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Mia Trask
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.21 07:37:00 -
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I am a miner and in my life time on eve i have been ganked (in my hulk) twice the first time i will chalk it up to my bad i had no tank and broadcasted my location (a few jumps from jita) during a hulkageddon event. I was adamant this wouldn't happen again so fitted a shield tank and had an orca rep me so i could still max my yield...the day came when those cruisers targeted me and i think i fudged up by shield repping to soon as the mod didn't get to do two cycles off before i popped. The gankers didn't have someone on hand to salvage and i managed to get a noctis to the belt and clean up before they came back(they didn't).I salvaged quite allot and after a quick glance at their fits this has confirmed my suspicions that hulk ganking is profitable on its own without the hulk bounty. Now then ...I don't mine all the time(can't now as i can't afford another mining barge) i enjoy pvp aswell in fact although i consider myself a miner i spend more time scouting and practicing maneuvers. I also happen to agree that hulks belong in low-null sec and orcas are an abomination of high sec. I'm going off topic I have kill rights on two people and i thought i would let the dust settle and hunt down and gank them in their pve ships. so alts at the ready location agents used and the buggers ain't logged on since.I think this maybe a time zone problem or they are alts as they have moved systems a few times but never when I'm online. My goal wasn't to catch them out in pvp ships but maybe a miner or hauler or if I'm lucky a mission ship an eye for an eye.I have given up i suck at high sec pvp...now to my point... its not really pvp thou is it ,Ganking i mean you never see these guys roaming low secs, i have overheard a few vets offering to introduce new players and miners into pvp by teaching them how to gank mining ships but really its just target practice isn't it, oh yes there is a nak to it but lets be honest its a no risk operation just as shooting fish in a barrel isn't fishing ganking is just a time attack to get your dps high enough to pop the target before the fuzz get there not Player vs Player is it?.I don't know prove me wrong. To me eve is a pvp game and ganking is an exploit not steel to steel pvp. |

Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Republic University Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2012.07.21 07:38:00 -
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Yes ganking is pvp. |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
777
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Posted - 2012.07.21 07:38:00 -
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I see the beginning of paragraphs in there. Try again you've almost got it. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |

Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
457
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Posted - 2012.07.21 07:43:00 -
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You're a Player (I assume. Since you're posting here) The Ganker is a Player (hard to make a Ganking bot, I'd think) There's violence in the middle.
P v P EvE: Everyone vs Everyone |

Marconus Orion
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
283
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Posted - 2012.07.21 07:45:00 -
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It is a form of PvP, yes. Granted an extremely cowardly way. |

MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
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Posted - 2012.07.21 07:45:00 -
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No, ganking is not PvP. The proper term for it is Pvc (note the intentional lack of capitalization). |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1362
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Posted - 2012.07.21 07:51:00 -
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Mia Trask wrote:I am a miner and in my life time on eve i have been ganked (in my hulk) twice the first time i will chalk it up to my bad i had no tank and broadcasted my location (a few jumps from jita) during a hulkageddon event. I was adamant this wouldn't happen again so fitted a shield tank and had an orca rep me so i could still max my yield...the day came when those cruisers targeted me and i think i fudged up by shield repping to soon as the mod didn't get to do two cycles off before i popped. The gankers didn't have someone on hand to salvage and i managed to get a noctis to the belt and clean up before they came back(they didn't).I salvaged quite allot and after a quick glance at their fits this has confirmed my suspicions that hulk ganking is profitable on its own without the hulk bounty. Now then ...I don't mine all the time(can't now as i can't afford another mining barge) i enjoy pvp aswell in fact although i consider myself a miner i spend more time scouting and practicing maneuvers. I also happen to agree that hulks belong in low-null sec and orcas are an abomination of high sec. I'm going off topic I have kill rights on two people and i thought i would let the dust settle and hunt down and gank them in their pve ships. so alts at the ready location agents used and the buggers ain't logged on since.I think this maybe a time zone problem or they are alts as they have moved systems a few times but never when I'm online. My goal wasn't to catch them out in pvp ships but maybe a miner or hauler or if I'm lucky a mission ship an eye for an eye.I have given up i suck at high sec pvp...now to my point... its not really pvp thou is it ,Ganking i mean you never see these guys roaming low secs, i have overheard a few vets offering to introduce new players and miners into pvp by teaching them how to gank mining ships but really its just target practice isn't it, oh yes there is a nak to it but lets be honest its a no risk operation just as shooting fish in a barrel isn't fishing ganking is just a time attack to get your dps high enough to pop the target before the fuzz get there not Player vs Player is it?.I don't know prove me wrong. To me eve is a pvp game and ganking is an exploit not steel to steel pvp.
I'm sorry that you feel this way. Perhaps another game where nonconsensual PvP is disallowed by the game mechanics would be more suitable for your playstyle? a rogue goon |

Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
263
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Posted - 2012.07.21 07:55:00 -
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Its the lowest form of PvP for those players who either just enjoy raining on someone elses day or are otherwise afraid to engage ships that can fight back. Either way gankers are cowards but yes, they are engaging in PvP. |

Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
78
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Posted - 2012.07.21 08:04:00 -
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Of course it's PvP.
But I'm inclined to agree with others that it's fairly low form of PvP against an opponent that realistically has absolutely no way of fighting back on it's own and survive. If these players consider themselves somekind of amazing PvP kings you can rightfully laugh at their faces, because there's absolutely zilch glory in destroying something that is as good as defenseless. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1633
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Posted - 2012.07.21 08:05:00 -
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Hi,would you like to learn some forum PvP? |
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DarkAegix
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
1155
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Posted - 2012.07.21 08:05:00 -
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Tiers of PVP Elite tier: Solo PVP Small gang PVP
Medium tier: Gate camping
Low tier: "Solo" PVP with Falcon alt Blob warfare
Coward tier: "It's hot drop o'clock!"
**** tier: Suicide ganking |

Jonni Favorite
Sundown Logistics SpaceMonkey's Alliance
117
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Posted - 2012.07.21 08:06:00 -
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Just play the game, play it your way the same way the other guy does (yes the guy that shot your ****), quit over analyzing everything. These forums just make the game suck, sigh! |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1362
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Posted - 2012.07.21 08:11:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Tiers of PVP Elite tier: Solo PVP Small gang PVP
Medium tier: Gate camping
Low tier: "Solo" PVP with Falcon alt Blob warfare
Coward tier: "It's hot drop o'clock!"
**** tier: Suicide ganking
let me sort it by relevance:
highly relevant:
suicide ganking blob warfare
absolutely irrelevant:
wulfpax/small gangs/whatever a rogue goon |

ACE McFACE
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
791
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Posted - 2012.07.21 08:11:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Tiers of PVP Elite tier: Solo PVP Small gang PVP Forum PvP
Medium tier: Gate camping
Low tier: "Solo" PVP with Falcon alt and cloaky loki/tengu/legion/proteus alt and neut logi alt (if its high sec) Blob warfare
Coward tier: "It's hot drop o'clock!"
**** tier: Suicide ganking Fixed "7 pages of people insulting me - aka trolling" - Lady Hofstedar What s/he (probobly he) meant: "7 pages of people disagreeing with my terrible idea - aka trolling" - Lady Hofstedar |

Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
230
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Posted - 2012.07.21 08:15:00 -
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how about..
Boss-Tier: *list everything your character/group does*
Scrub-Tier: *list everything everyone else does* The Order of the Falcon or Hin +¡slenska f+ílkaor+¦a is a national Order of Iceland |

Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
263
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Posted - 2012.07.21 08:17:00 -
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Jonni Favorite wrote:Just play the game, play it your way the same way the other guy does (yes the guy that shot your ****), quit over analyzing everything. These forums just make the game suck, sigh!
And yet we are drawn to the forums like moth to the flame...no clue why really. |

Pisov viet
Kaesong Kosmonauts Test Alliance Please Ignore
77
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Posted - 2012.07.21 08:36:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Tiers of PVP Elite tier: Solo PVP Small gang PVP
Medium tier: Gate camping
Low tier: "Solo" PVP with Falcon alt Blob warfare
Coward tier: "It's hot drop o'clock!"
**** tier: Suicide ganking You, sir, are a scrub. |

Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
263
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Posted - 2012.07.21 08:42:00 -
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Pisov viet wrote:DarkAegix wrote:Tiers of PVP Elite tier: Solo PVP Small gang PVP
Medium tier: Gate camping
Low tier: "Solo" PVP with Falcon alt Blob warfare
Coward tier: "It's hot drop o'clock!"
**** tier: Suicide ganking You, sir, are a scrub.
Ah now there is that intellectual witticism we have all grown to love on the Eve Forums. |

Krysta Bourne
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.07.21 09:07:00 -
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Ganking is to PvP as Mike Tyson beating up the 3rd grade cripple is to boxing.
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Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
372
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Posted - 2012.07.21 09:09:00 -
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Suicide gankers continue to fight bravely despite being faced with certain death and impossible odds, making them the most honourable warriors in EVE. Post with your monkey. |
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Cede Forster
Graffa
8
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Posted - 2012.07.21 09:11:00 -
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Miners
Getting paid to be pray. What did you think you get the ISK for, your hard honest work shooting at asteroids and all? |

Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
457
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Posted - 2012.07.21 09:14:00 -
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Bunnie Hop wrote:Pisov viet wrote:DarkAegix wrote:Tiers of PVP Elite tier: Solo PVP Small gang PVP
Medium tier: Gate camping
Low tier: "Solo" PVP with Falcon alt Blob warfare
Coward tier: "It's hot drop o'clock!"
**** tier: Suicide ganking You, sir, are a scrub. Ah now there is that intellectual witticism we have all grown to love on the Eve Forums.
Solo and Small gang PvP skills have never taken nor held anything important.
The organizational skills required to field large fleets in the right time at the right place with the right numbers on the other hand... EvE: Everyone vs Everyone |

Ms Kat
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2012.07.21 09:14:00 -
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This game being marketed as a PvP game is just a joke!
In my mind PvP is where both sides have a equal chance of winning a fight. There is actualy skill involved etc.
Now eve pvp consists of spying, lieing and exploiting game mechaics to tip the balance in your direction. Then Hiding when the advantage isnt yours.
The game has no skill - other than who has jumped through ccp's hoops the longest and trained more sp's. Or maybe the guy who has EFT'd the longest and figured out a good ship fit |

Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
119
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Posted - 2012.07.21 09:42:00 -
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There is no pvp in eve that isn't ganking. |

Karkaroph
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2012.07.21 09:44:00 -
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Mia Trask wrote:Is Ganking PvP?
Karkaroph believes that it is in fact the best kind of PvP.
I have seen so much of it, that truly I know nothing of it, except that it embaces me.
I, Karkaroph. |

Karkaroph
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2012.07.21 09:46:00 -
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Ms Kat wrote:This game being marketed as a PvP game is just a joke!
In my mind PvP is where both sides have a equal chance of winning a fight. There is actualy skill involved etc.
Now eve pvp consists of spying, lieing and exploiting game mechaics to tip the balance in your direction. Then Hiding when the advantage isnt yours.
The game has no skill - other than who has jumped through ccp's hoops the longest and trained more sp's. Or maybe the guy who has EFT'd the longest and figured out a good ship fit
You're essentially describing every major battle and conflict that mankind has engaged in since we were upright monkeys throwing f+ªces at each other.
PvP is a continuation of the best offensive strategy ever devised: "The Gank". Is it therefore surprising that people such as yourself find it offensive?
Karkaroph thinks not. I have seen so much of it, that truly I know nothing of it, except that it embaces me.
I, Karkaroph. |

Cameron Cahill
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
72
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Posted - 2012.07.21 09:56:00 -
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Mia Trask wrote: I'm going off topic I have kill rights on two people and i thought i would let the dust settle and hunt down and gank them in their pve ships. so alts at the ready location agents used and the buggers ain't logged on since.I think this maybe a time zone problem or they are alts as they have moved systems a few times but never when I'm online. My goal wasn't to catch them out in pvp ships but maybe a miner or hauler or if I'm lucky a mission ship an eye for an eye.I have given up i suck at high sec pvp...now to my point... its not really pvp thou is it
Sorry to **** on you're parade friend but they either live in low/null or are alts. Sec status prevents them living in high if they gank a lot.
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Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
95
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Posted - 2012.07.21 10:35:00 -
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Teinyhr wrote:Of course it's PvP.
But I'm inclined to agree with others that it's fairly low form of PvP against an opponent that realistically has absolutely no way of fighting back on it's own and survive. If these players consider themselves somekind of amazing PvP kings you can rightfully laugh at their faces, because there's absolutely zilch glory in destroying something that is as good as defenseless. So by your (faulty carebear) logic, gate camps, small gangs attacking single targets, and solo PvPers picking on an outclassed ship are all fairly low forms of PvP, with 'zilch' glory to be won? Maybe you should tell these space-hipsters, who are currently furiously stoking their e-peens, while shouting out "Large fleet warfare is so mainstream" in the vain hope someone will notice them. "The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |

Possum's Awesome
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
50
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Posted - 2012.07.21 10:40:00 -
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Is ganking PvP?
Is the ganker a Player?
Is the miner a Player?
Question answered. Possum's Awesome : Awesome Possum
Unjustly accused and condemned for his crimes. |

Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
201
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Posted - 2012.07.21 10:46:00 -
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is one player shooting another pvp? gee, i don't know. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
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