had to go through. Good job. --------------------------------- Pillage, then burn. Everything is air-droppable at least once. There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'time to reload.
Barakkus Spacelane Innovation	Posted - 2010.06.24 17:52:00 - [70] Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. I'd fire you now for your obvious lack of reading comprehension. Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Nika Dekaia	Posted - 2010.06.24 18:06:00 - [71] Originally by: Blazie Thanks a bunch for all your hard work, i can't imagine the last 30 or so hours have been plesant, but I look forward to a faster server when you're done. signed **** can hit the fan when moving the whole damn server, but I'm sure yu guys did what you could to get it back working asap. Keep up the good work.
Godvik	Posted - 2010.06.24 18:08:00 - [72] As a ServerSide Technician at a data center. I salute you. Another 60k concurrent users happily migrated to a new pasture. RIDE'EM COWBOY!!
Agakhaan	Posted - 2010.06.24 18:17:00 - [73] Congrats, Server Team, on the move! Also, thanks for the additional QA, and thanks to CS/CM for the pending compensatory SP for the downtime necessitated by the additional QA. Big hardware moves are a p.i.t.a. in general. Enjoy the beers, guys.
CK3PO	Posted - 2010.06.24 18:36:00 - [74] /signed CCP's last 30 hours sounds familiar to me. Thanks for bustin' you humps to get this done, I know it's not easy. I am looking forward to the dev blog that details what happened.
Aloriate Amarr Big Buck Bunny Interstellar Solo Society	Posted - 2010.06.24 18:36:00 - [75] I also want to offer my congratulations for a job well done. As for the whiners, look at it this way. If EVE wasn't such a good game, there wouldn't be this kind of response. Everyone at CCP should be congratulated, but it's the server team that deserve the kudos this time; oh yea, the beer too. Way to go guys!
Sourpsalm Gallente Pubs 'n Clubs	Posted - 2010.06.24 18:45:00 - [76] As a university student in between jobs, thanks for my new farmer tan. Oh, and the mystery gift and stuff.
Dr Caymus Gallente Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune	Posted - 2010.06.24 18:47:00 - [77] Congratulations, guys, on a well-managed implementation. Sure, there were problems along the way, as is to be expected with any implementation of this nature, but they were handled quite professionally. My Jita colleagues report excellent market performance under a 1400-player load. Thanks and Best Regards, Dr Caymus -=ATI=-
Camios Minmatar Insurgent New Eden Tribe	Posted - 2010.06.24 18:52:00 - [78] This guy Originally by: CCP Yokai I'll set all my accounts to a 6 hour skill just to be sure ;) Originally by: CCP Yokai It begins... see you guys/gals in 6 hours. Should be a bit more careful and writing such strong statements... But I can imagine how hard you worked in these 30 hours. And I think that CCP people did a wonderful work keeping us informed.
Rovinare	Posted - 2010.06.24 19:12:00 - [79] A little background: I'm a sys admim for a global company. We don't have 200+ server techs with monkeys around to fetch coffee, much like CCP I think. I've been playing MMO's forever, and EVE off and on since BETA so you know I've been around the block with CCP... and I'll say this. Quoted For Truth OP. NEVER have a I seen a dedication level to customer support, service, and openness as the CCP tech crew exhibits. Especially over as many years as this game has been around. 'Old timers' like myself get busy, close the account, but always come back because I appreciate the level of work CCP puts in. This job isn't easy, especially with a bunch of Pebkac's that complain because they don't understand the back end of these issues. How do you know they didn't test the router? I've tested routers, VPN firewalls, all the above, and it works in the office... then when it arrives on site, well, who knows what happens to it what with solar flares, evil hamsters, motherboard gnomes and nanites crawling around. They give you a game where the software, upgrades, improvements, and additions are FREE. Even without a scantily clad humanoid on the sidebar telling you to buy some Extenze. CCP is awesome, you did well. The unexpected happened and the servers weren't down for a week. If I ever come out to EVEfest (which I always try to do and it never works out) the Dev tables get a keg of Oregon's finest brew. Somehow I'll make that happen. Thanks for everything CCP! Queue brown nosing flame posts that somehow involve my mother
Lost Greybeard	Posted - 2010.06.24 19:30:00 - [80] Originally by: xAlexVladx loool what a kissass thread. why dont you use your daddy's credit cards to donate 2500$ each to CCP right now ? They managed to hunt down the bugged setting in multiple pieces of new equipment (and it was software, not even hardware, which is bad enough), so I actually think I'll give 'em a couple plex of spending money so they can get a round of Pilsner or something on me. //Not sure why I buy PLEX and then activate them, I think it's just because I don't trust anyone involved in EVE enough to let them handle a recurring credit card payment. See, CCP? You've made me paranoid.
Gigistine Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.06.24 19:54:00 - [81] Skipped past all the replies but just wanted to add... thanks CCP and Devs, and everyone involved, for all the hard work and long hours put in to make this game better despite a few snags (and many jerks posting like they know better than you).
Whitehound The Whitehound Corporation	Posted - 2010.06.24 19:59:00 - [82] There is not much to say here any more. We are getting free gifts, so what is the point of this thread? You are asking for a bit too much, wanting to complain and to accept a gift. It is time to shut up now or we do not deserve a gift. And those who kiss butts, please, kiss a little harder. I am sure we will get a bigger win if you only suck hard enough on CCP's butts! --
Rovinare	Posted - 2010.06.24 20:06:00 - [83] Originally by: Whitehound There is not much to say here any more. We are getting free gifts, so what is the point of this thread? You are asking for a bit too much, wanting to complain and to accept a gift. It is time to shut up now or we do not deserve a gift. And those who kiss butts, please, kiss a little harder. I am sure we will get a bigger win if you only suck hard enough on CCP's butts! . mmm good point sir!
Hecatonis Amarr	Posted - 2010.06.24 20:27:00 - [84] Originally by: Yuki Kulotsuki Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers, id say its time for you to look for another job. One that does not involve such complicated knowledge like making sure the new setup works BEFORE shutting down the old one. Boldly proving once again why no one takes management seriously. ok this did make me laugh. from now on, i am going to try to add "As a civil engineer....." to the beinging of every one of my posts. it seems to add more credibility to what i am saying. i think CCP should send these brave men and women around the world to have beer with the players that they worked so hard for. Victoria Canada beer is on me Originally by: Yuki Kulotsuki Originally by: N0A As a project manager for a team of 120+ programmers... Boldly proving once again why no one takes management seriously.
Derus Grobb Minmatar Selectus Pravus Lupus	Posted - 2010.06.24 20:51:00 - [85] As a happy player who just scored some kills, I would just like to say that the server / database types should all be given copious amounts of beer for their efforts --- Originally by: CCP Soundwave The roof is awesome.
Sydious Amarr Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers	Posted - 2010.06.24 21:46:00 - [86] Thanks for getting it all sorted guys, if i ever meet you i'll buy all of you a beer.
Darke Elune	Posted - 2010.06.24 21:50:00 - [87] I like to say thank you to CCP, you guys did a lot of work, that to making an experience much better in the long run. Sure there was a lot of drama going on here, Facebook and Twitter, but the thing I noticed was that the vast majority was silent, letting them work, tweaking, testing, tweaking some more and finally today going online and I was among the first 10,000 plus to log on. Certainly in the long run it will improve no matter what and hopefully it will continue.
Femerov Minmatar Brutor Gearheads and Grease Monkeys V3SPA Community	Posted - 2010.06.24 22:16:00 - [88] Originally by: Blazie Thanks a bunch for all your hard work, i can't imagine the last 30 or so hours have been plesant, but I look forward to a faster server when you're done. /signed and agree you folks at ccp and the team that was doing the work in london did a good job . even if we had to wait a bit longer then expected (marketing department and their guesses ) .
Damon Blood Empirius Enigmus Navy Dysengage	Posted - 2010.06.24 22:29:00 - [89] As a proud owner of 3 account for nearly 6 years, I agree with OP. While not everyone may agree, EVE is by far better than other MMO's out there, and I thank them for continually upgrading, updating and adding more content, and basically not passing any of the cost onto is subscriber base. Other games charge for new content to make up for the graphics upgrades they get. Thank you CCP for all you do.
Niraad Khaaz Minmatar Royal Order of Security Specialists	Posted - 2010.06.24 22:29:00 - [90] Edited by: Niraad Khaaz on 24/06/2010 22:30:38 Edited by: Niraad Khaaz on 24/06/2010 22:30:10 Edited by: Niraad Khaaz on 24/06/2010 22:29:25 /signed. Thanks for all your hard work....get a beer and relax CCP stuff happens.
AterraX Caldari	Posted - 2010.06.24 22:49:00 - [91] Agreed, good job. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character...
Teinyhr Minmatar Nor'akho Matar	Posted - 2010.06.24 23:05:00 - [92] Thanks CCP + Server monkeys for a job well done. Thanks for the extended downtime too, I managed to clock some happy extra hours for Fallout 2 which I hadn't done in ages. So all's good.
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2010.06.24 23:05:00 - [93] Edited by: Tres Farmer on 24/06/2010 23:07:15 Originally by: Damon Blood ..While not everyone may agree, EVE is by far better than other MMO's out there, and I thank them for continually upgrading, updating and adding more content, and basically not passing any of the cost onto is subscriber base. Other games charge for new content to make up for the graphics upgrades they get. .. If ccp wouldn't passing ALL the costs and profits they make onto us the customers, who do you think pays for the show, called ccp? Anyways, good job Server-Team. Wish you better luck next time and if I may remind you: Timelapse suggestion of the Move I hope you made at least 'some' pics, cause otherwise it didn't happen

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