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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2010.12.29 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand Is your operational structure detailed anywhere?
Borad of Directors
In addition, Poison is in charge of the Cash Reserve and CSF sales, Annabelle Horiz is in charge of NHIMF, and I do all the mineral trades and website development.
Fund Managers are welcome. BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |
Poison
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2010.12.29 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: Poison on 29/12/2010 00:41:59
Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: Kalrand Is your operational structure detailed anywhere?
Borad of Directors
In addition, Poison is in charge of the Cash Reserve and CSF sales, Annabelle Horiz is in charge of NHIMF, and I do all the mineral trades and website development.
Fund Managers are welcome.
In addition you can find prospectus and Reports here BSAC Info
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2010.12.30 03:49:00 -
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December report published. Annual report scheduled for Jan 3rd. No new accounts till Jan 4.
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.01.02 23:35:00 -
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Cash Reserve Open. 3% Interests in January.
Not in the Exchange, don't invest! BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |
Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.01.04 02:39:00 -
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BSAC continues to be the leader in the secondary market, and the BSAC Stock Exchange remains the only real-time stock exchange in EVE available to pod pilots. A Cash Reserve was launched in September, which proved to be an instant success. With over 438 billion ISK transacted in the Exchange, trading shares has never been easier. Read our 2010 Annual Report
Not in the Exchange, don't invest! BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |
RAW23
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Posted - 2011.01.04 15:34:00 -
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Grats on the epic year!
Your slogan still sucks though and I wince every time I read it. With me, at least, it has had the opposite of its desired effect. I was gearing myself up to list all my future offerings on the exchange but I'm afraid I won't support a service that advertises itself by making groundless attacks on other businesses and attempts to use its reputation to make life difficult for anyone pursuing a different approach.
Just to emphasise how nonsensical the slogan is, if any investor were swayed by it they would find themselves restricted to investing in only four businesses other than your various in-house stocks (two of the six listings haven't paid out any dividends in over a year, although I thought EMFI's CEO had reappeared some months ago - do you have any procedure for delisting dead stocks?).
An approach that I'm sure would be much more successful would be to simply remind all new bond issuers of your service by advertising it positively in their thread. It's a great service and deserves to be sold on its real merits.
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Poison
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.01.04 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: Poison on 04/01/2011 21:12:47
Originally by: RAW23 Grats on the epic year!
Your slogan still sucks though and I wince every time I read it. With me, at least, it has had the opposite of its desired effect. I was gearing myself up to list all my future offerings on the exchange but I'm afraid I won't support a service that advertises itself by making groundless attacks on other businesses and attempts to use its reputation to make life difficult for anyone pursuing a different approach.
Just to emphasise how nonsensical the slogan is, if any investor were swayed by it they would find themselves restricted to investing in only four businesses other than your various in-house stocks (two of the six listings haven't paid out any dividends in over a year, although I thought EMFI's CEO had reappeared some months ago - do you have any procedure for delisting dead stocks?).
An approach that I'm sure would be much more successful would be to simply remind all new bond issuers of your service by advertising it positively in their thread. It's a great service and deserves to be sold on its real merits.
We got the point. We are sorry you dont agree with the slogan. If you have any further questions or concerns about the slogan please start your own anti slogan thread.
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.04 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Poison Edited by: Poison on 04/01/2011 21:12:47
Originally by: RAW23 Grats on the epic year!
Your slogan still sucks though and I wince every time I read it. With me, at least, it has had the opposite of its desired effect. I was gearing myself up to list all my future offerings on the exchange but I'm afraid I won't support a service that advertises itself by making groundless attacks on other businesses and attempts to use its reputation to make life difficult for anyone pursuing a different approach.
Just to emphasise how nonsensical the slogan is, if any investor were swayed by it they would find themselves restricted to investing in only four businesses other than your various in-house stocks (two of the six listings haven't paid out any dividends in over a year, although I thought EMFI's CEO had reappeared some months ago - do you have any procedure for delisting dead stocks?).
An approach that I'm sure would be much more successful would be to simply remind all new bond issuers of your service by advertising it positively in their thread. It's a great service and deserves to be sold on its real merits.
We got the point. We are sorry you dont agree with the slogan. If you have any further questions or concerns about the slogan please start your own anti slogan thread.
Your dismissive comment really didn't address any of the issues he raised.
And I'll raise another:
Are people able to withdraw shares from your exchange?
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.01.04 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Poison
We got the point. We are sorry you dont agree with the slogan. If you have any further questions or concerns about the slogan please start your own anti slogan thread.
Since you are using your thread to repeatedly and explicitly tell people not to invest in my businesses (and those of many others) your thread seems the appropriate place to respond. I would suggest that you avoid posting indefensible statements, or at least try to defend your claim that people shouldn't invest in non-listed offerings.
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.01.05 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 Grats on the epic year!
Thanks.
Originally by: RAW23 à I'm afraid I won't support a service that advertises itself by making groundless attacks on other businesses and attempts to use its reputation to make life difficult for anyone pursuing a different approach.
The listing process is very simple and has no cost associated with it. There are no trading fees. However, the information about corporation dividends, shares traded, and number of outstanding shares is made available to the entire eve population via the Exchange. CEOs listing in the Exchange are making a conscious decision of becoming more transparent. Similarly, there is significant transparency with bonds listed in the Exchange.
I like my slogan. It reflects my personal opinion that not listing in the Exchange raises a red-flag.
Originally by: RAW23 Just to emphasise how nonsensical the slogan is, if any investor were swayed by it they would find themselves restricted to investing in only four businesses other than your various in-house stocks (two of the six listings haven't paid out any dividends in over a year, à
Interesting, and how did you noticed that ôtwo of the six listings haven't paid out any dividends in over a yearö?
This kind of information is readily available to anyone in eve via our Exchange. So listing does have its advantages. Avoiding listing in the Exchange is avoiding transparency. I have yet to hear any reasonable reason NOT to list in the Exchange.
Originally by: RAW23 à although I thought EMFI's CEO had reappeared some months ago - do you have any procedure for delisting dead stocks?).
Yes. For instance, TITANS4U was delisted from the Exchange.
Originally by: RAW23 An approach that I'm sure would be much more successful would be to simply remind all new bond issuers of your service by advertising it positively in their thread. It's a great service and deserves to be sold on its real merits.
This ôserviceö is available not only to CEOÆs but to shareholders as well. A shareholder can list a stock if the IPO/BondÆs business plan is posted in this forum with a positive feedback.
Listing in the Exchange does not guarantees against scams or defaults (nothing in eve does), but it does offer a level of transparency regarding dividend payments, share information, IPO/Bond information, and outstanding debts/payments that is not available anywhere else.
Nothing to Hide, List in the Exchange! BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |
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Poison
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.01.05 00:54:00 -
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Edited by: Poison on 05/01/2011 00:54:39
Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Poison Edited by: Poison on 04/01/2011 21:12:47
We got the point. We are sorry you dont agree with the slogan. If you have any further questions or concerns about the slogan please start your own anti slogan thread.
Your dismissive comment really didn't address any of the issues he raised.
And I'll raise another:
Are people able to withdraw shares from your exchange?
Most of bsac shares that are on the exchange are only traded on the exchange so withdraw is not possible.(AKA Vitural Shares) Only isk is deposited and withdrawn.
As for the slogan I am sorry I thought block was clear, it will remain. \
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.05 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Poison Edited by: Poison on 05/01/2011 00:54:39
Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Poison Edited by: Poison on 04/01/2011 21:12:47
We got the point. We are sorry you dont agree with the slogan. If you have any further questions or concerns about the slogan please start your own anti slogan thread.
Your dismissive comment really didn't address any of the issues he raised.
And I'll raise another:
Are people able to withdraw shares from your exchange?
Most of bsac shares that are on the exchange are only traded on the exchange so withdraw is not possible.(AKA Vitural Shares) Only isk is deposited and withdrawn.
As for the slogan I am sorry I thought block was clear, it will remain. \
I understand that your custom funds are not withdrawable, that makes sense.
What I am referring to are the bonds and shares that are issued and managed using the in-game share system, such as CRCH, withdrawable from the exchange?
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.01.05 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand What I am referring to are the bonds and shares that are issued and managed using the in-game share system, such as CRCH, withdrawable from the exchange?
No. This has been discussed at length previously; only option is CEOs block withdrawals.
BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |
Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2011.01.05 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: Block Ukx BSAC continues to be the leader in the secondary market, and the BSAC Stock Exchange remains the only real-time stock exchange in EVE available to pod pilots. A Cash Reserve was launched in September, which proved to be an instant success. With over 438 billion ISK transacted in the Exchange, trading shares has never been easier. Read our 2010 Annual Report
Not in the Exchange, don't invest!
Enjoyed the read, appreciated the graphs; thank you.
My recollection is that at some point you advised that Nocx reserves were dwindling. What were the max and min Nocx holdings over the past year (measured in in units of Nocx, rather than value), and when were those extremes?
Far Ranger [FARR]: Always slogan-free! D'oh! Well, until now, at least. á á
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.01.05 08:20:00 -
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I have yet to hear any reasonable reason NOT to list in the Exchange
I have some considerations about the Exchange. They might be wrong of course.
- I have not found any interoperability facility. WoW had intrinsic internal API to fetch data, EvE got external API, BSAC got?
Without interoperability it's hard to do anything but buy and hold and hope.
- Text only, which could be good enough if the above did not apply.
- Free in everything. This immediately kills any future alternative exchange establishing a de facto monopoly.
- Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.05 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: Kalrand What I am referring to are the bonds and shares that are issued and managed using the in-game share system, such as CRCH, withdrawable from the exchange?
No. This has been discussed at length previously; only option is CEOs block withdrawals.
What procedures do you have in place for the common investor, if they have a loss of confidence in your organization, but not in the underlying funds that they hold?
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.01.05 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: RAW23 on 05/01/2011 11:32:39 Edited by: RAW23 on 05/01/2011 11:30:25
Originally by: Block Ukx
The listing process is very simple and has no cost associated with it. There are no trading fees. However, the information about corporation dividends, shares traded, and number of outstanding shares is made available to the entire eve population via the Exchange. CEOs listing in the Exchange are making a conscious decision of becoming more transparent. Similarly, there is significant transparency with bonds listed in the Exchange.
I like my slogan. It reflects my personal opinion that not listing in the Exchange raises a red-flag.
This kind of information is readily available to anyone in eve via our Exchange. So listing does have its advantages. Avoiding listing in the Exchange is avoiding transparency. I have yet to hear any reasonable reason NOT to list in the Exchange.
à
Listing in the Exchange does not guarantees against scams or defaults (nothing in eve does), but it does offer a level of transparency regarding dividend payments, share information, IPO/Bond information, and outstanding debts/payments that is not available anywhere else.
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I certainly agree that all the things the exchange provides are excellent services and are useful to potential investors. However, it seems to me that these features provide more in the way of an easily accessible information service rather than actually increasing transparency to a significant degree (compared to the transparency provided by audits, for instance, the transparency offered by the exchange would be marginal to my decisions to invest). As an investor the information on the exchange is great because it is consolidated in one place but it is not information that is unavailable elsewhere.
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Interesting, and how did you noticed that ôtwo of the six listings haven't paid out any dividends in over a yearö?
I already knew that EMFI and Katiana Swan's IPO were not paying out dividends because I follow the forums. This is not to underplay the value of having a one stop shop for checking up on this data though. And nor is it to downplay the primary attraction of the exchange which is precisely to allow for the easy purchase and sale of stakes in companies.
However, just because of the value of the service you provide there are some dangers. Once it becomes the industry standard to list on the exchange, as may well happen, then a great deal of power over the investment market in eve will be concentrated in your hands. If the exchange becomes the standard means for launching publicly funded businesses you will be in a position to deny a listing to offerings and make them non-viable. I would be interested to know whether you have planned any safe-guards looking ahead to the eventuality of the exchange becoming the dominant medium for investment transactions.
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Originally by: RAW23 à although I thought EMFI's CEO had reappeared some months ago - do you have any procedure for delisting dead stocks?).
Yes. For instance, TITANS4U was delisted from the Exchange.
T4U was a fairly clear cut case as the CEO happily admitted to scamming. But are there any procedures for delisting in the more problematic cases where a CEO simply disappears and stops paying out without liquidating. Katiana went silent after less than a month, iirc, but people are still trading her shares, albeit in token quantities, at more than twice their face value. Isn't there a risk that continuing to list shares like these long after the company has gone silent encourages people to buy in to something with no value? Of course, investors would have no one to blame but themselves and I understand that passing judgement on the death of a silent business is a tricky matter but do you intend to keep these listings up indefinitely?
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Nothing to Hide, List in the Exchange!
Nice :-)
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2011.01.05 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Block Ukx Listing in the Exchange does not guarantees against scams or defaults (nothing in eve does), but it does offer a level of transparency regarding dividend payments, share information, IPO/Bond information, and outstanding debts/payments that is not available anywhere else.
I can't find any dividend info for the cash reserve. Also, I've noticed that the cash reserve has tripled in size since it was started. How does that compare to the size of the secured collateral.
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Poison
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.01.05 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Claire Voyant
Originally by: Block Ukx Listing in the Exchange does not guarantees against scams or defaults (nothing in eve does), but it does offer a level of transparency regarding dividend payments, share information, IPO/Bond information, and outstanding debts/payments that is not available anywhere else.
I can't find any dividend info for the cash reserve. Also, I've noticed that the cash reserve has tripled in size since it was started. How does that compare to the size of the secured collateral.
If you look on the very first post on this form I think you will find the div info about the CR. December DIV will not change. I will let Block explain again about the collateral.
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.01.06 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Thoraemond My recollection is that at some point you advised that Nocx reserves were dwindling. What were the max and min Nocx holdings over the past year (measured in in units of Nocx, rather than value), and when were those extremes?
The Nocxium reserve peaked at 702 Million units by the end of January 2,010. We had our largest stockpile drop in October, with a net change of 274 Million units of Nocxium. Our lowest Reserve stock was in December (amount not to be disclosed at this time). Currently, we are targeting a fix Nocxium level, while we hopefully wait for the price to reach 800 ISK.
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha - I have not found any interoperability facility. WoW had intrinsic internal API to fetch data, EvE got external API, BSAC got?
I know you requested such feature sometime ago, and I thought it was a great idea. Currently, BSAC got a few ôprivateö API request functions to fetch xml data. I think you have a clearly good idea of what sort of data you would like to fetch from the Exchange, and I would like to discuss with you the request format for testing.
I think implementing your NEISIN idea would work great for fetching Exchange data. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1441688
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha - Free in everything. This immediately kills any future alternative exchange establishing a de facto monopoly.
I like the ôgoogleö and ôWikipediaö model, and I donÆt think they are ôa de facto monopolyö.
Originally by: Kalrand What procedures do you have in place for the common investor, if they have a loss of confidence in your organization, but not in the underlying funds that they hold?
As I have mentioned before and have been discussed at length by others (Hexxx comes to mind), registered shares are a key component of a real-time Exchange. Registered shares cannot be withdrawn from the Exchange unless a CEO initiates a block withdrawal.
Investors would need to convince the CEO to execute a block withdrawal. Once the shares leave the Exchange, it is the sole CEO responsibility to return shares to its rightful owners.
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.01.06 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 à it seems to me that these features provide more in the way of an easily accessible information service rather than actually increasing transparency à
Transparency is only achieved when the information is easily accessible.
Originally by: RAW23 à to a significant degree (compared to the transparency provided by audits, for instance, the transparency offered by the exchange would be marginal to my decisions to invest).
Typically, audits are done once before the Bond/IPO launches, and do not provide any information regarding continuing dividends, trading volumes, nor earnings per share. I donÆt rely on audits to make my investment decisions. The decision to invest is always a personal one.
Originally by: RAW23 As an investor the information on the exchange is great because it is consolidated in one place but it is not information that is unavailable elsewhere.
Again, I donÆt call it transparency if you have to dig under the rug to find the information you are looking for. And some information is NOT available elsewhere. For instance, earnings per share are only available to the shareholder and not to the entire eve population. Historical information is also hard to find.
Originally by: RAW23 If the exchange becomes the standard means for launching publicly funded businesses you will be in a position to deny a listing to offerings and make them non-viable. I would be interested to know whether you have planned any safe-guards looking ahead to the eventuality of the exchange becoming the dominant medium for investment transactions.
It is not the goal of the exchange to become ôthe standard means for launching publicly funded businessesö. A major requirement for listing in the Exchange is having a positive review of the business plan in the MD forums. Obviously, businesses shut down by the MD forums will not be listed. The power to deny listing in the Exchange will always remain within the MD community.
Originally by: RAW23 But are there any procedures for delisting in the more problematic cases where a CEO simply disappears and stops paying out without liquidating.
The Board of Directors has the power to delist a stock from the Exchange. We rely on the MD forums to decide whether or not to delist a stock.
Originally by: RAW23 Isn't there a risk that continuing to list shares like these long after the company has gone silent encourages people to buy in to something with no value?
Historical information is provided in the Exchange for investors to make their own decisions. Listing in the Exchange does not guarantee against scams or defaults; nothing in eve does.
Originally by: RAW23 à a silent business is a tricky matter but do you intend to keep these listings up indefinitely?
Since delisting has the most effect on shareholders, they can contact any member of the Board of Director and request a stock to be delisted.
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.01.06 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Claire Voyant I can't find any dividend info for the cash reserve.
Good point. The information is now available in the Cash Reserve page under the Information Desk.
Originally by: Claire Voyant Also, I've noticed that the cash reserve has tripled in size since it was started. How does that compare to the size of the secured collateral.
There is no ôsecure collateralö. Currently, there is a 100 B maximum liability. Poison is vested 132 B in BSAMR, and his 31 B investment in the Cash Reserve is not taken into account for liability purposes. In addition, 20% is kept liquid to process withdrawals.
BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |
Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.06 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Block Ukx
As I have mentioned before and have been discussed at length by others (Hexxx comes to mind), registered shares are a key component of a real-time Exchange. Registered shares cannot be withdrawn from the Exchange unless a CEO initiates a block withdrawal.
Investors would need to convince the CEO to execute a block withdrawal. Once the shares leave the Exchange, it is the sole CEO responsibility to return shares to its rightful owners.
If I am correct, anyone can deposit shares, even if they are not the CEO, right? In the case of a CEO who takes a laissez faire attitude towards your exchange, do you have something in place for people who deposit when the CEO isn't involved?
Also, when Titans4U was delisted from your exchange, what happened to the shares you held?
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.01.06 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand If I am correct, anyone can deposit shares, even if they are not the CEO, right?
Yes, anyone can deposit shares in the Exchange as long as the IPO/Bond meets the listing requirements.
Originally by: Kalrand In the case of a CEO who takes a laissez faire attitude towards your exchange, do you have something in place for people who deposit when the CEO isn't involved?
No.
Originally by: Kalrand Also, when Titans4U was delisted from your exchange, what happened to the shares you held?
The shares held in trust will remain in the custody of the Exchange. Shareholders will remain the owners of the shares, as is clearly visible in their account balance sheet.
BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |
Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.06 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: Kalrand If I am correct, anyone can deposit shares, even if they are not the CEO, right?
Yes, anyone can deposit shares in the Exchange as long as the IPO/Bond meets the listing requirements.
Originally by: Kalrand In the case of a CEO who takes a laissez faire attitude towards your exchange, do you have something in place for people who deposit when the CEO isn't involved?
No.
So, in essence, you've stolen them at that point.
Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: Kalrand Also, when Titans4U was delisted from your exchange, what happened to the shares you held?
The shares held in trust will remain in the custody of the Exchange. Shareholders will remain the owners of the shares, as is clearly visible in their account balance sheet.
So not only can they not trade their shares on your exchange (say for collector's value), they can't withdraw them either.
But oh! You've left a notation on your register for them.
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.01.06 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand So, in essence, you've stolen them at that point.
No. This point has been made very clear early on to everyone, and I will repeat it again: Shares can only be withdrawn by the CEO via block purchases.
Originally by: Kalrand So not only can they not trade their shares on your exchange (say for collector's value), they can't withdraw them either.
It is worthless to BSAC to hold on to shares that have no intrinsic value. It is impossible to withdraw 10 shares of TITANS4U because of the 1:100 stock-split. If anyone is interested in making a block purchases on de-listed shares they should contact the BOD.
I have always worked with shareholders to meet their expectations and go to great lengths to resolve their issues. Besides, it is worthless for BSAC to hold on to de-listed shares. If you have any issues regarding your investment in the Exchange, then you should contact the BOD.
Not in the Exchange, Don't Invest! BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |
Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.06 18:21:00 -
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It's in the Exchange?!? You'll Never Get It Out!
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.01.06 22:13:00 -
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I think implementing your NEISIN idea would work great for fetching Exchange data
If you so desire, I have a PHP source to both create and check (NE)ISINs.
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I think you have a clearly good idea of what sort of data you would like to fetch from the Exchange
Yes I do, and I'd hate to waste my unbearably small free time to duplicate your work just to add some things. If it's possible to work out something we can talk about I'd be glad to detail my ideas.
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I like the ôgoogleö and ôWikipediaö model, and I donÆt think they are ôa de facto monopolyö.
Google iirc had multiple monopoly charges already. Wikipedia is structured as a vastly less ambitious (in financial terms) project and has yet to use its dominant position.
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As I have mentioned before and have been discussed at length by others (Hexxx comes to mind), registered shares are a key component of a real-time Exchange. Registered shares cannot be withdrawn from the Exchange unless a CEO initiates a block withdrawal.
Investors would need to convince the CEO to execute a block withdrawal. Once the shares leave the Exchange, it is the sole CEO responsibility to return shares to its rightful owners.
In the most common case of an IPO, shares should be well defined in the prospectus. It's rare to see an investee state his shares contract, in RL people can exercise options and shares may be purchased back and destroyed or (commonly) become treasury shares ready for future buyers (or to bypass investors).
Maybe... bah, it's useless to post a difficult blurb here, we should just talk in game about this issue as well, which is also related to the lack of fees and generally of options (in the financial term).
- Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.01.07 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Yes I do, and I'd hate to waste my unbearably small free time to duplicate your work just to add some things. If it's possible to work out something we can talk about I'd be glad to detail my ideas.
Ok. What is the best eve-time to reach you in-game?
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.01.07 08:01:00 -
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I'll send you an eve mail with details. - Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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