| Pages: 1 2 3 :: [one page] |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Best
   |
Posted - 2004.12.15 02:42:00 -
[1]
anyone have any experience pvp with a cruiser or battlecruiser in an assault? also any opinions on the bad mamba jamba of the assault frigates and why...
|
Best
|
Posted - 2004.12.15 02:42:00 -
[2]
anyone have any experience pvp with a cruiser or battlecruiser in an assault? also any opinions on the bad mamba jamba of the assault frigates and why...
|
Niaski Zalani
|
Posted - 2004.12.15 04:47:00 -
[3]
I love my enyo and ishkur...only lost one enyo to a munin and a wolf :(. In all the other pvp i've been in they have won/escaped..'nuff said.
yarr? |
Niaski Zalani
|
Posted - 2004.12.15 04:47:00 -
[4]
I love my enyo and ishkur...only lost one enyo to a munin and a wolf :(. In all the other pvp i've been in they have won/escaped..'nuff said.
yarr? |
Ronyo Dae'Loki
|
Posted - 2004.12.15 05:48:00 -
[5]
I can beat the pants off many cruisers in my Taranis, do you think I have a problem doing it in my Enyo or Ishkur?
Heh.
Now a battlecruiser, it really depends on what's he's got fitted and if you can hold him there long enough.
2 Assault frigs on a battlecruiser not fitted for fightin frigates and you should rip him apart easily. Solo is going to be more of a challenge.
-------------
My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants.
I <3 ( . Y . ) |
Ronyo Dae'Loki
|
Posted - 2004.12.15 05:48:00 -
[6]
I can beat the pants off many cruisers in my Taranis, do you think I have a problem doing it in my Enyo or Ishkur?
Heh.
Now a battlecruiser, it really depends on what's he's got fitted and if you can hold him there long enough.
2 Assault frigs on a battlecruiser not fitted for fightin frigates and you should rip him apart easily. Solo is going to be more of a challenge.
-------------
My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants.
I <3 ( . Y . ) |
xOm3gAx
|
Posted - 2004.12.15 08:49:00 -
[7]
solo'n im not so sure about 2 on 1 maybe or at least hold him off but it all depends on what you have fitted to the assult friggies and what the bc user has fitted... so far the only problem i had was when i was going up against a ceptor without my bc having an mwd equiped so i couldnt hit him and couldnt web him since he was just outside web range ;) course in the end my cap lasted longer... it all boils down to whats fitted to each ship and the actual skill points each pilot has... 2x assult ships with no mwd vs 1x bc fitted for close quarters combat with some anti frig guns and theres no real competition but like i said it all depends
-----------------
*Decloaks and starts blasting your sig* Applesauce Biotch
~~~My Banner got nerfed~~~
But I still love the mods anyway
Succumb to your nightmares
Darkness shall embrace you |
xOm3gAx
|
Posted - 2004.12.15 08:49:00 -
[8]
solo'n im not so sure about 2 on 1 maybe or at least hold him off but it all depends on what you have fitted to the assult friggies and what the bc user has fitted... so far the only problem i had was when i was going up against a ceptor without my bc having an mwd equiped so i couldnt hit him and couldnt web him since he was just outside web range ;) course in the end my cap lasted longer... it all boils down to whats fitted to each ship and the actual skill points each pilot has... 2x assult ships with no mwd vs 1x bc fitted for close quarters combat with some anti frig guns and theres no real competition but like i said it all depends
-----------------
*Decloaks and starts blasting your sig* Applesauce Biotch
~~~My Banner got nerfed~~~
But I still love the mods anyway
Succumb to your nightmares
Darkness shall embrace you |
CynSage
|
Posted - 2004.12.17 16:08:00 -
[9]
BC setup with Nos, drones, guns equals one very dead assualt frig in short order.
|
CynSage
|
Posted - 2004.12.17 16:08:00 -
[10]
BC setup with Nos, drones, guns equals one very dead assualt frig in short order.
|
Alex Harumichi
|
Posted - 2004.12.17 16:12:00 -
[11]
It all depends on the layout. Any sort of target jamming cruiser (with warp scrambler) can probably kill an assault frigate. On the other hand, assault frigates can probably eat most "normal" cruiser setups for lunch.
BCs are tougher. Dunno. Will have to test sometime :).
|
Alex Harumichi
|
Posted - 2004.12.17 16:12:00 -
[12]
It all depends on the layout. Any sort of target jamming cruiser (with warp scrambler) can probably kill an assault frigate. On the other hand, assault frigates can probably eat most "normal" cruiser setups for lunch.
BCs are tougher. Dunno. Will have to test sometime :).
|
fghr
|
Posted - 2004.12.17 16:40:00 -
[13]
NO you cant 1 v 1 
|
fghr
|
Posted - 2004.12.17 16:40:00 -
[14]
NO you cant 1 v 1
|
slothe
|
Posted - 2004.12.17 17:10:00 -
[15]
ass frig v cruiser , id say yes unless cruiser pilot is very good.
ass cruiser v bc, id say no, even a poor bc pilot could probably win.
Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com
or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public"
http://www.khainestar.com/eve |
slothe
|
Posted - 2004.12.17 17:10:00 -
[16]
ass frig v cruiser , id say yes unless cruiser pilot is very good.
ass cruiser v bc, id say no, even a poor bc pilot could probably win.
Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com
or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public"
http://www.khainestar.com/eve |
WelshFox
|
Posted - 2004.12.17 17:50:00 -
[17]
There are some really simple solutions to Ass frigs. Nosferatu's. I was almost a dead man in my harpy before now except for my cap injector keeping my shield boosts going long enough to dock (call me a coward I dare ya!).
But in all honesty, a cruiser with 2 nosfers, web/scram and any amount of guns/drones will really own up any ass frig.
|
WelshFox
|
Posted - 2004.12.17 17:50:00 -
[18]
There are some really simple solutions to Ass frigs. Nosferatu's. I was almost a dead man in my harpy before now except for my cap injector keeping my shield boosts going long enough to dock (call me a coward I dare ya!).
But in all honesty, a cruiser with 2 nosfers, web/scram and any amount of guns/drones will really own up any ass frig.
|
Siddy
|
Posted - 2004.12.17 18:02:00 -
[19]
anything with under 1500 Cap is Dead to 2 nos's
thats why assault frigats or cruisers can never ever be > battleships
never...
Heavy Nos is one most overpovered thing BS's ppls got gainst smaller ships
-------------------------------------------
|
Siddy
|
Posted - 2004.12.17 18:02:00 -
[20]
anything with under 1500 Cap is Dead to 2 nos's
thats why assault frigats or cruisers can never ever be > battleships
never...
Heavy Nos is one most overpovered thing BS's ppls got gainst smaller ships
-------------------------------------------
|
Dash Ripcock
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 11:28:00 -
[21]
Edited by: Dash Ripcock on 18/12/2004 11:29:17
 Originally by: slothe
ass cruiser v bc, id say no, even a poor bc pilot could probably win.
Heavy Assault Cruisers eat Battlecruisers for breakfast. With all those resistances and weapon bonuses, plus better capacitor a Deimos, for example, can slice through a Brutix in no time at all - especially since the Brutix will be fitted with Hybrids, the weapon type the Deimos is strongest against.
If BCs were better than HAS Cruisers, no one would ever buy the latter would they?
Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
|
Dash Ripcock
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 11:28:00 -
[22]
Edited by: Dash Ripcock on 18/12/2004 11:29:17
Originally by: slothe
ass cruiser v bc, id say no, even a poor bc pilot could probably win.
Heavy Assault Cruisers eat Battlecruisers for breakfast. With all those resistances and weapon bonuses, plus better capacitor a Deimos, for example, can slice through a Brutix in no time at all - especially since the Brutix will be fitted with Hybrids, the weapon type the Deimos is strongest against.
If BCs were better than HAS Cruisers, no one would ever buy the latter would they?
Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
|
Dred 'Morte
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 11:40:00 -
[23]
The Deimos is almost as good as Megathron, if you have TechII stuff and VERY HIGH skills, a deimos is just as effective against Serpentis as a megathron.
|
Dred 'Morte
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 11:40:00 -
[24]
The Deimos is almost as good as Megathron, if you have TechII stuff and VERY HIGH skills, a deimos is just as effective against Serpentis as a megathron.
|
Spartna
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 12:19:00 -
[25]
what about the Amarr assault ships? Are they any good?
---------------/\---------------
I sure hope they have found a cure for cancer in EVE that would make it better than real life... |
Spartna
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 12:19:00 -
[26]
what about the Amarr assault ships? Are they any good?
---------------/\---------------
I sure hope they have found a cure for cancer in EVE that would make it better than real life... |
ZelRox
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 13:21:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Spartna
what about the Amarr assault ships? Are they any good?
`
well, eagle might be used as sniper. cerberus, well, no big deal really.
----------------------
I wanna tuc tuc .. |
ZelRox
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 13:21:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Spartna
what about the Amarr assault ships? Are they any good?
`
well, eagle might be used as sniper. cerberus, well, no big deal really.
----------------------
I wanna tuc tuc .. |
Semor
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 14:54:00 -
[29]
hi
with may wolf never lost 2 any croz even take 2 croz down, 1 moa and 1 carcal. i think its not mach of a fight with croz but with an ac i did not fight dont think i can wine unless the othere ac fighter dono what he/she is doing
|
Semor
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 14:54:00 -
[30]
hi
with may wolf never lost 2 any croz even take 2 croz down, 1 moa and 1 carcal. i think its not mach of a fight with croz but with an ac i did not fight dont think i can wine unless the othere ac fighter dono what he/she is doing
|
Kusotarre
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 16:02:00 -
[31]
In regards to the above post:
Wow.
|
Kusotarre
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 16:02:00 -
[32]
In regards to the above post:
Wow.
|
Bad'Boy
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 16:53:00 -
[33]
Originally by: ZelRox
Originally by: Spartna
what about the Amarr assault ships? Are they any good?
`
well, eagle might be used as sniper. cerberus, well, no big deal really.
lol, Eagle and cerberus are Caldari....
B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling
"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
|
Bad'Boy
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 16:53:00 -
[34]
Originally by: ZelRox
Originally by: Spartna
what about the Amarr assault ships? Are they any good?
`
well, eagle might be used as sniper. cerberus, well, no big deal really.
lol, Eagle and cerberus are Caldari....
B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling
"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
|
Bad'Boy
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 17:00:00 -
[35]
Originally by: ZelRox
Originally by: Spartna
what about the Amarr assault ships? Are they any good?
`
well, eagle might be used as sniper. cerberus, well, no big deal really.
and cerberus got about 100km range with missiles.......and got 5%rof bonus and 5%dm bonus and 4low slots to put BC's in
B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling
"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
|
Bad'Boy
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 17:00:00 -
[36]
Originally by: ZelRox
Originally by: Spartna
what about the Amarr assault ships? Are they any good?
`
well, eagle might be used as sniper. cerberus, well, no big deal really.
and cerberus got about 100km range with missiles.......and got 5%rof bonus and 5%dm bonus and 4low slots to put BC's in
B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling
"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
|
Max Warg
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 17:48:00 -
[37]
I'll just sya this heavy missels and a webber work wounders .. I have been very productive in 1 vs 1 combat with belisocse and stabber class crusiers vs all types of eliet frigets from asaults to intys. Most of the time i dont even lauch drones.
|
Max Warg
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 17:48:00 -
[38]
I'll just sya this heavy missels and a webber work wounders .. I have been very productive in 1 vs 1 combat with belisocse and stabber class crusiers vs all types of eliet frigets from asaults to intys. Most of the time i dont even lauch drones.
|
Leam
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 18:18:00 -
[39]
No assault frig is defeating me in my thorax in a 1vs1, and unless the cruiser pilot is a noob, or his fitting is in disadvantage (i.e. very long range fitting in the cruiser, short range in the assault frig and they're close), a cruiser can eat an assault frig and keep asking for more. if there are more than 1... that's another thing
|
Leam
|
Posted - 2004.12.18 18:18:00 -
[40]
No assault frig is defeating me in my thorax in a 1vs1, and unless the cruiser pilot is a noob, or his fitting is in disadvantage (i.e. very long range fitting in the cruiser, short range in the assault frig and they're close), a cruiser can eat an assault frig and keep asking for more. if there are more than 1... that's another thing
|
Urfin
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 11:57:00 -
[41]
Edited by: Urfin on 20/12/2004 11:57:44
I just don't see how an assault frig can eat my maller, let alone my prophecy. A cruiser has got to be very dumb to be blown by an assault frig (well, not really if it's an arbitrator :). If it orbits outside web it either gets hit (has no mwd) by my guns = pwnd, or doesn't get hit (has mwd), but can't overcome my tank. If it gets inside webber range, it's dead. And I'm not even talking about using frig guns here.
A smart and very fast, say, crusader could prolly pwn my maller given time (not sure now with the propulsion nerf), I doubt about prophecy, but an assault = deadmeat to cruisers.
|
Urfin
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 11:57:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Urfin on 20/12/2004 11:57:44
I just don't see how an assault frig can eat my maller, let alone my prophecy. A cruiser has got to be very dumb to be blown by an assault frig (well, not really if it's an arbitrator :). If it orbits outside web it either gets hit (has no mwd) by my guns = pwnd, or doesn't get hit (has mwd), but can't overcome my tank. If it gets inside webber range, it's dead. And I'm not even talking about using frig guns here.
A smart and very fast, say, crusader could prolly pwn my maller given time (not sure now with the propulsion nerf), I doubt about prophecy, but an assault = deadmeat to cruisers.
|
MadGaz
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 12:36:00 -
[43]
I beat a thorax with small blasters + 1600mm plate with my retribution, he had a full load of ogres out aswell.
He barely started to break my tank before he had to warp off in low struc.
------------------------------------------
|
MadGaz
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 12:36:00 -
[44]
I beat a thorax with small blasters + 1600mm plate with my retribution, he had a full load of ogres out aswell.
He barely started to break my tank before he had to warp off in low struc.
------------------------------------------
|
xEntriq
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 12:42:00 -
[45]
You all talk about assault frigates like you're setup to combat one at any given time. And they're not as weak as you may say they are.
|
xEntriq
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 12:42:00 -
[46]
You all talk about assault frigates like you're setup to combat one at any given time. And they're not as weak as you may say they are.
|
Iratus Caelestis
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 13:09:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 20/12/2004 13:10:20
Quote:
ass cruiser v bc, id say no, even a poor bc pilot could probably win
Erm yeah, you mean Assault Frigate right? Any BC 1v1 against a Heavy Assault will get its ass handed to it, the resistences are just crazy.
1 v 1 you pretty much need a BS with a scrambler or another Heavy Assault to take one down. A BS without a scrambler will either die or they won't be able to kill each other. Anything less and you'd better make sure you remember double click won't warp your pod away (will people please learn that, its getting embarassing)
That is assuming you don't know exactly what you are fighting, if you do then you can easily fit a loadout that will beat your opponent.
Even that can be difficult though, not a Battlecruiser but I did fight against a Thorax config in my Deimos where he could have killed me but it wasn't a generally usable config and he had to sacrifice everything for it to work including losing the scrambler, which makes it all moot.
|
Iratus Caelestis
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 13:09:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 20/12/2004 13:10:20
Quote:
ass cruiser v bc, id say no, even a poor bc pilot could probably win
Erm yeah, you mean Assault Frigate right? Any BC 1v1 against a Heavy Assault will get its ass handed to it, the resistences are just crazy.
1 v 1 you pretty much need a BS with a scrambler or another Heavy Assault to take one down. A BS without a scrambler will either die or they won't be able to kill each other. Anything less and you'd better make sure you remember double click won't warp your pod away (will people please learn that, its getting embarassing)
That is assuming you don't know exactly what you are fighting, if you do then you can easily fit a loadout that will beat your opponent.
Even that can be difficult though, not a Battlecruiser but I did fight against a Thorax config in my Deimos where he could have killed me but it wasn't a generally usable config and he had to sacrifice everything for it to work including losing the scrambler, which makes it all moot.
|
agentsmitty
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 13:36:00 -
[49]
some cruisers are more suited to taking on assault frigs, caracels do it very well, i've taken out 3 assault frigates in my caracel, it usually takes me 3 volleys.
|
agentsmitty
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 13:36:00 -
[50]
some cruisers are more suited to taking on assault frigs, caracels do it very well, i've taken out 3 assault frigates in my caracel, it usually takes me 3 volleys.
|
Fenix Rebirth
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 13:56:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Fenix Rebirth on 20/12/2004 19:50:15
Edited by: Fenix Rebirth on 20/12/2004 14:01:56
Edited by: Fenix Rebirth on 20/12/2004 14:00:03
Ishkur V Ruppy Ruppy dead
Jaguar V Ruppy Ruppy dead
Jaguar V Thorax Thorax dead
Enyo V Caracel Caracel dead
so never had a problem with cruisers. having said that Enyo is about the weakest link although the biggest damage dealer. If I fit a full rack of techII Neutrons and im inside 1000m I hit for 40-60 damage per gun every 3 secs with a fair few wrecking shots of 137-140 even had some 180 wreckers so if Im churning out 250 dmg every 3 seconds its a hard hitter defensivly its a no hoper with 2 mid slots. Its get him before he gets you!!
I dont suffer from Insanity *I ENJOY EVERY FECKIN MINUTE OF IT* |
Fenix Rebirth
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 13:56:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Fenix Rebirth on 20/12/2004 19:50:15
Edited by: Fenix Rebirth on 20/12/2004 14:01:56
Edited by: Fenix Rebirth on 20/12/2004 14:00:03
Ishkur V Ruppy Ruppy dead
Jaguar V Ruppy Ruppy dead
Jaguar V Thorax Thorax dead
Enyo V Caracel Caracel dead
so never had a problem with cruisers. having said that Enyo is about the weakest link although the biggest damage dealer. If I fit a full rack of techII Neutrons and im inside 1000m I hit for 40-60 damage per gun every 3 secs with a fair few wrecking shots of 137-140 even had some 180 wreckers so if Im churning out 250 dmg every 3 seconds its a hard hitter defensivly its a no hoper with 2 mid slots. Its get him before he gets you!!
I dont suffer from Insanity *I ENJOY EVERY FECKIN MINUTE OF IT* |
lythos miralbar
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 14:09:00 -
[53]
Quote:
some cruisers are more suited to taking on assault frigs, caracels do it very well, i've taken out 3 assault frigates in my caracel, it usually takes me 3 volleys.
how the hell did you do that??
I have caldari cruiser, missile launcher opp and heavy missiles all at lvl4.
I was using limos heavy launchers and a BC.
Last time I went up against n assault frig it took me 3 volleys just to get past his shield??
I was firing 1 thermal, 2 explosive and 2 kinetics each volley..
|
lythos miralbar
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 14:09:00 -
[54]
Quote:
some cruisers are more suited to taking on assault frigs, caracels do it very well, i've taken out 3 assault frigates in my caracel, it usually takes me 3 volleys.
how the hell did you do that??
I have caldari cruiser, missile launcher opp and heavy missiles all at lvl4.
I was using limos heavy launchers and a BC.
Last time I went up against n assault frig it took me 3 volleys just to get past his shield??
I was firing 1 thermal, 2 explosive and 2 kinetics each volley..
|
Nakir
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 14:20:00 -
[55]
Mhhh I will shot with my Harpy on 25km with antimatter and making hits doing 50-90 Dam and I think with a common cruiser you got no chance when it¦s not specially fitted for antifrigfight.
don¦t think that you got any chance.
|
Nakir
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 14:20:00 -
[56]
Mhhh I will shot with my Harpy on 25km with antimatter and making hits doing 50-90 Dam and I think with a common cruiser you got no chance when it¦s not specially fitted for antifrigfight.
don¦t think that you got any chance.
|
Seto Mazzarotto
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 14:41:00 -
[57]
Originally by: lythos miralbar
Quote:
some cruisers are more suited to taking on assault frigs, caracels do it very well, i've taken out 3 assault frigates in my caracel, it usually takes me 3 volleys.
how the hell did you do that??
I have caldari cruiser, missile launcher opp and heavy missiles all at lvl4.
I was using limos heavy launchers and a BC.
Last time I went up against n assault frig it took me 3 volleys just to get past his shield??
I was firing 1 thermal, 2 explosive and 2 kinetics each volley..
Assaults as a general rule are seriously tanked against kinetic and thermal damage. Only really good means of dispatching them is with EM on shield / Explosive on armor, and even then, only the most foolhardy don't pack a hardener for that.
-----------
Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll. |
Seto Mazzarotto
|
Posted - 2004.12.20 14:41:00 -
[58]
Originally by: lythos miralbar
Quote:
some cruisers are more suited to taking on assault frigs, caracels do it very well, i've taken out 3 assault frigates in my caracel, it usually takes me 3 volleys.
how the hell did you do that??
I have caldari cruiser, missile launcher opp and heavy missiles all at lvl4.
I was using limos heavy launchers and a BC.
Last time I went up against n assault frig it took me 3 volleys just to get past his shield??
I was firing 1 thermal, 2 explosive and 2 kinetics each volley..
Assaults as a general rule are seriously tanked against kinetic and thermal damage. Only really good means of dispatching them is with EM on shield / Explosive on armor, and even then, only the most foolhardy don't pack a hardener for that.
-----------
Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll. |
Slithereen
|
Posted - 2004.12.21 06:10:00 -
[59]
You're only talking about Caldari and Gallente Assaults. The Minmatar Assaults are stacked against EM damage, while the Amar Assaults are stacked against Explosive Damage.
_______________________________________________
"Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies,
"Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
"Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
|
Slithereen
|
Posted - 2004.12.21 06:10:00 -
[60]
You're only talking about Caldari and Gallente Assaults. The Minmatar Assaults are stacked against EM damage, while the Amar Assaults are stacked against Explosive Damage.
_______________________________________________
"Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies,
"Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
"Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
|
agentsmitty
|
Posted - 2004.12.21 09:35:00 -
[61]
Originally by: lythos miralbar
Quote:
some cruisers are more suited to taking on assault frigs, caracels do it very well, i've taken out 3 assault frigates in my caracel, it usually takes me 3 volleys.
how the hell did you do that??
I have caldari cruiser, missile launcher opp and heavy missiles all at lvl4.
I was using limos heavy launchers and a BC.
Last time I went up against n assault frig it took me 3 volleys just to get past his shield??
I was firing 1 thermal, 2 explosive and 2 kinetics each volley..
all the launchers with kinetics against a wolf, so he didnt have any special resistance to it(he also had either a 1mn MWD or 10mn ab), and the second was a vengeance, i dunno about him, but he was not good.
|
agentsmitty
|
Posted - 2004.12.21 09:35:00 -
[62]
Originally by: lythos miralbar
Quote:
some cruisers are more suited to taking on assault frigs, caracels do it very well, i've taken out 3 assault frigates in my caracel, it usually takes me 3 volleys.
how the hell did you do that??
I have caldari cruiser, missile launcher opp and heavy missiles all at lvl4.
I was using limos heavy launchers and a BC.
Last time I went up against n assault frig it took me 3 volleys just to get past his shield??
I was firing 1 thermal, 2 explosive and 2 kinetics each volley..
all the launchers with kinetics against a wolf, so he didnt have any special resistance to it(he also had either a 1mn MWD or 10mn ab), and the second was a vengeance, i dunno about him, but he was not good.
|
Loka
|
Posted - 2004.12.21 09:51:00 -
[63]
heavy assaul cruiser > cruiser > assault frigs > ceptor > destroyer > frig
this should be the normal chain of food, if the oponents arent completly retard.
_____________________________________
Dead or Alive
|
Loka
|
Posted - 2004.12.21 09:51:00 -
[64]
heavy assaul cruiser > cruiser > assault frigs > ceptor > destroyer > frig
this should be the normal chain of food, if the oponents arent completly retard.
_____________________________________
Dead or Alive
|
Altai Saker
|
Posted - 2004.12.21 11:18:00 -
[65]
ermm.... most Assualt frigs should be able to whipe the floor with regular cruisers.
|
Altai Saker
|
Posted - 2004.12.21 11:18:00 -
[66]
ermm.... most Assualt frigs should be able to whipe the floor with regular cruisers.
|
Snake Jankins
|
Posted - 2004.12.22 05:13:00 -
[67]
Hmm. I am not experienced, but i wonder if they are able to deal enough damage to kill my rupture for example. A webber is in my setup anyway and I'd equip at least a med nos, too.
My usual armor tanking works at least against multiple 40k npc-cruisers or one 110k cruiser e.g. for 10 minutes or so non stop without any problems.
I know, the assault fregattes have extremly good resists, but like I said, I wonder if they are able to do really enough damage on their own to kill my rupture.
|
Snake Jankins
|
Posted - 2004.12.22 05:13:00 -
[68]
Hmm. I am not experienced, but i wonder if they are able to deal enough damage to kill my rupture for example. A webber is in my setup anyway and I'd equip at least a med nos, too.
My usual armor tanking works at least against multiple 40k npc-cruisers or one 110k cruiser e.g. for 10 minutes or so non stop without any problems.
I know, the assault fregattes have extremly good resists, but like I said, I wonder if they are able to do really enough damage on their own to kill my rupture.
|
HostageTaker
|
Posted - 2004.12.22 06:00:00 -
[69]
What a funny topic... heh
Btw, I npc with my Enyo in 0.0, I warp into belts and goto town on multi NPC BS spawns... even tried a 10/10 serp complex... didn't have enough ammo so had to bail...
|
HostageTaker
|
Posted - 2004.12.22 06:00:00 -
[70]
What a funny topic... heh
Btw, I npc with my Enyo in 0.0, I warp into belts and goto town on multi NPC BS spawns... even tried a 10/10 serp complex... didn't have enough ammo so had to bail...
|
Slithereen
|
Posted - 2004.12.22 06:06:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Slithereen on 22/12/2004 06:07:04
Originally by: Snake Jankins
I know, the assault fregattes have extremly good resists, but like I said, I wonder if they are able to do really enough damage on their own to kill my rupture.
They certainly can.
The other half of being an assault are all those turret bonuses (range, damage, tracking, etc,.)
_______________________________________________
"Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies,
"Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
"Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
|
Slithereen
|
Posted - 2004.12.22 06:06:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Slithereen on 22/12/2004 06:07:04
Originally by: Snake Jankins
I know, the assault fregattes have extremly good resists, but like I said, I wonder if they are able to do really enough damage on their own to kill my rupture.
They certainly can.
The other half of being an assault are all those turret bonuses (range, damage, tracking, etc,.)
_______________________________________________
"Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies,
"Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
"Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
|
Hamatitio
|
Posted - 2004.12.22 06:42:00 -
[73]
Cruisers die, even a horribly setup battlecruiser can pwn an assault ship tho 
--
Director of Ganking:
Death Row Inc. |
Hamatitio
|
Posted - 2004.12.22 06:42:00 -
[74]
Cruisers die, even a horribly setup battlecruiser can pwn an assault ship tho
--
Director of Ganking:
Death Row Inc. |
Shamis Orzoz
|
Posted - 2004.12.22 11:07:00 -
[75]
Any cruiser with a lot of missles should beat an assault frig, unless the assault frig is super tanked, but I know the wolf I fly can't handle heavy missle damage for long periods of time. A few wrecking hits early on might still get me through though.
|
Shamis Orzoz
|
Posted - 2004.12.22 11:07:00 -
[76]
Any cruiser with a lot of missles should beat an assault frig, unless the assault frig is super tanked, but I know the wolf I fly can't handle heavy missle damage for long periods of time. A few wrecking hits early on might still get me through though.
|
Alex Harumichi
|
Posted - 2004.12.22 11:09:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Any cruiser with a lot of missles should beat an assault frig, unless the assault frig is super tanked, but I know the wolf I fly can't handle heavy missle damage for long periods of time. A few wrecking hits early on might still get me through though.
True. But now that defenders work more or less, one rocket laucher full of defenders can do worlds of good in reducing that incoming damage.
|
Alex Harumichi
|
Posted - 2004.12.22 11:09:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Any cruiser with a lot of missles should beat an assault frig, unless the assault frig is super tanked, but I know the wolf I fly can't handle heavy missle damage for long periods of time. A few wrecking hits early on might still get me through though.
True. But now that defenders work more or less, one rocket laucher full of defenders can do worlds of good in reducing that incoming damage.
|
Interference
|
Posted - 2004.12.22 11:13:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Semor
hi
with may wolf never lost 2 any croz even take 2 croz down, 1 moa and 1 carcal. i think its not mach of a fight with croz but with an ac i did not fight dont think i can wine unless the othere ac fighter dono what he/she is doing
uhm what?
|
Interference
|
Posted - 2004.12.22 11:13:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Semor
hi
with may wolf never lost 2 any croz even take 2 croz down, 1 moa and 1 carcal. i think its not mach of a fight with croz but with an ac i did not fight dont think i can wine unless the othere ac fighter dono what he/she is doing
uhm what?
|
| |
|
| Pages: 1 2 3 :: [one page] |