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MickeyKnox
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Posted - 2010.07.08 08:23:00 -
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Edited by: MickeyKnox on 08/07/2010 08:23:43
..what do you think will be the cause?
Bad customer support?
No bug fixes? (a.k.a. CCP employing close friends instead of real, professional coders)
Spontanous self-inflammation?
The GUI?
Other sandbox games that aren't only empty promises of freedom?
The poll is open!
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Yuki Kulotsuki
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Posted - 2010.07.08 08:24:00 -
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Volcanoes.
 Originally by: CCP Lemur
THIS IS GOD: ...
IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
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RaTTuS
BIG
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.08 08:25:00 -
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Edited by: RaTTuS on 08/07/2010 08:25:14
this blows it's top
edit
Damn you Yuki Kulotsuki
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.07.08 08:28:00 -
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Skynet.
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All I want is a better mankind.
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.07.08 08:33:00 -
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IMO the biggest threat to Eve is CCP devoting all the developer resources to an upcoming title and leaving Eve in a lurch. I don't know how likely this is, but the CSM blog postings make it sound like it already happened.
Not that I think Eve is dying. Otherwise I'd just cancel my account and stop running this mission.
-Liang
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Kendar
Gallente
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.08 08:43:00 -
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December 21 2012
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Atedar Kerane
Silentium Mortalitas
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Posted - 2010.07.08 08:52:00 -
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CCP Tuxford
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sasabor
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Posted - 2010.07.08 08:57:00 -
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Zombie apocalypse
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Raaki
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.08 08:59:00 -
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MickeyKnox
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Hari Markkus
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Posted - 2010.07.08 09:02:00 -
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Entropy, that is what usually gets large software systems in the end.
Every change becomes harder and harder and often leaves the system more unstable than before. Eventually it becomes easier to start again than work with what is there.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.08 09:12:00 -
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Dying as in CCP shuts down the servers, will most likely be after they stopped adding/fixing anything, and the cost of running it is getting closer to the profit they make by just letting it run.
Besides that I don't really see any reason for it to be shut down. After all it's a business, and anyone would in most cases simply let stuff run as long as it generates money and kill it off when there is no profit.
I of course hope to see CCP add content and fixing bugs for many years to come, the worst ending in my book would actually be the above scenario. So I rather would want it to die from a volcano if so yes.
/c
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Jennifer Fenring
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.08 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
IMO the biggest threat to Eve is CCP devoting all the developer resources to an upcoming title and leaving Eve in a lurch.
This. There's so many things that need solving, it would make the community so much happier than introducing some mini-game which doesn't really affect your day-to-day EVE experience.
Also a great threat would be another space game that wouldn't have the current problems EVE suffers.
What I also think should be emphasized a little more is new player tutorials. If EVE grows they can attract far more devs to improve the game. They may have like 75k subscribers with 300k accounts but that's still not a lot of income for a game company.
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.07.08 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: Hari Markkus
Entropy, that is what usually gets large software systems in the end.
Every change becomes harder and harder and often leaves the system more unstable than before. Eventually it becomes easier to start again than work with what is there.
It seems like this problem can be solved with a two pronged change of business requirements and some refactoring/simplification. And yes, I've worked on complex systems. Its my specialty. :)
-Liang
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Paosting Alt
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Posted - 2010.07.08 09:31:00 -
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Paosting during the node crash.
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Ganagati
Caldari
Dark Ashes
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Posted - 2010.07.08 09:33:00 -
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Age, the genre itself and newb popping all together (not any one separately)
Age: The game is getting old. Despite that, it is stronger in playerbase now than ever before. I don't really see that being a problem for many years to come. But honestly, I don't see EVE dying anytime in the near future due to age.
Genre: However, space isn't exactly an inviting place for most people. Sadly, we Sci Fi nerds are a far fewer community than say Fantasy (thank you Lord of the Rings...). Not to say we have anything wrong with us, are dying, etc... we simply don't bring in the droves of people. Folks get more attached to a fantasy game character than they do a spaceship they could lose. Now, combine this with age- it means as time goes the older players might get tired of playing, the number of newer players may start to slow... again, years down the road. The game is doing too well right now, and will probably start doing even better after Dust 514
and finally
Newb Popping- This won't be an issue right now as we get enough newbs that running some out won't really matter, but as the number of new players starts to decrease, each can flipping/suiciding even a single newb will really affect the game. Hardcore or not, when you first start out and don't know anything, getting popped is neither fun nor educational... well, sort of educational- it teaches you that you should probably find a new game. Still, this won't be anything to worry about until several years from now when EVE goes stale. In the meantime, there will probably be more players joining over time. ESPECIALLY with WoW losing a good portion of their playerbase due to a poor decision the other day.
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ShahFluffers
Gallente
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.07.08 09:43:00 -
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My ISK on when EvE "officially" begins to die is the day that DUST569 or whateveryitiscalled comes out.
The way I see it... FPS players have VERY little patience and/or tolerance for game imbalances the way EvE players do (I dare people here to go to an FPS forum and strike up a casual conversation regarding "game balance").
The day DUST comes out, it will be chock full of bugs and imbalances that will have to be immediately addressed lest they **** of the HORDE of loud, rabid, nail-biting, irrational customers.
With all the Devs focusing on an endless stream of bugs and glitches that will never cease to end (because it NEVER ends), EvE will be left to sit out the remainder of its existence as nothing more than a precursor to its bastard child.
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2010.07.08 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: Sturmwolke on 08/07/2010 09:56:16
When the business model changes to something that puts more emphasis on revenue than players' emotional attachment to the game.
The problem with company size is that it's always hungry for more spending ... with more spending, you need more revenue. It's a fairly destructive cycle that'll reach endgame when a cog in the machinery falters.
When or if CCP reaches that point, the cascade of failures resulting from it will make it very difficult or almost impossible to recover from. See how in game alliances fail cascade? Human nature can almost always be predicted if you're well versed with it 
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Cyrus Mierre
The Forsaken Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.08 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kendar
December 21 2012
I don't *believe* they cancelled flashforward =(
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Benilopax
Gallente
Infinity Enterprises
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.08 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: ShahFluffers
My ISK on when EvE "officially" begins to die is the day that DUST569 or whateveryitiscalled comes out.
The way I see it... FPS players have VERY little patience and/or tolerance for game imbalances the way EvE players do (I dare people here to go to an FPS forum and strike up a casual conversation regarding "game balance").
The day DUST comes out, it will be chock full of bugs and imbalances that will have to be immediately addressed lest they **** of the HORDE of loud, rabid, nail-biting, irrational customers.
With all the Devs focusing on an endless stream of bugs and glitches that will never cease to end (because it NEVER ends), EvE will be left to sit out the remainder of its existence as nothing more than a precursor to its bastard child.
Were some of you people starved of oxygen at birth? There are two entire branches of CCP that deal with DUST who have absolutely no connection to EVE and neither do EVE programmers have anything to do with dust. The console game cannot and will not drain resources for EVE which is why they opened CCP Newcastle!
I despair at you people sometimes. 
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Andreya
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.08 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Dying as in CCP shuts down the servers, will most likely be after they stopped adding/fixing anything, and the cost of running it is getting closer to the profit they make by just letting it run.
/c
we could always hope they would hand it over to the fanbase at that point, for example FreeAllegiance (old school space combat sim, multiplayer. and was given to the community after teh company was done with it)
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Ma'kal
The Imperial Commonwealth
Damage Control II
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Posted - 2010.07.08 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
Skynet.
I think we all should be more worried about the server renaming itself to Skynet. Maybe this is where the server lag is comming from, the server is starting to be self aware. 
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Miilla
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Posted - 2010.07.08 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 08/07/2010 10:34:13
Originally by: MickeyKnox
Edited by: MickeyKnox on 08/07/2010 08:23:43
..what do you think will be the cause?
Bad customer support?
No bug fixes? (a.k.a. CCP employing close friends instead of real, professional coders)
Spontanous self-inflammation?
The GUI?
Other sandbox games that aren't only empty promises of freedom?
The poll is open!
Lack of a story line
Lack of depth
Lack of a decent interaction HUD
Skilling taking too long for decent stuff 30 days 60 days... That is 1 to 2 months worth of subscriptions and therefore too expensive to invest in really
Unable to change payment details until 30 days before its up, s hitty payment handling
Too many carebear's nerfing it.
Too many cry babies that can't handle the "harsh universe" by design and thus they rant and cry in local none stop and even abuse the petition system to attempt to get bans because thats fun
Bah hammers, 1 week for simple things and a lot of the time you don't even know the reason, put people off and make them during those ban times look at competitor products which now there is more available to choose from. If they stop you playing for 1 week for a simple thing when one day is more than enough, then you take your money elsewhere, simple rule. Why waste money on that? It's suppost to be a sandbox, but it really isn't.
CCP's primary focux is White Wolf Studios warewolf MMO simulator and Dust Console FPS's not Eve.
CSM is a joke and wasting money.
With SWTOR comming in the future along with Jumpgate Evolution and other products/services there is plenty to choose from.
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Aldarica
Spinal Discipline
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Posted - 2010.07.08 10:33:00 -
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Edited by: Aldarica on 08/07/2010 10:33:33
CCP losing focus and interest to continually fix/improve/enhance this particular game (probably because of new potentially more profitable projects on horizon), combined with other competitive sandbox-type MMOs (there must be ONE some time) might cause decline and ultimately the death of EVE as we know it. Question is not "if", but "when" is it going to happen - nothing lasts forever.
However, I'm giving EVE another 5 good years... unless CCP makes some terrible mistake before 
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Tolis Irithel
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.07.08 10:35:00 -
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Their most immediate threat IMO is their continued refusal to properly engage with the playerbase regarding key issues (lag, game balance, etc.), and somewhat lacklustre approach to support.
*IF* they get past their current really bad phase on stuff like that, then the only real long-term threat I see would be a rival game, or an as-yet-unforseen game mechanics issue when 90% of the playerbase can fly capitals.
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Hroya
Gallente
TerraNovae
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Posted - 2010.07.08 10:40:00 -
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I doubt it will end but then again what some think eve is has ended many times allready.
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Steve Celeste
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.07.08 11:24:00 -
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NDA Violations.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.07.08 11:26:00 -
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EA buying up CCP.
***Poof!***
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Deva Blackfire
LOST IDEA
C0VEN
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Posted - 2010.07.08 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
IMO the biggest threat to Eve is CCP devoting all the developer resources to an upcoming title and leaving Eve in a lurch. I don't know how likely this is, but the CSM blog postings make it sound like it already happened.
Had the same feeling. Reading that part of CSM blog was rly kinda worrisome when it comes to EVE future. Dust+Incarna = 1,5 year before devs are back to normal expansions (ie: with proper content)? If ever?
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Pax Ratlin
Gallente
Metalworks
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.08 12:11:00 -
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Elves as a playable race
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.07.08 12:14:00 -
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With time it will be cheaper and cheaper to operate EVE as assuming they eventually stop expansions.
So even when it becomes relatively unpopular it will linger on for years.
Or the volcano thing.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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