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Bloodpetal
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Posted - 2012.07.27 00:18:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Powers Sa wrote: So you're shooting for 80k per unit prices?
One of the goals up until the beginning of phase two is for Tech to continue being the best moon in the game by a large margin. Grath Telkin wrote:
Ok i still love you but I'm right.
Once upon a time all it took to generate conflict was a prophet foreseeing the destruction of an alliance and fulfilling his own prophecy. I don't believe those days are gone.
Don't listen to the nonsense about "WAAH THERE WILL BE NO CONFLICT DRIVERS!!!"
There will be. They will be called MINERS. They will be players that mine. And they will be out there mining. And then people will want to kill them. Because this is EVE. And those people that are killed will want people to kill the people killing them. And then you will have conflict.
Period. The end.
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Bloodpetal
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Posted - 2012.07.27 00:47:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote: While we realize this will be a multi stage release, the boredom of 0.0 wont make it until some november release, we need MORE things to drive conflicts NOW not later, and taking the last thing left out isn't really the best idea.
So go shoot all the Cobalt and platinum moons.
Plenty of conflict to be had there. It would be financially worth it to stop those moons from being mined.
What? That's not financially motivating enough?
I guess attacking a 9 Trillion ISK a week bloc that has no interest in generating conflict isn't worth driving conflict, hence your "conflict drivers" are a load of crap. Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |

Bloodpetal
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Posted - 2012.07.27 13:34:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:Bloodpetal wrote: I guess attacking a 9 Trillion ISK a week bloc that has no interest in generating conflict isn't worth driving conflict, hence your "conflict drivers" are a load of crap.
also in case it wasn't clear enough you were bad at math 400 tech moons is a high estimate let us assume tech is 200k that's 5.7 trillion from tech moons per month: all tech moons, everywhere (you're asserting a income of ~36t isk per month) so you were only off by a factor of 6 or so if our "bloc" owned every tech moon in the game
I was simply using Grath Telkin's reference to a 9 Trillion ISK Straw.
Grath Telkin wrote:Bloodpetal wrote: wrote:
When Ring mining comes out there will be.
They will be called MINERS. They will be players that mine. And they will be out there mining. And then people will want to kill them.
No, actually they wont die, their scout 2 jumps over will have reported incoming hostiles long before the miners themselves are ever in danger and they'll then POS up or dock up thanks to the 20 large bubbles they'll anchor on their ingates. Glad to see you play EVE in 0.0.
Glad you didn't win the Tournament this year. It is true PL sucks without super caps.
Oh, and the whole "ya we invaded Delve crap" was explicitly and REPEATEDLY cited as a point of how Tech was NOT the conflict driver and is gonna be carried across the finish line by the CCP Devs as the reason why Tech can be nerfed without destroying the EVE Conflict drivers. You already signed your own death knell.
The results of the Delve war, more importantly than anything else, showed that there was absolutely NO FINANCIAL incentive to attack Delve other than "ya, they pissed us off", Despite Gareth's insinutations.
The true revelations of the Delve war were that OTEC are so overwhelming that one of the most "anticipated wars in EVE" ended in less than a week because the other 0.0 alliances realized it would be financial ruin to face up against OTEC in an extended war scenario because of the sheer volume of income available.
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Posted - 2012.07.27 22:09:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Bloodpetal wrote:The true revelations of the Delve war were that OTEC are so overwhelming that one of the most "anticipated wars in EVE" ended in less than a week because the other 0.0 alliances realized it would be financial ruin to face up against OTEC in an extended war scenario because of the sheer volume of income available. You're making assumptions here. "They didn't fight back because they realized it would ruin them." Or maybe they didn't fight back because they're -A- and their strategy has always been to not fight back when invaded? There are forum and jabber logs from spies demonstrating that allowing us to take the space and re-invading later, like they always do, was their plan all along.
The reason they use this tactic is because they know it's financially unfeasible to face off.
Whatever you want to say about why -A- does this in the past, or if they're cowards, etc, etc... moving in to take the space back after everyone has gotten bored from it inherently means there will be less resistance to re-occupying the territory and thus an economically less destructive victory.
IF -A- had the income and assets to throw at the war then we'd probably have a different discussion. Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
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