You're essentially describing every major battle and conflict that mankind has engaged in since we were upright monkeys throwing f+ªces at each other.

PvP is a continuation of the best offensive strategy ever devised: "The Gank". Is it therefore surprising that people such as yourself find it offensive?

Karkaroph thinks not.

So by your (faulty carebear) logic, gate camps, small gangs attacking single targets, and solo PvPers picking on an outclassed ship are all fairly low forms of PvP, with 'zilch' glory to be won? Maybe you should tell these space-hipsters, who are currently furiously stoking their e-peens, while shouting out "Large fleet warfare is so mainstream" in the vain hope someone will notice them.

I feel I should warn you, I am lactoseintollerant and have rather large hands

Is ganking PvP?

Is the ganker a Player?

Is the miner a Player?

Question answered.

No (and yes), no aaand - no. There's a difference fighting something that can bite you back and something that is only dangerous to space rocks. I'm just tired of seeing people thumping their chests on destroying a mining ship, fitted like a mining ship, like they were the gods of PvP.

what really gets me is not folks attacking miners, but attacking them by exploiting game mechanics, miners have a very narrow choices of trying to defend himself ... not only that ... but CCP just accepts the fact that exploiting game mechanics should be allowed is rather sad and pathetic :s

IF you wanna gank something , gank something which can actually defend themselves not new players who are just weeks and months old :s

This game being marketed as a PvP game is just a joke!

In my mind PvP is where both sides have a equal chance of winning a fight. There is actualy skill involved etc.


Now eve pvp consists of spying, lieing and exploiting game mechaics to tip the balance in your direction. Then Hiding when the advantage isnt yours.

The game has no skill - other than who has jumped through ccp's hoops the longest and trained more sp's. Or maybe the guy who has EFT'd the longest and figured out a good ship fit

Ganking miners is to pvp as street mugging old ladies is to street gang violence.

let me sort it by relevance:

highly relevant:

suicide ganking
blob warfare

absolutely irrelevant:

wulfpax/small gangs/whatever

The ganker is always a player. The miner, on the other hand...

Since both parties were players and since no exploits are involved, yes. Of course it is.

Um, so are they both players or aren't they?

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Um, so are they both players or aren't they?
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Ganking is to PvP as Mike Tyson beating up the 3rd grade cripple is to boxing.

let me sort it by relevance:

highly relevant:

suicide ganking
blob warfare

absolutely irrelevant:

wulfpax/small gangs/whatever

In the strictest definition, ganking would fit because it is one player pitting himself against another player, thus Player versus Player. However, the glory and respect gained is usually minimal because there is no challenge or real risk involved. Yes, one will lose the ship and modules, of course, but the risk I speak of is that of failure. That risk should always be assumed by the attacker, not the defender (the defender has his own risk quotient dependent upon his own activity), and because that risk is minimal in that regard, it is unbalanced PvP to say the least.

That said, it is a tricky balancing act. I support the right to gank, and I support the right to mine. Actually, I support most every activity within the game, so I can see the viewpoint of most everyone involved.

There is this trick miners can pull but its not all that well known. Its called fitting a tank.

No (and yes), no aaand - no. There's a difference fighting something that can bite you back and something that is only dangerous to space rocks. I'm just tired of seeing people thumping their chests on destroying a mining ship, fitted like a mining ship, like they were the gods of PvP.

my father disowned me after he found out i play eve