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SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.07.28 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: vondronage I would think the ability to have an endless supply of T2 items out in the middle of nowhere would be much more valuable than you could sell any of the items for. If two otherwise evenly matched corps go to war, one of them can produce T2 items via a BPO, the other has to take the extra step of making their T2 BPCs, who is going to win the war ?
The one with more supercaps. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp |
SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.08.22 03:49:00 -
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Edited by: SurrenderMonkey on 22/08/2010 03:49:29
Originally by: Whitehound You are showing that you do not care about players who feel an unfairness in how T2 BPOs are distributed and lose yourself in logic, calculation and analysis for no reason.
You say this like it's somehow a bad thing. Listen - it's unfortunate that you feel like you've somehow been shortchanged, but the math simply doesn't support your position. Why should anyone care that you "feel" it's unfair when logic, calculations, and analysis can objectively show that the injustice is merely perceived, and that perception is not supported by reality?
If you want a BPO, save up and buy one. That's the only way they are distributed any more. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp |
SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.08.22 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: Harris It's already fair for all.
No, it is not, or else would we not have these threads.
Massive logic fail. You're asserting that people only cry like little girls with sc****d knees when actual unfairness exists. This is not the case. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp |
SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.08.22 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: SurrenderMonkey on 22/08/2010 16:46:04
Originally by: Whitehound
No. You already said that it has no economic influence. Are you now saying that you were wrong?
This may come as a shock to you, but there are factors at play here besides their influence on the economy as a whole. Their economic influence (lack thereof, actually) is only relevant with regard to the complaints of the effect that, "Whawha bpos are screwing up the T2 market!" They're not. They're a blip on the radar for most items.
Quote: CCP has removed several things over the years without any form of compensation. Many NPC buy orders have gone in the past, just recently were the fixed insurances and deep safe spots removed.
Because those are all totally analogous to T2 BPOs, right?
Quote: Now it is time to remove T2 BPOs and let invention rule the market.
Invention already DOES rule the market. That you choose to ignore that does not make it untrue.
Quote: T2 BPOs are an anachronism and new players hate them, because it is impossible for them to get any.
I started my production character in late February of this year. He has already earned enough, all on his own, to buy multiple T2 BPOs, if I were so inclined. Not only is it not "impossible" for a new player to get T2 BPOs, it's not even particularly difficult.
Quote: It is one thing when an old player flies a Titan and a rookie flies in a frigate. It is complete different thing when there is no hope and gives EVE a bad imagine.
Uh... T2 BPOs are vastly more accessible to a new player than a titan. Just FYI. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp |
SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.08.22 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
This is where I stopped reading your comment, which is convenient for me because it turns out you were pointing out that everything I had previously said was objectively, demonstrably, factually incorrect.
FTFY --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp |
SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.08.22 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
However, I do not want to deny you a compensation (nor is it for me to give a compensation). I only want to see the T2 BPOs removed. You should however be able to say why you want a compensation instead of using all caps. If you cannot say why you deserve a compensation then how should the developers measure a good compensation?
IIRC, and it's possible that I don't, I'm not his biographer - Akita doesn't even own any BPOs. The aversion is to the wholly arbitrary destruction of players' assets for no appreciable benefit to the game as a whole.
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For the sake of arguing, I still think that the owners of T2 BPOs have an advantage over those who have to use invention and that any compensation for a removal is a mere false perception.
They have an advantage and... so what? What is your point? Players with more isk have more advantages. Players with supercaps have more advantages. Players with more SPs have more advantages. Players with access to better space have more advantages. None of these advantages are static, nor are any of them insurmountable. If you think BPOs confer such a huge advantage, then go buy one! They are really quite easily attained. Head on over to the sell orders forum on any given day and you'll probably see over a dozen for sale. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp |
SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.08.22 18:38:00 -
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You don't seem to grasp that the vast majority of present-day BPO holders did not acquire them through the lottery. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp |
SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.08.22 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
CCP is now going to remove the ghost accumulation of RP points. What kind of compensation do you feel necessary to be given here?
They're not removing RPs that have already been accumulated, just the ability to accumulate future RPs. Your analogy fails. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp |
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