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Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 01:02:00 - [1] WELCOME TO JITAFEST On Sunday, August 1st at 20:00 Evetime, pilots from all across the Eve galaxy will converge on Jita and the surrounding systems to honor those who have died from lag and continue to suffer from this crippling ailment. Everyone is encouraged to attend and show solidarity with the victims of lag. Why JITAFEST? As CSM has learned, there there will be no fix for lag in the near future and CCP considers the technical situation to be "in a better state than it has ever been". Petitions will not even be considered if they involve nullsec fleet battles. The outcome of all contests between the powers of Eve, no matter how many titans they field or how clever their plans, will be determined by lag and node crashes--and those determinations are final. Rather than whining, counter-whining, petitioning and counter-petitioning, the citizens of Eve will channel their frustrations and concerns into something positive and uplifting for the Eve community. They are coming to Jita. But won't JITAFEST cause lag or crash the server? In a word, no. Jita and its surrounding systems can support much more traffic than anywhere else in Eve. Nullsec pilots risk everything in fleets that lag into oblivion, but the market hubs of highsec have been given every resource needed to ensure that thousands of people and thousands of bots can move rocks without the slightest interruption. Jita has the highest capacity of any system in Eve, and player caps are in place to optimize performance. It is the perfect location for a massive gathering of Eve citizens. CCP also has ample time to reinforce nodes if they see the need. If thousands more than expected attend JITAFEST and all of Jita's neighboring systems become filled, participants will be directed to satellite services held in the systems with the next highest capacity: Rens, Amarr and Dodixie. Join the channel JITAFEST to coordinate your activities on the day of the event. Empire dwellers may not like the extra traffic, but it doesn't matter because everyone is going to have a fantastic time. Highsec residents are encouraged to turn off their macros for awhile and join in. What can we expect from JITAFEST? Participants will honor their dead in unique and creative ways. With pilots from all alliances and corporations gathering for the first time, respectful activity is encouraged to avoid diplomatic incidents. Please be aware that many alliances have war-dec's and will be killing each other. People may also be very drunk at this time. Lost fleets and especially the many supercaps that have died (and occasionally reborn) to lag will be eulogized. Contests and prizes will also be awarded as we celebrate the miracle of life in these uncertain times. Anyone up for a 1,000 ship conga line? How can I support JITAFEST? Cross-post this announcement to your corporation and alliance forums. Make plans to attend. If your main is unable to make the journey, please send an alt to pay respects on your behalf. In this thread, you are encouraged to RSVP; corporations and alliances may also offer their official endorsement of JITAFEST here. Artwork, stories and videos concerning your experiences with lag are appreciated. Post your ideas for JITAFEST activities. If you do attend JITAFEST, feel free to take screenshots or video to commemorate the event. Don't forget to join the channel JITAFEST on Sunday, August 1st. Festivities begin at 20:00 Evetime.
Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2010.07.18 01:15:00 - [2] Foiled by 1400 player cap? Event over before it even started. Orca Pilot Sale
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 01:20:00 - [3] Originally by: Sader Rykane Foiled by 1400 player cap? Event over before it even started. Read the post, we're already aware of the player caps. We'll try to get everyone as close to Jita as we can.
SammyullJackson	Posted - 2010.07.18 01:42:00 - [4] Originally by: Currin Trading Originally by: Sader Rykane Foiled by 1400 player cap? Event over before it even started. Read the post, we're already aware of the player caps. We'll try to get everyone as close to Jita as we can. Your knowledge of EVE's server mechanics is astounding. Are you a wizard?
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 02:04:00 - [5] Originally by: SammyullJackson Your knowledge of EVE's server mechanics is astounding. Are you a wizard? Yeah.
Marshiro	Posted - 2010.07.18 02:07:00 - [6] Can you stuff them all at the perimeter gate into jita?
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 02:09:00 - [7] Originally by: Marshiro Can you stuff them all at the perimeter gate into jita? I expect Perimeter will get fairly crowded once Jita hits the cap, yeah.
Racknor The Salty Dogs	Posted - 2010.07.18 02:27:00 - [8] I'll be there and I fully support this mission.
Corska Zrai Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2010.07.18 02:37:00 - [9] This is just an attempt to gather people for, possibly, the largest node crash in EVE history. Thousands will gather in and around Jita to mourn everyone's losses. Then either a single person, a small group, or the general public, will start to partake in lag inducing activities. Placing thousands of meaningless orders. Spawning godly amounts of Concord. I'm sure some enterprising soul will come up with something new. August 1st is the day CCP gives up and closes Jita.
Neighbourhood Spiderman Daily Bugle	Posted - 2010.07.18 02:44:00 - [10] And While ever one is in JITA they should make lightshow ship( a ship that makes pretty lights i.e torps,lazors,logic drones,sensor boosters etc) around jita 404 and the gate to help with JITA FEAST. This has been a word from your, Friendly Neighbourhood Spiderman

Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 02:46:00 - [11] Originally by: Corska Zrai This is just an attempt to gather people for, possibly, the largest node crash in EVE history. No, if people wanted to crash a node they'd have fifty players go into a nullsec system. The location we're gathering is the one area least likely to crash.
Terrigal	Posted - 2010.07.18 02:50:00 - [12] Bring out your DEAD errr Drones. I'll be there.
Jurona	Posted - 2010.07.18 02:50:00 - [13] Originally by: Currin Trading Originally by: Corska Zrai This is just an attempt to gather people for, possibly, the largest node crash in EVE history. No, if people wanted to crash a node they'd have fifty players go into a nullsec system. The location we're gathering is the one area least likely to crash. Wow, overloading a node, reinforced or otherwise, causes it to crash? I DIDN'T KNOW! What a way to prove your point!
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 02:55:00 - [14] Originally by: Jurona Wow, overloading a node, reinforced or otherwise, causes it to crash? I DIDN'T KNOW! What a way to prove your point! The player caps are there to prevent overloading. Worst case scenario, we can redirect traffic as I mentioned in the OP.
Corska Zrai Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2010.07.18 02:56:00 - [15] Originally by: Currin Trading Originally by: Jurona Wow, overloading a node, reinforced or otherwise, causes it to crash? I DIDN'T KNOW! What a way to prove your point! The player caps are there to prevent overloading. Worst case scenario, we can redirect traffic as I mentioned in the OP. 200 people * 5-15 Concord ships each... I don't care how reinforced Jita is, it will go down.
Jurona	Posted - 2010.07.18 02:58:00 - [16] Edited by: Jurona on 18/07/2010 02:58:37 Originally by: Currin Trading Originally by: Jurona Wow, overloading a node, reinforced or otherwise, causes it to crash? I DIDN'T KNOW! What a way to prove your point! The player caps are there to prevent overloading. Worst case scenario, we can redirect traffic as I mentioned in the OP. Again... you're proving WHAT, exactly? While you're at it, can you organize some event to prove that most Caldari ships are asymmetrical or something? I mean, while you're on the roll of proving obvious things.
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:01:00 - [17] Originally by: Corska Zrai 200 people * 5-15 Concord ships each... I don't care how reinforced Jita is, it will go down. I'm not planning to get myself wasted by Concord, and the only pew-pew is likely by people with war-decs. Unless you know something I don't?
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:02:00 - [18] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:03:50 Originally by: Currin Trading Don't forget to join the channel JITAFEST on Sunday, August 1st. Festivities begin at 20:00 Evetime. Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1: 1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System. Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
Racknor The Salty Dogs	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:06:00 - [19] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:03:50 Originally by: Currin Trading Don't forget to join the channel JITAFEST on Sunday, August 1st. Festivities begin at 20:00 Evetime. Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1: 1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System. Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. I thought this was a sandbox. Am I wrong?
Corska Zrai Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:09:00 - [20] Edited by: Corska Zrai on 18/07/2010 03:11:53 Originally by: Currin Trading Originally by: Corska Zrai 200 people * 5-15 Concord ships each... I don't care how reinforced Jita is, it will go down. I'm not planning to get myself wasted by Concord, and the only pew-pew is likely by people with war-decs. Unless you know something I don't? You obviously underestimate the trolling nature that comes out in people from events like this. The mere fact that this event is about Death by Lag, will make the trolls come out of the woodwork to fulfill your expectations of Death by Lag. It's inevitable. Sadly, no, I don't have any secret information. If I knew a group of Immortals that were planning some mass suicide gank attempts, in frigates, on this day, I wouldn't spoil their plans. Originally by: Racknor Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:03:50 Originally by: Currin Trading Don't forget to join the channel JITAFEST on Sunday, August 1st. Festivities begin at 20:00 Evetime. Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1: 1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System. Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. It is a sandbox. It just has barbed wire fences and sniper towers all along the borders. There are certain things a person can that have been labeled an exploit. When the exploits can not be fixed, the exploiters are punished for...exploiting the exploit. Exploit!

Elzon1	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:10:00 - [21] "Anyone up for a 1,000 ship conga line?" I am! Bring out your drones! Bring out your drones! Maybe this will show CCP that they need to focus on EVE more than trying to support a second game. By the way just how is DUST 514 going to be supported by EVE when planets aren't even worth fighting over? Since schematics are completely free and unlimited the manufacturing side of PI has become unprofitable... or at least it has very low profitability. Also I recieved 10 guidance systems as well as 10 superconductors from an angel haven, what the hell? The most profitable thing to do in PI is to setup pure extractor planets, no processing whatsoever it ruins your profitability down the line! The tyrannis trailer showed a battle with dreadnoughts! No one has yet to use a single dreadnought (or carrier for that matter) to defend or prevent others from using a planet. What changes are coming down the line that are worth people's time? What is going to make them fight for these planets? I rather have the promised treaty system for 0.0 than DUST 514 to be honest.
Jurona	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:10:00 - [22] Edited by: Jurona on 18/07/2010 03:11:55 Edited by: Jurona on 18/07/2010 03:11:34 Edited by: Jurona on 18/07/2010 03:10:02 Originally by: Racknor Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:03:50 Originally by: Currin Trading Don't forget to join the channel JITAFEST on Sunday, August 1st. Festivities begin at 20:00 Evetime. Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1: 1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System. Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. I thought this was a sandbox. Am I wrong? Nice try. RL laws trump internet spaceships; and this is malicious behavior that interferes with other peoples' gameplay and threatens the integrity of the server. Who knew? Ah, well, good way to get rid of all the complainants... just kick 'em all. /hopes for MASS BAN Originally by: Currin Trading Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1: 1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System. Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. I think this means you can't do things like cans full of bookmarks, smartbombing shuttles, too many mobile warp bubbles, or spawning Concord for the sole purpose of lag. As far as I'm aware there's no rule against too many people in a system, especially when there's a player cap to prevent that. Really? Archiving thread now, then, so CCP knows that this is intentional. Then if they say "oh, what an accident", I'll happily show them that this was engineered by someone.
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:10:00 - [23] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1: 1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System. Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. I think this means you can't do things like cans full of bookmarks, smartbombing shuttles, too many mobile warp bubbles, or spawning Concord for the sole purpose of lag. As far as I'm aware there's no rule against too many people in a system, especially when there's a player cap to prevent that.
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:10:00 - [24] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:03:50 Originally by: Currin Trading Don't forget to join the channel JITAFEST on Sunday, August 1st. Festivities begin at 20:00 Evetime. Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1: 1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System. Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. By the logic anyone engaging in a fleet fight should get banned
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:14:00 - [25] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:14:29 Originally by: Gladys Pank Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:03:50 Originally by: Currin Trading Don't forget to join the channel JITAFEST on Sunday, August 1st. Festivities begin at 20:00 Evetime. Just beware though. There is something called EULA, and if you read Chapter 7: Conduct, chapter A "Specifically Restricted Conduct ", part 1: 1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System. Just a warning though so your little come-together-party dont end up as the getting-banned-party. By the logic anyone engaging in a fleet fight should get banned Well, only if you can place a fleet fight in the categrory of "unreasonable large load on the system". Although maybe you could be banned if a huge alliance of 6000, all decided to invade 10 man corp system with the reasoning of "disproportionately large load of the system!" Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:18:00 - [26] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Well, only if you can place a fleet fight in the categrory of "unreasonable large load on the system". Although maybe you could be banned if a huge alliance of 6000, all decided to invade 10 man corp system with the reasoning of "disproportionately large load of the system!" I think now we're delving into the realm of speculation. If the event poses a problem, CCP will let us know between now and August 1st.
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:21:00 - [27] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 18/07/2010 03:23:18 Originally by: Currin Trading Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Well, only if you can place a fleet fight in the categrory of "unreasonable large load on the system". Although maybe you could be banned if a huge alliance of 6000, all decided to invade 10 man corp system with the reasoning of "disproportionately large load of the system!" I think now we're delving into the realm of speculation. If the event poses a problem, CCP will let us know between now and August 1st. That was not speculation. That was my fantasy running wild. Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:27:00 - [28] Originally by: Corska Zrai You obviously underestimate the trolling nature that comes out in people from events like this. The mere fact that this event is about Death by Lag, will make the trolls come out of the woodwork to fulfill your expectations of Death by Lag. It's inevitable. There's never been an event like this, so you don't have any point of reference, unless you just want to sling mud at nullsec residents. Were you against Hulkageddon by any chance?
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:29:00 - [29] 1. In the past 3 weeks more than 4 alliances in 0.0 have *****ed about inactive people, so the chances of them logging in just to lagg Jita are slim. 2. Lagging a system for a few hours (assuming you get people to join in your blob fest) will not do much unless you plan to live there with 5000+ people in a permo node crash. 3. Its been done before and failed mainly because of the above reasons 4. Strategically thinking lagging out Jita wont do much tbh, at best CCP will fight back rather than caving in and ermm click the magic [kill lagg] buttom, you will probably at best have a stable node or a laggy one nothing else will happen 5. Lets assume you crammed in 15000+ players in Jita permanently, what do you expect CCP to actually do, this 'awareness' is based on the assumption CCP have a shortcut way into fixing lagg 6. CCP have stated they are more focused on 'other' stuff rather than lagg, I really doubt they are going to change their schedule just because of some incoming 3 hour event 7. Unless you are an elite controlling sheep you wont get the numbers you want anyway so I suggest either posting on your main (hoping its a mega famous nerd) or sleep with a meganerd 8. Theres two ways to skin a cat and more than one way to get CCP to focus on the lag issues -- Recruiting now open!!
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:33:00 - [30] Originally by: Corska Zrai This is just an attempt to gather people for, possibly, the largest node crash in EVE history. Thousands will gather in and around Jita to mourn everyone's losses. Then either a single person, a small group, or the general public, will start to partake in lag inducing activities. Placing thousands of meaningless orders. Spawning godly amounts of Concord. I'm sure some enterprising soul will come up with something new. August 1st is the day CCP gives up and closes Jita. Reported for violating the TOS. Quote: You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules. This includes, but is not limited to, making inappropriate use of any public channels within the game and/or intentionally creating excessive latency (lag) by dumping cargo containers, corpses or other items in the game world. Quote: You may not engage in any activity that increases the difficulty and/or expense of CCP in maintaining the EVE Online client, server, web site or other services for the benefit and enjoyment of all its users. Asshat level 5 much? This is clearly a signature.

Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:33:00 - [31] Originally by: Musical Fist 1. In the past 3 weeks more than 4 alliances in 0.0 have *****ed about inactive people, so the chances of them logging in just to lagg Jita are slim. 2. Lagging a system for a few hours (assuming you get people to join in your blob fest) will not do much unless you plan to live there with 5000+ people in a permo node crash. 3. Its been done before and failed mainly because of the above reasons 4. Strategically thinking lagging out Jita wont do much tbh, at best CCP will fight back rather than caving in and ermm click the magic [kill lagg] buttom, you will probably at best have a stable node or a laggy one nothing else will happen 5. Lets assume you crammed in 15000+ players in Jita permanently, what do you expect CCP to actually do, this 'awareness' is based on the assumption CCP have a shortcut way into fixing lagg 6. CCP have stated they are more focused on 'other' stuff rather than lagg, I really doubt they are going to change their schedule just because of some incoming 3 hour event 7. Unless you are an elite controlling sheep you wont get the numbers you want anyway so I suggest either posting on your main (hoping its a mega famous nerd) or sleep with a meganerd 8. Theres two ways to skin a cat and more than one way to get CCP to focus on the lag issues If you think the purpose here is to create lag in Jita, then you've clearly missed the point of JITAFEST entirely.
Antihrist Pripravnik 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:43:00 - [32] Originally by: Currin Trading There's never been an event like this, so you don't have any point of reference,... Yes there was. Long, very long time ago. The results: server crashed and players got what they wanted (lag wasn't the problem back then, the problem was of a different kind). But that was a very different time, with different EULA and much less subscribed players (because of the low numbers every subscription back then was more important than today).
Corska Zrai Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:44:00 - [33] Originally by: Cipher Jones Reported for violating the TOS. Quote: You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules. This includes, but is not limited to, making inappropriate use of any public channels within the game and/or intentionally creating excessive latency (lag) by dumping cargo containers, corpses or other items in the game world. Quote: You may not engage in any activity that increases the difficulty and/or expense of CCP in maintaining the EVE Online client, server, web site or other services for the benefit and enjoyment of all its users. Asshat level 5 much? Reported for falsely reporting a TOS violation? I have never, and will probably never, do any of the things I have stated. Just because I point out the possibility of an activity does not mean I encourage the activity. I merely understand that other people are not as considerate. I sincerely hope that nothing majorly stupid happens, but I'm not going to bet on it.
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:45:00 - [34] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker That was not speculation. That was my fantasy running wild. Fair enough. But I think we can all agree that it's better to get an official ruling from CCP on this before we assume it's against any rule.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.18 03:54:00 - [35] Edited by: Cipher Jones on 18/07/2010 03:54:46 Originally by: Currin Trading Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker That was not speculation. That was my fantasy running wild. Fair enough. But I think we can all agree that it's better to get an official ruling from CCP on this before we assume it's against any rule. If you dont understand that intentionally lagging the server and attempting to crash the node without having CCP to explain the PLAIN ENGLISH of the TOS to you, your reading comprehension is literally < 7th grade. The falsely reporting crack was amazing trolling, simply amazing. This is clearly a signature.
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 04:00:00 - [36] Originally by: Cipher Jones If you dont understand that intentionally lagging the server and attempting to crash the node without having CCP to explain the PLAIN ENGLISH of the TOS to you, your reading comprehension is literally < 7th grade. Speaking of reading comprehension, you might want to read the OP again, since JITAFEST will neither lag the server nor crash any nodes. But if you are concerned about people breaking the rules, I suggest you focus on the highsec residents. They're running bots 23/7 and I hear no complaint from you about that. Nullsec residents, on the other hand, play the game as intended. Just a friendly suggestion.
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.07.18 04:00:00 - [37] Originally by: Currin Trading Originally by: Musical Fist 1. In the past 3 weeks more than 4 alliances in 0.0 have *****ed about inactive people, so the chances of them logging in just to lagg Jita are slim. 2. Lagging a system for a few hours (assuming you get people to join in your blob fest) will not do much unless you plan to live there with 5000+ people in a permo node crash. 3. Its been done before and failed mainly because of the above reasons 4. Strategically thinking lagging out Jita wont do much tbh, at best CCP will fight back rather than caving in and ermm click the magic [kill lagg] buttom, you will probably at best have a stable node or a laggy one nothing else will happen 5. Lets assume you crammed in 15000+ players in Jita permanently, what do you expect CCP to actually do, this 'awareness' is based on the assumption CCP have a shortcut way into fixing lagg 6. CCP have stated they are more focused on 'other' stuff rather than lagg, I really doubt they are going to change their schedule just because of some incoming 3 hour event 7. Unless you are an elite controlling sheep you wont get the numbers you want anyway so I suggest either posting on your main (hoping its a mega famous nerd) or sleep with a meganerd 8. Theres two ways to skin a cat and more than one way to get CCP to focus on the lag issues If you think the purpose here is to create lag in Jita, then you've clearly missed the point of JITAFEST entirely. Thats like having 1500+ people orbitting an asteroid and saying it is nothing todo with lagging the system, I am well aware of what you said and what will happen Ofc assuming you get the nmbers for this -- Recruiting now open!!
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 04:11:00 - [38] Originally by: Musical Fist Thats like having 1500+ people orbitting an asteroid and saying it is nothing todo with lagging the system, I am well aware of what you said and what will happen Ofc assuming you get the nmbers for this Actually Jita routinely runs up against the 1400 player cap without any problems. If you want to look at places where nodes might crash, check out nullsec sometime. If CCP wants to cancel they event they can, but I have a feeling they have more data about traffic limits in highsec than nervous people on the forums.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.18 04:11:00 - [39] Edited by: Cipher Jones on 18/07/2010 04:11:54 Quote: Speaking of reading comprehension, you might want to read the OP again, since JITAFEST will neither lag the server nor crash any nodes. you directly state that reinforcing of the nodes may be required by CCP, they directly state this is against the rules. Anyway troll on. You aren't fooling anyone. If you wanted to help the community you would get involved with the already sanctioned events. This is clearly a signature.
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 04:19:00 - [40] Originally by: Cipher Jones you directly state that reinforcing of the nodes may be required by CCP, they directly state this is against the rules. Anyway troll on. You aren't fooling anyone. If you wanted to help the community you would get involved with the already sanctioned events. You're literally wrong about everything. If you ever read CAOD, you would know that CCP directly requests that if people plan a large fleet battle, they can request CCP reinforce the node. So much for "against the rules". If you ever watched the Alliance Tournament, you would know that CCP created Jita-cam, Rens-cam and Amarr-cam specifically so players could all go into those systems and get on television (well, Eve television). And if you ever took part in the Eve community, you would know that player-initiated events occur all the time--and any event not canceled by CCP is an "officially sanctioned event". Perhaps you should broaden your horizons and experience the game as it was meant to be played? Up to you, though.

alittlebirdy	Posted - 2010.07.18 04:43:00 - [41] Like the idea, will join with all my alts! As for you idiots talking about making lag... jita is hard capped at 1400 (can't crash it unless you are CCP or try hard) and the OP already said the point is like a rally saying FIX LAG... Not seeing what is so hard to understand...
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 04:47:00 - [42] You know what, let's all put our cards on the table, shall we? You think I'm disgusted by highsec carebears. Yes, I am disgusted by many of them. But it's not because they waste all their time on the worst aspects of the game. That's their choice. And it's not even because of their macros and bots. What disgusts me about them is their hypocrisy. They whine endlessly for CCP to change the rules in their favor, and then those very same people break the rules with their macros and bots. You're worried about people breaking the rules in Jita? Take a look around on the average day. You'll see them mining happily away. They're all over highsec. When the nullsec crowd shows up for JITAFEST, they're assembling peaceably (or fighting war-decs violently). As far as I'm concerned one more JITAFEST participant from nullsec is one less highsec-hugging rule-breaker in Jita. I tell you what. I'm going to invite you skeptics in this thread personally to go to Jita on August 1st at 20:00 Evetime and take a look at nullsec residents doing their thing in JITAFEST. See these people for yourself. You will see that these people are not criminals, or racists, or troublemakers of any kind. They're law-abiding citizens who have legitimate concerns about the direction Eve is headed. Who knows? Maybe you'll end up joining them.
Jurona	Posted - 2010.07.18 05:10:00 - [43] Originally by: Currin Trading You know what, let's all put our cards on the table, shall we? You think I'm disgusted by highsec carebears. Yes, I am disgusted by many of them. But it's not because they waste all their time on the worst aspects of the game. That's their choice. And it's not even because of their macros and bots. What disgusts me about them is their hypocrisy. They whine endlessly for CCP to change the rules in their favor, and then those very same people break the rules with their macros and bots. You're worried about people breaking the rules in Jita? Take a look around on the average day. You'll see them mining happily away. They're all over highsec. When the nullsec crowd shows up for JITAFEST, they're assembling peaceably (or fighting war-decs violently). As far as I'm concerned one more JITAFEST participant from nullsec is one less highsec-hugging rule-breaker in Jita. I tell you what. I'm going to invite you skeptics in this thread personally to go to Jita on August 1st at 20:00 Evetime and take a look at nullsec residents doing their thing in JITAFEST. See these people for yourself. You will see that these people are not criminals, or racists, or troublemakers of any kind. They're law-abiding citizens who have legitimate concerns about the direction Eve is headed. Who knows? Maybe you'll end up joining them. wat.jpg
Jesslyn Daggererux Non-Aligned Movement Biologic License Application	Posted - 2010.07.18 05:36:00 - [44] Originally by: Jurona Originally by: Currin Trading You know what, let's all put our cards on the table, shall we? You think I'm disgusted by highsec carebears. Yes, I am disgusted by many of them. But it's not because they waste all their time on the worst aspects of the game. That's their choice. And it's not even because of their macros and bots. What disgusts me about them is their hypocrisy. They whine endlessly for CCP to change the rules in their favor, and then those very same people break the rules with their macros and bots. You're worried about people breaking the rules in Jita? Take a look around on the average day. You'll see them mining happily away. They're all over highsec. When the nullsec crowd shows up for JITAFEST, they're assembling peaceably (or fighting war-decs violently). As far as I'm concerned one more JITAFEST participant from nullsec is one less highsec-hugging rule-breaker in Jita. I tell you what. I'm going to invite you skeptics in this thread personally to go to Jita on August 1st at 20:00 Evetime and take a look at nullsec residents doing their thing in JITAFEST. See these people for yourself. You will see that these people are not criminals, or racists, or troublemakers of any kind. They're law-abiding citizens who have legitimate concerns about the direction Eve is headed. Who knows? Maybe you'll end up joining them. wat.jpg that. for the first paragraph i was sure he posted in the wrong thread. Originally by: CCP Fallout Hola, esta forum es ingles solamente. This forum is English only. Welcome to my lock. Now please, zip your pants. I don't need a show.
DJ Obsidian New Eden Technical Institutes	Posted - 2010.07.18 06:23:00 - [45] Dear op please go read teh following because you are obviously a dumbass. Original devblog in feb stating a dedicated team to finding lag and killing it. Forum post offering a funny reward if we could get the real people to help test fixes.why? cause too many whiners wont actually put forth "effort" to help their game. evidently whining is better than helping. Finally CCP statements stating what fixes they tried and what they are working on. So before you spout crap like Quote: As CSM has learned, there there will be no fix for lag in the near future and CCP considers the technical situation to be "in a better state than it has ever been". Petitions will not even be considered if they involve nullsec fleet battles. The outcome of all contests between the powers of Eve, no matter how many titans they field or how clever their plans, will be determined by lag and node crashes--and those determinations are final. please do yourself a favor and do your research, and STFU
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 08:36:00 - [46] Originally by: DJ Obsidian please do yourself a favor and do your research, and STFU Yes, we're all aware they have been looking into the issue for the last seven months. But unless you know something the rest of us don't, severe fleet lag is going to be around for awhile. Perhaps if lag is not fixed by August you will consider attending JITAFEST? It wouldn't hurt to learn the facts.
Aelius Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises	Posted - 2010.07.18 09:41:00 - [47] I have mix feelings on this. While i understand many players frustrations about lag i don't think that trying to crash EVE will fix anything. EVE players voice must be heard by CCP but not like this. _________________________ CSM Candidate for 2011 (soon a pretty photoshop sig) _________________________
Angie McFish	Posted - 2010.07.18 10:51:00 - [48] Originally by: Currin Trading Anyone up for a 1,000 ship conga line? Could someone supply people with shuttles? Maybe an Orca pilot could bring a few and people could warp to him in their pods and grab one? SUPPORTED

CCP Navigator C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.18 10:56:00 - [49] Moved from General Discussion to Events & Gatherings. Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online

Jade Kitana	Posted - 2010.07.18 10:56:00 - [50] Edited by: Jade Kitana on 18/07/2010 10:56:39 I think the average age of those posting in these forums has gone down a bit.

dischordia Gallente wiggle Tech.	Posted - 2010.07.18 11:04:00 - [51] Originally by: Jade Kitana Edited by: Jade Kitana on 18/07/2010 10:56:39 I think the average age of those posting in these forums has gone down a bit. Im guessing its about the 2nd trimester now, its deffo somewhere in the in the fetal stage
Emma Royd Caldari Maddled Gommerils	Posted - 2010.07.18 11:19:00 - [52] Originally by: DJ Obsidian Forum post offering a funny reward if we could get the real people to help test fixes.why? cause too many whiners wont actually put forth "effort" to help their game. evidently whining is better than helping. Maybe if they ran the tests at sensible times it would be better, 20:00 utc on a Thursday? ffs, fine for the students who don't have to get up for work on friday, but apart from that there's a huge amount of players that can't attend this kind of time. The last time I tried to attend one of the mass tests, it was a Saturday, similar times, and it never got off the ground, or if it did, it was way over time, yes I'm a sad ar$e who has a life outside of eve, I'm up for work at 05:00 uk time, so computers get switched off at 22:00, I needs my beauty sleep I appreciate there is no one time that is suitable for everybody, but have a thought before slagging off people who can't attend :) +_+ Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity
Bluefix Gnu Terror Corps	Posted - 2010.07.18 11:57:00 - [53] This is stupid. Lag is actually one of the few things that are being fixed and not among the numerous things which will be untouched for 18 months.
Stitcher Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.07.18 15:12:00 - [54] you know, when you try this and find that it works perfectly because the server really IS "in a better state than it has ever been"... I'm going to laugh at you. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Currin Trading Nullsec Community Organizers	Posted - 2010.07.18 18:48:00 - [55] Originally by: Aelius I have mix feelings on this. While i understand many players frustrations about lag i don't think that trying to crash EVE will fix anything. EVE players voice must be heard by CCP but not like this. Aelius, I couldn't agree more. Trying to crash Eve definitely will not fix anything. Fortunately, JITAFEST will do no such thing. Indeed, it is deliberately being hosted in the place least likely to crash. As you can see, CCP has moved this thread into the Events & Gatherings forum rather than locking it, because it is an approved event. There's no need to worry about the nervous forum posters with CCP on our side!
Svetdana	Posted - 2010.07.19 02:18:00 - [56] Perhaps CCP could embrace this idea as a challenge, beef up jita, and remove the cap. I am sure they will get more people than they ever could on the test server for load testing events =)
Terrigal	Posted - 2010.07.19 07:03:00 - [57] Gawd damit guys its an EVE picnic just bring your blankets, vino, & your favorite food.
NewGit Caldari Rusty Industries	Posted - 2010.07.19 07:06:00 - [58] Edited by: NewGit on 19/07/2010 07:12:52 Originally by: Currin Trading But if you are concerned about people breaking the rules, I suggest you focus on the highsec residents. They're running bots 23/7 and I hear no complaint from you about that. Nullsec residents, on the other hand, play the game as intended. Just a friendly suggestion. I call Bull on that. I've seen plenty of macro ratters in null sec, and cloakers that sit afk 23/7 but know instantly when a target comes within range. I highly doubt they sit there with their eyes glued to the screen for days on end, with only an hour (or less) break each day. It's not likely there are as many bots/macros in null as in hi sec, but then there aren't as many players there either. --------------* If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, mine it.
Terrigal	Posted - 2010.07.19 07:10:00 - [59] Originally by: NewGit Originally by: Currin Trading But if you are concerned about people breaking the rules, I suggest you focus on the highsec residents. They're running bots 23/7 and I hear no complaint from you about that. Nullsec residents, on the other hand, play the game as intended. Just a friendly suggestion. I call Bull on that. I've seen plenty of macro ratters in null sec, and cloakers that sit afk 23/7 but know instantly when a target comes within range. I highly doubt they sit there with their eyes glued to the screen for days on end, with only a 1 hours (or less) break each day. It's not likely there are as many bots/macros in null as in hi sec, but then there aren't as many players there either. Yes we know and we've grown tired of reporting them in 0.0 as nothings ever done. Its just another examle of CCP not listenig to its customers
Sol Mahon Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.07.19 10:51:00 - [60] Originally by: Currin Trading You know what, let's all put our cards on the table, shall we? You think I'm disgusted by highsec carebears. Yes, I am disgusted by many of them. But it's not because they waste all their time on the worst aspects of the game. That's their choice. And it's not even because of their macros and bots. What disgusts me about them is their hypocrisy. They whine endlessly for CCP to change the rules in their favor, and then those very same people break the rules with their macros and bots. Your generalizations are wrong, It's no more correct to say all high sec dwellers are botters and macro's playing the "worst aspects of the game", than it is to say all low sec dwellers are "criminals, or racists, or troublemakers" I find your views on the divide of the EVE playerbase ironic, and rather shortsighted. As far as the event goes though, considering all the effort CCP are making to raise awareness for mass tests on Singularity, they should support this event, and to impose restrictions, distribute bans, etc for having the playerbase do a mass test for them would be moronic, and only serve to disencourage people from participating in CCP organized mass tests in the future.



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