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Taranius De Consolville
Precision Engineering Corrosive.
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:28:00 -
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So it occurred to me that with all these *send more high sec players to low/null sec* may actually be a problem for EvE Online as a whole.
In the 4 years eve players have always said about low being more accessible to new/newish players. But then I Ask you a question. With virtually no penalty for ship killing, any player can potentially pirate for a few days, go back to high sec, run his level 4's and get back to 5.0 sec stat and rinse and repeat.
Killing players in low sec/high sec that are not wt's should instantly reduce a player to -5.0 sec status. This would stop the *random* pirates in low sec and would leave the hardcore group who are pirates because they want to be. Thus, more players would enter low sec because the amount of so called *pirates* wouldn't be there. The sec hit would be to large. Gate guns should not *be there to save you ass* as a recent troll put it, but pirates should NOT be able to sit on gates and stations popping people, if they want to pirate, they should have to use scan probes and track us down, not have it handed to them on a plate.
Now null sec. Please give me one solid reason and I mean SOLID reason why I should leave high sec and come to Null Sec? You make more Money? Okay, but as long as I have 100mil I don't feel I need any more ISK. I like PvP but have yet to find a PvP corp (this is not my only char ofc) that doesn't have a **** head FC who treats you like a piece of shite on the bottom of his shoe. Dead regions, if u stray more than 7 jumps from a hub, no ones about. Its boring.
So why the sudden *we need more players*, is it perhaps you are screwed your null sec so badly that targets really don't exist any more unless you invade a region and force them to fight? We all know the majority of eve's player base is in empire, the question you need to ask yourselves is why? Why are they in empire and not in your little empires?
I think the answer, is one you don't want to look at, massive rents, huge monthly fee's, not to mention corps being kicked if they don't provide massive pvp presence in some alliance, constant CTAS at random hours of the night when people have families and work. FC's who yell at people because they cant control there tempers over a video game? No, u call us *cowards* and *the noobs who hide in high sec* - Maybe, but since no PvP pilot has ever been able to give me a solid reason why I should join a null sec alliance, ill stand by my guns.
Take a good long hard look at your null sec empire. There is nothing in null sec worth us going for.
Null Sec / Low Sec has been screwed up by one group, the PvP pilots who live on EvE Online, you have screwed your own regions up, you have had high sec nerfed so much in attempts to force us out, but guess what, WE ARE STILL HERE. You camp gates, we won't come in, you camp stations, we won't undock. You need to sort yourselves out.
Bottom line is
STOP BLAMING WELL MEANING HIGH SEC PLAYERS FOR YOUR MISTAKES AND SCREW UPS. |

Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:30:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:
Now null sec. Please give me one solid reason and I mean SOLID reason why I should leave high sec and come to Null Sec? You make more Money?
Lol no. |

Taranius De Consolville
Precision Engineering Corrosive.
37
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:31:00 -
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Rordan D'Kherr wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote:
Now null sec. Please give me one solid reason and I mean SOLID reason why I should leave high sec and come to Null Sec? You make more Money?
Lol no.
And so begins the alt's in NPC corps trolling.
Post with your main |

Major Bibi
0
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:35:00 -
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well said
tho don't blame all pvp players it is only a small group of pvp zealots that keeps shouting and whinning how it is so unfair that nobody wants to play the game how they want to play it learning anything more complex than pvp is beyond them , lets be honest basic pvp is one of the easiest things to learn in this game |

Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
968
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:39:00 -
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I know!
You tried this game, lost, it must feel a bit bad in a little-girl-whose-bff-started-to-bff-with-another-kind of way, but you know what? You can start all over! Just biomass that toon, start a new one from scratch and nobody has to know that you were once a hisec failure <3
Imagine, you can be popular and hang out with cool brosefs after downtime! Fly in fleets! Target primaries! All the beautiful things others have can be yours too!
Change is possible.
Shiva Furnace - now recruiting solid pilots! |

Xinivrae
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:45:00 -
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I like how it initially went from this:
Taranius De Consolville wrote:So it occurred to me that with all these *send more high sec players to low/null sec* may actually be a problem for EvE Online as a whole.
In the 4 years eve players have always said about low being more accessible to new/newish players bah blah blah...
to this
Taranius De Consolville wrote:STOP BLAMING WELL MEANING HIGH SEC PLAYERS FOR YOUR MISTAKES AND SCREW UPS. |

Taranius De Consolville
Precision Engineering Corrosive.
41
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:46:00 -
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Roime wrote:I know!
You tried this game, lost, it must feel a bit bad in a little-girl-whose-bff-started-to-bff-with-another-kind of way, but you know what? You can start all over! Just biomass that toon, start a new one from scratch and nobody has to know that you were once a hisec failure <3
Imagine, you can be popular and hang out with cool brosefs after downtime! Fly in fleets! Target primaries! All the beautiful things others have can be yours too!
Change is possible.
You can troll all you like in an attempt to look *smart* and *awsum* but as i don't know ANY real life mates who play this game, your reasoning is flawed on so many level's. I didn't fail. i have lots of ISK, a nice selection of ships including faction and navy ships, i do exploration and have fun.
You missed the entire point of this post and just wanted to look *cool* and attempt to troll me. You failed. |

Taranius De Consolville
Precision Engineering Corrosive.
41
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:48:00 -
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Xinivrae wrote:I like how it initially went from this: Taranius De Consolville wrote:So it occurred to me that with all these *send more high sec players to low/null sec* may actually be a problem for EvE Online as a whole.
In the 4 years eve players have always said about low being more accessible to new/newish players bah blah blah... to this Taranius De Consolville wrote:STOP BLAMING WELL MEANING HIGH SEC PLAYERS FOR YOUR MISTAKES AND SCREW UPS.
It is one and the same point and reason.
Null Sec players need to stop trying to force other players to play how they want them to play.
If you want to live in null, go ahead, have fun, if its great for you, great, have fun
But i like empire, i like messing around up here, i have a -10 pirate char which i NEVER gate camp with or station camp as my morals deem that unfair, so i pvp by probes and cloaking tactics. Over 3k kills on that account.
My point is that you people need to stop trying to FORCE others to play as you play and let people play EVE ONLINE as they want to. |

Lilly Tiger
Megalith Heavy Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:52:00 -
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Your point is valid. Ignore the idiot trolls 
They simply can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that most players in EVE do not want to play the game the way they like us to.
The best and worst thing about eve is the same: the players. EVE: so much player freedom, so many assholes.  |

Taranius De Consolville
Precision Engineering Corrosive.
43
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:56:00 -
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Lilly Tiger wrote:Your point is valid. Ignore the idiot trolls  They simply can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that most players in EVE do not want to play the game the way they like us to. The best and worst thing about eve is the same: the players. EVE: so much player freedom, so many assholes. 
Aye and that's what ive noticed, so many players throwing there toys out there prams screaming because they cant shoot me because I wont go and play in there home area.
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dexington
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:59:00 -
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Roime wrote:Fly in fleets! Target primaries! All the beautiful things others have can be yours too!
If it's so great is don't understand why null-sec people constantly whine about all the things that are broken i null, and how boring the blob/supercap/etc warfare is.
When the choice is between being a carebear, or a nobody who is being told what to shoot, i pick carebear... at least then i can live my failed existence in hi-sec, happy and content, without constantly having to complain about all the things that is wrong with eve. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1377
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Posted - 2012.07.23 10:59:00 -
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Major Bibi wrote:learning anything more complex than pvp is beyond them
heh you think that using a spreadsheet that you downloaded from somewhere to build crap makes you good at this game a rogue goon |

Taranius De Consolville
Precision Engineering Corrosive.
43
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:02:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Major Bibi wrote:learning anything more complex than pvp is beyond them heh you think that using a spreadsheet that you downloaded from somewhere to build crap makes you good at this game
Don't derail my thread goon. Ofc it makes him better than you, you pick a ship, get a fit from your forums and join a fleet and shoot who your told to shoot, flying fleets of ships all the same because your FC ordered u to do so because he controls your game play
good for you, have fun, play your game
we don't want to do that, so stop trying to force us to
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Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
968
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:03:00 -
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dexington wrote:Roime wrote:Fly in fleets! Target primaries! All the beautiful things others have can be yours too! If it's so great is don't understand why null-sec people constantly whine about all the things that are broken i null, and how boring the blob/supercap/etc warfare is. When the choice is between being a carebear, or a nobody who is being told what to shoot, i pick carebear... at least then i can live my failed existence in hi-sec, happy and content, without constantly having to complain about all the things that is wrong with eve.
I don't live in null
Of course, for the bear, everything outside their cradle is the same.
Shiva Furnace - now recruiting solid pilots! |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
733
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:03:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:In the 4 years eve players have always said about low being more accessible to new/newish players. But then I Ask you a question. With virtually no penalty for ship killing, any player can potentially pirate for a few days, go back to high sec, run his level 4's and get back to 5.0 sec stat and rinse and repeat.
Killing players in low sec/high sec that are not wt's should instantly reduce a player to -5.0 sec status. This would stop the *random* pirates in low sec and would leave the hardcore group who are pirates because they want to be.
"Lowsec is easily accessible by new players, because the penalties for PvP are low, people can try it out and then go back to make money. Let's make the penalties higher, that will make it more accessible."
0/10 not even gonna read the rest |

Taranius De Consolville
Precision Engineering Corrosive.
43
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:09:00 -
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Roime wrote:dexington wrote:Roime wrote:Fly in fleets! Target primaries! All the beautiful things others have can be yours too! If it's so great is don't understand why null-sec people constantly whine about all the things that are broken i null, and how boring the blob/supercap/etc warfare is. When the choice is between being a carebear, or a nobody who is being told what to shoot, i pick carebear... at least then i can live my failed existence in hi-sec, happy and content, without constantly having to complain about all the things that is wrong with eve. I don't live in null Of course, for the bear, everything outside their cradle is the same.
Ofc it is, we play how we like with no risk because WE CHOOSE TO, its as simple as that. Your trolling for the sake of trolling. |

Xinivrae
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:10:00 -
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Ok, ok. Let's chat then because I'm curious as to some... stuff.
Taranius De Consolville wrote:I Ask you a question. With virtually no penalty for ship killing, any player can potentially pirate for a few days, go back to high sec, run his level 4's and get back to 5.0 sec stat and rinse and repeat.
Killing players in low sec/high sec that are not wt's should instantly reduce a player to -5.0 sec status. This would stop the *random* pirates in low sec and would leave the hardcore group who are pirates because they want to be. Thus, more players would enter low sec because the amount of so called *pirates* wouldn't be there. The sec hit would be to large
What's the problem with the weekend pirate? Wouldn't your proposal here be shoehorning people into a certain play style? When I started eve, however long ago, my friend and I were weekend pirates. It was a fun break from missions, but it wasn't something we wanted to do as our career. Why should we be penalized so harshly for wanting to dip our toes into lowsec for pvp, or play around with rookie ships shooting each other and timing concord? |

Taranius De Consolville
Precision Engineering Corrosive.
43
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:10:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote:In the 4 years eve players have always said about low being more accessible to new/newish players. But then I Ask you a question. With virtually no penalty for ship killing, any player can potentially pirate for a few days, go back to high sec, run his level 4's and get back to 5.0 sec stat and rinse and repeat.
Killing players in low sec/high sec that are not wt's should instantly reduce a player to -5.0 sec status. This would stop the *random* pirates in low sec and would leave the hardcore group who are pirates because they want to be. "Lowsec is easily accessible by new players, because the penalties for PvP are low, people can try it out and then go back to make money. Let's make the penalties higher, that will make it more accessible." 0/10 not even gonna read the rest
Blatant pvp Muppet. I have no patience for people who cannot see outside there box
I don't care what *ccp say* in *official* crap, they are wrong, they don't play the game, low sec is mostly dead, why is that i wonder? Oh yeh, i just told you why... |

Taranius De Consolville
Precision Engineering Corrosive.
43
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:12:00 -
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Xinivrae wrote:Ok, ok. Let's chat then because I'm curious as to some... stuff. Taranius De Consolville wrote:I Ask you a question. With virtually no penalty for ship killing, any player can potentially pirate for a few days, go back to high sec, run his level 4's and get back to 5.0 sec stat and rinse and repeat.
Killing players in low sec/high sec that are not wt's should instantly reduce a player to -5.0 sec status. This would stop the *random* pirates in low sec and would leave the hardcore group who are pirates because they want to be. Thus, more players would enter low sec because the amount of so called *pirates* wouldn't be there. The sec hit would be to large What's the problem with the weekend pirate? Wouldn't your proposal here be shoehorning people into a certain play style? When I started eve, however long ago, my friend and I were weekend pirates. It was a fun break from missions, but it wasn't something we wanted to do as our career. Why should we be penalized so harshly for wanting to dip our toes into lowsec for pvp, or play around with rookie ships shooting each other and timing concord?
You can call it whatever you like
If you want to pvp with no penalties, go to null sec
If you pvp in low sec, you should be punished by concord accordingly, not this light slap on the wrist you currently get.
Make a career choice, its as simple as that. |

Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
125
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:12:00 -
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I make the same amount of money in null as I do in high. The problem with null (at least the region I'm in) is that you spend half the time chasing reds and half the time doing content to earn cash. In high you spend zero time chasing reds and all of your time earning cash, so it's about the same. |

Xinivrae
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:16:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote: Don't derail my thread goon. Ofc it makes him better than you, you pick a ship, get a fit from your forums and join a fleet and shoot who your told to shoot, flying fleets of ships all the same because your FC ordered u to do so because he controls your game play
Confirming I have never seen a hero megathron or machariel in drakefleet, and those ships which did not appear were certainly not well received nor applauded for being awesome. |

Taranius De Consolville
Precision Engineering Corrosive.
45
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:17:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:I make the same amount of money in null as I do in high. The problem with null (at least the region I'm in) is that you spend half the time chasing reds and half the time doing content to earn cash. In high you spend zero time chasing reds and all of your time earning cash, so it's about the same.
Exactly, so tell me why i should waste my time in null sec? |

Taranius De Consolville
Precision Engineering Corrosive.
45
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:18:00 -
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Xinivrae wrote:Taranius De Consolville wrote: Don't derail my thread goon. Ofc it makes him better than you, you pick a ship, get a fit from your forums and join a fleet and shoot who your told to shoot, flying fleets of ships all the same because your FC ordered u to do so because he controls your game play
Confirming I have never seen a hero megathron or machariel in drakefleet, and those ships which did not appear were certainly not well received nor applauded for being awesome.
Have fun with your pvp, its not my cup of tea in massive blobs, stop trying to force me to join your blobs |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1377
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:18:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:Victoria Sin wrote:I make the same amount of money in null as I do in high. The problem with null (at least the region I'm in) is that you spend half the time chasing reds and half the time doing content to earn cash. In high you spend zero time chasing reds and all of your time earning cash, so it's about the same. Exactly, so tell me why i should waste my time in null sec?
we don't want more risk averse carebears in nullsec who refuse to do anything but rat, so don't worry about it a rogue goon |

Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
968
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:18:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:
Ofc it is, we play how we like with no risk because WE CHOOSE TO, its as simple as that. Your trolling for the sake of trolling.
Why do you act like someone cares?
We don't have any interest in you or your choices. Stop making bad threads and go save the damsel, or clear the Blockade if you're feeling all crazy  Shiva Furnace - now recruiting solid pilots! |

dexington
56
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:21:00 -
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Roime wrote: I don't live in null
Of course, for the bear, everything outside their cradle is the same.
I did not comment on where you live, but you are right the bear don't care, having fun is more important then living in null, low or hi-sec for that matter.
Play the game the way that works for you, but don't fool yourself into believing your are the new messiah, here to lead the people the promised land. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á |

Xinivrae
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:29:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:"Lowsec is easily accessible by new players, because the penalties for PvP are low, people can try it out and then go back to make money. Let's make the penalties higher, that will make it more accessible."
0/10 not even gonna read the rest
I'm just going to quote this because it pretty much explains how daft your lowsec idea is.
Taranius De Consolville wrote:Have fun with your pvp, its not my cup of tea in massive blobs, stop trying to force me to join your blobs
I was unaware we were kidnapping the fine citizens of empire space and using them as shock troops and cannon fodder in our 0.0 warfare.
I'm starting to think that YOU think that being ganked in empire is some sort of special outreach program for us to say, "look how much fun we're having, this could be you blowing up people!" It's not, we just blew you up for kicks.
If that doesn't apply, please specifically state how we're trying to drag you kicking and screaming into null blob warfare, cause now I'm really curious. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1378
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:33:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:Don't derail my thread goon. Ofc it makes him better than you, you pick a ship, get a fit from your forums and join a fleet and shoot who your told to shoot, flying fleets of ships all the same because your FC ordered u to do so because he controls your game play
good for you, have fun, play your game
we don't want to do that, so stop trying to force us to
heh you're still enthralled by the ~eve industry is complex~ nonsense
so, so cute a rogue goon |

Taranius De Consolville
Precision Engineering Corrosive.
49
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:39:00 -
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I can see goons have now decided to hijack the thread and this will descend into troll heaven. I was enjoying this discussion up untill this point. I think i will pass now :)
Enjoy the trolling, the trolling is here because you know
We are right and have valid points |

Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
109
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Posted - 2012.07.23 11:51:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:I can see goons have now decided to hijack the thread and this will descend into troll heaven. I was enjoying this discussion up untill this point. I think i will pass now :)
Enjoy the trolling, the trolling is here because you know
We are right and have valid points
No you arent and no you dont. All that stupid pile of monkey crap proposal of yours would do is lock out anyone from crossing the boundaries between high sec and the rest of eve.
Please note I dont really care if more people come to lowsec or not, I'm happy shooting the ones who are already here, but people should always have the option if they so choose. You're also ignoring every lowsec resident who controls something that benefits from highseccers using it, such as the lowsec POCO owners who make most of their money from highseccers doing their PI in lowsec because its more profitable.
Next tiem try actually thinking about what you post rather than spergposting a bunch of crap and looking like an idiot. |
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