So it occurred to me that with all these *send more high sec players to low/null sec* may actually be a problem for EvE Online as a whole.

No you arent and no you dont. All that stupid pile of monkey crap proposal of yours would do is lock out anyone from crossing the boundaries between high sec and the rest of eve.

Please note I dont really care if more people come to lowsec or not, I'm happy shooting the ones who are already here, but people should always have the option if they so choose. You're also ignoring every lowsec resident who controls something that benefits from highseccers using it, such as the lowsec POCO owners who make most of their money from highseccers doing their PI in lowsec because its more profitable.

Next tiem try actually thinking about what you post rather than spergposting a bunch of crap and looking like an idiot.

I can see goons have now decided to hijack the thread and this will descend into troll heaven. I was enjoying this discussion up untill this point. I think i will pass now :)

Enjoy the trolling, the trolling is here because you know

We are right and have valid points

So it occurred to me that with all these *send more high sec players to low/null sec* may actually be a problem for EvE Online as a whole.

In the 4 years eve players have always said about low being more accessible to new/newish players. But then I Ask you a question. With virtually no penalty for ship killing, any player can potentially pirate for a few days, go back to high sec, run his level 4's and get back to 5.0 sec stat and rinse and repeat.

Killing players in low sec/high sec that are not wt's should instantly reduce a player to -5.0 sec status. This would stop the *random* pirates in low sec and would leave the hardcore group who are pirates because they want to be. Thus, more players would enter low sec because the amount of so called *pirates* wouldn't be there. The sec hit would be to large. Gate guns should not *be there to save you ass* as a recent troll put it, but pirates should NOT be able to sit on gates and stations popping people, if they want to pirate, they should have to use scan probes and track us down, not have it handed to them on a plate.

Now null sec. Please give me one solid reason and I mean SOLID reason why I should leave high sec and come to Null Sec? You make more Money? Okay, but as long as I have 100mil I don't feel I need any more ISK. I like PvP but have yet to find a PvP corp (this is not my only char ofc) that doesn't have a **** head FC who treats you like a piece of shite on the bottom of his shoe. Dead regions, if u stray more than 7 jumps from a hub, no ones about. Its boring.

So why the sudden *we need more players*, is it perhaps you are screwed your null sec so badly that targets really don't exist any more unless you invade a region and force them to fight? We all know the majority of eve's player base is in empire, the question you need to ask yourselves is why? Why are they in empire and not in your little empires?

I think the answer, is one you don't want to look at, massive rents, huge monthly fee's, not to mention corps being kicked if they don't provide massive pvp presence in some alliance, constant CTAS at random hours of the night when people have families and work. FC's who yell at people because they cant control there tempers over a video game? No, u call us *cowards* and *the noobs who hide in high sec* - Maybe, but since no PvP pilot has ever been able to give me a solid reason why I should join a null sec alliance, ill stand by my guns.

Take a good long hard look at your null sec empire. There is nothing in null sec worth us going for.

Null Sec / Low Sec has been screwed up by one group, the PvP pilots who live on EvE Online, you have screwed your own regions up, you have had high sec nerfed so much in attempts to force us out, but guess what, WE ARE STILL HERE. You camp gates, we won't come in, you camp stations, we won't undock. You need to sort yourselves out.

Bottom line is

STOP BLAMING WELL MEANING HIGH SEC PLAYERS FOR YOUR MISTAKES AND SCREW UPS.

Interrupting the bitter hisec whining for an important announcement from reality:

Some alliance leaders are exceptionally bright individuals who have the social skills and wits to make a large, international virtual community succeed, and strive to make it a fertile ground for it's members to thrive on. And have RL, just like you.

True story! It's amazing, isn't it?

I don't join nullsec corps because there's no way I'm going to be talked-down to by some obese, jobless waste of air who spends literally all his time playing a computer game.

I do enjoy exploring that region of space though.

Null Sec players need to stop trying to force other players to play how they want them to play.

. Please give me one solid reason and I mean SOLID reason why I should leave high sec and come to Null Sec? You make more Money? Okay, but as long as I have 100mil I don't feel I need any more ISK. I like PvP but have yet to find a PvP corp (this is not my only char ofc) that doesn't have a **** head FC who treats you like a piece of shite on the bottom of his shoe. Dead regions, if u stray more than 7 jumps from a hub, no ones about. Its boring.

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You can call it whatever you like

If you want to pvp with no penalties, go to null sec

If you pvp in low sec, you should be punished by concord accordingly, not this light slap on the wrist you currently get.

Make a career choice, its as simple as that.

Why do you act like someone cares?

We don't have any interest in you or your choices. Stop making bad threads and go save the damsel, or clear the Blockade if you're feeling all crazy

Now null sec. Please give me one solid reason and I mean SOLID reason why I should leave high sec and come to Null Sec?

I assume a lot of people care about this issue actually, as this has been a hot topic for many years in EVE (from both sides of the fence). And if thats not enough for you, I KNOW I CARE, so thats at least one confirmed player who cares.

PVPing wouldnt have been so hard to get into in this game (for me at least, and I suspect for other player as well) if it wasn't for two factors:

1. Most of the existing PvPers don't want company, they want TARGETS. Targets who dont know as much as they do about combat in EVE and as such are easy kills.
2. many if not most PvPers in EVEact as immature assholes. There, thats the impression you guys give off. Who wants to seek out immature assholes to play with? Not enough of us apparently..

i am NOT saying all PvPers are immature assholes, I have known and know quite a few who arent over the years. It just seems the very vocal majority is. Elitist assholes like BOB used to be, or "for ***** and giggles" assholes like many others. No wonder the SA Goons went from attempting to ruin this game to actually ruling it: they love the asshattery that you can do in EVE and get away with.

To some extent i agree with that, but when the people who want to prey on unwilling or inexperienced people (PvP or scamming both are good examples) vastly outnumber the rest, you have a negative trend. Some think EVE is at a place now where this is an issue for most gamers, some don't. I'm not sure yet. All I know is Hisec is still more populated than lowsec and 0.0. Go figure..

I assume a lot of people care about this issue actually, as this has been a hot topic for many years in EVE (from both sides of the fence). And if thats not enough for you, I KNOW I CARE, so thats at least one confirmed player who cares.

PVPing wouldnt have been so hard to get into in this game (for me at least, and I suspect for other player as well) if it wasn't for two factors:

1. Most of the existing PvPers don't want company, they want TARGETS. Targets who dont know as much as they do about combat in EVE and as such are easy kills.
2. many if not most PvPers in EVEact as immature assholes. There, thats the impression you guys give off. Who wants to seek out immature assholes to play with? Not enough of us apparently..

i am NOT saying all PvPers are immature assholes, I have known and know quite a few who arent over the years. It just seems the very vocal majority is. Elitist assholes like BOB used to be, or "for ***** and giggles" assholes like many others. No wonder the SA Goons went from attempting to ruin this game to actually ruling it: they love the asshattery that you can do in EVE and get away with.

To some extent i agree with that, but when the people who want to prey on unwilling or inexperienced people (PvP or scamming both are good examples) vastly outnumber the rest, you have a negative trend. Some think EVE is at a place now where this is an issue for most gamers, some don't. I'm not sure yet. All I know is Hisec is still more populated than lowsec and 0.0. Go figure..

Don't waste your breath, honestly don't. The asshats have woken up and are now trolling this thread, hence ive stopped replying. just let it go, waste of time.

Don't waste your breath, honestly don't. The asshats have woken up and are now trolling this thread, hence ive stopped replying. just let it go, waste of time.