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Loka
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: Loka on 15/12/2004 15:19:14 Probably i was to busy carebearing in empire, but what is happening in north.
I read PA is falling appart/surrendering and many corps left PA. The war in north was everyone against PA. Now after the fall of PA, i thought the northern regions would see some peace for at least a couple of months.
Now i read that any alliance in north is falling appart. I read about FU, NORAD, NSA closing borders. I am reading BoB is attacking NSA, for which reason again?
I had all the time the impression the "Nothern Coalition of Alliance" were a strong alliance build from friendship. Where has it gone? Is NSA fighting BoB alone? Were are their allies? Is NSA strong enough to withstand the force put by BoB? Is this a full scale war or just, a friendly visit?
Damn EVE is very chaotic atm. I think only FA is not under pressure atm _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: Loka on 15/12/2004 15:19:14 Probably i was to busy carebearing in empire, but what is happening in north.
I read PA is falling appart/surrendering and many corps left PA. The war in north was everyone against PA. Now after the fall of PA, i thought the northern regions would see some peace for at least a couple of months.
Now i read that any alliance in north is falling appart. I read about FU, NORAD, NSA closing borders. I am reading BoB is attacking NSA, for which reason again?
I had all the time the impression the "Nothern Coalition of Alliance" were a strong alliance build from friendship. Where has it gone? Is NSA fighting BoB alone? Were are their allies? Is NSA strong enough to withstand the force put by BoB? Is this a full scale war or just, a friendly visit?
Damn EVE is very chaotic atm. I think only FA is not under pressure atm _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:13:00 -
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Btw, i reall dont know what going on and some more information would be cool for a poor citizen of Yulai.
So unbiased information would be preferized, but also opinions are of interest.
BUT PLS if you want to flam, hijack another thread thx _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:13:00 -
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Btw, i reall dont know what going on and some more information would be cool for a poor citizen of Yulai.
So unbiased information would be preferized, but also opinions are of interest.
BUT PLS if you want to flam, hijack another thread thx _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:14:00 -
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Read the forums like the rest of us and don't be so lazy.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:14:00 -
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Read the forums like the rest of us and don't be so lazy.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Read the forums like the rest of us and don't be so lazy.
dbp
well iam, but most i read are flames and accusations. A summery would be very welcome. Iam sure some ppl lost already the point, about the norther dispute.
Well iam very interested in EVE politics, even when i retired from it. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Read the forums like the rest of us and don't be so lazy.
dbp
well iam, but most i read are flames and accusations. A summery would be very welcome. Iam sure some ppl lost already the point, about the norther dispute.
Well iam very interested in EVE politics, even when i retired from it. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: Loka on 15/12/2004 15:22:33 But why NCA signed a cease fire with PA, when the outcome, the rage of BoB was almost clear.
Also G and NORAD dont look to help their allies do they? And with NORAD also FA would have to help out. Or arent FA allied with NORAD anymore? _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: Loka on 15/12/2004 15:22:33 But why NCA signed a cease fire with PA, when the outcome, the rage of BoB was almost clear.
Also G and NORAD dont look to help their allies do they? And with NORAD also FA would have to help out. Or arent FA allied with NORAD anymore? _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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pHASE 11
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Loka
Originally by: DB Preacher Read the forums like the rest of us and don't be so lazy.
dbp
well iam, but most i read are flames and accusations. A summery would be very welcome. Iam sure some ppl lost already the point, about the norther dispute.
Well iam very interested in EVE politics, even when i retired from it.
rofl. Nice try but I seems it's hard for the mayority of the posters to do much more than flaming and accusing on this topic.
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pHASE 11
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Loka
Originally by: DB Preacher Read the forums like the rest of us and don't be so lazy.
dbp
well iam, but most i read are flames and accusations. A summery would be very welcome. Iam sure some ppl lost already the point, about the norther dispute.
Well iam very interested in EVE politics, even when i retired from it.
rofl. Nice try but I seems it's hard for the mayority of the posters to do much more than flaming and accusing on this topic.
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Raeff
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:51:00 -
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its just a big game of freeze tag up here .. nothin special .. a little red light/green light every now and again also 
that dbp is a sneaky one at red light/green light 
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Raeff
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:51:00 -
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its just a big game of freeze tag up here .. nothin special .. a little red light/green light every now and again also 
that dbp is a sneaky one at red light/green light 
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Loka Edited by: Loka on 15/12/2004 15:22:33 But why NCA signed a cease fire with PA, when the outcome, the rage of BoB was almost clear.
No, it was cool with us.
It forced the PA to back away from the easier kills they'd been facing and take us head on in Venal.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.15 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Loka Edited by: Loka on 15/12/2004 15:22:33 But why NCA signed a cease fire with PA, when the outcome, the rage of BoB was almost clear.
No, it was cool with us.
It forced the PA to back away from the easier kills they'd been facing and take us head on in Venal.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:01:00 -
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And Curse Alliance and F-E would help NSA now. This information came from the BoB information mininster SirMolle. So the lawful Combatpilots of CURSE would fly side on side with Everlasting Vendetta.... **scary**
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:01:00 -
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And Curse Alliance and F-E would help NSA now. This information came from the BoB information mininster SirMolle. So the lawful Combatpilots of CURSE would fly side on side with Everlasting Vendetta.... **scary**
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell No, it was cool with us.
It forced the PA to back away from the easier kills they'd been facing and take us head on in Venal.
hmm, well but why then there is ane war? Any incident happen or did they say/do something which ****ed BoB off? _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell No, it was cool with us.
It forced the PA to back away from the easier kills they'd been facing and take us head on in Venal.
hmm, well but why then there is ane war? Any incident happen or did they say/do something which ****ed BoB off? _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Asmodia And Curse Alliance and F-E would help NSA now. This information came from the BoB information mininster SirMolle. So the lawful Combatpilots of CURSE would fly side on side with Everlasting Vendetta.... **scary**
I ask here because iam curious, not because iam CA. Iam here as citizen of EVE. No more no less _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Asmodia And Curse Alliance and F-E would help NSA now. This information came from the BoB information mininster SirMolle. So the lawful Combatpilots of CURSE would fly side on side with Everlasting Vendetta.... **scary**
I ask here because iam curious, not because iam CA. Iam here as citizen of EVE. No more no less _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:07:00 -
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well thats a good reason isnt it? Better then searching for a stupid one and more believable. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:07:00 -
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well thats a good reason isnt it? Better then searching for a stupid one and more believable. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Asmodia And Curse Alliance and F-E would help NSA now. This information came from the BoB information mininster SirMolle. So the lawful Combatpilots of CURSE would fly side on side with Everlasting Vendetta.... **scary**
Like Curse helped pa attack nsa ? for all of a week
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Asmodia And Curse Alliance and F-E would help NSA now. This information came from the BoB information mininster SirMolle. So the lawful Combatpilots of CURSE would fly side on side with Everlasting Vendetta.... **scary**
Like Curse helped pa attack nsa ? for all of a week
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Crunschi
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu [...] NORAD has some problems with G, a German alliance near Cloud Ring [...]
You should update your intelligence...
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Crunschi
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu [...] NORAD has some problems with G, a German alliance near Cloud Ring [...]
You should update your intelligence...
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: Asmodia And Curse Alliance and F-E would help NSA now. This information came from the BoB information mininster SirMolle. So the lawful Combatpilots of CURSE would fly side on side with Everlasting Vendetta.... **scary**
Like Curse helped pa attack nsa ? for all of a week
like this, thats was after 100 BS kills and COD was out of ships.
------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |

Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: Asmodia And Curse Alliance and F-E would help NSA now. This information came from the BoB information mininster SirMolle. So the lawful Combatpilots of CURSE would fly side on side with Everlasting Vendetta.... **scary**
Like Curse helped pa attack nsa ? for all of a week
like this, thats was after 100 BS kills and COD was out of ships.
------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |

Moneta
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:18:00 -
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He should update his intelligence, period. Originally by: Aneu Angellus Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Moneta
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:18:00 -
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He should update his intelligence, period. Originally by: Aneu Angellus Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Asmodia
Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: Asmodia And Curse Alliance and F-E would help NSA now. This information came from the BoB information mininster SirMolle. So the lawful Combatpilots of CURSE would fly side on side with Everlasting Vendetta.... **scary**
Like Curse helped pa attack nsa ? for all of a week
like this, thats was after 100 BS kills and COD was out of ships.
So? it didnt help PA did it
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Asmodia
Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: Asmodia And Curse Alliance and F-E would help NSA now. This information came from the BoB information mininster SirMolle. So the lawful Combatpilots of CURSE would fly side on side with Everlasting Vendetta.... **scary**
Like Curse helped pa attack nsa ? for all of a week
like this, thats was after 100 BS kills and COD was out of ships.
So? it didnt help PA did it
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Comnander Marcello
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:40:00 -
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The stupidity of the leaders in CoD/FU/UNICOR/NORAD had them attack PA which was their biggest guarantee of safety in the North. All above are now dead.
Now the remains are getting their own sour socks stuffed in their mouths by Evolution and m0o who wants them to mine for them.
I'm just on the sideline laughing to be honest. 
I'd love to hear Jade's opinion on how miningslavery is concistant with a "free north" 
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Comnander Marcello
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:40:00 -
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The stupidity of the leaders in CoD/FU/UNICOR/NORAD had them attack PA which was their biggest guarantee of safety in the North. All above are now dead.
Now the remains are getting their own sour socks stuffed in their mouths by Evolution and m0o who wants them to mine for them.
I'm just on the sideline laughing to be honest. 
I'd love to hear Jade's opinion on how miningslavery is concistant with a "free north" 
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Moneta
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:43:00 -
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omg, here comes the alt train.
stfu marcello, oyu have nenver had nor ever will have a clue. Originally by: Aneu Angellus Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Moneta
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:43:00 -
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omg, here comes the alt train.
stfu marcello, oyu have nenver had nor ever will have a clue. Originally by: Aneu Angellus Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Moneta
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:56:00 -
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bla bla bla.
Ok, lets just paint things how they are now shall we ? Let's forget about who caused what and who shot why shall we ?
I see no good coming out of this otherwise.
Currently BoB has taken all three PA regions into firm possesion. That is Tenal, Branch and Venal.
PA has been relegated to living in empire and claiming one system (ec-p8r) next to empire with a pos. They do however project no force outside of empire.
Since last week Fade has been more or less deserted by FU as well, with FU in state of liquidation. Currently Fade is under BoB control with the corporations like DIE/KROM/NM working with them in that area.
The lower parts of Pure Blind see regular incursions by all kinds of rifraf like morerecently Teddybears and friends. The otherparts arecontested with BoB and others having forces there regularly.
NSA is refusing the offer of BoB to be part of the new North as we see it. Hence they are getting moved out of Deklein by force if required. NSA will not endure long against war on all fronts either.
That leaves FE and Deviance in control of Tribute, Vale of the Silent and Geminate.
So in short: Venal, Tenal, Branch, Fade: BoB Deklein: contested NSA/BoB Pure Blind: warzone Tribute: DEVIANCE Vale and Geminate: FE
Pretty clear and not much of a mess anymore. Originally by: Aneu Angellus Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Moneta
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:56:00 -
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bla bla bla.
Ok, lets just paint things how they are now shall we ? Let's forget about who caused what and who shot why shall we ?
I see no good coming out of this otherwise.
Currently BoB has taken all three PA regions into firm possesion. That is Tenal, Branch and Venal.
PA has been relegated to living in empire and claiming one system (ec-p8r) next to empire with a pos. They do however project no force outside of empire.
Since last week Fade has been more or less deserted by FU as well, with FU in state of liquidation. Currently Fade is under BoB control with the corporations like DIE/KROM/NM working with them in that area.
The lower parts of Pure Blind see regular incursions by all kinds of rifraf like morerecently Teddybears and friends. The otherparts arecontested with BoB and others having forces there regularly.
NSA is refusing the offer of BoB to be part of the new North as we see it. Hence they are getting moved out of Deklein by force if required. NSA will not endure long against war on all fronts either.
That leaves FE and Deviance in control of Tribute, Vale of the Silent and Geminate.
So in short: Venal, Tenal, Branch, Fade: BoB Deklein: contested NSA/BoB Pure Blind: warzone Tribute: DEVIANCE Vale and Geminate: FE
Pretty clear and not much of a mess anymore. Originally by: Aneu Angellus Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Raeff
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Posted - 2004.12.15 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Moneta bla bla bla.
So in short: Venal, Tenal, Branch, Fade: BoB Deklein: contested NSA/BoB Pure Blind: warzone Tribute: DEVIANCE Vale and Geminate: FE
Pretty clear and not much of a mess anymore.
id say that pretty well covers it
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Raeff
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Posted - 2004.12.15 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Moneta bla bla bla.
So in short: Venal, Tenal, Branch, Fade: BoB Deklein: contested NSA/BoB Pure Blind: warzone Tribute: DEVIANCE Vale and Geminate: FE
Pretty clear and not much of a mess anymore.
id say that pretty well covers it
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Comnander Marcello
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Posted - 2004.12.15 17:54:00 -
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Edited by: Comnander Marcello on 15/12/2004 17:57:21
Originally by: Moneta omg, here comes the alt train.
stfu marcello, oyu have nenver had nor ever will have a clue.
And you can't type Post with your main Moneta
I just think its hillarious how those people fought for some illusionary "freedom" etc etc. Only to now realise they helped "BoB" come into power to dictate them and demand miningtax. I think the only demands NAST had was to not do piracy and to help each other members.
I mean.. c'mon.. this is funny 
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Comnander Marcello
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Posted - 2004.12.15 17:54:00 -
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Edited by: Comnander Marcello on 15/12/2004 17:57:21
Originally by: Moneta omg, here comes the alt train.
stfu marcello, oyu have nenver had nor ever will have a clue.
And you can't type Post with your main Moneta
I just think its hillarious how those people fought for some illusionary "freedom" etc etc. Only to now realise they helped "BoB" come into power to dictate them and demand miningtax. I think the only demands NAST had was to not do piracy and to help each other members.
I mean.. c'mon.. this is funny 
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Moneta
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Posted - 2004.12.15 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Comnander Marcello
Originally by: Moneta omg, here comes the alt train.
stfu marcello, oyu have nenver had nor ever will have a clue.
And you can't spell Post with your main Moneta
Moneta IS a main you sod.
You really lack info don't you ? Tried looking at what is under my name on the left ? E.V.O.L.U.T.I.O.N spells a synonym for M.A.I.N.
Now, go play with some rocks and leave the people that actually have something left to do in the north to their own. Originally by: Aneu Angellus Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Moneta
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Posted - 2004.12.15 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Comnander Marcello
Originally by: Moneta omg, here comes the alt train.
stfu marcello, oyu have nenver had nor ever will have a clue.
And you can't spell Post with your main Moneta
Moneta IS a main you sod.
You really lack info don't you ? Tried looking at what is under my name on the left ? E.V.O.L.U.T.I.O.N spells a synonym for M.A.I.N.
Now, go play with some rocks and leave the people that actually have something left to do in the north to their own. Originally by: Aneu Angellus Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Uther Agnoius
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Posted - 2004.12.15 18:09:00 -
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I wouldn't say deviance is in control of tribute, they are a rag tag group of miners who have been using that region only because atm there is no need for it. They once in awhile like to pretend to be elite pvpers.. come 20 jumps, log off and spend the next 2 days getting prodded. They aslo resemble PA when it comes to a hostile force in tribute, safespot, smack and hope they leave.
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Uther Agnoius
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Posted - 2004.12.15 18:09:00 -
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I wouldn't say deviance is in control of tribute, they are a rag tag group of miners who have been using that region only because atm there is no need for it. They once in awhile like to pretend to be elite pvpers.. come 20 jumps, log off and spend the next 2 days getting prodded. They aslo resemble PA when it comes to a hostile force in tribute, safespot, smack and hope they leave.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.15 18:14:00 -
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Still, as long as nooone challenges them, that makes them in control. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.15 18:14:00 -
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Still, as long as nooone challenges them, that makes them in control. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.12.15 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: Asmodia
Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: Asmodia And Curse Alliance and F-E would help NSA now. This information came from the BoB information mininster SirMolle. So the lawful Combatpilots of CURSE would fly side on side with Everlasting Vendetta.... **scary**
Like Curse helped pa attack nsa ? for all of a week
like this, thats was after 100 BS kills and COD was out of ships.
So? it didnt help PA did it
I would adress this question to PA. I dont want to make a Jade, but NCA disbanded after all.
------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |

Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.12.15 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: Asmodia
Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: Asmodia And Curse Alliance and F-E would help NSA now. This information came from the BoB information mininster SirMolle. So the lawful Combatpilots of CURSE would fly side on side with Everlasting Vendetta.... **scary**
Like Curse helped pa attack nsa ? for all of a week
like this, thats was after 100 BS kills and COD was out of ships.
So? it didnt help PA did it
I would adress this question to PA. I dont want to make a Jade, but NCA disbanded after all.
------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |

Icomeinpeace
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Posted - 2004.12.15 19:40:00 -
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Whats that you say?Whats happening up north?
Why,I'm not too sure whats going on up there good fellow!
*Whistles innocently*
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Icomeinpeace
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Posted - 2004.12.15 19:40:00 -
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Whats that you say?Whats happening up north?
Why,I'm not too sure whats going on up there good fellow!
*Whistles innocently*
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.12.15 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Lol, you have no idea on what happend right, Asmodia?
You think NCA couldn't handle CA, or even NSA alone?
Heh.
LOL, looks like you have no idea.
Who can handle CA ? We sell clues in HLW, you know ?
But serious, the question of Ra were gone out of topic and a good answer would be very long and i have better things to do then discuse all ascepts of our campains and the disbanding of NCA.
Back to now and this NSA thing. IF (thats a Big IF) CA want to help NSA, a lot of things must be done and IF (next if) this will be accepted by the CA members that can not one answer. This means 'peacetalks' and/or temporary 'ceasefires' and we dont want to forget that some NSA corps are KOS not for fun. Want more details 
------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |

Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.12.15 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Lol, you have no idea on what happend right, Asmodia?
You think NCA couldn't handle CA, or even NSA alone?
Heh.
LOL, looks like you have no idea.
Who can handle CA ? We sell clues in HLW, you know ?
But serious, the question of Ra were gone out of topic and a good answer would be very long and i have better things to do then discuse all ascepts of our campains and the disbanding of NCA.
Back to now and this NSA thing. IF (thats a Big IF) CA want to help NSA, a lot of things must be done and IF (next if) this will be accepted by the CA members that can not one answer. This means 'peacetalks' and/or temporary 'ceasefires' and we dont want to forget that some NSA corps are KOS not for fun. Want more details 
------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |

SweatySack
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Posted - 2004.12.15 19:44:00 -
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In response to the original post, the war with NSA is a full blown invasion...not a weekend visit. You will see bob fighting in Deklein until a deal is reached or NSA disbands.
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SweatySack
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Posted - 2004.12.15 19:44:00 -
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In response to the original post, the war with NSA is a full blown invasion...not a weekend visit. You will see bob fighting in Deklein until a deal is reached or NSA disbands.
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.12.15 20:11:00 -
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eh ? It was not me that was talking about 'helping' the NSA. It was BoB that was talking about it.
I agree that I cannot see CA as 'white knights in shining armors' in the north to save NSA.
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.12.15 20:11:00 -
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eh ? It was not me that was talking about 'helping' the NSA. It was BoB that was talking about it.
I agree that I cannot see CA as 'white knights in shining armors' in the north to save NSA.
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2004.12.15 20:11:00 -
[61]
Quote: Currently BoB has taken all three PA regions into firm possesion. That is Tenal, Branch and Venal.
The question I have, is what do BoB intend to do with these regions? BoB's corps don't strike me as the sort of people that are interested in claiming territory and defending it for the mining rights. Are BoB planning on setting up a formal alliance?
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2004.12.15 20:11:00 -
[62]
Quote: Currently BoB has taken all three PA regions into firm possesion. That is Tenal, Branch and Venal.
The question I have, is what do BoB intend to do with these regions? BoB's corps don't strike me as the sort of people that are interested in claiming territory and defending it for the mining rights. Are BoB planning on setting up a formal alliance?
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.12.15 21:13:00 -
[63]
short without the problems:
The war with FA is near at a dead point. No FA really fight CA anymore. Silent cripping peace...
Empire war is with XETIC is our great fun, to get free fleet, we would need to talk to xetic to end the war.
Temporary ceasefire with XETIC/SE ..
Curse would be able to make a 100% full scale attack.
BUT no one want all this stuff, we are happy with our fights so, very very difficult to find a majority inside CA for this.
and NSA have corps like EV and some kicked former CA corps. they is a lot of old bad blood.
And generell it is a thing of our image. We play the baddies in Eve (or ppl think we are). I can not see that we give up this and start stuff like 'CA fights for your freedom'. That is really not my thing to run around and tell everyone we fight a good war, coz our enemies are the ebil of mankind. **scary**
Next step would be, 'We are a anti-pirate alliance and fight this scum every where we see them'
CA is not a alliance that like to sit on a high moral horse, thats the short version. ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |

Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.12.15 21:13:00 -
[64]
short without the problems:
The war with FA is near at a dead point. No FA really fight CA anymore. Silent cripping peace...
Empire war is with XETIC is our great fun, to get free fleet, we would need to talk to xetic to end the war.
Temporary ceasefire with XETIC/SE ..
Curse would be able to make a 100% full scale attack.
BUT no one want all this stuff, we are happy with our fights so, very very difficult to find a majority inside CA for this.
and NSA have corps like EV and some kicked former CA corps. they is a lot of old bad blood.
And generell it is a thing of our image. We play the baddies in Eve (or ppl think we are). I can not see that we give up this and start stuff like 'CA fights for your freedom'. That is really not my thing to run around and tell everyone we fight a good war, coz our enemies are the ebil of mankind. **scary**
Next step would be, 'We are a anti-pirate alliance and fight this scum every where we see them'
CA is not a alliance that like to sit on a high moral horse, thats the short version. ------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |

Nestor Ne'Arthe
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Posted - 2004.12.15 21:16:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Wanoah
Quote: Currently BoB has taken all three PA regions into firm possesion. That is Tenal, Branch and Venal.
The question I have, is what do BoB intend to do with these regions? BoB's corps don't strike me as the sort of people that are interested in claiming territory and defending it for the mining rights. Are BoB planning on setting up a formal alliance?
Guess they'll rent the space to empire corps that need access to 0.0 space. While not guarding the pureblind for free passage. And when the agreement time runs out, they'll shoot them out of the space, and invite some newer corps :) Rinse, wash, repeat.
And they will find customers for this service, since deep 0.0 is too valueable to pass on that one.. :) -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
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Nestor Ne'Arthe
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Posted - 2004.12.15 21:16:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Wanoah
Quote: Currently BoB has taken all three PA regions into firm possesion. That is Tenal, Branch and Venal.
The question I have, is what do BoB intend to do with these regions? BoB's corps don't strike me as the sort of people that are interested in claiming territory and defending it for the mining rights. Are BoB planning on setting up a formal alliance?
Guess they'll rent the space to empire corps that need access to 0.0 space. While not guarding the pureblind for free passage. And when the agreement time runs out, they'll shoot them out of the space, and invite some newer corps :) Rinse, wash, repeat.
And they will find customers for this service, since deep 0.0 is too valueable to pass on that one.. :) -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.12.15 21:35:00 -
[67]
A lot of people with no involvement, no clue and faulty information pretending to know whats going on and trying to second guess Bob strategy.
You'll all get to know exactly whats going on when we want you to, until then happy speculating.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.12.15 21:35:00 -
[68]
A lot of people with no involvement, no clue and faulty information pretending to know whats going on and trying to second guess Bob strategy.
You'll all get to know exactly whats going on when we want you to, until then happy speculating.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2004.12.15 21:39:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Blacklight A lot of people with no involvement, no clue and faulty information pretending to know whats going on and trying to second guess Bob strategy.
You'll all get to know exactly whats going on when we want you to, until then happy speculating.
I have no involvement, no clue, and faulty information (provided by these august forums), but I am curious!
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2004.12.15 21:39:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Blacklight A lot of people with no involvement, no clue and faulty information pretending to know whats going on and trying to second guess Bob strategy.
You'll all get to know exactly whats going on when we want you to, until then happy speculating.
I have no involvement, no clue, and faulty information (provided by these august forums), but I am curious!
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.15 21:48:00 -
[71]
Nestor, you are waaay to grim about us. 
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Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.15 21:48:00 -
[72]
Nestor, you are waaay to grim about us. 
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Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Obidios
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Posted - 2004.12.15 23:30:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Well, some months ago, NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD agreed to sign a cease fire with PA. Basicly, PA was getting hurt every day by BoB, and they felt it would be the best for both sides to sign a cease fire. (I was a council member of Unicor/NSA at the time).
heh, okay... shure. Don't you mean NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD were getting hurt by PA everyday? PA got it handed to them by BOB for the most part. But NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD got it handed to them by PA. -----------------
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Obidios
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Posted - 2004.12.15 23:30:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Well, some months ago, NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD agreed to sign a cease fire with PA. Basicly, PA was getting hurt every day by BoB, and they felt it would be the best for both sides to sign a cease fire. (I was a council member of Unicor/NSA at the time).
heh, okay... shure. Don't you mean NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD were getting hurt by PA everyday? PA got it handed to them by BOB for the most part. But NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD got it handed to them by PA. -----------------
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.12.15 23:51:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Obidios Don't you mean NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD were getting hurt by PA everyday? PA got it handed to them by BOB for the most part. But NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD got it handed to them by PA.
Not entirely true, a PA fleet never really made it past the entrance to NORAD space and being the only corp from NORAD really fighting the PA daily I can assure the only thing handed to us was a lot of loot 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.12.15 23:51:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Obidios Don't you mean NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD were getting hurt by PA everyday? PA got it handed to them by BOB for the most part. But NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD got it handed to them by PA.
Not entirely true, a PA fleet never really made it past the entrance to NORAD space and being the only corp from NORAD really fighting the PA daily I can assure the only thing handed to us was a lot of loot 
Eve Blacklight Style
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2004.12.15 23:54:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Obidios Don't you mean NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD were getting hurt by PA everyday? PA got it handed to them by BOB for the most part. But NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD got it handed to them by PA.
Not entirely true, a PA fleet never really made it past the entrance to NORAD space and being the only corp from NORAD really fighting the PA daily I can assure the only thing handed to us was a lot of loot 
Agreed.
RONA-KIA made it to XZH-C4 once I think, maybe twice, both times they were chased out though Syndicate into Empire so to say NORAD were getting their arse handed to them is a little wrong to say the least.
Black Nova Corporation COO |

DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2004.12.15 23:54:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Obidios Don't you mean NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD were getting hurt by PA everyday? PA got it handed to them by BOB for the most part. But NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD got it handed to them by PA.
Not entirely true, a PA fleet never really made it past the entrance to NORAD space and being the only corp from NORAD really fighting the PA daily I can assure the only thing handed to us was a lot of loot 
Agreed.
RONA-KIA made it to XZH-C4 once I think, maybe twice, both times they were chased out though Syndicate into Empire so to say NORAD were getting their arse handed to them is a little wrong to say the least.
Black Nova Corporation COO |

Obidios
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Posted - 2004.12.15 23:55:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Obidios on 15/12/2004 23:55:54
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Obidios Don't you mean NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD were getting hurt by PA everyday? PA got it handed to them by BOB for the most part. But NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD got it handed to them by PA.
Not entirely true, a PA fleet never really made it past the entrance to NORAD space and being the only corp from NORAD really fighting the PA daily I can assure the only thing handed to us was a lot of loot 
True, true. I was lazy and copied the "NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD" bit from the other guys post - NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU Got it handed to them by PA I mean 
Ex PA boys doing ok down there though... The G unit. -----------------
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Obidios
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Posted - 2004.12.15 23:55:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Obidios on 15/12/2004 23:55:54
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Obidios Don't you mean NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD were getting hurt by PA everyday? PA got it handed to them by BOB for the most part. But NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD got it handed to them by PA.
Not entirely true, a PA fleet never really made it past the entrance to NORAD space and being the only corp from NORAD really fighting the PA daily I can assure the only thing handed to us was a lot of loot 
True, true. I was lazy and copied the "NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD" bit from the other guys post - NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU Got it handed to them by PA I mean 
Ex PA boys doing ok down there though... The G unit. -----------------
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Karmae
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Posted - 2004.12.16 00:56:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Well, some months ago, NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD agreed to sign a cease fire with PA. Basicly, PA was getting hurt every day by BoB, and they felt it would be the best for both sides to sign a cease fire. (I was a council member of Unicor/NSA at the time)
They felt that the main reason why they attacked PA wasn't really an issue anymore, therefore no need to continue the war. NCA stopped to exist from that day on.
It's great that after all this time CoD still can't admit they got creamed by R-K and CE plus other PA corps. As war raged around them they still had pilots that judged it would be safe to mine in 0.0 with a raven with 4 miner 2's and 4 launchers full of defenders (I watched one of these from a safe distance in a crow once for sheer entertainment value as Guristas pwned him). I hope they don't have the same idiots flying with them now.
Another reason CoD/FU dropped their wars was the fact they were sold a whole bunch of snake oil from their 'friends' and foolishly believed that by attacking the PA they were fighting for their freedom. Eventually they appeared to realise that their coalition of 'similarly minded friends 'weren't quite as similarly minded, or indeed cohesive, as they had been lead to believe.
Still, what comes around goes around.
Deklien were in an unfortunate position as the nearest PA target. It took balls for them to take the path the chose, and props to them for that. Maybe now they see the greater picture that the PA was looking at wasn't quite so bad after all.
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Karmae
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Posted - 2004.12.16 00:56:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Well, some months ago, NSA(CoD&Unicor)/FU/NORAD agreed to sign a cease fire with PA. Basicly, PA was getting hurt every day by BoB, and they felt it would be the best for both sides to sign a cease fire. (I was a council member of Unicor/NSA at the time)
They felt that the main reason why they attacked PA wasn't really an issue anymore, therefore no need to continue the war. NCA stopped to exist from that day on.
It's great that after all this time CoD still can't admit they got creamed by R-K and CE plus other PA corps. As war raged around them they still had pilots that judged it would be safe to mine in 0.0 with a raven with 4 miner 2's and 4 launchers full of defenders (I watched one of these from a safe distance in a crow once for sheer entertainment value as Guristas pwned him). I hope they don't have the same idiots flying with them now.
Another reason CoD/FU dropped their wars was the fact they were sold a whole bunch of snake oil from their 'friends' and foolishly believed that by attacking the PA they were fighting for their freedom. Eventually they appeared to realise that their coalition of 'similarly minded friends 'weren't quite as similarly minded, or indeed cohesive, as they had been lead to believe.
Still, what comes around goes around.
Deklien were in an unfortunate position as the nearest PA target. It took balls for them to take the path the chose, and props to them for that. Maybe now they see the greater picture that the PA was looking at wasn't quite so bad after all.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:45:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Icomeinpeace Whats that you say?Whats happening up north?
Why,I'm not too sure whats going on up there good fellow!
*Whistles innocently*
He's holding something back, I ASSURE YOU! Reverend Necrona |

Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:45:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Icomeinpeace Whats that you say?Whats happening up north?
Why,I'm not too sure whats going on up there good fellow!
*Whistles innocently*
He's holding something back, I ASSURE YOU! Reverend Necrona |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:48:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Luc Boye on 16/12/2004 02:53:20
Nestor is just an angry fan, first DDNN broke up, then OS left PA, and him copying two editions of EVOL sigs didn't help.  --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.12.16 02:48:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Luc Boye on 16/12/2004 02:53:20
Nestor is just an angry fan, first DDNN broke up, then OS left PA, and him copying two editions of EVOL sigs didn't help.  --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.12.16 07:35:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Karmae,
I want to be clear about something here. I'm ex-NSA, so I don't need to admit that CoD was getting beat up by PA, as I never was a member of CoD.
To be quite honest, where ever you came from and where ever you are now the simple facts are that you have no clue, have no clue, have no clue and have no clue.
Please go be insignificant somewhere else where your opinion is more valuable than not at all.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.12.16 07:35:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu Karmae,
I want to be clear about something here. I'm ex-NSA, so I don't need to admit that CoD was getting beat up by PA, as I never was a member of CoD.
To be quite honest, where ever you came from and where ever you are now the simple facts are that you have no clue, have no clue, have no clue and have no clue.
Please go be insignificant somewhere else where your opinion is more valuable than not at all.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Nestor Ne'Arthe
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Posted - 2004.12.16 08:54:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Rod Blaine Nestor, you are waaay to grim about us. 
I'm not grim, i'm just extrapolating the upcoming events, and trying being realistic.. :)
I like being humorous too, like that intercepted chatlog below (originally from "Kung-Pow: Fist of fury")
Starring ; SirMolle as Mr.Pain aka Betty, BoB as The Evil Council
*two guys run into hq* - Master bet..Molle, they're still alive, they're still alive.. - Still alive, how can that be? This is bad, this is very bad. Council will not be pleased. - But Molle, do they have to know? - They're supposed to be dead, i am responsible! They alone can disrupt the Evil Councils plan! They and those infernal carebears! - Master molle, might i inquire, what is the Evil Councils plan? - It is evil! *Nyaaa* It is SO evil! It is a bad bad plan. That will hurt many people that are good. I think its great because it is so bad! - I.. i see. But what of the northern alliances? - I'll kill them, i'll kill them dead. Like with a rock or something , like a .. like a stone..
Cheers! -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
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Nestor Ne'Arthe
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Posted - 2004.12.16 08:54:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Rod Blaine Nestor, you are waaay to grim about us. 
I'm not grim, i'm just extrapolating the upcoming events, and trying being realistic.. :)
I like being humorous too, like that intercepted chatlog below (originally from "Kung-Pow: Fist of fury")
Starring ; SirMolle as Mr.Pain aka Betty, BoB as The Evil Council
*two guys run into hq* - Master bet..Molle, they're still alive, they're still alive.. - Still alive, how can that be? This is bad, this is very bad. Council will not be pleased. - But Molle, do they have to know? - They're supposed to be dead, i am responsible! They alone can disrupt the Evil Councils plan! They and those infernal carebears! - Master molle, might i inquire, what is the Evil Councils plan? - It is evil! *Nyaaa* It is SO evil! It is a bad bad plan. That will hurt many people that are good. I think its great because it is so bad! - I.. i see. But what of the northern alliances? - I'll kill them, i'll kill them dead. Like with a rock or something , like a .. like a stone..
Cheers! -- Portfolio (currently .PL only) - nestor.art.pl
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.12.16 10:09:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Kronarty on 16/12/2004 10:10:20
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu I for one already know for months Rona, R-K, Oberon, and some other PA corps would leave the alliance and join CA. It was just a matter of time really.
Err, we joined CA?
I guess your corp needs to find another "Head of Intelligence Gathering"...
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.12.16 10:09:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Kronarty on 16/12/2004 10:10:20
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu I for one already know for months Rona, R-K, Oberon, and some other PA corps would leave the alliance and join CA. It was just a matter of time really.
Err, we joined CA?
I guess your corp needs to find another "Head of Intelligence Gathering"...
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Auman
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Posted - 2004.12.16 10:20:00 -
[93]
Quote: Secondly, there were only 2 sides in the beginning of the Great Northern War, the NCA and PA. NCA was hurting PA, period.
lol, please. The corps that eventually formed BOB were the ones that hurt the PA. If the war had only ever been NCA vs PA you would be refining your ore in a PA station in Deklain now.
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Auman
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Posted - 2004.12.16 10:20:00 -
[94]
Quote: Secondly, there were only 2 sides in the beginning of the Great Northern War, the NCA and PA. NCA was hurting PA, period.
lol, please. The corps that eventually formed BOB were the ones that hurt the PA. If the war had only ever been NCA vs PA you would be refining your ore in a PA station in Deklain now.
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.12.16 10:46:00 -
[95]
NCA fell along time ago mate. was arround the same time that completely conincidentally jade left the game (his reason was cos his forum ban). anyhow pa is still about doubtless in turmoil atm but there is a great potential to turn whats left intoa close nitt colection of peeps ready and willing to fight.
thats yet to materialise but the players are in place.
as for bob theyre roaming and ganking. this will proably continue for a while until the north as a whole realises that alliances dont matter when going agisnt bob. in the past theres been the feeling of "oh were not been attacked, lets carebare it up and build a fleet for when they do attack and we will pwn them" bob inevitably prove this wrong.
there isnt an alliance in the north that can organise well enought all its members well enougth to be a threat to bob. all they have to worry about is the small gangs of 10 or less roaming arorund killing their haulers.
once the north acts as a whole thou bob will be having a difrent time. ironically enought NAST would have made sure the alliances banded together to fight bob in the first place. either by clever manipulation or thru luck (depending on who u belive) bob has made the norht turn on its self. divde and concqure. not sure if it was bob itself that did that or if it was elements from all the alliances with the wonderfull help of jade constatine.
so... WAKE UP NORTH
mgk
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.12.16 10:46:00 -
[96]
NCA fell along time ago mate. was arround the same time that completely conincidentally jade left the game (his reason was cos his forum ban). anyhow pa is still about doubtless in turmoil atm but there is a great potential to turn whats left intoa close nitt colection of peeps ready and willing to fight.
thats yet to materialise but the players are in place.
as for bob theyre roaming and ganking. this will proably continue for a while until the north as a whole realises that alliances dont matter when going agisnt bob. in the past theres been the feeling of "oh were not been attacked, lets carebare it up and build a fleet for when they do attack and we will pwn them" bob inevitably prove this wrong.
there isnt an alliance in the north that can organise well enought all its members well enougth to be a threat to bob. all they have to worry about is the small gangs of 10 or less roaming arorund killing their haulers.
once the north acts as a whole thou bob will be having a difrent time. ironically enought NAST would have made sure the alliances banded together to fight bob in the first place. either by clever manipulation or thru luck (depending on who u belive) bob has made the norht turn on its self. divde and concqure. not sure if it was bob itself that did that or if it was elements from all the alliances with the wonderfull help of jade constatine.
so... WAKE UP NORTH
mgk
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.12.16 11:09:00 -
[97]
Originally by: magickangaroo
once the north acts as a whole thou bob will be having a difrent time. ironically enought NAST would have made sure the alliances banded together to fight bob in the first place. either by clever manipulation or thru luck (depending on who u belive) bob has made the norht turn on its self. divde and concqure. not sure if it was bob itself that did that or if it was elements from all the alliances with the wonderfull help of jade constatine.
so... WAKE UP NORTH
mgk
Sorry mate, the North is officially BoB'ed.
At DT today, we control all stations in Deklein, Branch, Venal, Tenal and DiE/Krom/Nem control Fade... and if you read the patch notes, you will see why that is specifically important today.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.12.16 11:09:00 -
[98]
Originally by: magickangaroo
once the north acts as a whole thou bob will be having a difrent time. ironically enought NAST would have made sure the alliances banded together to fight bob in the first place. either by clever manipulation or thru luck (depending on who u belive) bob has made the norht turn on its self. divde and concqure. not sure if it was bob itself that did that or if it was elements from all the alliances with the wonderfull help of jade constatine.
so... WAKE UP NORTH
mgk
Sorry mate, the North is officially BoB'ed.
At DT today, we control all stations in Deklein, Branch, Venal, Tenal and DiE/Krom/Nem control Fade... and if you read the patch notes, you will see why that is specifically important today.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Moneta
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Posted - 2004.12.16 11:10:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Moneta on 16/12/2004 11:12:01 Well, only thing the North is about to wake up to after downtime and patch is not being able to dock anywhere north of the pure-blind > venal > tribute line.
Except for us ofc.
I'm curious what the effect will be. Originally by: Aneu Angellus Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Moneta
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Posted - 2004.12.16 11:10:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Moneta on 16/12/2004 11:12:01 Well, only thing the North is about to wake up to after downtime and patch is not being able to dock anywhere north of the pure-blind > venal > tribute line.
Except for us ofc.
I'm curious what the effect will be. Originally by: Aneu Angellus Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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rocket
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Posted - 2004.12.16 11:19:00 -
[101]
Remember to take a POS shields down with 15 battleships took 50 hours, so with 50+ ships its still going to take 5 hrs plus, and then your at a dissadvantage and vunrable 
I wonder how the NSA is going to function now ? all there stuff possibly blueprints trapped inside these stations.
Least the Ex-PA members GODS was smart and moved all there stuff out with indys last night -
04:54 MA-VDX Marcus Arailius Generals Of... Tempest Details 04:53 MA-VDX Luther Lightbringer Generals Of... Caracal Details 04:53 MA-VDX Tartamlaz Generals Of... Armageddon Details 04:52 N-5476 pershphanie Generals Of... Apocalypse Details 04:51 MA-VDX Uraniumslug Generals Of... Raven Details 04:50 MA-VDX The Cursed Generals Of... Scorpion Details 04:50 MA-VDX Tumadra Generals Of... Apocalypse Details

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rocket
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Posted - 2004.12.16 11:19:00 -
[102]
Remember to take a POS shields down with 15 battleships took 50 hours, so with 50+ ships its still going to take 5 hrs plus, and then your at a dissadvantage and vunrable 
I wonder how the NSA is going to function now ? all there stuff possibly blueprints trapped inside these stations.
Least the Ex-PA members GODS was smart and moved all there stuff out with indys last night -
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Auman
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Posted - 2004.12.16 15:27:00 -
[103]
As far as I was aware and from what I remember from the flame wars on this forum Evol and m0o stated they were not part of the NCA and were fighting PA for their own reasons.
It was those two corps that were doing most of the damage to PA (during my timezone). RKK were effective in combination with them as well. I'm not trying to flame the fighters from the NCA but I don't recall them causing major problems for PA as the war progressed.
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Auman
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Posted - 2004.12.16 15:27:00 -
[104]
As far as I was aware and from what I remember from the flame wars on this forum Evol and m0o stated they were not part of the NCA and were fighting PA for their own reasons.
It was those two corps that were doing most of the damage to PA (during my timezone). RKK were effective in combination with them as well. I'm not trying to flame the fighters from the NCA but I don't recall them causing major problems for PA as the war progressed.
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Koval
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Posted - 2004.12.16 16:04:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Koval on 16/12/2004 16:14:59
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu you may believe CoD/FU/Norad/Unicor, etc... didn't do much damage, but remember, even cannon fodder is usefull in a war...
in fact they did a lot of damage, they forced PA to send the fleet out of venal leaving bob alone. Believe or not, before PA sent fleets to deklein and fade, BOB (without bnc and atuk) was forced to hide. When PA fleet (weakened after few months of fighting) came back to venal bob gained bnc, atuk + many single corps like rough-necks, dab, salmissra, dreamsmiths, and sol confederation consisting of another 5-8 corps.
Quote: But if PA was beating up NSA/FU/Norad, why did they sign the ceasefire then? I mean, if your winning, you don't back down cause your victim ask for it politely? That's called mercy, and it has a bit of a bad taste as I recall...
we had way too few numbers to fight bob and nca together, nca was choosen to kill first because they were weakest of our all enemies, so after nca threat was no more we could focus on our main enemy - bob, but bob didn't sleep, they were growing
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Koval
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Posted - 2004.12.16 16:04:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Koval on 16/12/2004 16:14:59
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu you may believe CoD/FU/Norad/Unicor, etc... didn't do much damage, but remember, even cannon fodder is usefull in a war...
in fact they did a lot of damage, they forced PA to send the fleet out of venal leaving bob alone. Believe or not, before PA sent fleets to deklein and fade, BOB (without bnc and atuk) was forced to hide. When PA fleet (weakened after few months of fighting) came back to venal bob gained bnc, atuk + many single corps like rough-necks, dab, salmissra, dreamsmiths, and sol confederation consisting of another 5-8 corps.
Quote: But if PA was beating up NSA/FU/Norad, why did they sign the ceasefire then? I mean, if your winning, you don't back down cause your victim ask for it politely? That's called mercy, and it has a bit of a bad taste as I recall...
we had way too few numbers to fight bob and nca together, nca was choosen to kill first because they were weakest of our all enemies, so after nca threat was no more we could focus on our main enemy - bob, but bob didn't sleep, they were growing
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.12.16 16:50:00 -
[107]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: magickangaroo
once the north acts as a whole thou bob will be having a difrent time. ironically enought NAST would have made sure the alliances banded together to fight bob in the first place. either by clever manipulation or thru luck (depending on who u belive) bob has made the norht turn on its self. divde and concqure. not sure if it was bob itself that did that or if it was elements from all the alliances with the wonderfull help of jade constatine.
so... WAKE UP NORTH
mgk
Sorry mate, the North is officially BoB'ed.
At DT today, we control all stations in Deklein, Branch, Venal, Tenal and DiE/Krom/Nem control Fade... and if you read the patch notes, you will see why that is specifically important today.
dbp
/me scuries off to find these patch notes u speak of, and find they go over my head apart from they*****ed with the crow again :P
yep bob is in the north but with luck peeps will pull their fingers out and we can have a good ol barny
mgk
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.12.16 16:50:00 -
[108]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: magickangaroo
once the north acts as a whole thou bob will be having a difrent time. ironically enought NAST would have made sure the alliances banded together to fight bob in the first place. either by clever manipulation or thru luck (depending on who u belive) bob has made the norht turn on its self. divde and concqure. not sure if it was bob itself that did that or if it was elements from all the alliances with the wonderfull help of jade constatine.
so... WAKE UP NORTH
mgk
Sorry mate, the North is officially BoB'ed.
At DT today, we control all stations in Deklein, Branch, Venal, Tenal and DiE/Krom/Nem control Fade... and if you read the patch notes, you will see why that is specifically important today.
dbp
/me scuries off to find these patch notes u speak of, and find they go over my head apart from they*****ed with the crow again :P
yep bob is in the north but with luck peeps will pull their fingers out and we can have a good ol barny
mgk
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.12.16 17:04:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Shirei on 16/12/2004 17:04:26 Yeh, those conquerable stations are gonna be annoying to take over now with ~40 mil HP (or whatever they have now).
But, if you look at the other parts of the patch notes, you'll see that conquerable stations will become way less important anyway because useful POS refining arrays are coming out as well. If/when factory POS modules come out (or are they out already, I can't remember atm), it should be pretty much possible to operate completely from a few POS.
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.12.16 17:04:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Shirei on 16/12/2004 17:04:26 Yeh, those conquerable stations are gonna be annoying to take over now with ~40 mil HP (or whatever they have now).
But, if you look at the other parts of the patch notes, you'll see that conquerable stations will become way less important anyway because useful POS refining arrays are coming out as well. If/when factory POS modules come out (or are they out already, I can't remember atm), it should be pretty much possible to operate completely from a few POS.
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.12.16 17:09:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 16/12/2004 17:04:26 Yeh, those conquerable stations are gonna be annoying to take over now with ~40 mil HP (or whatever they have now).
But, if you look at the other parts of the patch notes, you'll see that conquerable stations will become way less important anyway because useful POS refining arrays are coming out as well. If/when factory POS modules come out (or are they out already, I can't remember atm), it should be pretty much possible to operate completely from a few POS.
aw crap
there goes my plan of taking bkg back with a crow :(
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.12.16 17:09:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 16/12/2004 17:04:26 Yeh, those conquerable stations are gonna be annoying to take over now with ~40 mil HP (or whatever they have now).
But, if you look at the other parts of the patch notes, you'll see that conquerable stations will become way less important anyway because useful POS refining arrays are coming out as well. If/when factory POS modules come out (or are they out already, I can't remember atm), it should be pretty much possible to operate completely from a few POS.
aw crap
there goes my plan of taking bkg back with a crow :(
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.12.16 17:17:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 16/12/2004 17:04:26 Yeh, those conquerable stations are gonna be annoying to take over now with ~40 mil HP (or whatever they have now).
But, if you look at the other parts of the patch notes, you'll see that conquerable stations will become way less important anyway because useful POS refining arrays are coming out as well. If/when factory POS modules come out (or are they out already, I can't remember atm), it should be pretty much possible to operate completely from a few POS.
Yah but for the moment everyone has their stuff in BoB's stations ^^
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.12.16 17:17:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 16/12/2004 17:04:26 Yeh, those conquerable stations are gonna be annoying to take over now with ~40 mil HP (or whatever they have now).
But, if you look at the other parts of the patch notes, you'll see that conquerable stations will become way less important anyway because useful POS refining arrays are coming out as well. If/when factory POS modules come out (or are they out already, I can't remember atm), it should be pretty much possible to operate completely from a few POS.
Yah but for the moment everyone has their stuff in BoB's stations ^^
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.12.16 19:20:00 -
[115]
/me strokes his freindly raven in bkg station thru the asset function for the time being
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.12.16 19:20:00 -
[116]
/me strokes his freindly raven in bkg station thru the asset function for the time being
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Obidios
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Posted - 2004.12.16 19:25:00 -
[117]
Hey, no fair. I still have corpses in V7-MID I wanted to collect  -----------------
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Obidios
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Posted - 2004.12.16 19:25:00 -
[118]
Hey, no fair. I still have corpses in V7-MID I wanted to collect  -----------------
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ponieus
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Posted - 2004.12.16 19:47:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 16/12/2004 17:04:26 Yeh, those conquerable stations are gonna be annoying to take over now with ~40 mil HP (or whatever they have now).
But, if you look at the other parts of the patch notes, you'll see that conquerable stations will become way less important anyway because useful POS refining arrays are coming out as well. If/when factory POS modules come out (or are they out already, I can't remember atm), it should be pretty much possible to operate completely from a few POS.
yes but your missing the point that the POS can be destroyed.. and with the right setups very easily i might add.. The conquerable stations can only be taken over with hours of pounding ..
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ponieus
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Posted - 2004.12.16 19:47:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 16/12/2004 17:04:26 Yeh, those conquerable stations are gonna be annoying to take over now with ~40 mil HP (or whatever they have now).
But, if you look at the other parts of the patch notes, you'll see that conquerable stations will become way less important anyway because useful POS refining arrays are coming out as well. If/when factory POS modules come out (or are they out already, I can't remember atm), it should be pretty much possible to operate completely from a few POS.
yes but your missing the point that the POS can be destroyed.. and with the right setups very easily i might add.. The conquerable stations can only be taken over with hours of pounding ..
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Berta Kriel
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Posted - 2004.12.16 20:20:00 -
[121]
What's happening North...?
Not much.. 
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Berta Kriel
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Posted - 2004.12.16 20:20:00 -
[122]
What's happening North...?
Not much.. 
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Maiwenn LeBesc0
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Posted - 2004.12.16 22:13:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu
Let me clear this up.
NCA= RKK, JF, CoD, Unicor, FU, Norad, Puke, Evol.
You think you're seeing the big picture here? Plz, if you do, enlighten me... 
We were never a part of the NCA.
Evolution made me TOO LAZY to change my sig. |

Maiwenn LeBesc0
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Posted - 2004.12.16 22:13:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Mastiphal Nosferatu
Let me clear this up.
NCA= RKK, JF, CoD, Unicor, FU, Norad, Puke, Evol.
You think you're seeing the big picture here? Plz, if you do, enlighten me... 
We were never a part of the NCA.
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Vilas
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Posted - 2004.12.17 03:34:00 -
[125]
From reading all the posts over the last few weeks (and trying to take an objective view from it all) it seems to me that BoB, not only have the capacity to take the majority of the north, but they ARE taking it.
There is a lot of speculation as to what they will do with it once they have it and the current hostilities cease (yes there will still be some small pockets of resistance.
I'm guessing (as I dont know any of them) that once they own it, they wont want to simply leave it and move on. Who would after the hours of gameplay that have been put into it? They have undoubtedly suffered losses that will need to be replenished. And I doubt they will attempt a "CFS" style open space system.......we all know how that ended 
Situations like this have a habit of growing beyond any one corps control, suddenly there will be dozens of corps hoping to get access to their space and wanting to join. The ranks will swell and the 5th major alliance of EVE is born.
Of course, I could be wrong (it has been known).... none of this may happen, they may suddenly decide to move to Yulai and mine veld or renounce their violent ways and turn the north into a 0.0 'hippy love in bring ur own blue pills comune' a 'WTFIMMASHED' system of government as i like to call it.
Whatever the outcome......I't wont affect me . So good luck to everyone.
(My bets on the hippy thing)
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Vilas
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Posted - 2004.12.17 03:34:00 -
[126]
From reading all the posts over the last few weeks (and trying to take an objective view from it all) it seems to me that BoB, not only have the capacity to take the majority of the north, but they ARE taking it.
There is a lot of speculation as to what they will do with it once they have it and the current hostilities cease (yes there will still be some small pockets of resistance.
I'm guessing (as I dont know any of them) that once they own it, they wont want to simply leave it and move on. Who would after the hours of gameplay that have been put into it? They have undoubtedly suffered losses that will need to be replenished. And I doubt they will attempt a "CFS" style open space system.......we all know how that ended 
Situations like this have a habit of growing beyond any one corps control, suddenly there will be dozens of corps hoping to get access to their space and wanting to join. The ranks will swell and the 5th major alliance of EVE is born.
Of course, I could be wrong (it has been known).... none of this may happen, they may suddenly decide to move to Yulai and mine veld or renounce their violent ways and turn the north into a 0.0 'hippy love in bring ur own blue pills comune' a 'WTFIMMASHED' system of government as i like to call it.
Whatever the outcome......I't wont affect me . So good luck to everyone.
(My bets on the hippy thing)
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.12.17 04:38:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Vilas From reading all the posts over the last few weeks (and trying to take an objective view from it all) it seems to me that BoB, not only have the capacity to take the majority of the north, but they ARE taking it.
There is a lot of speculation as to what they will do with it once they have it and the current hostilities cease (yes there will still be some small pockets of resistance.
I'm guessing (as I dont know any of them) that once they own it, they wont want to simply leave it and move on. Who would after the hours of gameplay that have been put into it? They have undoubtedly suffered losses that will need to be replenished. And I doubt they will attempt a "CFS" style open space system.......we all know how that ended 
Situations like this have a habit of growing beyond any one corps control, suddenly there will be dozens of corps hoping to get access to their space and wanting to join. The ranks will swell and the 5th major alliance of EVE is born.
Of course, I could be wrong (it has been known).... none of this may happen, they may suddenly decide to move to Yulai and mine veld or renounce their violent ways and turn the north into a 0.0 'hippy love in bring ur own blue pills comune' a 'WTFIMMASHED' system of government as i like to call it.
Whatever the outcome......I't wont affect me . So good luck to everyone.
(My bets on the hippy thing)
Swings but hits only air.
Strike 1 -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.12.17 04:38:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Vilas From reading all the posts over the last few weeks (and trying to take an objective view from it all) it seems to me that BoB, not only have the capacity to take the majority of the north, but they ARE taking it.
There is a lot of speculation as to what they will do with it once they have it and the current hostilities cease (yes there will still be some small pockets of resistance.
I'm guessing (as I dont know any of them) that once they own it, they wont want to simply leave it and move on. Who would after the hours of gameplay that have been put into it? They have undoubtedly suffered losses that will need to be replenished. And I doubt they will attempt a "CFS" style open space system.......we all know how that ended 
Situations like this have a habit of growing beyond any one corps control, suddenly there will be dozens of corps hoping to get access to their space and wanting to join. The ranks will swell and the 5th major alliance of EVE is born.
Of course, I could be wrong (it has been known).... none of this may happen, they may suddenly decide to move to Yulai and mine veld or renounce their violent ways and turn the north into a 0.0 'hippy love in bring ur own blue pills comune' a 'WTFIMMASHED' system of government as i like to call it.
Whatever the outcome......I't wont affect me . So good luck to everyone.
(My bets on the hippy thing)
Swings but hits only air.
Strike 1 -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
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