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Ash Tuesday Caldari Eagle Nuclear LLC	Posted - 2010.07.26 22:44:00 - [1] A while back, Rooks and Kings bragged about taking out an industrial and pve focused corporation. They laughed at all the ships being self destructed while conveniently failing to attack either of the two main powers in worm hole space. CCRES and Aperture Harmonics continue to operate under the radar, while quietly taking out all opposition in the depths of wormhole space. A week or so ago, they removed the Pandemic Legion presence from a C6. Not only did they remove it, but they bragged about their isk by not using a single T1 ship to do it. Every ship attacking Pandemic Legion was a faction BS, capital, or T3. If you look at both kill boards, rarely will you ever see members of either corp pvping in normal pvp ships. Instead, they pvp almost purely in T3s and faction BS. A recent engagement between the two was a 17 vs 13 fight that resulted in 6 T3s killed as well as some other t2 ships. Neither side used a single T1 BC and only 1 T1 BS was present. One CCRES member even ridiculed the pilot of the one t3 they killed for NOT faction fitting it out the wazoo. How can they afford to fight with ships that are this expensive? The reason is simple, the isk they make in deep wormhole space makes T3 and faction BS losses seem trivial. A single site will usually provide 500kk to 1000kk isk and corps of their size can run a dozen or two in a day if they set their mind to it. Even assuming a more modest rate of 6 sites a day, they would still be paying out 30 bil per week to their members and that's not even counting the enormous earning potential of ladar sites. So, what will the members of eve do? Will they continue to allow Aperture Harmonics and CCRES to terrorize the citizens of wormhole space? Will they let these two superpowers of wormhole space monopolize the earnings available? Or will they rise up, remove those two corporations, and claim the vast wealth of deep wormhole space for their own?
Garst Tyrell Amarr No.Mercy	Posted - 2010.07.26 22:52:00 - [2] this one time, I went into a wh and I was hugging the directional scanner, but aperature didnt show up. true story I assume they were watching me in cloaked recons but liked the cut of my jib and permitted me to live. I thank them for their benevolence.
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.07.26 22:53:00 - [3] 1. NYPA 2. How are T3 and faction battleships NOT regular PVP ships? 3. AHARM at least are a semi-roleplay wormhole corporation and as such tend to use T3 ships since they work very well for wormhole operations. 4. Wormholes are just as territorial as 0.0 space so it's hardly newsworthy. 5. U mad? Signature locked for inappropriate image. Zymurgist
Nynjato Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.07.26 22:54:00 - [4] I went into a C5 yesterday that didn't have anyone in it, have Aperture Harmonics mastered the sleeper tech T3 cloaky pos?
Jack Miton Caldari Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.27 00:14:00 - [5] Edited by: Jack Miton on 27/07/2010 00:15:39 Come visit us sometimes and we'll be happy to run you through the basics of being in our space :) What exactly do you mean by CCRES and AHARM operating under the radar? Maybe your radar, but you will find we are well known by most WH corps.
Seamus McLove Caldari Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2010.07.27 02:26:00 - [6] Originally by: Gladys Pank 1. NYPA 2. How are T3 and faction battleships NOT regular PVP ships? 3. AHARM at least are a semi-roleplay wormhole corporation and as such tend to use T3 ships since they work very well for wormhole operations. 4. Wormholes are just as territorial as 0.0 space so it's hardly newsworthy. 5. U mad? Just a note on 3 to clarify a **** thread. Our old ceo was a roleplayer, we have no roleplayers in cor as far as im aware, we have nothing against RP and RPers are welcome to corp, but atm were pretty much free of it. Also confirming bitter rooks and kings victim is bitter.
Domania Gallente Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2010.07.27 02:31:00 - [7] I am in your wormhole, monopolizing your profits.
TheStarman Caldari Blue Republic	Posted - 2010.07.27 03:08:00 - [8] I don't see how CCRES could manage that when they couldn't manage to get more than 20 people online in the US Timezone for most of the time I was in it, and whine over who ****ed with the bookmark can today. But everything else about the corp is spot on. They do what they do well. The only reason I'm not in it is because I'm not going to spin ships in WH space when I can do it in high sec.
Kassa Daito Caldari Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.27 06:20:00 - [9] Originally by: TheStarman I don't see how CCRES could manage that when they couldn't manage to get more than 20 people online in the US Timezone for most of the time I was in it, and whine over who **ed with the bookmark can today. Throw a little blood in the water (figuratively) and they come running. Even a single covetor will bring out 20 T3 pilots from the woodwork fighting over who actually gets to fire their guns before it pops. Originally by:** Ash Tuesday Not only did they remove it, but they bragged about their isk by not using a single T1 ship to do it. Every ship attacking Pandemic Legion was a faction BS, capital, or T3. If you look at both kill boards, rarely will you ever see members of either corp pvping in normal pvp ships. Instead, they pvp almost purely in T3s and faction BS. A recent engagement between the two was a 17 vs 13 fight that resulted in 6 T3s killed as well as some other t2 ships. Neither side used a single T1 BC and only 1 T1 BS was present. One CCRES member even ridiculed the pilot of the one t3 they killed for NOT faction fitting it out the wazoo. To be fair, if you have a 500-600 mil hull then faction fitting it should be a given. Killing a T3 without moderate pimp is like killing a Vindicator or Nightmare that is T2 fit. You should see the comments when we kill one with meta-4 guns or tank mods ** Disclaimer: Author sometimes spell checks but is not responsible for sins of commission, omission, emission, transmission, or submission. Flowers, bricks, or any other form of feedback appreciated
Poena Loveless Minmatar Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.27 10:14:00 - [10] So a Freki would be out of the question?

Sala Kyss Gallente Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.07.27 10:25:00 - [11] countdown to widot thread in 3....2....1...
Scylara Gallente Vodka Inc	Posted - 2010.07.27 10:44:00 - [12] Originally by: Ash Tuesday A while back, Rooks and Kings bragged about taking out an industrial and pve focused corporation. They laughed at all the ships being self destructed while conveniently failing to attack either of the two main powers in worm hole space. CCRES and Aperture Harmonics continue to operate under the radar, while quietly taking out all opposition in the depths of wormhole space. A week or so ago, they removed the Pandemic Legion presence from a C6. Not only did they remove it, but they bragged about their isk by not using a single T1 ship to do it. Every ship attacking Pandemic Legion was a faction BS, capital, or T3. If you look at both kill boards, rarely will you ever see members of either corp pvping in normal pvp ships. Instead, they pvp almost purely in T3s and faction BS. A recent engagement between the two was a 17 vs 13 fight that resulted in 6 T3s killed as well as some other t2 ships. Neither side used a single T1 BC and only 1 T1 BS was present. One CCRES member even ridiculed the pilot of the one t3 they killed for NOT faction fitting it out the wazoo. How can they afford to fight with ships that are this expensive? The reason is simple, the isk they make in deep wormhole space makes T3 and faction BS losses seem trivial. A single site will usually provide 500kk to 1000kk isk and corps of their size can run a dozen or two in a day if they set their mind to it. Even assuming a more modest rate of 6 sites a day, they would still be paying out 30 bil per week to their members and that's not even counting the enormous earning potential of ladar sites. So, what will the members of eve do? Will they continue to allow Aperture Harmonics and CCRES to terrorize the citizens of wormhole space? Will they let these two superpowers of wormhole space monopolize the earnings available? Or will they rise up, remove those two corporations, and claim the vast wealth of deep wormhole space for their own? I think most of us has realised that this is a "Alliance and Corporation Recruitment Center" thing, i mean you are from Aperture telling us how good Aperture are. You cant write in subject that "dont want you to know" and after that say "members must earn 30 bil a week.
xo3e Amarr The Deliberate Forces WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.07.27 11:00:00 - [13] recruitment is still on? iv infiltrated AH with few of my alts, and soon will try to stole as many t3 and capitals as i can (too bad my alts dont have skills for faction BSs). i luv u all WH guiz/ maim, kill, burn!
Lord Vega Gallente TAU CETI CENTER	Posted - 2010.07.27 11:04:00 - [14] aha, did laugh of this recently in aharms channel too :p with them bragging to have removed PL from w-space and that they had enough supercap members to ** up a large 0.0 alliance. However since i knew aharm cant field more than a 30ppl fleet at prime time usually, i wasnt worried for any k-space alliances. btw, you cant remove CCRES or AHARM from w-space, unless you manage to bring in the 100 caps it requires over a period of months thru **ty wholes and without their knowledge. Just make your pos an arse to takedown and these evictions will quickly shorten.
Noob Ki'Lear Caldari Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2010.07.27 11:21:00 - [15] I would dearly like to see anyone in wh space with 'supercaps', considering they cant get there or be built.
Nostradamous Caldari Di-Tron Heavy 1ndustries	Posted - 2010.07.27 12:09:00 - [16] Originally by: Ash Tuesday Will they continue to allow Aperture Harmonics and CCRES to terrorize the citizens of wormhole space? Yes Originally by: Ash Tuesday Will they let these two superpowers of wormhole space monopolize the earnings available? Its not like there are only 2 WH's in all of new eden. Originally by: Ash Tuesday Or will they rise up, remove those two corporations, and claim the vast wealth of deep wormhole space for their own? No.
Vox Forvana Amarr BESTIAL CARNAGE Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.07.27 14:48:00 - [17] Originally by: Sala Kyss countdown to widot thread in 3....2....1... ....hi?
Sazuka Kirr Caldari Trans-Solar Works Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2010.07.27 16:21:00 - [18] Your definition of 'bragging' seems to be rather ... well ... off! First of all, if Lord M sharing a funny story about a group of wormhole dwellers self destructing billions of ISK worth of ships is bragging ... well ... just look through some of his previous posts and battle reports. The day I hear Lord M bragging about something like that is the day I will eat my CEO's expensive and quintessentially British top hat, while he sits in his plush purple arm chair, wearing no pants and sipping tea. As for exclusively flying Strategic Cruisers, Faction Battleships and Capital Ship ... that's not 'bragging about ISK'. Tech 3 ships, especially if you live in W-Space, are possibly the best class of ship you can choose, as Aperture Harmonics has stated in the past. Their low mass, combined with their high DPS, Tech 2 resists and BS-level EHP makes them a good alternative to a battleship. Faction Battleships, on the other hand, have bonuses that are pretty much unique to their pirate faction their ship belongs to. I believe I saw one of the battle reports you mention in your post and there was a pilot in a Bhaalgorn. With it's bonus to Energy Neutralisers, especially if being fed cap by a (triaged) carrier, it can neutralise the cap of enemy logistics ships in seconds or the cap of enemy capital ships in minutes. Break down their logistics and enemy gang will melt. Then, onto the carriers, if they drop into Triage, they'll be able to tank all but the very largest of gangs (remember, this is in W-Space, so you can't turn up with a gang of 200 battleships like you can in 0.0) and they'll be able to feed shield, armour and/or capacitor to any of the ships that need it on the field, keeping them alive pretty much indefinitely. None of this is bragging; it's simply organisation and skill. When these come together, you end up with a very strong gang, which is very hard to beat! And who really cares if these guys are farming C6's, raking in billions in the process. As long as they (and others) are farming C5 and 6 w-space, they'll keep the market supplied with T3 gear, which will keep T3's affordable. And don't think these are the only two groups living in W-Space. I know of at least three other alliances and two other corporations that have been living in C6 w-space for quite some time. There's over 100 C6's out there ... that's plenty to go around and plenty that could already be inhabited by groups you've never heard of.
JS LiamElms Gallente Zor Industries Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.07.27 16:46:00 - [19] Originally by: Ash Tuesday A week or so ago, they removed the Pandemic Legion presence from a C6. Not only did they remove it, but they bragged about their isk by not using a single T1 ship to do it. Every ship attacking Pandemic Legion was a faction BS, capital, or T3. i guess i should reply to this... lol that was mine... i pretty much run it solo, with a few friends pt. they wanted 30bil as ransom, which caused much entertainment. they will do this cause they seem to be really keen on scanning and enjoy pos bashes. GL.... i hope they make enough isk to make it to 0.0 kspace. yes i can confirm, running C6/C5 will make losing faction fit dreads/bs/t3 and other shiney ships or missing a few bill here and there, just another day in eve :)
Kirian Kador Amarr Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2010.07.27 17:42:00 - [20] Edited by: Kirian Kador on 27/07/2010 17:43:10 what is this k-space you guys keep talking about? on a more serious note, here is extract from Anoikis chronicle Quote: The capsuleers. They will settle. They will understand the network eventually, and they will command it. Why would we want to come back to k-space with its monster nap trains and lagfest in the first place after we tasted freedom? lol

Ash2k7 Caldari Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2010.07.27 18:05:00 - [21] Edited by: Ash2k7 on 27/07/2010 18:11:00 Originally by: JS LiamElms Originally by: Ash Tuesday A week or so ago, they removed the Pandemic Legion presence from a C6. Not only did they remove it, but they bragged about their isk by not using a single T1 ship to do it. Every ship attacking Pandemic Legion was a faction BS, capital, or T3. i guess i should reply to this... lol that was mine... i pretty much run it solo, with a few friends pt. they wanted 30bil as ransom, which caused much entertainment. they will do this cause they seem to be really keen on scanning and enjoy pos bashes. GL.... i hope they make enough isk to make it to 0.0 kspace. yes i can confirm, running C6/C5 will make losing faction fit dreads/bs/t3 and other shiney ships or missing a few bill here and there, just another day in eve :) Hey if you're robbing Bill Gates, you're not just going to take a $20 bill! Might as well try to get some of the remaining Fountain isk :D I will guarantee that Aperture will never take sov or do anything that requires anything more than temp blues. We're quite happy doing our own thing and having a strict no blue policy is one of the biggest attraction for the older members. 0.0 is for goodfights and fixing sec status only. We don't bring ships to brag, we bring the right tools for the job. We are definitely inspired by Rooks & Kings and PL, amongst others, in designing fits and gang composition. The beauty of w-space is that it rewards in-depth knowledge and planning for exactly where (and who) you are going to be fighting. No cookie cutters, unless you're using Martha Stewart's exhaustive collection.
Nynjato Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.07.27 18:11:00 - [22] Pretty sure that this thread can be wrapped up by saying what they don't want you to know is that they make a load of money and fuel their engines by burning isk.
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2010.07.27 20:33:00 - [23] Originally by: Kirian Kador Why would we want to come back to k-space with its monster nap trains and lagfests and cta's in the first place after we tasted freedom? lol That is so profoundly true. It's hard to find as much freedom as there is in WH-space.
ChaeDoc II Gallente Sigillum Militum Xpisti R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.07.27 20:35:00 - [24] Hi Ash Tuesday, when are you going to post the stuff that CCRES and Aharm don't want anyone to know?
Mad Shade Amarr Nation of Muppets	Posted - 2010.07.28 00:07:00 - [25] -10 internet points to the OP. ----
Razzor Death Gallente Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.07.28 01:53:00 - [26] So carebears that carebear around the clock can afford faction ships, and you managed to "remove" a single pl member from one of your wormholes. Shine on little buddy, shine on..
ChaeDoc II Gallente Sigillum Militum Xpisti R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.07.28 03:17:00 - [27] Originally by: Razzor Death So carebears that carebear around the clock can afford faction ships, and you managed to "remove" a single pl member from one of your wormholes. Shine on little buddy, shine on.. Carebears don't agress, these do. And you've missed the point of the original post. The OP wants you to attack both these Corporations in their home, presumably because he's a butthurt alt and one of these corps upset him by blowing up his internet spaceships. Bless. It'd be ironic if instead, Eagle Nuclear LLC were kicked out of their wormhole system by one of the kspace alliances.
Razzor Death Gallente Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.07.28 03:35:00 - [28] Originally by: ChaeDoc II Carebears don't agress, these do. And you've missed the point of the original post. The OP wants you to attack both these Corporations in their home, presumably because he's a butthurt alt and one of these corps upset him by blowing up his internet spaceships. Bless. It'd be ironic if instead, Eagle Nuclear LLC were kicked out of their wormhole system by one of the kspace alliances. No he is an alt of one of the corporations that did not like the humiliating last topic about them so he has come here to rub there ****s for them whilst posing as someone disgruntled and asking for people to attack them when we all know what is required to do so. I would have really hoped that much was obvious
ChaeDoc II Gallente Sigillum Militum Xpisti R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.07.28 04:48:00 - [29] If he's an Aharm alt then he's a fool for calling out PL like that. I'm going to stop bumping this topic and allow it to disappear into the depths of nothingness that is CAOD: page 2.
aeoluse Gallente Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.07.28 04:54:00 - [30] T3 and Faction BS as standard? Do you know if CCRES or Aperture Harmonics are currently recruiting? As they sound rich and I could always do with more isk and shiny ships.



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