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Marcus Gideon
Gallente
Federal Defense Operations
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Posted - 2010.07.01 16:40:00 -
[1]
Everyone's thinking it...
You build a colony, position who knows how many Extractors, link them all here and there. And then what?
Every day, you log in, and aggravate your carpel tunnel by having to resurvey and reset every single one.
So how's about we get a quick option through the command center (which is otherwise a completely useless object).
[Reset Extractors]
- [5 minute cycle]
- [15 minute cycle]
- [30 minute cycle]
- [1 hour cycle]
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Cassandra O'Brien
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Posted - 2010.07.01 17:08:00 -
[2]
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Original Sin.
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Posted - 2010.07.01 18:10:00 -
[3]
I'll go one better: it should allow you to set up batch jobs, so that you only ever need to set up the chain of production once.
although this would require CCP to have competent UI design.
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Jasdemi
Caldari Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.07.01 18:54:00 -
[4]
Agree
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REMOVE LEARNINGS, FFS! |
fightingblind
Gallente
Cryptonym Sleepers
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.07.02 01:42:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: Miyamoto Isoruku
I'll go one better: it should allow you to set up batch jobs, so that you only ever need to set up the chain of production once.
although this would require CCP to have competent UI design.
CCP set it up without batch jobs for a good reason. They don't want people to have to spend 24/7 doing planetary interaction, but they also don't want people to be able to go for more than a couple days without checking their PI. That's what a mini-game design is supposed to be about, and I applaud CCP for this one. Although the 1-click extractors would be nice.
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Darveses
DAEDALUS X
The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2010.07.02 12:32:00 -
[6]
Supported.
While its a good thing that you have to check in more often for more efficiency, it doesnt have to be a drag when you do.
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Clovermite
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Posted - 2010.07.02 19:12:00 -
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I really like PI, and I think that overall, they did a really good job with its UI.
As a former game development student, I can appreciate how difficult it is to come up with simple details that convey a lot of information (like the rings on the pins).
This is a great idea that would make the UI even better.
**APPROVED**
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Nhayel
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Posted - 2010.07.02 19:18:00 -
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Dardol
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Posted - 2010.07.02 19:56:00 -
[9]
supported.
they did a great job with PI, this is my only gripe to date.
Cheers!
Dardol
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Mayyee
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Posted - 2010.07.02 20:11:00 -
[10]
OMG MY HAND HURTZ! |
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Niklos Reynard
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Posted - 2010.07.03 04:16:00 -
[11]
Thumbs up! |
Arminas Montello
Gallente
ECM Space Patrol
Mission Runners Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.03 04:38:00 -
[12]
I have to agree on this suggestion. Having to reset my 4 planets with a combined total of 49 extractors is a pain in the arse.
*thumbs up*
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Brisket Ham
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Posted - 2010.07.03 12:45:00 -
[13]
I'd give this a thumbs up but my hand is packet so tightly from carpal tunnel damage that I can barely move my wrist at all.
This message was written with my tongue.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2010.07.03 12:56:00 -
[14]
This will effitiently create an army of alts that are just trained for extraction , which will make all your stuff worthless.
You sure you want that to happen ?
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Marcus Gideon
Federal Defense Operations
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Posted - 2010.07.07 19:10:00 -
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Ha ha, forgot to support myself. |
Javajunky
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Posted - 2010.07.07 19:50:00 -
[16]
One click to restart all extractors for previous cycle would be perfect.
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Brengholl
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Posted - 2010.07.07 22:05:00 -
[17]
i was just about to propose the exact same thing as the OP
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Astria Tiphareth
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2010.07.08 05:40:00 -
[18]
I couldn't agree more to this. Down with RSI!
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Environmental Effects
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Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.08 05:47:00 -
[19]
I have not read the other post but is there realy anyone that dont want this?
Hell Ya Supported!!!
Is it a rock? Point a Lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship? Point a Lazer at it and profit. I dont realy see any differnces here. |
Z800XV
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Posted - 2010.07.08 07:59:00 -
[20]
Originally by: fightingblind
CCP set it up without batch jobs for a good reason. They don't want people to have to spend 24/7 doing planetary interaction, but they also don't want people to be able to go for more than a couple days without checking their PI. That's what a mini-game design is supposed to be about, and I applaud CCP for this one. Although the 1-click extractors would be nice.
+1.
other who support idea are crying multialt carebears.must be painful cheking 20 planets ))) so CRY MORE NO ONE HEAR YOU.
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2010.07.08 11:03:00 -
[21]
Would someone please think of the orthopaedic surgeons!
PI was designed to increase carpal tunnel syndrome, so those poor specialized surgeons can make some money, not so that someone might enjoy a game (perish the thought!).
Seriously, PI should be renamed to Carpal Tunnel Interaction. I don't think there could be enough profit to get me actually use it. |
Madner Kami
Durendal Ascending
Gentlemen's Interstellar Nightclub
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Posted - 2010.07.08 11:19:00 -
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Jade Knight07
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Posted - 2010.07.08 11:40:00 -
[23]
This or something similar would help A LOT!
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WNxWolfy
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Posted - 2010.07.08 11:45:00 -
[24]
Definitely supported. Currently PI is incredibly time consuming and tedious.
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Arklan1
Dunedain Rangers
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Posted - 2010.08.07 02:15:00 -
[25]
oh so very supported. the click fest actually has me NOT logging in, due to "ugh... i don't wanna deal with it!"
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Aion Amarra
Real Nice And Laidback Corporation
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.07 04:09:00 -
[26]
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Sandra Rodriguez
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Posted - 2010.08.07 15:24:00 -
[27]
PI is probably the least labor intensive activity in EVE and you want to make it easier? Having to spend 10-15 minutes a day on a passive income too much to deal with? Hell, if that's too much for you why not avail of the 5 day cycle? Better yet, why not just leave PI for the ones that actually appreciate the income?
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2010.08.09 17:36:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Sandra Rodriguez
PI is probably the least labor intensive activity in EVE
Say what?
Please tell, what did you use as comparison? Mining is less clicking, farming datacores surely is. I'd wager that even running missions requires less clicks than PI. |
IDieAlotInGateCamps
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Posted - 2010.08.09 21:50:00 -
[29]
+1 for support
-1 for carpal tunnel syndrome
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Tset Tsun
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Posted - 2010.08.09 23:19:00 -
[30]
I would have typed this in myself and shown my support but I had to have my friend do it for me since I can't move my hand after all of that 'clicking'!!
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.08.10 03:52:00 -
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Scan, move extractors, set routes, click "reset extractors", be done with it.
Ideally each simple route would take all the extractor's capacity to the single target storage (so I don't have to set the extraction amount, remember that number, then independently set the routing amount, but one step at a time :)
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Onyc Tolip
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Posted - 2010.08.10 07:32:00 -
[32]
Batch jobs = bad
Otherwise I have to support this. I currently manage 18 planets, hoping to make it a full 25 within the next couple of weeks. just clicking the buttons for the extractors takes almost 30 minutes.
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Zorn Baderdash
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Posted - 2010.08.10 10:50:00 -
[33]
Support this. No need to make it -faster-, just make it less clicky.
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Norath84
The Executives
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:25:00 -
[34]
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Nidellor
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Posted - 2010.08.11 12:41:00 -
[35]
Supported. |
Techis
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Posted - 2010.08.11 13:53:00 -
[36]
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Yeay Fritg
Confrerie de Kaedri
Cluster Of Rebirth
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Posted - 2010.08.11 13:56:00 -
[37]
Signed.
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Nakomode
Crit Line
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Posted - 2010.08.11 14:55:00 -
[38]
Good idea
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Incedo corp
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Posted - 2010.08.11 18:40:00 -
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xlam
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Posted - 2010.08.11 19:02:00 -
[40]
/signed
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Izumrudinka
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Posted - 2010.08.11 19:04:00 -
[41]
+1 good idea
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DimCas
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Posted - 2010.08.11 20:02:00 -
[42]
yep
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ramep
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Posted - 2010.08.12 05:29:00 -
[43]
Submit!
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Inkahran
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Posted - 2010.08.12 05:36:00 -
[44]
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Foxbet
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Posted - 2010.08.12 05:55:00 -
[45]
+1 Good idea
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Xantor Bludberry
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Posted - 2010.08.12 06:09:00 -
[46]
+1
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Takumi Ryou
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Posted - 2010.08.12 06:28:00 -
[47]
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Aijle Mijleroff
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Posted - 2010.08.12 07:08:00 -
[48]
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LetItbee
D.T.P.
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Posted - 2010.08.12 10:17:00 -
[49]
+1
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FiberFly
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Posted - 2010.08.12 12:00:00 -
[50]
Supported.
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C Spawn
Burnaboyz
ROL.Citizens
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Posted - 2010.08.12 14:23:00 -
[51]
I totally support that idea.
Over. |
Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
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Posted - 2010.08.12 14:28:00 -
[52]
+1
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Porkose
SA - Department of Manufactures
Crusaders of Space
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:10:00 -
[53]
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myego
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Posted - 2010.08.12 20:59:00 -
[54]
+1 for support
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Mad Ved
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Posted - 2010.08.16 13:21:00 -
[55]
+1
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Don Salty
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Posted - 2010.08.16 15:38:00 -
[56]
+1 Good idea
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DJohnson
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Posted - 2010.08.16 17:49:00 -
[57]
Approved.
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BATTM
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Posted - 2010.08.16 18:59:00 -
[58]
+1
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BENDER 1
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Posted - 2010.08.16 19:03:00 -
[59]
+1
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Skitter Brightblade
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Posted - 2010.08.16 19:48:00 -
[60]
I like what Marcus Gideon said:
So how's about we get a quick option through the command center (which is otherwise a completely useless object).
[Reset Extractors]
- [5 minute cycle]
- [15 minute cycle]
- [30 minute cycle]
- [1 hour cycle]
This is a great idea, since I have 5 planets with about 20 extractors per (resetting around 100 extractors takes up too much time...and my poor wrist hurts  )
Those who caution about the alts...well there are alts out there that are strictly for mining. I've seen them. One person with a few extra cheap comps or lappy's and they have a whole mining fleet of alts. It's already been done, so why whine about it...
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Astroka
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Posted - 2010.08.17 23:38:00 -
[61]
Supported, this is the main reason I pretty much don't bother with planetary interaction.
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Worad Green
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Posted - 2010.08.18 12:31:00 -
[62]
+1 supported!
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Cypreion
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Posted - 2010.08.18 15:00:00 -
[63]
-1 Not supported.
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Jeddeita
Lead Farmers
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Posted - 2010.08.18 15:28:00 -
[64]
Anything that helps cut down on the potential of RSI from PI is warmly supported...
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Ten Leto
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Posted - 2010.08.19 22:25:00 -
[65]
supported. god this would be useful.
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Nonnosa
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Posted - 2010.08.22 03:27:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Skitter Brightblade
I like what Marcus Gideon said:
So how's about we get a quick option through the command center (which is otherwise a completely useless object).
[Reset Extractors]
- [5 minute cycle]
- [15 minute cycle]
- [30 minute cycle]
- [1 hour cycle]
I have been managing only 2 planets for less than a week and was going to start a topic suggesting this.
I don't think it would stop macros, only make it easier to write the program.
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AncientGuardian
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2010.08.22 10:03:00 -
[67]
+1
I cant stand the click fest. I too was thinking about proposing this idea, but the OP actually was able to put it into words, Thank you OP. You are Awesome.
Quote:
'Last night I played a blank tape at full blast. The mime next door went nuts'
Quote:
If I ever saw an amputee getting hanged, I would start yelling out letters.
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Stephin SuIdama
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Posted - 2010.08.22 10:05:00 -
[68]
Supported!! |
Rikki Sals
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Posted - 2010.08.22 18:55:00 -
[69]
Supported.
I remember in one of CCP's vids, a dev said they were designing PI to be a feature for a "thinking man's game". When 90% of your interaction with the feature is repetitive clicking... enough said.
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Marcus Gideon
Gallente
Federal Defense Operations
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Posted - 2010.08.23 06:18:00 -
[70]
Originally by: AncientGuardian
+1
I cant stand the click fest. I too was thinking about proposing this idea, but the OP actually was able to put it into words, Thank you OP. You are Awesome.
/takes a bow
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CommanderData211
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Posted - 2010.08.24 06:19:00 -
[71]
Please god yes.
I understand that CCP want planetary interaction to be engaging, but this mindless click-fest is not the way to do it. Going to every single extractor and clicking, waiting for the scan, then selecting your deposit is absolutely FUBAR. It doesn't encourage any sort of thought beyond inspiring the desire to drill holes into ones own head.
I find setting up PI to actually be a very cathartic and rewarding experience. You start to see your colony grow, and sometimes it takes on shapes that you didn't even plan for. Squeezing every last bit of power-grid out of your CC's can be a fun little strategy game. And then THE FUN DIES.
There is no reason to not batch extractors. I see the logic behind "working" for your passive income, at least a little bit, but what we have here is not work. It is a waste of time. The dynamic nature of setting your PI up in the first place is work. But when everything is set up, there is no more thinking involved, so why force us to click 100+ times like mindless slavering drones?
Incidentally, I'm not raging about this because I just want things to go faster. The heart of this issue is that there is nothing more you really need to do after you set things up. Now if CCP were kind enough to make PI a more fluid and organic experience, I would happily click away and be content with spending my time doing it. Until then though, please let us batch extractors on a planet!
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Alexander Third
Gallente
Crystal Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.25 01:49:00 -
[72]
This is really needed. If you read my signature you'll understand why.
tyrannis is the farmville of eve online |
Theel Maas
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.08.25 09:06:00 -
[73]
oh god yes
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Moron78
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Posted - 2010.08.25 10:28:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Moron78 on 25/08/2010 10:31:43
edit: trained reading to I and found support button.
Posting is an excuse for not working... |
Raid'En
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Posted - 2010.08.25 22:32:00 -
[75]
hope this will be including on the PI content of the winter extension ^^
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NeovonPoet
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Posted - 2010.08.26 13:07:00 -
[76]
Edited by: NeovonPoet on 26/08/2010 13:07:34
Edited by: NeovonPoet on 26/08/2010 13:06:58
Hell yes. I have 2 chars doing a production chain in a c4 wh. thats aprox 70+ extractors. It's no fun to turn them all on every single day. The colecting and bringing them to the central procesing planet I do like eaven though that part can get me killed.
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Smoogle
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Posted - 2010.08.26 20:40:00 -
[77]
Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes!
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ziloc
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Posted - 2010.08.31 08:32:00 -
[78]
+1 Support this topic
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QT McWhiskers
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Posted - 2010.08.31 19:05:00 -
[79]
SOOOO Much this.
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Uurakaii
Obsidian Forge
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Posted - 2010.08.31 22:08:00 -
[80]
i have an almost identical thread, sorry didn't see yours, but hey you got my support :)
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1375627
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John'eh
Asteroid Belt Protection Services
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Posted - 2010.09.01 10:46:00 -
[81]
+1
- John'eh
Your Critics Are Your Best Friends, because they help you find your faults and help you improve to be better. Don't take my criticisms personally, I care about Eve just as much as you |
Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.09.01 12:16:00 -
[82]
Not supported.
The PI market will crash if such a change is introduced without replacing it with a brainsink. Not fun, but without a more complex and engaging PI system it's all that we have in term of barrier to entry.
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Ishtvaan
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Posted - 2010.09.01 13:31:00 -
[83]
PLEASE!
+1
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Malcolm Roberts
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Posted - 2010.09.01 18:02:00 -
[84]
So say we all!
+1
If you need an in-game reason, an old Atari could have been programmed to switch on multiple extractors. Are you seriously suggesting the computers in the EVE universe can't do that? 
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Captain Torgo
The Geedunk Expedition
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:04:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Not supported.
The PI market will crash if such a change is introduced without replacing it with a brainsink. Not fun, but without a more complex and engaging PI system it's all that we have in term of barrier to entry.
I find the name of your corp and the insanity of your post highly ironic.
Well played, good troll. Well played.
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Zaron Sassanian
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:18:00 -
[86]
My right hand is in favor or this option.
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Syn Callibri
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:57:00 -
[87]
1. click
2. click
3. click
4. click
5. ?????
6. Carpal tunnel syndrome
7. profit?
I support this thread!
Syn Callibri
Mistress of the Blood Pact
"Naut-elghinyrr" of Vulkor-Khaine
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Borgholio
Quantum Industries
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2010.09.02 22:16:00 -
[88]
+1
I support this idea. I agree that PI should not be an automated ISK sink, but the number of clicks needed is ridiculous. Look at Starbases...every time you unload the silo you just offline it, unload, online it, and you're done. Why does PI have to be so much more tedious?
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Mayham Jack
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.09.03 19:40:00 -
[89]
supported, it would be nice for a one button refresh button to restart the extraction processes.... i spend nearly an hour a night resetting all 6 planets on my character this would reduce that time dramaticly
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Aelana Anais
LiveTech
Cold Fusion Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.03 21:04:00 -
[90]
I trained up all my PI skills and even got elite level command centers set up great colonies... and never use them for precisely this reason.
I don't mind CCP requiring me to interact with them... but making it so damn well inconvenient when I do means PI == fail without this.
لللل
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Jenis Joplin
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Posted - 2010.09.05 09:55:00 -
[91]
+1 support
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I SoStoned
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Posted - 2010.09.05 21:23:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Syn Callibri
1. click
2. click
3. click
4. click
5. ?????
6. Carpal tunnel syndrome
7. ctrl-Q
PI has simply caused me to quit the game, let the POS run out of fuel, let my skill ques run dry, and not give a damn any more. I'm just waiting for my submission cycles to end, now.
It was a fun seven years, but with the release of things like PI, and the upcoming Second-Life in space, I no longer find the game to be the least bit engaging.
S'long. All my stuff has been locked away on a holding alt. If I come back, for whatever reason, it'll be there. If not, count two dozen T2 BPOs removed from the game.
Bai.
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Denidil
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.09.05 22:15:00 -
[93]
sup
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ArchE
Minmatar
The First Foundation
SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2010.09.06 17:09:00 -
[94]
+1 to the topic.
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Nikos Kraxteer
The First Foundation
SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2010.09.07 12:23:00 -
[95]
signed
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Kalnov
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2010.09.08 05:14:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Mayyee
OMG MY HAND HURTZ!
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.09.08 07:10:00 -
[97]
Honestly, if I wanted to click this crap endlessly, I'd go play Farmville or something.
I, for one, welcome our new zombie overlords. |
Alexander Spa
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Posted - 2010.09.11 08:13:00 -
[98]
+1 supported!
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Ardamalis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.12 06:23:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Ardamalis on 12/09/2010 06:23:46
Taking away the time sink but shifting productity to active playtime, I like it.
/Signed
However 5 minutes is a lil over the top (think of the huge advantage people using bots get). The numbers could be adjusted a bit like 25 min, 55 min, 1hr 30 min, 2 hrs 10 min. |
MinerArt
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Posted - 2010.09.12 14:58:00 -
[100]
Edited by: MinerArt on 12/09/2010 14:59:22
Originally by: Miyamoto Isoruku
I'll go one better: it should allow you to set up batch jobs, so that you only ever need to set up the chain of production once.
although this would require CCP to have competent UI design.
I agree with this. They didn't make POS a visit daily and reset all the production lines thing so there's no reason this shouldn't be the same.
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Luminus Mallus
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Posted - 2010.09.15 05:30:00 -
[101]
Already started a thread on overall PI ui solutions.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1378839
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Reithan
THORN Syndicate
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.15 05:47:00 -
[102]
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Marcus Gideon
Gallente
Federal Defense Operations
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Posted - 2010.09.15 16:10:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Ardamalis
However 5 minutes is a lil over the top (think of the huge advantage people using bots get). The numbers could be adjusted a bit like 25 min, 55 min, 1hr 30 min, 2 hrs 10 min.
Originally by: Marcus Gideon
So how's about we get a quick option through the command center (which is otherwise a completely useless object).
[Reset Extractors]
- [5 minute cycle]
- [15 minute cycle]
- [30 minute cycle]
- [1 hour cycle]
[Submit]
Ahh, I see. That's because the 5min Cycle Time depletes after 30min.
Originally by: Luminus Mallus
Already started a thread on overall PI ui solutions.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1378839
Mine's been here longer =P |
Luminus Mallus
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Posted - 2010.09.22 17:04:00 -
[104]
It's not a very thorough proposition, but surely would help remedy the ridiculous annoyment of current planetary interaction.
what were they thinking when they set up the million clics per planet, I really don't know. It's simply stupid and absurd, and annoying.
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Max Dominion
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Posted - 2010.09.23 13:00:00 -
[105]
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.23 13:07:00 -
[106]
Originally by: IDieAlotInGateCamps
+1 for support
-1 for carpal tunnel syndrome
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Marcus Gideon
Gallente
Federal Defense Operations
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Posted - 2010.09.24 17:42:00 -
[107]
Updated the OP, so there's less timing confusion.
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One Button Extractors |
Kogh Ayon
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Posted - 2010.09.29 22:38:00 -
[108]
I dont do anything on my colonies now just because the endless clicking are broing.
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Jessica Fyers
Azure Horizon
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Posted - 2010.10.01 07:40:00 -
[109]
Most definitely approved, its a chore to click a few hundred times per character...
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Erik Legant
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Posted - 2010.10.01 13:06:00 -
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Max Sellmore
Neo Corp
The Ronin Brotherhood
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Posted - 2010.10.01 20:24:00 -
[111]
I would settle for being able to use ctrl-click to select multiple extractors, and then set a cycle time.
And how about if you have run a scan the extractor remembers the last scan if you click on something else before you set the extractor cycle? Why do you have to scan twice! 
Max Sellmore
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Arnold Predator
Special Situations
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Posted - 2010.10.04 03:13:00 -
[112]
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Kali Minar
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Posted - 2010.10.09 10:40:00 -
[113]
supported
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Kogh Ayon
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Posted - 2010.11.16 19:11:00 -
[114]
It was tired
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Gallians
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Posted - 2010.11.16 19:13:00 -
[115]
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DrakesPWNDrakesPWN
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Posted - 2010.11.17 22:30:00 -
[116]
Not supported, It would make eve's UI to intuitive and user friendly. And that wouldn't be in line with the rest of the game. (sarcasm, +1)
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