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Nalesh The Children Of Gallifrey Snatch Victory	Posted - 2010.07.26 11:49:00 - [61] Originally by: Makthrraaa Confirming that Waffles are the staple diet of New Eden. And toast, totally toast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avU5onrWfYo --- Originally by: Terminal Insanity Originally by: CCP Soundwave I am literally the internet Does that mean i'm shooting my packets into your inviting tubes?
Iam Widdershins Project Nemesis The 0rphanage	Posted - 2010.07.26 13:58:00 - [62] Originally by: Tortugan If this guy had 6, maybe he would've lived D: I lol'd. Originally by: Frug I'm sure at some point in the 5 minutes it must have taken to eat through that, he noticed some kind of siren going off or steam filled pipe exploding out of his console. Four and a half minutes, sir. (It could've been half the time if I'd had ANY other ammo loaded. Rage.) Originally by: Ja'Dur Deathwalker but oh loook, my point still stands.... 0.5 system... You dont go in low sec cause you would be handed your pod.... We checked there several times, but it's lowsec, and if you are smart (like most of the lowsec <doom> pilots), you undock less. And if you're not smart, you're probably dead. If they'd been more active, we would have been ALL OVER that. Being like 25 jumps away from our base of operations had an effect, too, I admit. Originally by: Ja'Dur Deathwalker and if you dec me again i will just jump to another character (i have around 9)... If I had a million isk for every time I've heard that, I'd buy...well, ok, maybe a jaguar or something. Fit a new excuse, bro.
Jasen Too Instant Annihilation Everto Rex Regis	Posted - 2010.07.26 16:15:00 - [63] Can I get some mo-fuggin' <3 in this thread?
biggestboobies	Posted - 2010.07.26 18:21:00 - [64] Why is it that when someone says something that someone else diasagrees with it is automatically a "troll?" And we know how much the 0rphanage hates trolls and their non-trolling policy. Now are they Privateers? No. But the only thing that does not make them Privateers is Project Nemesis. As soon as PRONS leave the suckage will magnify twenty fold. And this just in: Viktor Vegas in a late night rant on how GREAT he and MOFO are ripped the Pit Boss a new one. But of course this was done behind the alliance leader's back. Is this alliance on the verge of a REPO like meltdown? We shall see.
CyberRaver Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers	Posted - 2010.07.26 18:35:00 - [65] Originally by: biggestboobies Why is it that when someone says something that someone else diasagrees with it is automatically a "troll?" And we know how much the 0rphanage hates trolls and their non-trolling policy. Now are they Privateers? No. But the only thing that does not make them Privateers is Project Nemesis. As soon as PRONS leave the suckage will magnify twenty fold. And this just in: Viktor Vegas in a late night rant on how GREAT he and MOFO are ripped the Pit Boss a new one. But of course this was done behind the alliance leader's back. Is this alliance on the verge of a REPO like meltdown? We shall see. now you are a troll, if you knew vik at all you would know he would tell you to your face and not do it behind your back Good try though
hellsknights Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage	Posted - 2010.07.26 18:45:00 - [66] Originally by: biggestboobies Why is it that when someone says something that someone else diasagrees with it is automatically a "troll?" And we know how much the 0rphanage hates trolls and their non-trolling policy. Now are they Privateers? No. But the only thing that does not make them Privateers is Project Nemesis. As soon as PRONS leave the suckage will magnify twenty fold. And this just in: Viktor Vegas in a late night rant on how GREAT he and MOFO are ripped the Pit Boss a new one. But of course this was done behind the alliance leader's back. Is this alliance on the verge of a REPO like meltdown? We shall see. Wow use your main.......or suck my left nuttttttt since the right one is taken!!!
EagleNoFace	Posted - 2010.07.26 18:45:00 - [67] biggestboobies is a gd lier ive known vik for 20 years that is not his style, boobies is an idiot just tryin to cause trouble. blow it out your arse
Sydious Amarr Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage	Posted - 2010.07.26 20:13:00 - [68] Originally by: Nalesh Originally by: Makthrraaa Confirming that Waffles are the staple diet of New Eden. And toast, totally toast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avU5onrWfYo I came expecting breakfast, didn't leave disappointed.
Ten Tron Project Nemesis	Posted - 2010.07.26 20:42:00 - [69] Edited by: Ten Tron on 26/07/2010 20:44:30 Confirming that I only log on to lose ships in lol ways. Confirming there is a direct correlation between me losing ships and me not logging in for a week. Confirming that com chatter is better than actually logging into EvE. Confirming that "we aren't our version of your mercenaries". I can neither confirm or deny that I now lurk on forums, play MW2, and watch scat videos.
Dark 0verlord Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage	Posted - 2010.07.26 21:08:00 - [70] Originally by: The PitBoss Originally by: biggestboobies ... more weekly tears ... Who cares ... Post with your main and earn some credibility ... otherwise STFU This
Bryan Havoc Project Nemesis The 0rphanage	Posted - 2010.07.26 21:20:00 - [71] Originally by: Ten Tron Edited by: Ten Tron on 26/07/2010 20:44:30 Confirming that I only log on to lose ships in lol ways. Confirming there is a direct correlation between me losing ships and me not logging in for a week. Confirming that com chatter is better than actually logging into EvE. Confirming that "we aren't our version of your mercenaries". I can neither confirm or deny that I now lurk on forums, play MW2, and watch scat videos. You had me at hello. Also, you were post 69, which made me giggle... lol 69
biggestboobies	Posted - 2010.07.26 21:41:00 - [72] Edited by: biggestboobies on 26/07/2010 21:41:44 This says everything... A classic of sensorbooster whorage gone awry. Maybe drop some SB and add a tank? http://ad0pt.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1517915 Your isk is better spent on Noir. or Everto Rex Regis. And if you avoid the Mad/Nia gate your pretty much safe from most of the 0rphanage. However, as I have said there are some gems of pilots there. Avoid Aussie time zone when Izzy Epic is on. F*$%ing awesome pilot. And he thinks! And using my main would mean getting kicked from MBALM, so I prefer to stay in cognito. Plus, I could not speak my mind the way I am now.
Bryan Havoc Project Nemesis The 0rphanage	Posted - 2010.07.26 22:01:00 - [73] Originally by: biggestboobies Edited by: biggestboobies on 26/07/2010 21:41:44 And if you avoid the Mad/Nia gate your pretty much safe from most of the 0rphanage. To be fair... a couple of 0rphanage gangs with representation from many corps in the alliance destroyed a Sev3rence gang and a Shadow of xXDeathXx gang earlier today... and it wasn't in Mad/Nia
CyberRaver Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers	Posted - 2010.07.26 22:04:00 - [74] We hunt we kill its our job The numbers dont lie
Bionic Wolf	Posted - 2010.07.26 22:30:00 - [75] Originally by: biggestboobies Edited by: biggestboobies on 26/07/2010 21:41:44 And using my main would mean getting kicked from MBALM, so I prefer to stay in cognito. Plus, I could not speak my mind the way I am now. Worried about being kicked out of a corp / alliance you don't rate.... nice try.
Rico Felix	Posted - 2010.07.26 22:40:00 - [76] Hey biggestboobies, appreciate the compliment. Honestly tho, you are wrong in a few aspects. Mbalm does have an open door policy, but our efficiency is currently higher than the alliance. Project Nemesis is superb for sure, but you are overlooking plenty of other excellent pilots, and the contributions of the other corps. We have ex-Mercenary Forces, some of the better ex-TFS pilots. Plenty of ex-0.0 people who tired of the polotics and crap and just wanna have fun. All you have to do is hit corp stats on the alliance kb and it will show you some of the things you are saying are off base. Also, The Pitboss rocks, the alliance could survive any pilot or corp leaving except maybe him. You have not seen him in action apparently. He is someone who has done it all 0.0, low sec, and empire wars. Great ecm pilot as well. He has probably saved me 100+ stilettos. Viktor Vegas has balls of steel by the way! 30 man enemy bs gang and his first words are usually "I will be bait!" When talking with clients, we never claim to be the surgical assault force a Noir. or smaller more organized merc corps are. It is not like we lie. Our pilots spend every waking moment online looking for stuff to shoot at. If that mindset gets some baited and ganked, It is better than them being a buncha cloaking/logoffsking panzies. 99% of Eve players spend every second trying to avoid PVP unless they are in fleets of 500 people. The "real" pvp so many of you talk of out in 0.0, where you target and activate modules on as many targets as possible so you are on as many kills as possible before you are primaried. No thanks. Also disagree with The Orphanage being so closely associated with Privateers. In Privateers corps did not work together. Most actually hated each other. In Privateers I had to worry about alliance members as much as i did war targets. It was like being in an alliance with reds. People stole loot, didnt communicate, used peoples intel to leapfrog them and not involve them. Offered war targets isk to kill fellow privateers. It was ridiculous. The Orphanage has a whole different culture really. Sharing of intel, donating loot and isk for more wars. Corps working together. The complete opposite of Privateers. The Orphanage is sustaining 10-14 wars a week. That is billions and billions. That does not happen without a team mentality. As far as Snatch Victory handing us our asses, not sure around 50% efficiency is exactly that. Mbalms vs them is 68 by the way, not bad for a buncha noobs.. Solar Revenue Service decced us after leaving alliance and retracted war 3 days early after gettin smoked. So your example there is also a bit perplexing. If you are a member, keep in mind we are not even 2 months old yet as an alliance, bound to have some growing pains, and yes, not quite where we want to be yet. Honestly tho it has been a lot of fun and this is a game yo. Games are for having fun. Hopefully people will learn a bit from the Snatch war. Speaking of snatch, one of their members were glad we decced em cause they were bored and knew we would fight. Even been asked to make the war mutual. You dont gotta hate everyone you fight, or say this sucks, that sucks, you suck, he sucks, blah blah blah. Unless you are a privateer, then you hate blues, and yourself even.
biggestboobies	Posted - 2010.07.26 23:05:00 - [77] Thanks for the thoughtful reply. However, this does not erase the fact that the 0rphanage should be smoking ALL of its opponents given its size. And in recent weeks, a ridiculous policy chilling speech has gone into effect. Although PB means well by his "can't we all just get along" policy, many members have been infuriated by not being able to speak their minds and being targeted by other members as so-called "racists." Should member "A", who has a gripe with member "B", be able to call the other a racist and get him or her sanctioned? This has disgusted me in the past few weeks in addition to the other issues. Originally by: Rico Felix Hey biggestboobies, appreciate the compliment. Honestly tho, you are wrong in a few aspects. Mbalm does have an open door policy, but our efficiency is currently higher than the alliance. Project Nemesis is superb for sure, but you are overlooking plenty of other excellent pilots, and the contributions of the other corps. We have ex-Mercenary Forces, some of the better ex-TFS pilots. Plenty of ex-0.0 people who tired of the polotics and crap and just wanna have fun. All you have to do is hit corp stats on the alliance kb and it will show you some of the things you are saying are off base. Also, The Pitboss rocks, the alliance could survive any pilot or corp leaving except maybe him. You have not seen him in action apparently. He is someone who has done it all 0.0, low sec, and empire wars. Great ecm pilot as well. He has probably saved me 100+ stilettos. Viktor Vegas has balls of steel by the way! 30 man enemy bs gang and his first words are usually "I will be bait!" When talking with clients, we never claim to be the surgical assault force a Noir. or smaller more organized merc corps are. It is not like we lie. Our pilots spend every waking moment online looking for stuff to shoot at. If that mindset gets some baited and ganked, It is better than them being a buncha cloaking/logoffsking panzies. 99% of Eve players spend every second trying to avoid PVP unless they are in fleets of 500 people. The "real" pvp so many of you talk of out in 0.0, where you target and activate modules on as many targets as possible so you are on as many kills as possible before you are primaried. No thanks. Also disagree with The Orphanage being so closely associated with Privateers. In Privateers corps did not work together. Most actually hated each other. In Privateers I had to worry about alliance members as much as i did war targets. It was like being in an alliance with reds. People stole loot, didnt communicate, used peoples intel to leapfrog them and not involve them. Offered war targets isk to kill fellow privateers. It was ridiculous. The Orphanage has a whole different culture really. Sharing of intel, donating loot and isk for more wars. Corps working together. The complete opposite of Privateers. The Orphanage is sustaining 10-14 wars a week. That is billions and billions. That does not happen without a team mentality. As far as Snatch Victory handing us our asses, not sure around 50% efficiency is exactly that. Mbalms vs them is 68 by the way, not bad for a buncha noobs.. Solar Revenue Service decced us after leaving alliance and retracted war 3 days early after gettin smoked. So your example there is also a bit perplexing. If you are a member, keep in mind we are not even 2 months old yet as an alliance, bound to have some growing pains, and yes, not quite where we want to be yet. Honestly tho it has been a lot of fun and this is a game yo. Games are for having fun. Hopefully people will learn a bit from the Snatch war. Speaking of snatch, one of their members were glad we decced em cause they were bored and knew we would fight. Even been asked to make the war mutual. You dont gotta hate everyone you fight, or say this sucks, that sucks, you suck, he sucks, blah blah blah. Unless you are a privateer, then you hate blues, and yourself even.
jimmyjam Gallente Sinner Among Saints Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2010.07.26 23:13:00 - [78] Did anyone count how many times the word snatch was used in the op.I have a rageing semi right now that needs a wet worm hole. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Adida
kiki mo	Posted - 2010.07.26 23:33:00 - [79] Quote: Viktor Vegas has balls of steel that made me think of Duke Nukem balls balls balls balls balls of steel
Teff nogero Project Nemesis The 0rphanage	Posted - 2010.07.27 03:49:00 - [80] lets change the topic to how can we get better...instead of how much we suck. i am sad right now. i just want to win.
Pentinor Corp 1 Allstars Soldiers of Solitude	Posted - 2010.07.27 06:10:00 - [81] Originally by: Teff nogero lets change the topic to how can we get better... Kicking you would be a start <3 Signature locked. Please file a petition to discuss the matter - CCP Fallout
Nexo92 Method of Destruction The 0rphanage	Posted - 2010.07.27 07:11:00 - [82] Originally by: jimmyjam Did anyone count how many times the word snatch was used in the op.I have a rageing semi right now that needs a wet worm hole. I lol'd
Teff nogero Project Nemesis The 0rphanage	Posted - 2010.07.27 09:23:00 - [83] Originally by: Pentinor Originally by: Teff nogero lets change the topic to how can we get better... Kicking you would be a start <3 i lol'd. tbh you couldnt say anything to make me mad. you killed oto. you are godlike to me tbh.
IZZY EPIC	Posted - 2010.07.27 09:32:00 - [84] Originally by: biggestboobies Edited by: biggestboobies on 26/07/2010 21:41:44 However, as I have said there are some gems of pilots there. Avoid Aussie time zone when Izzy Epic is on. F*$%ing awesome pilot. And he thinks! And using my main would mean getting kicked from MBALM, so I prefer to stay in cognito. Plus, I could not speak my mind the way I am now. Awwwww im all warm and fuzzy inside now! thanks for the commpliment, Mysteriuos Big Booby person!
Makthrraaa Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage	Posted - 2010.07.27 10:09:00 - [85] Posting in a thread confirming I suck at PVP. Bai!
SnootySneerMan	Posted - 2010.07.27 14:52:00 - [86] Ad0pt seems to be doing pretty good work to me... Snatch is a tight group that works effectively together, something that is harder for very large groups to achieve. I should know I used to fly with them ;) SMS
Loqiel Legio Fortunae Everto Rex Regis	Posted - 2010.07.27 17:19:00 - [87] As a young boy, I grew up not far from 56th and Market street, not far from Upper Darby. I didn't play many video games; instead I enjoyed a good bit of activity outdoors, relaxing and enjoying the fresh air and all that nature could provide. I used to play a bit of basketball after school as well; a couple miscreants were always around the area however, and one day they finally approached me. I would have none of it however, and so I engaged them in an "animated discussion". I went home after it, and my mother was rather perturbed. She said I needed to get out of the neighborhood, and so I was going to go to live with her sister and her husband. And that's how I became the prince of Bel-Air.
Hue Janus	Posted - 2010.07.27 18:01:00 - [88] It is a very interesting war, looks like Snatch just edges it at the moment which is impressive given their vastly smaller numbers. It looks like a fight between numbers on 0rphans side and player quality on Snatch side.
biggestboobies	Posted - 2010.07.27 18:27:00 - [89] Agreed. Orphanage should be curb stomping these guys into dust. Instead, an alliance 1/5th its size is making it look foolish. If you want to move beyond Privateers II you have to be able to smash such numerically inferior opponents. This speaks to crappy leadership all around. Oh, um, and noobs staying afk in major systems makes it hard to hunt emk! It also makes it hard to play in such an alliance with a paranoid alliance leader sanctioning people for their speech all the time. Get out of your politically correct world and let people shoot the poop as they should be able to. And use better judgement as to what is hateful speech and what is joking around. Originally by: Hue Janus It is a very interesting war, looks like Snatch just edges it at the moment which is impressive given their vastly smaller numbers. It looks like a fight between numbers on 0rphans side and player quality on Snatch side.
Frug Omega Wing	Posted - 2010.07.27 18:50:00 - [90] Originally by: biggestboobies This says everything... A classic of sensorbooster whorage gone awry. Maybe drop some SB and add a tank? http://ad0pt.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1517915 This is how privs have always operated, and you seem to fail to realize how many things die to ships like that. Basically you're hurf blurfing and pointing out that a glass sebo cannon is vulnerable. Why yes. It is. Congrats for noticing. Originally by: biggestboobies Your isk is better spent on Noir. or Everto Rex Regis. Noir is in lowsec/0.0 now afaik and getting them to hunt someone in empire may be too costly and ineffective. If you think everto rex would do any better than orph, you're absolutely ****ed. Everto were afraid to fight us and afraid to leave jita within 3 days of our war. Actually scratch my above conditional, you're ****ed either way. I don't even like orphanage, and i have a grudge with prons from our repo days. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor

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