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Currin Trading
Nullsec Community Organizers
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Posted - 2010.07.18 01:02:00 -
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WELCOME TO JITAFEST
On Sunday, August 1st at 20:00 Evetime, pilots from all across the Eve galaxy will converge on Jita and the surrounding systems to honor those who have died from lag and continue to suffer from this crippling ailment. Everyone is encouraged to attend and show solidarity with the victims of lag.
Why JITAFEST?
As CSM has learned, there there will be no fix for lag in the near future and CCP considers the technical situation to be "in a better state than it has ever been". Petitions will not even be considered if they involve nullsec fleet battles. The outcome of all contests between the powers of Eve, no matter how many titans they field or how clever their plans, will be determined by lag and node crashes--and those determinations are final.
Rather than whining, counter-whining, petitioning and counter-petitioning, the citizens of Eve will channel their frustrations and concerns into something positive and uplifting for the Eve community. They are coming to Jita.
But won't JITAFEST cause lag or crash the server?
In a word, no.
Jita and its surrounding systems can support much more traffic than anywhere else in Eve. Nullsec pilots risk everything in fleets that lag into oblivion, but the market hubs of highsec have been given every resource needed to ensure that thousands of people and thousands of bots can move rocks without the slightest interruption.
Jita has the highest capacity of any system in Eve, and player caps are in place to optimize performance. It is the perfect location for a massive gathering of Eve citizens. CCP also has ample time to reinforce nodes if they see the need.
If thousands more than expected attend JITAFEST and all of Jita's neighboring systems become filled, participants will be directed to satellite services held in the systems with the next highest capacity: Rens, Amarr and Dodixie. Join the channel JITAFEST to coordinate your activities on the day of the event.
Empire dwellers may not like the extra traffic, but it doesn't matter because everyone is going to have a fantastic time. Highsec residents are encouraged to turn off their macros for awhile and join in.
What can we expect from JITAFEST?
Participants will honor their dead in unique and creative ways. With pilots from all alliances and corporations gathering for the first time, respectful activity is encouraged to avoid diplomatic incidents. Please be aware that many alliances have war-dec's and will be killing each other. People may also be very drunk at this time.
Lost fleets and especially the many supercaps that have died (and occasionally reborn) to lag will be eulogized. Contests and prizes will also be awarded as we celebrate the miracle of life in these uncertain times.
Anyone up for a 1,000 ship conga line?
How can I support JITAFEST?
Cross-post this announcement to your corporation and alliance forums. Make plans to attend. If your main is unable to make the journey, please send an alt to pay respects on your behalf.
In this thread, you are encouraged to RSVP; corporations and alliances may also offer their official endorsement of JITAFEST here. Artwork, stories and videos concerning your experiences with lag are appreciated. Post your ideas for JITAFEST activities.
If you do attend JITAFEST, feel free to take screenshots or video to commemorate the event.
Don't forget to join the channel JITAFEST on Sunday, August 1st. Festivities begin at 20:00 Evetime.
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Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.18 01:15:00 -
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Foiled by 1400 player cap?
Event over before it even started.
Orca Pilot Sale |

Currin Trading
Nullsec Community Organizers
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Posted - 2010.07.18 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane Foiled by 1400 player cap?
Event over before it even started.
Read the post, we're already aware of the player caps. We'll try to get everyone as close to Jita as we can.  |

SammyullJackson
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Posted - 2010.07.18 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Currin Trading
Originally by: Sader Rykane Foiled by 1400 player cap?
Event over before it even started.
Read the post, we're already aware of the player caps. We'll try to get everyone as close to Jita as we can. 
Your knowledge of EVE's server mechanics is astounding.
Are you a wizard?
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Currin Trading
Nullsec Community Organizers
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Posted - 2010.07.18 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: SammyullJackson Your knowledge of EVE's server mechanics is astounding.
Are you a wizard?
Yeah.  |

Marshiro
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Posted - 2010.07.18 02:07:00 -
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Can you stuff them all at the perimeter gate into jita? 
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Currin Trading
Nullsec Community Organizers
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Posted - 2010.07.18 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Marshiro Can you stuff them all at the perimeter gate into jita? 
I expect Perimeter will get fairly crowded once Jita hits the cap, yeah. |

Racknor
The Salty Dogs
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Posted - 2010.07.18 02:27:00 -
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I'll be there and I fully support this mission.
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Corska Zrai
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.07.18 02:37:00 -
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This is just an attempt to gather people for, possibly, the largest node crash in EVE history. Thousands will gather in and around Jita to mourn everyone's losses. Then either a single person, a small group, or the general public, will start to partake in lag inducing activities.
Placing thousands of meaningless orders. Spawning godly amounts of Concord. I'm sure some enterprising soul will come up with something new.
August 1st is the day CCP gives up and closes Jita. 
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Neighbourhood Spiderman
Daily Bugle
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Posted - 2010.07.18 02:44:00 -
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And While ever one is in JITA they should make lightshow ship( a ship that makes pretty lights i.e torps,lazors,logic drones,sensor boosters etc) around jita 404 and the gate to help with JITA FEAST.
This has been a word from your, Friendly Neighbourhood Spiderman
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Currin Trading
Nullsec Community Organizers
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Posted - 2010.07.18 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Corska Zrai This is just an attempt to gather people for, possibly, the largest node crash in EVE history.
No, if people wanted to crash a node they'd have fifty players go into a nullsec system. The location we're gathering is the one area least likely to crash. |

Terrigal
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Posted - 2010.07.18 02:50:00 -
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Bring out your DEAD errr Drones. I'll be there.
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Jurona
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Posted - 2010.07.18 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Currin Trading
Originally by: Corska Zrai This is just an attempt to gather people for, possibly, the largest node crash in EVE history.
No, if people wanted to crash a node they'd have fifty players go into a nullsec system. The location we're gathering is the one area least likely to crash.
Wow, overloading a node, reinforced or otherwise, causes it to crash? I DIDN'T KNOW!
What a way to prove your point!
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Currin Trading
Nullsec Community Organizers
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Posted - 2010.07.18 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jurona Wow, overloading a node, reinforced or otherwise, causes it to crash? I DIDN'T KNOW!
What a way to prove your point!
The player caps are there to prevent overloading. Worst case scenario, we can redirect traffic as I mentioned in the OP.  |

Corska Zrai
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.07.18 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Currin Trading
Originally by: Jurona Wow, overloading a node, reinforced or otherwise, causes it to crash? I DIDN'T KNOW!
What a way to prove your point!
The player caps are there to prevent overloading. Worst case scenario, we can redirect traffic as I mentioned in the OP. 
200 people * 5-15 Concord ships each... I don't care how reinforced Jita is, it will go down.
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Jurona
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Posted - 2010.07.18 02:58:00 -
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Edited by: Jurona on 18/07/2010 02:58:37
Originally by: Currin Trading
Originally by: Jurona Wow, overloading a node, reinforced or otherwise, causes it to crash? I DIDN'T KNOW!
What a way to prove your point!
The player caps are there to prevent overloading. Worst case scenario, we can redirect traffic as I mentioned in the OP. 
Again... you're proving WHAT, exactly?
While you're at it, can you organize some event to prove that most Caldari ships are asymmetrical or something? I mean, while you're on the roll of proving obvious things.
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Currin Trading
Nullsec Community Organizers
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Posted - 2010.07.18 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Corska Zrai 200 people * 5-15 Concord ships each... I don't care how reinforced Jita is, it will go down.
I'm not planning to get myself wasted by Concord, and the only pew-pew is likely by people with war-decs. Unless you know something I don't? |

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2010.07.18 03:02:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:03:50
Originally by: Currin Trading Don't forget to join the channel JITAFEST on Sunday, August 1st. Festivities begin at 20:00 Evetime.
Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1:
1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. 
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
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Racknor
The Salty Dogs
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Posted - 2010.07.18 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:03:50
Originally by: Currin Trading Don't forget to join the channel JITAFEST on Sunday, August 1st. Festivities begin at 20:00 Evetime.
Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1:
1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. 
I thought this was a sandbox. Am I wrong?
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Corska Zrai
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.07.18 03:09:00 -
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Edited by: Corska Zrai on 18/07/2010 03:11:53
Originally by: Currin Trading
Originally by: Corska Zrai 200 people * 5-15 Concord ships each... I don't care how reinforced Jita is, it will go down.
I'm not planning to get myself wasted by Concord, and the only pew-pew is likely by people with war-decs. Unless you know something I don't?
You obviously underestimate the trolling nature that comes out in people from events like this. The mere fact that this event is about Death by Lag, will make the trolls come out of the woodwork to fulfill your expectations of Death by Lag. It's inevitable.
Sadly, no, I don't have any secret information. If I knew a group of Immortals that were planning some mass suicide gank attempts, in frigates, on this day, I wouldn't spoil their plans.
Originally by: Racknor
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:03:50
Originally by: Currin Trading Don't forget to join the channel JITAFEST on Sunday, August 1st. Festivities begin at 20:00 Evetime.
Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1:
1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. It is a sandbox. It just has barbed wire fences and sniper towers all along the borders. There are certain things a person can that have been labeled an exploit. When the exploits can not be fixed, the exploiters are punished for...exploiting the exploit. Exploit!
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Elzon1
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Posted - 2010.07.18 03:10:00 -
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"Anyone up for a 1,000 ship conga line?"
I am!
Bring out your drones! Bring out your drones!
Maybe this will show CCP that they need to focus on EVE more than trying to support a second game.
By the way just how is DUST 514 going to be supported by EVE when planets aren't even worth fighting over?
Since schematics are completely free and unlimited the manufacturing side of PI has become unprofitable... or at least it has very low profitability. Also I recieved 10 guidance systems as well as 10 superconductors from an angel haven, what the hell? The most profitable thing to do in PI is to setup pure extractor planets, no processing whatsoever it ruins your profitability down the line!
The tyrannis trailer showed a battle with dreadnoughts! No one has yet to use a single dreadnought (or carrier for that matter) to defend or prevent others from using a planet. What changes are coming down the line that are worth people's time? What is going to make them fight for these planets?
I rather have the promised treaty system for 0.0 than DUST 514 to be honest.
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Jurona
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Posted - 2010.07.18 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: Jurona on 18/07/2010 03:11:55 Edited by: Jurona on 18/07/2010 03:11:34 Edited by: Jurona on 18/07/2010 03:10:02
Originally by: Racknor
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:03:50
Originally by: Currin Trading Don't forget to join the channel JITAFEST on Sunday, August 1st. Festivities begin at 20:00 Evetime.
Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1:
1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. 
I thought this was a sandbox. Am I wrong?
Nice try. RL laws trump internet spaceships; and this is malicious behavior that interferes with other peoples' gameplay and threatens the integrity of the server.
Who knew?
Ah, well, good way to get rid of all the complainants... just kick 'em all.
/hopes for MASS BAN
Originally by: Currin Trading
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1:
1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. 
I think this means you can't do things like cans full of bookmarks, smartbombing shuttles, too many mobile warp bubbles, or spawning Concord for the sole purpose of lag. As far as I'm aware there's no rule against too many people in a system, especially when there's a player cap to prevent that. 
Really?
Archiving thread now, then, so CCP knows that this is intentional. Then if they say "oh, what an accident", I'll happily show them that this was engineered by someone.
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Currin Trading
Nullsec Community Organizers
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Posted - 2010.07.18 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1:
1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. 
I think this means you can't do things like cans full of bookmarks, smartbombing shuttles, too many mobile warp bubbles, or spawning Concord for the sole purpose of lag. As far as I'm aware there's no rule against too many people in a system, especially when there's a player cap to prevent that.  |

Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.07.18 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:03:50
Originally by: Currin Trading Don't forget to join the channel JITAFEST on Sunday, August 1st. Festivities begin at 20:00 Evetime.
Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1:
1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. 
By the logic anyone engaging in a fleet fight should get banned 
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Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2010.07.18 03:14:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:14:29
Originally by: Gladys Pank
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:03:50
Originally by: Currin Trading Don't forget to join the channel JITAFEST on Sunday, August 1st. Festivities begin at 20:00 Evetime.
Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1:
1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. 
By the logic anyone engaging in a fleet fight should get banned 
Well, only if you can place a fleet fight in the categrory of "unreasonable large load on the system". Although maybe you could be banned if a huge alliance of 6000, all decided to invade 10 man corp system with the reasoning of "disproportionately large load of the system!"   
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
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Currin Trading
Nullsec Community Organizers
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Posted - 2010.07.18 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Well, only if you can place a fleet fight in the categrory of "unreasonable large load on the system". Although maybe you could be banned if a huge alliance of 6000, all decided to invade 10 man corp system with the reasoning of "disproportionately large load of the system!"   
I think now we're delving into the realm of speculation. If the event poses a problem, CCP will let us know between now and August 1st.  |

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2010.07.18 03:21:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:23:18
Originally by: Currin Trading
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Well, only if you can place a fleet fight in the categrory of "unreasonable large load on the system". Although maybe you could be banned if a huge alliance of 6000, all decided to invade 10 man corp system with the reasoning of "disproportionately large load of the system!"   
I think now we're delving into the realm of speculation. If the event poses a problem, CCP will let us know between now and August 1st. 
That was not speculation. That was my fantasy running wild. 
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
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Currin Trading
Nullsec Community Organizers
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Posted - 2010.07.18 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Corska Zrai You obviously underestimate the trolling nature that comes out in people from events like this. The mere fact that this event is about Death by Lag, will make the trolls come out of the woodwork to fulfill your expectations of Death by Lag. It's inevitable.
There's never been an event like this, so you don't have any point of reference, unless you just want to sling mud at nullsec residents. Were you against Hulkageddon by any chance? |

Musical Fist
Gallente NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.07.18 03:29:00 -
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1. In the past 3 weeks more than 4 alliances in 0.0 have *****ed about inactive people, so the chances of them logging in just to lagg Jita are slim.
2. Lagging a system for a few hours (assuming you get people to join in your blob fest) will not do much unless you plan to live there with 5000+ people in a permo node crash.
3. Its been done before and failed mainly because of the above reasons
4. Strategically thinking lagging out Jita wont do much tbh, at best CCP will fight back rather than caving in and ermm click the magic [kill lagg] buttom, you will probably at best have a stable node or a laggy one nothing else will happen
5. Lets assume you crammed in 15000+ players in Jita permanently, what do you expect CCP to actually do, this 'awareness' is based on the assumption CCP have a shortcut way into fixing lagg
6. CCP have stated they are more focused on 'other' stuff rather than lagg, I really doubt they are going to change their schedule just because of some incoming 3 hour event
7. Unless you are an elite controlling sheep you wont get the numbers you want anyway so I suggest either posting on your main (hoping its a mega famous nerd) or sleep with a meganerd
8. Theres two ways to skin a cat and more than one way to get CCP to focus on the lag issues --
Recruiting now open!! |

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.18 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Corska Zrai This is just an attempt to gather people for, possibly, the largest node crash in EVE history. Thousands will gather in and around Jita to mourn everyone's losses. Then either a single person, a small group, or the general public, will start to partake in lag inducing activities.
Placing thousands of meaningless orders. Spawning godly amounts of Concord. I'm sure some enterprising soul will come up with something new.
August 1st is the day CCP gives up and closes Jita. 
Reported for violating the TOS.
Quote: You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules. This includes, but is not limited to, making inappropriate use of any public channels within the game and/or intentionally creating excessive latency (lag) by dumping cargo containers, corpses or other items in the game world.
Quote: You may not engage in any activity that increases the difficulty and/or expense of CCP in maintaining the EVE Online client, server, web site or other services for the benefit and enjoyment of all its users.
Asshat level 5 much?
This is clearly a signature. |
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