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skimore1 Gneiss Schist INC. 0	Posted - 2012.07.21 23:20:00 - [1] - Quote Because there has been tech 3 cruisers i would love to see tech 3 frigates. How would everyone feel about it?
Saile Litestrider Finest Kobold Engineering 38	Posted - 2012.07.21 23:25:00 - [2] - Quote I think it's pretty widely agreed that T3s are in a pretty poor state right now. Obsoleting too many ships, not being able to use enough subsystems, not doing enough unique stuff that isn't just "ship x, but better". I'd much prefer they finish their plan to iteratively rebalance every ship out there, then go through and take a look at the balance of all the modules, and then probably take a pass at all the various professions, before they even think about T3 frigates. There's just too much that doesn't work nearly as well as it should.
Taoist Dragon Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo 4	Posted - 2012.07.21 23:26:00 - [3] - Quote Meh! Sort out the current lines ups (teiricide etc) first before adding extras IMO edit: ^^ as above
Tankn00blicus sleep Deprivation INC. LLC 13	Posted - 2012.07.22 06:36:00 - [4] - Quote A CCP dev posted in another thread a while back (too tired to go find the link) that T3 frigates are not likely to happen as they would be too fragile for the price tag.
Paikis Red Phoenix Industries 84	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:03:00 - [5] - Quote There was some talk about Tech 3 Battleships, but as above, I hope they don't do it. One of two scenarios will occur: 1. They are as powerful as the T3 Cruisers and suddenly no one uses any of the other battleships anymore. Crying on the forums about TEH OP T3 BATTULSHEEPS! 2. They are balanced properly, they can do many roles but not as well as their specialized counterparts and no one uses them at all. Crying on the forums about the GIMP T3 BATTULSHEEPS! There is no way to win.
W0lf Crendraven The Tuskers 11	Posted - 2012.07.22 07:23:00 - [6] - Quote As said before i cant see it happening, seeing as the tier3 cruisers are still cruisers (albeit very good ones) meaining that the tier3 frigate would just be a very very good frigate but still frigates wich would make it very hard to fly such a ship considered the pricetag it would most certanily have! (i.e it would have frigate weaknesses, could get alphaed and killed otherwise way to easily)
Caleidascope Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 115	Posted - 2012.07.22 08:32:00 - [7] - Quote There are many frigates in the game already. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat desert first!
Scatim Helicon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 608	Posted - 2012.07.22 09:56:00 - [8] - Quote Yeah, the last thing that Eve needs is a whole new range of frigates thrown in to the already overcrowded line-up. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge **.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006 ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever.
Jerick Ludhowe Toxic Waste Industries 97	Posted - 2012.07.22 13:40:00 - [9] - Quote skimore1 wrote: Because there has been tech 3 cruisers i would love to see tech 3 frigates. How would everyone feel about it? Just what we need... More poorly balanced game breaking content with silly sp loss mechanics that make no sense at all...
Large Collidable Object morons. 1747	Posted - 2012.07.22 16:17:00 - [10] - Quote Whenever I read that idea, the first thought coming to my mind is 0/10. The very idea is so blatantly stupid anyone suggesting it must be trolling. They'd be impossible to balance. You know... morons.

Tor Gungnir Agenda Industries 321	Posted - 2012.07.22 18:53:00 - [11] - Quote The Strategic Cruisers are game-breaking as it is. Strategic Frigates would just mess everything up even more, regardless of how cool and interesting they would be. Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Flurk Hellbron Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 106	Posted - 2012.07.22 22:37:00 - [12] - Quote Skipp T3 frigs............... just make em T4 instead.
Canabi Frontier Explorer's League Rebel Alliance of New Eden 3	Posted - 2012.07.22 22:53:00 - [13] - Quote I agree with the responses that have been posted stating that they should not be intrduced, nor should any other Tech 3 variation. What I don't understand is why people like to throw around the term "game breaking." What is so game breaking about the current Tech 3 lineup? Something that would be game breaking would be to release a Jove ship. That would be game breaking. T3 ships don't break the game. If you think it's broken, why would you keep playing? Or, better yet, why don't you exclusively fly a T3 ship, seeing as how you believe them to be overpowered or some damn thing. Bad players see things that they don't fully understand or know how to use/counter/kill as game breaking. Stop throwing that term around.
Tor Gungnir Agenda Industries 321	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:03:00 - [14] - Quote Canabi wrote: I agree with the responses that have been posted stating that they should not be intrduced, nor should any other Tech 3 variation. What I don't understand is why people like to throw around the term "game breaking." What is so game breaking about the current Tech 3 lineup? The Tengu and PvE, generally. Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Canabi Frontier Explorer's League Rebel Alliance of New Eden 3	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:06:00 - [15] - Quote Not concerned with PvE and being "game breaking." It doesn't really affect any other player as PvE can be done solo. As far as the Tengu is concerened. What exactly breaks the game?
Daniel Plain Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 256	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:09:00 - [16] - Quote oh look. it's this topic again. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF
Hatsumi Kobayashi Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 143	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:18:00 - [17] - Quote Canabi wrote: I agree with the responses that have been posted stating that they should not be intrduced, nor should any other Tech 3 variation. What I don't understand is why people like to throw around the term "game breaking." What is so game breaking about the current Tech 3 lineup? Something that would be game breaking would be to release a Jove ship. That would be game breaking. T3 ships don't break the game. If you think it's broken, why would you keep playing? Or, better yet, why don't you exclusively fly a T3 ship, seeing as how you believe them to be overpowered or some damn thing. Bad players see things that they don't fully understand or know how to use/counter/kill as game breaking. Stop throwing that term around. T3s were meant as jack-of-all-trades ships, ships that could potentially fulfill the roles of HACs, Recons and Command Ships, sometimes at the same time, but without obsoleting anything on the way. Turns out they kinda did, don't you think? The only T3 that actually meets this goal is the Legion and people usually deem it too terrible to fly compared to the other three. CAUTION SNIGGS
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions 571	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:33:00 - [18] - Quote Tor Gungnir wrote: Canabi wrote: I agree with the responses that have been posted stating that they should not be intrduced, nor should any other Tech 3 variation. What I don't understand is why people like to throw around the term "game breaking." What is so game breaking about the current Tech 3 lineup? The Tengu and PvE, generally. Would you care to actually elaborate on just how the Tengu has broken PvE? Or vice versa if that's the case?
Eternal Error Exitus Acta Probant 77	Posted - 2012.07.22 23:57:00 - [19] - Quote Devs have already stated that t3 frigs are not on the list of things to do.
Tor Gungnir Agenda Industries 321	Posted - 2012.07.23 00:47:00 - [20] - Quote Zhilia Mann wrote: Tor Gungnir wrote: Canabi wrote: I agree with the responses that have been posted stating that they should not be intrduced, nor should any other Tech 3 variation. What I don't understand is why people like to throw around the term "game breaking." What is so game breaking about the current Tech 3 lineup? The Tengu and PvE, generally. Would you care to actually elaborate on just how the Tengu has broken PvE? Or vice versa if that's the case? It is not so much the Tengu as it is the damage projection of Heavy Missiles. The Drake shows this too, to a lesser extent. The Tengu is just able to exploit the heck out of it and for PvE purposes there are very few situations these days where a Tengu isn't the optimal solution. Then you have the less obvious issues that are general across all Strategic Cruisers, such as making Command Ships (no I am not talking about a DPS Sleipnir) obsolete. Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.

Linna Excel Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 66	Posted - 2012.07.23 02:36:00 - [21] - Quote Tankn00blicus wrote: A CCP dev posted in another thread a while back (too tired to go find the link) that T3 frigates are not likely to happen as they would be too fragile for the price tag. This. The only way I see T3 frigates working is if they need virtually no mats and/or have only 2 subsystems... they would have to be in the range of pirate frigates in terms of price but no more powerful. The skill loss on ship loss would also be problematic as they'd be easier to pop than a tengu. What do you get when you cross an owl and a bungee cord?
Terranid Meester Tactical Assault and Recon Unit 43	Posted - 2012.07.23 12:23:00 - [22] - Quote Depends what role you give tech 3 frigates I suppose. Sub-systems for logistics frigates, sentry drone frigate, cruiser weapon sub-system, hic bubble frigate, sub-system for allowing fast warp to get ahead of taregts but not neccesarilly high speed, long range firing sub-system etc

CCP Ytterbium C C P C C P Alliance 787	Posted - 2012.07.23 13:16:00 - [23] - Quote Oink!

Danel Tosh EVE Protection Agency Intrepid Crossing 30	Posted - 2012.07.23 14:00:00 - [24] - Quote I dont think there is a sufficient need for tech 3 frigates out there. the devs need to refocus on balanceing current tech 3 ships (ie nerf tengu buff everything else). However tech 3 industrials are pure win in my opinion. more uber tanked, cloaky miners please!
Bloodpetal Mimidae Risk Solutions 714	Posted - 2012.07.23 14:55:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Ytterbium wrote: Oink! I see your Oink! and raise you a "COME ON!!!" Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting
Colonel Xaven Decadence. RAZOR Alliance 88	Posted - 2012.07.23 15:30:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Ytterbium wrote: Oink! /thread
Warpshade Warped Industries 11	Posted - 2012.07.23 16:08:00 - [27] - Quote You just know if T3 stuffs ever got widely implimented, how long would it be before we saw "can we has T4 insert item request here", Just no point to adding anything beyond the system we already have in place, just creates redundant items, and a power creep within the game, that just isnt needed. Anything that does have a place in the game can just be added in form of a new T1 or T2 variant ship. Despite the fact the current T3's could be arguably rebalanced, I think CCP got the idea of T3 right; a singular mid sized ship that omni roles.
Ava Starfire Skadi's Call Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 364	Posted - 2012.07.23 17:09:00 - [28] - Quote As a career solo frig / AF pilot... no. Do not want T3 frigs. The strategic cruisers are ridiculous enough.
Schalac Apocalypse Reign 61	Posted - 2012.07.23 17:59:00 - [29] - Quote I think T3 should not be race bound. It should just be a universal class of ship that has different subsystems for anything that you want it to do. That way instead of 4 new ships coming onto the scene with so many different problems and configurations, you would only have one. While it will still have balancing issues, it would be more of an x-factor to see it on scan or OV and I think it might be easier to work with if that was the case.
skimore1 Gneiss Schist INC. 0	Posted - 2012.07.24 00:12:00 - [30] - Quote i do believe what schalac is right and it would be nicer to see it that way, but i wish that the curents tech 3 cruisers need to be more broad and add new eliments in to the game.



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