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Vicker Lahn'se
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Posted - 2004.12.17 04:16:00 -
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A change in the missile system is needed very much, especialy after the latest propulsion nerf. There is now no way to defend against a salvo of missiles. Missiles are the super weapon that beats all. It used to be you could have a chance by outrunning them. Now they made it so that missiles lead their targets and their targets can't move.
Turrets have to deal with accuracy issues. The downside of missiles is supposed to be whether or not they can actualy reach their target. CCP has completely erased the downside of missiles now. They will always hit. The only possible solution left to counter missiles is defender missiles, and those will only take one missile down. Every single defender aims for the same missile, leaving all the others.
CCP keeps releasing more and more updates that favor missiles. The public outcry against this keeps growing with every patch, yet CCP is ignoring it.
One of two things needs to happen. The first option is a substantial way to counter missiles. Either make defenders each seek unique targets or perhaps make point defence guns, anti missile drones, etc.
The second option is to nerf the missiles. Make them do less damage, introduce dud missiles, make them miss their targets and explode off to the side occasionally, anything.
Why doesn't CCP fix this? People are demanding that CCP nerf missiles, so what do they do? They make missiles lead their targets and nerf propulsion. Way to go, guys! Keep it up.
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Vicker Lahn'se
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Posted - 2004.12.17 04:16:00 -
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A change in the missile system is needed very much, especialy after the latest propulsion nerf. There is now no way to defend against a salvo of missiles. Missiles are the super weapon that beats all. It used to be you could have a chance by outrunning them. Now they made it so that missiles lead their targets and their targets can't move.
Turrets have to deal with accuracy issues. The downside of missiles is supposed to be whether or not they can actualy reach their target. CCP has completely erased the downside of missiles now. They will always hit. The only possible solution left to counter missiles is defender missiles, and those will only take one missile down. Every single defender aims for the same missile, leaving all the others.
CCP keeps releasing more and more updates that favor missiles. The public outcry against this keeps growing with every patch, yet CCP is ignoring it.
One of two things needs to happen. The first option is a substantial way to counter missiles. Either make defenders each seek unique targets or perhaps make point defence guns, anti missile drones, etc.
The second option is to nerf the missiles. Make them do less damage, introduce dud missiles, make them miss their targets and explode off to the side occasionally, anything.
Why doesn't CCP fix this? People are demanding that CCP nerf missiles, so what do they do? They make missiles lead their targets and nerf propulsion. Way to go, guys! Keep it up.
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.12.17 04:38:00 -
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If missles are so wtfuber, how come I see 2 gankageddons/apocs for every raven?
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.12.17 04:38:00 -
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If missles are so wtfuber, how come I see 2 gankageddons/apocs for every raven?
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Psychomar
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Posted - 2004.12.17 04:44:00 -
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If you fill out this form I've made I'm sure the Dev's will respond. 
BALANCE COMPLAINT:
Dear Mr. Dev,
My name is (your name here) and I have a complaint about balance in the game. Currently the (your ship here) is very underpowered due to (pick a mod here). Currently the (put your enemies ship here) is vastly overpowered and this is unfair. I feel the (your ship here) should be given a (insert number 1-100) times boost in (select ship cpu, powergrid or armor) to compensate for this obvious balance issue. If this can not be done please nerf the (enemy ship type here) immediately.
Thank you,
(your name here)
 YARR!
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Psychomar
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Posted - 2004.12.17 04:44:00 -
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If you fill out this form I've made I'm sure the Dev's will respond.
BALANCE COMPLAINT:
Dear Mr. Dev,
My name is (your name here) and I have a complaint about balance in the game. Currently the (your ship here) is very underpowered due to (pick a mod here). Currently the (put your enemies ship here) is vastly overpowered and this is unfair. I feel the (your ship here) should be given a (insert number 1-100) times boost in (select ship cpu, powergrid or armor) to compensate for this obvious balance issue. If this can not be done please nerf the (enemy ship type here) immediately.
Thank you,
(your name here)
YARR!
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Jemson Brightson
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Posted - 2004.12.17 04:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jemson Brightson on 17/12/2004 04:51:35
I find the constant call for nerfing really really sad. Can you not see there is more than one way to apply balance?
Instead of his "ship is shinyer than mine, make it duller" why not ask for a new pain job on your own ship?
In other words, why mess up other peoples gamplay just because you can't cope/adapt to it?
As it happens though you plea for the nerf bat is totally pointless as the Devs will make changes to Missiles when they have the time to. But in case you havent noticed, Exodus is very very broken and needs to be fixed before they break anything else.
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Jemson Brightson
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Posted - 2004.12.17 04:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jemson Brightson on 17/12/2004 04:51:35
I find the constant call for nerfing really really sad. Can you not see there is more than one way to apply balance?
Instead of his "ship is shinyer than mine, make it duller" why not ask for a new pain job on your own ship?
In other words, why mess up other peoples gamplay just because you can't cope/adapt to it?
As it happens though you plea for the nerf bat is totally pointless as the Devs will make changes to Missiles when they have the time to. But in case you havent noticed, Exodus is very very broken and needs to be fixed before they break anything else.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.17 04:55:00 -
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Because people don't want to stop and think of a more tactical approuch to combat. They rather have it handed to them on a silver platter. Sure a raven is big and sick. Pretty easy to counter missiles, target locks, speed and ect on any ship. Yet you rather ***** when you suck in combat.
-Famine Aligher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.17 04:55:00 -
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Because people don't want to stop and think of a more tactical approuch to combat. They rather have it handed to them on a silver platter. Sure a raven is big and sick. Pretty easy to counter missiles, target locks, speed and ect on any ship. Yet you rather ***** when you suck in combat.
-Famine Aligher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.12.17 05:06:00 -
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"If missles are so wtfuber, how come I see 2 gankageddons/apocs for every raven?"
Because you need at least 2 gankageddons/apocs to take one raven down :o
::rimshot::
(i'll get my coat...)
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.12.17 05:06:00 -
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"If missles are so wtfuber, how come I see 2 gankageddons/apocs for every raven?"
Because you need at least 2 gankageddons/apocs to take one raven down :o
::rimshot::
(i'll get my coat...)
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MinorFreak
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Posted - 2004.12.17 05:51:00 -
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it's been ONE day. lol, "super weapon that beats all" 
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MinorFreak
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Posted - 2004.12.17 05:51:00 -
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it's been ONE day. lol, "super weapon that beats all"
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Ragga Muffin
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Posted - 2004.12.17 06:36:00 -
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I think it went a little something like this....
Lasers are too powerful nerf 'em! (lasers get nerfed)
Projectiles are now too powerful compared to lasers nerf 'em! (projectiles nerfed)
Rails are now too powerful compared to the lasers and projectiles we just finished whining about! Nerf 'em! (rails nerfed)
Missiles are now too powerful compared to all the other stuff we complained about and got nerfed for us cause we suck! Nerf 'em! (Missiles wait to get nerfed)
Here is my question.....
Has anybody even TRIED to think of balancing UP instead of crying for mommy to beat down the big bad (insert whatever is stomping you today here)?
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Ragga Muffin
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Posted - 2004.12.17 06:36:00 -
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I think it went a little something like this....
Lasers are too powerful nerf 'em! (lasers get nerfed)
Projectiles are now too powerful compared to lasers nerf 'em! (projectiles nerfed)
Rails are now too powerful compared to the lasers and projectiles we just finished whining about! Nerf 'em! (rails nerfed)
Missiles are now too powerful compared to all the other stuff we complained about and got nerfed for us cause we suck! Nerf 'em! (Missiles wait to get nerfed)
Here is my question.....
Has anybody even TRIED to think of balancing UP instead of crying for mommy to beat down the big bad (insert whatever is stomping you today here)?
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MinorFreak
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Posted - 2004.12.17 06:43:00 -
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yeah, but that would entail the whiners actually THINKING about solutions. Poor things lack imagination, pity them. *sniff*
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MinorFreak
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Posted - 2004.12.17 06:43:00 -
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yeah, but that would entail the whiners actually THINKING about solutions. Poor things lack imagination, pity them. *sniff*
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alynne
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Posted - 2004.12.17 07:08:00 -
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this whiner has a solution
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alynne
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Posted - 2004.12.17 07:08:00 -
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this whiner has a solution
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JoCool
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Posted - 2004.12.17 07:22:00 -
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The devs do know about a slight imbalance of large missiles against smaller sized targets.
But, they fortunately realized that you must not entirely listen to the community when you attempt to balance things, because in every balance forums this "community" is usually a tiny minority of whiners, and only a tiny minority of those know what they're talking about.
Nonetheless I would like to express again that missiles do need adjustments. The damage should be distributed by class id.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2004.12.17 07:22:00 -
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The devs do know about a slight imbalance of large missiles against smaller sized targets.
But, they fortunately realized that you must not entirely listen to the community when you attempt to balance things, because in every balance forums this "community" is usually a tiny minority of whiners, and only a tiny minority of those know what they're talking about.
Nonetheless I would like to express again that missiles do need adjustments. The damage should be distributed by class id.
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medriana
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Posted - 2004.12.17 07:28:00 -
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slight imbalance?!
minority?!!
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medriana
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Posted - 2004.12.17 07:28:00 -
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slight imbalance?!
minority?!!
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Andarvi
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Posted - 2004.12.17 08:05:00 -
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*cough*
I wouldn't call the ability to insta-kill frigates and cruisers a 'slight imbalance'. And I wouldn't say only a 'tiny minority' wants this change either.
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Andarvi
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Posted - 2004.12.17 08:05:00 -
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*cough*
I wouldn't call the ability to insta-kill frigates and cruisers a 'slight imbalance'. And I wouldn't say only a 'tiny minority' wants this change either.
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brentgod
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Posted - 2004.12.17 08:15:00 -
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I do admit missiles are very good being able to do the same amount of damage at any range and great accuracy and all that. But given the right range ect turrets can do ubber damage that missiles cant compete with.
If u fly carfully and stay at the right ranges ect u can blow the f*** out of a raven
summary.
missiles are a more noobish weapon that does same damage at any range and requirs no skill to use
Turrets you have alot more work to do in getting your range and tacking right but when done properly u can do nice damage.
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brentgod
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Posted - 2004.12.17 08:15:00 -
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I do admit missiles are very good being able to do the same amount of damage at any range and great accuracy and all that. But given the right range ect turrets can do ubber damage that missiles cant compete with.
If u fly carfully and stay at the right ranges ect u can blow the f*** out of a raven
summary.
missiles are a more noobish weapon that does same damage at any range and requirs no skill to use
Turrets you have alot more work to do in getting your range and tacking right but when done properly u can do nice damage.
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Niaski Zalani
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Posted - 2004.12.17 08:25:00 -
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 Originally by: j0sephine
"If missles are so wtfuber, how come I see 2 gankageddons/apocs for every raven?"
Because you need at least 2 gankageddons/apocs to take one raven down :o
::rimshot::
(i'll get my coat...)
lol, dont leave..i liked it :)
yarr? |
Niaski Zalani
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Posted - 2004.12.17 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
"If missles are so wtfuber, how come I see 2 gankageddons/apocs for every raven?"
Because you need at least 2 gankageddons/apocs to take one raven down :o
::rimshot::
(i'll get my coat...)
lol, dont leave..i liked it :)
yarr? |
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