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Ick Ickagami
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.07.09 11:49:00 -
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Serious question, looking into the mind and psyche of the 'pirate'.
Are you more prone to attack a specific type of ship/player/asset?
What motivates you? What is your drive to do uninvited destruction?
Do these tendencies carry over to/from real life, or is this game more of a release valve for real life frustrations?
I find the entire concept................fascinating.
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Miilla
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Posted - 2010.07.09 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 09/07/2010 11:50:42
 Originally by: Ick Ickagami
Serious question, looking into the mind and psyche of the 'pirate'.
Are you more prone to attack a specific type of ship/player/asset?
What motivates you? What is your drive to do uninvited destruction?
Do these tendencies carry over to/from real life, or is this game more of a release valve for real life frustrations?
I find the entire concept................fascinating.
Because that is one aspect of eve BY DESIGN.
We are simply role playing in eve as it is intended.
If you are against this game design, why do you play it? Or worse, PAY to play it?
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.09 11:53:00 -
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Why do you shoot at people in Grand Theft Auto??
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Brannor McThife
Caldari
Brotherhood of the Ancients
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Posted - 2010.07.09 11:54:00 -
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Phat lewt!
Sorry... that's totally out of character... but seriously... all ships should be treated as NPCs with varying levels of AI. He who philosophises about whether to shoot or not ends up dead.
Read my ingame BIO... This is EvE (hehe... Spartaaa!)
-G
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Ick Ickagami
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.07.09 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Because that is one aspect of eve BY DESIGN.
If you are against this game design, why do you play it? Or worse, PAY to play it?
I'm sorry, please point out where in my query I show any indication to being, in your words, 'against this game design'?
You sound angry. Is this your personal reason for destroying others assets? Some inner rage you carry?
Does blowing up others things in some way assuage your rage?
Most fascinating indeed.
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Xavier Zedicus
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.07.09 11:55:00 -
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Why do people on earth fight over resources and kill oneanother? For power, money, fame/infamy, religious dogma, fun.
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Wacktopia
Dark Side Of The Womb
Focused Intentions
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Posted - 2010.07.09 11:56:00 -
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MMMLEEEEERRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYY MMMMMJJJJEEEEEEENNNN***KIIIINNNNSSSSSS 
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Jack Dant
Minmatar
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2010.07.09 11:56:00 -
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You might as well ask why people capture pieces in chess, invade countries in Risk, or kill people on first person shooters.
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Hanneshannes
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Posted - 2010.07.09 11:57:00 -
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Blowing up people in video games is fun, wether I fire a CG into someone's face in BC2 or a nuke into someone's base in CnC or destroy someone's ship.
We are playing this game to have fun. Fun for some people is building stuff, for other it is destroying said stuff. You should see it as a part of the game to not get your stuff blown up if you don't want to.
If you like building without stuff getting destroyed, I'd suggest a different game.
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Spinejuicer
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Posted - 2010.07.09 11:57:00 -
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I do it because my style of playing checkers had been carrying over into my real life too often.
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Miilla
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Posted - 2010.07.09 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ick Ickagami
Originally by: Miilla
Because that is one aspect of eve BY DESIGN.
If you are against this game design, why do you play it? Or worse, PAY to play it?
I'm sorry, please point out where in my query I show any indication to being, in your words, 'against this game design'?
You sound angry. Is this your personal reason for destroying others assets? Some inner rage you carry?
Does blowing up others things in some way assuage your rage?
Most fascinating indeed.
Ahh the faux intellectual comeback routine :)
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OmniBeton
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Posted - 2010.07.09 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: OmniBeton on 09/07/2010 11:59:04
Originally by: Ick Ickagami
Serious question, looking into the mind and psyche of the 'pirate'.
Are you more prone to attack a specific type of ship/player/asset?
What motivates you? What is your drive to do uninvited destruction?
Do these tendencies carry over to/from real life, or is this game more of a release valve for real life frustrations?
Tears of my victims. And yes, real live flustration.
You realize that general purpose of most games is that they allow you to be bastard without real-life, long term consequences ?
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Larg Kellein
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:00:00 -
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I'm no pirate, as 99% of my fights are and have benn in 0.0 but for me it's the same as asking why you shoot at the Combine soldier in Half Life: It's part of the game.
The fact that another player was piloting that wreck a moment ago does add to the fun, of course. But for me, it's more about the fact that a human opponent offers more challenge than a dumb npc. Even if he sucks and just sits there dying, he had the potential to present a challenge going in to the fight.
And of course, never underestimate the fun in seeing people complain after a loss, though that's more likely in empire and lowsec as most people in 0.0, even when they're carebearing, know that you consent to pvp by undocking.
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Ick Ickagami
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Xavier Zedicus
Why do people on earth fight over resources and kill oneanother? For power, money, fame/infamy, religious dogma, fun.
You avoid the question with generalities.
"What motivates you? What is your drive to do uninvited destruction?"
Perhaps you fear the answer?
Fascinating.
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Eelis Kiy
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:02:00 -
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PMS
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TheBaptist
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:02:00 -
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Personally I do it for the tears.
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:02:00 -
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Paranoia, if I see you in local you are only there to kill me therefore I will kill you first and no "I was in a bestower ****!" doesnt qualify as an exception
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Othran
Destry's Lounge
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ick Ickagami
What motivates you? What is your drive to do uninvited destruction?
PVE in Eve is appallingly bad.
So why do it except to fund explosions?
Simples.
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Pachira Lotus
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ick Ickagami
Serious question, looking into the mind and psyche of the 'pirate'.
Oh dear, some one wants to get in meh head 
Originally by: Ick Ickagami
Are you more prone to attack a specific type of ship/player/asset?
Nope its all good 
Originally by: Ick Ickagami
What motivates you? What is your drive to do uninvited destruction?
Pretty Explosions
Originally by: Ick Ickagami
Do these tendencies carry over to/from real life, or is this game more of a release valve for real life frustrations?
I like to blow up cars, play with petrol bombs & stick bangers up frogs bum holes for fun 
Originally by: Ick Ickagami
I find the entire concept................fascinating.
Ye pretty stupid if ya can not tell the difference between reality and fantasy, maybe ya should like in dictonary to see what the concept of role play is if ya really feel the need to do a pycho analysis.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:04:00 -
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Loot/ransom, interaction (this is an MMO afterall), being a ****.
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ick Ickagami
Serious question
Originally, I had the idea that I could make people go hungry in developing countries by attacking their income source by stopping them farming in game gold. My goal was to receive confirmation hate mail that somebody somewhere had gone without food because of my deliberate activity.
I never did achieve that goal, though I did get a broken English message that somebody had, something to do with their sister's rent, I never did get a good bead on what they meant, I like to think that somebody's sister had to turn tricks because I'd popped somebody's fleet of 100 million ISK 5x Local Expanders Iteron V.
After a few nasty effects, namely invention, mining automation instead of farming sweatshops and with the 0.0 macro ratter being far more useful than the hisec macro miner, these goals have evaporated unsatisfied.
As to whether my actions are related to my actual real life frustrations... frustrations? No I think not. But I think my case officers would be interested in the blatant mysogyny, wilfull destructionand vicarious sexual pleasure I get from watching people cry in pain, particularly the women. Fortunately there is no framework in place for monitoring my legal online activities, nor any specific means of having it translated into a definitive interpretation against my release conditions.
Even going to Jita and back doesn't break my parole conditions.
I suppose if they introduce RealID it could really land me in some bother, but that's what I love the most about the law, it's punitive, not preventative.
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Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Blade.
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:05:00 -
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You ask why, I ask why not?
Signature removed, please only use English on the forums. Zymurgist
Okay sweet-cheeks xxx. Avon |
Clytamnestra
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:06:00 -
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PvP in eve surprised the heck out of me the first time I was exposed to it. By pirates of course.
I had never felt such an exhilaration in a video game before. I've played shooters and other MMOs of course, but eve is different.
So I started to talking to the pirates who got me in my shiny new Catalyst, trying my first steps out into low-sec. They seemed like real nice people, so I joined up with them and I never looked back. Pirates in eve are some of the kindest, warmest people I have ever know over the internets.
What motivates me these days is getting that kick. I'd also like to get to that point where I'm good enough to sustain myself on piracy, but I'm horrible at that.
Do my tendencies carry over into real life? I'm not sure if you're driving at trying to make a point that people who pvp in eve are some kind of misfits.
I'm the sweetest guy you ever knew. Most of my corp mates are too. Well, there are a few...
It's just a game man. Yeah losing a ship that took you a week of playing to make the isk for sucks. I've lost ships that make me want to rage quit as well.
If the game would deny me my uninvited destruction, then I would just play something else. Action games are a dime a dozen, but eve gives me heart palpitations and no other game does that.
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Ick Ickagami
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: OmniBeton
Tears of my victims. And yes, real live flustration.
A wonderful and refreshingly honest, insightful answer. Thank you.
So, making others feel bad eases your own pain?
Intriguing.
I assume it is the 'misery loves company' effect?
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Kaar
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:07:00 -
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Its a PVP game, the idea is to blow **** up.
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Sol Mahon
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:09:00 -
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I find myself making excuses for blowing someone else up, I don't like to just indiscriminantly destroy other peoples hard work, although the excuses tend to be rather vague for example:
With my minmatar character I only destroy (without reason) Amarr players.
With this character I only destroy (without reason) players below 0.0 security status.
Thats not to say I disagree with other peoples way of playing, PVP is what makes EVE in my oppinion and the individual pilots motives are ultimately irrelevant. I wouldn't expect anyone to have a reason beyond "I was here and you were here, so I'm gonna blow you up"
Up until joining a corporation or alliance, EVE is very much a competative, every man for themselves kind of game, and thats why I like it. If the destruction of someone elses assets helps you, then go for it. |
Dimitryy
Gallente
Ever Flow
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ick Ickagami
Serious question, looking into the mind and psyche of the 'pirate'.
Are you more prone to attack a specific type of ship/player/asset?
What motivates you? What is your drive to do uninvited destruction?
Do these tendencies carry over to/from real life, or is this game more of a release valve for real life frustrations?
I find the entire concept................fascinating.
Well as for what motivates me, i just enjoy the fighting. PvP in Eve is really a unique experiance, risking your assets gives you a level of tension that you dont find in most games, and the combat itself, as well as the planning, is more cerebral than most games.
As for targetting a specific shiptype or player, most pvpers will absolutely discriminate when deciding what to engage. Different ships and setups have vastly different abilities and one of the real keys to good pvp is knowing when to fight and when to run.
As for carrying over to real life, i cant speak for every pirate in the game, but for the people i run with, losing ships and losing fights is just a part of the game, something you may be dissapointed about, but not really angry. To us, people getting angry at losing a ship is as strange to us as us killing it is to you.
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gunnar aztek
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:10:00 -
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killing someone in eve might make a pirate think, "hah i outsmarted someone", or "hah i just out played that player", oooor "hah i'm better than everyone else!".
but i wouldn't know, i'm a carebear...
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Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:12:00 -
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Mostly other people do the killing.
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Lex Striker
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.09 12:13:00 -
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The best answer to this question is simple... people destroy other people's ships and pod them (if they are able to) simply because 'it pleases them to do so'.
Now, I have heard many people say that they are NOT the person offline that they are online. Oh really? If that is true, then who is controlling one's character online?... the devil? Well, I would probably think that most people are more the people they are online than off. Why?... because they would either end up dead or in prison if they did what they do online in the offline world. Online, they are free to be or do whatever they want.
If one wants to get down deep... perhaps the feeling of power over another... especially a real person rather than an NPC, and especially when it becomes a matter of life and death... even if only in a simulation. In many ways, because humans are really the only predetor of humans, this is by 'design'? [grins]... perhaps. When we have power over another, perhaps we also feel more secure... who knows? [shrugs]
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