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Digital Solaris
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:15:00 -
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I like the agonizing screams  |
OmniBeton
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:16:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: Ick Ickagami
Originally by: OmniBeton
Tears of my victims. And yes, real live flustration.
A wonderful and refreshingly honest, insightful answer. Thank you.
So, making others feel bad eases your own pain?
Intriguing.
I assume it is the 'misery loves company' effect?
You assumption is wrong I'm affraid.
It is not really about making others feel bad or searching for soulmate.
They feel bad because they lose. They lose because I'm better. Stronger, smarter.
I took something from them, they couldn't prevent me from doing that. Every such win in game compensates for some defeat in RL. That how it works I think.
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Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
Motivated and Determined
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:17:00 -
[33]
hi,
im hooked up to a Pavlovs dog style electrical device that constantly puts an uncomfortable current through my body.
Killing anything stops the buzzer for 5 minutes and any following kills then double up on that.
Its the only way to stop the pain tbh.
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sig says "We Are Recruiting!" |
Rothrin
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:18:00 -
[34]
Seems about the same as why people play sport in rl, a win is a win and it gets those chemical thingys in the brain flowing.
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Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:18:00 -
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Ok, I don't post much, but I'll bite.
We kill you because when we do, we win. Pretty simple really - If I kill you, I walk away better off than you as a direct result of my own actions. Direct conflict is thrilling, win or lose.
I am prone to attack anything I think I can kill, but I often bite off more than I can chew.
Motivation, again, is in being victorious. Not in some glamorous, heroic way, but just in a primal, immediate sense. As soon as your ship explodes, I have beaten you. What you call "uninvited destruction" I see more as "masterful execution of opportunity to excel"
Most of my pirate buddies are very nice fellows, upper-middle class, gentlemen... To be quite honest, there is a much higher incidence of real-life pricks in 0.0 alliances from my experience. Power hungry people are the aggressive, frustrated type you're looking for. Pirates are generally light-hearted, good humored and friendly, although quite competitive.
I assume from your post that you assume that when a pirate attacks you it's personal; this could not be more wrong. In most cases it's purely competative in nature. When this is not the case, almost invariably it is purely business - you kill rats, I kill you (you generally make more money at it).
I should definitely mention that there IS a sort of gambling aspect to piracy. You never know when you're gonna pop the ship with billions in faction/officer mods. While I could plink away at rats for 500k each and never lose a ship, I'd rather lose hundreds of millions of isk in ships for no profit, and then get that one kill that makes it all worth while.
Before you start with, "if you want competition, go to 0.0 blah blah whine...", let me state that the ONLY way to get a good fight consistently is in lowsec. Any hostile trip into 0.0 will invariably upset some hornet's nest of players resulting in your ship being lost to a fleet with no fight to speak of taking place. I, and many pirates like me, have zero interest in being an insignificant spec in a blob of overpriced, poorly fit ships, mindlessly following the orders of one of those frustrated, aggressive jerks you mentioned earlier. So we strike out on our own, or in small groups.
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Clytamnestra
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:22:00 -
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I should have known better than to assume the thread was made in earnest and that people would take it serious.
Now I kind of feel bad for replying honestly.
Yes I've had hate-mail sent to me where people wished me dead. But that happened when I played street fighter as well. Of course you get ****ed if I pop your ship, but don't go thinking that makes me a repressed psychopath in real life for it.
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Xavier Zedicus
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:27:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Ick Ickagami
Originally by: Xavier Zedicus
Why do people on earth fight over resources and kill oneanother? For power, money, fame/infamy, religious dogma, fun.
You avoid the question with generalities.
"What motivates you? What is your drive to do uninvited destruction?"
Perhaps you fear the answer?
Fascinating.
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Kerfira
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:28:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Ick Ickagami
What motivates you? What is your drive to do uninvited destruction?
It is quite simple: Love of this game!
If ships weren't blown up, the EVE economy would die. When the economy died, the game would die. People blowing up other people's ships prevent that from happening!
It's the people who're so desperately trying NOT to lose anything that are the scourge of the game, not the people blowing stuff up!
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Criss AngeI
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:33:00 -
[39]
Originally by: TheBaptist
Personally I do it for the tears.
Wow you ****ing suck at spotting tears.
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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:33:00 -
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When I was young I was bullied at school. It happened almost every day and the primary antagonist was this Veldspar Asteroid who lived down the street from me.
Now I have grown up.... and I have a mining barge... NOW ITS ME WHO HAS THE POWER MUUUHAHHA HA HAAAAR!
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Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer
"I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!"
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Demolishar
Internet Spaceship Raiders
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Clytamnestra
So I started to talking to the pirates who got me in my shiny new Catalyst, trying my first steps out into low-sec. They seemed like real nice people, so I joined up with them and I never looked back. Pirates in eve are some of the kindest, warmest people I have ever know over the internets.
That's interesting. My story's the same as yours up until "I never looked back", which is replaced with, from then on "then they ganked me, kicked me, tried to smartbomb my pod, and spammed insults in local for half an hour." The first pirates I met were total *******s.
What motivates you is getting a kick from fighting. What motivates ME is getting a kick from ruining someone's day in the nastiest way possible. Great how that first encounter shapes your entire way of thinking!
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:41:00 -
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For most players its an attempt to establish dominion control and power with in one small aspect of their life.
But their are exceptions.
Pure PVPers who basically just like fighting. The guys who spend a lot of time going on roams looking for other players doing basically the same thing.
Popping high value transport ships just for the cargo.
Popping POS to steal the labs.
And essentially all 0.0 fighting is a consensual contest.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:56:00 -
[43]
You mean, what motivates me to shoot stuff in a PvP game?
Well, the obvious answer is - the game itself motivates me, otherwise I wouldn't play it. |
Kai Saito
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:59:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Ick Ickagami
You sound angry. Is this your personal reason for destroying others assets? Some inner rage you carry?
Does blowing up others things in some way assuage your rage?
Most fascinating indeed.
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Steve Celeste
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.07.09 13:04:00 -
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I do not hope for a better world for anyone, in fact I want my pain to be inflicted on others.
I want no one to escape.
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.07.09 13:23:00 -
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I guess that to me, blowing up other ships in EVE is too impersonal. I click an icon on the overview, press a few buttons, and watch the icon disappear after a while. I never get to see my opponent, I never get to watch him run in panic as I lay my crushing blows in his face. Maybe I should start flying blaster ships.
I do it for my corporation and my alliance. You enter our space, you have no business being here - bam, you're dead. The miners are safe. The ships and modules get made. We need more space, we go out and kill the other guys. An ally calls for our help, we come and assist him. I do not see any particular pleasure in killing a single ship, but I appreciate the benefits it gains us in the long run.
However, there is something really satisfying about seeing large structures blow up. Those half a bilion ISK days and weeks of constant PI clicking going up in flames!  I love POS and sovereignty warfare.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2010.07.09 13:34:00 -
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Lets all create carebearland out of EVE.
Make that whenever ships gets blown up , it respawn at staion fully fitted.
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Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.09 13:39:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Ick Ickagami
Serious question, looking into the mind and psyche of the 'pirate'.
Are you more prone to attack a specific type of ship/player/asset?
What motivates you? What is your drive to do uninvited destruction?
Do these tendencies carry over to/from real life, or is this game more of a release valve for real life frustrations?
I find the entire concept................fascinating.
There are various secondary benefits (loot, resource denial, etc) but at heart, it's because blowing stuff up is fun!
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Batolemaeus
Caldari
Vauryndar Dalharil
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Posted - 2010.07.09 13:40:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Batolemaeus on 09/07/2010 13:40:45
Because i want to crush my enemies, to see them driven before me and hear the lamentations of their miners. 
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ObviousTroll Alt
Gallente
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2010.07.09 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: ObviousTroll Alt on 09/07/2010 14:02:28
I will attack anything/anyone/
The explosions, loot but most enjoyably, the emo rage coming from the care bear who simply doesn't understand that it is his responsibility to protect what he has, or someone like me will come along and destroy/take it. That is the core principle of EVE. Nothing after that really matters. I.E. It's an MMO RPG.
I have en eminently satisfying real life. If you are unable to separate R/L from an MMO, then I suggest that you have a talk with your doctor, as your touch with reality is a bit on the precarious side.
I find you somewhat sad. But then people who suffer from the inability to separate a game from life, have always held a fascination for me. It often makes me wonder what terrible events happened in their lives to make their grasp and discernment of reality so precarious.
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AccesiViale
Gallente
The Artful Dodgers
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Posted - 2010.07.09 14:06:00 -
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why do lions kill other lions
why do ant colonies wage war on each other.
why does every human culture have a history of war at some point
Destruction is a part of life...especially for the human race. Working together, curing diseases, being "friends..." These are all just parts of preparing and fortifying in anticipation of future conflict.
As John Oliver pointed out in this little example. "Country B has 12 apples and cannot adequately defend itself. Country A wants those Apples. How many apples does Country B now have?"
Destruction in eve by pirates or any other entity creates purpose and industry for others. Frankly I think more stuff should be getting destroyed.
I am a high sec carebear as far as most of new eden would be concerned and I've nothing but love for those who burn things. Besides how bad can you possibly feel as the one was killed or did the killing because in the end...somebody is just going to blink and wake up alive again in a clone facility which is a luxury only afforded in this little fantasy.
Just learn to play defense as well or better than others are playing offense and you wont be so sad :(
The sky was blue but there was no god. |
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
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Posted - 2010.07.09 14:24:00 -
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OP is a Freud wannabe. Go research the correlation between fast cars and sex instead.
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Novantco
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.07.09 14:27:00 -
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Confirming that I get drunk irl then attack people and take their wallets.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.07.09 14:37:00 -
[54]
Originally by: AccesiViale
why do lions kill other lions
why do ant colonies wage war on each other.
why does every human culture have a history of war at some point
Destruction is a part of life...especially for the human race. Working together, curing diseases, being "friends..." These are all just parts of preparing and fortifying in anticipation of future conflict.
As John Oliver pointed out in this little example. "Country B has 12 apples and cannot adequately defend itself. Country A wants those Apples. How many apples does Country B now have?"
Destruction in eve by pirates or any other entity creates purpose and industry for others. Frankly I think more stuff should be getting destroyed.
I am a high sec carebear as far as most of new eden would be concerned and I've nothing but love for those who burn things. Besides how bad can you possibly feel as the one was killed or did the killing because in the end...somebody is just going to blink and wake up alive again in a clone facility which is a luxury only afforded in this little fantasy.
Just learn to play defense as well or better than others are playing offense and you wont be so sad :(
That doesnt really pertain to the OPs questopn.
Its a nice explanation of 0.0 war and fighting though.
It dosnt explain anything about most high and low sec ganking.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Haramir Haleths
Caldari
Nutella Bande
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Posted - 2010.07.09 14:37:00 -
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Because people like OP make whine threads in Forum and try to be serious.
And of course ... because of falcon.
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.07.09 14:38:00 -
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Hi Commissar FunzzeR here,
The Scottish Fold opened my eyes to the bourgeois propaganda and imperialist agendas that are pervade all areas of 0.0, low sec, and empire.
When I learned the truth of how hundreds of miners were being oppressed at exploitative wages and dangerous working conditions I resolved to liberate as many miners as I could from the yoke of industry and the tyranny of Veldspar.
Today I have cadre of noble, glorious revolutionaries dedicated liberating oppressed miners everywhere and bringing justice to the bourgeois menace that looms like a dark shadow.
VIVA LA SCOTTISH FOLD!!
THE GUNS OF THE REVOLUTION WILL NEVER FALL SILENT!!
PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!! |
Jitter Joe
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Posted - 2010.07.09 15:17:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
Originally by: Ick Ickagami
Serious question
Originally, I had the idea that I could make people go hungry in developing countries by attacking their income source by stopping them farming in game gold. My goal was to receive confirmation hate mail that somebody somewhere had gone without food because of my deliberate activity.
I never did achieve that goal, though I did get a broken English message that somebody had, something to do with their sister's rent, I never did get a good bead on what they meant, I like to think that somebody's sister had to turn tricks because I'd popped somebody's fleet of 100 million ISK 5x Local Expanders Iteron V.
After a few nasty effects, namely invention, mining automation instead of farming sweatshops and with the 0.0 macro ratter being far more useful than the hisec macro miner, these goals have evaporated unsatisfied.
As to whether my actions are related to my actual real life frustrations... frustrations? No I think not. But I think my case officers would be interested in the blatant mysogyny, wilfull destructionand vicarious sexual pleasure I get from watching people cry in pain, particularly the women. Fortunately there is no framework in place for monitoring my legal online activities, nor any specific means of having it translated into a definitive interpretation against my release conditions.
Even going to Jita and back doesn't break my parole conditions.
I suppose if they introduce RealID it could really land me in some bother, but that's what I love the most about the law, it's punitive, not preventative.
 Brilliant, just brilliant. Two thumbs up.
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AccesiViale
Gallente
The Artful Dodgers
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Posted - 2010.07.09 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: AccesiViale
why do lions kill other lions
why do ant colonies wage war on each other.
why does every human culture have a history of war at some point
Destruction is a part of life...especially for the human race. Working together, curing diseases, being "friends..." These are all just parts of preparing and fortifying in anticipation of future conflict.
As John Oliver pointed out in this little example. "Country B has 12 apples and cannot adequately defend itself. Country A wants those Apples. How many apples does Country B now have?"
Destruction in eve by pirates or any other entity creates purpose and industry for others. Frankly I think more stuff should be getting destroyed.
I am a high sec carebear as far as most of new eden would be concerned and I've nothing but love for those who burn things. Besides how bad can you possibly feel as the one was killed or did the killing because in the end...somebody is just going to blink and wake up alive again in a clone facility which is a luxury only afforded in this little fantasy.
Just learn to play defense as well or better than others are playing offense and you wont be so sad :(
That doesnt really pertain to the OPs questopn.
Its a nice explanation of 0.0 war and fighting though.
It dosnt explain anything about most high and low sec ganking.
A soldier I respect once told me, rightly imho, that "as a soldier you own any piece of ground you stand on with a rifle and everything that comes within that domain until you are killed or leave of your own accord." I was little at the time so that is probably not verbatim :)
But it sure works. Pirates OWN the grid they are on and everything that touches it until you remove them from said grid or they leave on their own. Passing through their grid is the same as delivering goods directly to them.
If you do not intend on giving them what they believe is owed them you better move without rhythm so you don't attract the worm...
The sky was blue but there was no god. |
Doddy
The Executives
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.09 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ick Ickagami
Serious question, looking into the mind and psyche of the 'pirate'.
Are you more prone to attack a specific type of ship/player/asset?
What motivates you? What is your drive to do uninvited destruction?
Do these tendencies carry over to/from real life, or is this game more of a release valve for real life frustrations?
I find the entire concept................fascinating.
I think its the point of the game, isn't it?
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Whiny McEmokid
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Posted - 2010.07.09 15:20:00 -
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op is a hulkageddon victim, calling it now.
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