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edtheshed
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.29 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: edtheshed on 29/07/2010 12:59:47 Linkage
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MyMainIsBiomass
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:03:00 -
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It's not just the lag though. It's their refusal to fix numerous other issues.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: edtheshed Edited by: edtheshed on 29/07/2010 12:59:47 Linkage
Good thing I don't do these fights for virtual real-estate
<My tools>
CCP Zymurgist > lol thats great Dan O'connor
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Monkey Saturday
Unknown Soldiers The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Monkey Saturday on 29/07/2010 13:05:23 Nice to see CCP getting the kind of media attention they deserve atm.
Ahahaaa they quoted me. That made my day 
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Desigre
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:07:00 -
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Maybe CCP will finally start taking notice of falling product quality and start fixing things, when theres start to be headlines about it.
And im not going to vote ccp¦s eve in those game awards, CCP dosent deserve it.
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Pennwisedom
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:08:00 -
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That is some legit investigative journalism right there.
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Vak'ran
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:12:00 -
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Great work MSN, use a very vocal whiny forumwhoring minority as a source for an article declaring the whole game broken.
Vak'Ran is your local official non-dedicated part-time advocate of reading comprehension and proliferation of intelligence on the EVE Online Forum |

Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:19:00 -
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Now lets hope some bigger gaming news related websites will also place this on their websites and hopefully ccp will finally fix their game instead of working on something useless like Walking in Stations... Nothing in education is so astonishing as the amount of ignorance it accumulates in the form of facts. |

WrednaMalpa
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:22:00 -
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Personaly I don't care for the lag cause i'm into small gang/solo pvp, however I understand all those players who are mad or disappointed at best because of the situation. And given nature of lag changes after last expansion we can honestly say game HAS been broken during patch. And no hotfix since then :(
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Jennifer Fenring
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk something useless like Walking in Stations...
Don't state your opinion as fact. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of players in fact would rather see WiS than fleet lag resolved as most players hardly ever come to 0.0 and engage in fleet battles even less.
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edtheshed
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk Now lets hope some bigger gaming news related websites will also place this on their websites and hopefully ccp will finally fix their game instead of working on something useless like Walking in Stations...
well they just took that article from cvg Linkage
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Cryten Jones
Gallente Eldritch Storm The Matari Consortium
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk Now lets hope some bigger gaming news related websites will also place this on their websites and hopefully ccp will finally fix their game instead of working on something useless like Walking in Stations...
Oh for the love of GOD man give it a rest will you !!!
-CJ
Originally by: Nogap toosmall
and your understanding of probability is on par with a radish.
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jennifer Fenring
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk something useless like Walking in Stations...
Don't state your opinion as fact. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of players in fact would rather see WiS than fleet lag resolved as most players hardly ever come to 0.0 and engage in fleet battles even less.
You do know you just did the same thing right?
And about the article, yeah i know it came from a different site, but i mean if larger gaming related news sites would take it over as well, then it wouldn't be bad, at this point i'd like to see as much negative publicity as possible, which should at least give a response from the ceo and not some moderator with their copy/paste or trying to be funny responses. Nothing in education is so astonishing as the amount of ignorance it accumulates in the form of facts. |

Pennwisedom
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
Originally by: Jennifer Fenring
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk something useless like Walking in Stations...
Don't state your opinion as fact. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of players in fact would rather see WiS than fleet lag resolved as most players hardly ever come to 0.0 and engage in fleet battles even less.
You do know you just did the same thing right?
No he didn't?
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SkinSin
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:41:00 -
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I expect this topic will be locked (and possibly hidden) shortly.
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:42:00 -
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Edited by: Gumpy Nighthawk on 29/07/2010 13:43:02
Originally by: Pennwisedom
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
Originally by: Jennifer Fenring
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk something useless like Walking in Stations...
Don't state your opinion as fact. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of players in fact would rather see WiS than fleet lag resolved as most players hardly ever come to 0.0 and engage in fleet battles even less.
You do know you just did the same thing right?
No he didn't?
yes he did, ...majority of players in fact...see the word fact there, he's assuming most people would rather see WiS instead of fixing fleet lag, while i'm assuming most people will find WiS useless and would rather see the lag fixed before new major content is added. Nothing in education is so astonishing as the amount of ignorance it accumulates in the form of facts. |

TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:42:00 -
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Hey maybe now its in mainstream media ccp might do something. *emails bbc tech editor*
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Diomedes Gambito
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: edtheshed Edited by: edtheshed on 29/07/2010 12:59:47 Linkage
Adding that one for follow up to my signatures :)
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:56:00 -
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Yes, most people do not care about 0.0 alliances blobbing eachother to have the biggest unused sec sprawl, but it's yet another symptom of a neglected game.
My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |

Pennwisedom
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: Pennwisedom on 29/07/2010 13:59:16
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
yes he did, ...majority of players in fact...see the word fact there, he's assuming most people would rather see WiS instead of fixing fleet lag, while i'm assuming most people will find WiS useless and would rather see the lag fixed before new major content is added.
I don't know if you are stupid or you just don't understand English grammar.
"in fact" really means "in reality" or something similar to that. So he is saying "I wouldn't be surprised if in reality the majority of players" Which is not stating anything as a fact, it is theorizing as to what the majority thinks.
Making an assumption and making a state of fact are not the same thing.
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Varrakk
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: edtheshed Edited by: edtheshed on 29/07/2010 12:59:47 Linkage
It's not just the lag, but the last couple of expansions has turn 0.0 into a joke. A sov system that doesn't work or one that we wanted in the first place.
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Drenan
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:01:00 -
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I thought it was Dominion that stuffed eve...not Tyrannis?
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:01:00 -
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Tbh the old tower system was better. It was slow as **** but you could make progress slowly.
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Jennifer Fenring
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Fenring on 29/07/2010 14:05:40
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk yes he did, ...majority of players in fact...see the word fact there, he's assuming most people would rather see WiS instead of fixing fleet lag, while i'm assuming most people will find WiS useless and would rather see the lag fixed before new major content is added.
If you read the The Fourth Quarter, Economic Newsletter for 2009 (page 6) you'll see that over 80% of players live in Empire space.
I said (as fact) that most people don't go to 0.0 a lot and I said it wouldn't surprise me if those people would in fact love Incarna above resolving the fleet lag issue. Not stating that as fact, just the "most people don't live in 0.0" part.
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Miss Connolly
Public Relations Corp
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Connolly on 29/07/2010 14:05:41 Nice to see that the pressure on CCP is increasing.
Also:
Originally by: Jennifer Fenring If you read the The Fourth Quarter, Economic Newsletter for 2009 (page 6) you'll see that over 80% of players live in Empire space.
I have 2 characters in my 0.0 alliance and 6 in empire. So that means squat. If I quit playing my 0.0 characters then my empire characters will die with them. ___________________ "It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features."
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Pennwisedom Edited by: Pennwisedom on 29/07/2010 13:59:16
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
yes he did, ...majority of players in fact...see the word fact there, he's assuming most people would rather see WiS instead of fixing fleet lag, while i'm assuming most people will find WiS useless and would rather see the lag fixed before new major content is added.
I don't know if you are stupid or you just don't understand English grammar.
"in fact" really means "in reality" or something similar to that. So he is saying "I wouldn't be surprised if in reality the majority of players" Which is not stating anything as a fact, it is theorizing as to what the majority thinks.
Making an assumption and making a state of fact are not the same thing.
And maybe you should actually just read my post first, i've never stated that most of the people are actually not interested in WiS, i'm just calling it a useless add-on to the game. He's assuming i actually think that, but maybe he just shouldn't assume, i just used a word in his sentence as a little word joke, if you actually read further you see that i'm already saying what i was trying to bring across with my previous post.
So i suggest you go back to your home school classes and start reading 101 again... Nothing in education is so astonishing as the amount of ignorance it accumulates in the form of facts. |

Legs Mackenzie
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:05:00 -
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Cool. I'll submit it to slashdot too. I've seen a few articles about how wonderful eve is on there, would be nice to portray the real side of it too. 
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Caldrion Dosto
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jennifer Fenring
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk yes he did, ...majority of players in fact...see the word fact there, he's assuming most people would rather see WiS instead of fixing fleet lag, while i'm assuming most people will find WiS useless and would rather see the lag fixed before new major content is added.
If you read the The Fourth Quarter, Economic Newsletter for 2009 (page 6) you'll see that over 80% of players live in Empire space.
I said (as fact) that most people don't go to 0.0 a lot and I said it wouldn't surprise me if those people would in fact love Incarna above fleet lag. Not stating that as fact, just the "most people don't live in 0.0" part.
If these numbers are thrue then what happens if all in 0.0 have 1 alt?
Then 40% of characters are indeed 0.0 people, if we have 2 alts/"player" we are 60% of the population.......
I mean trade alts, and hauler, mining alts is totally unheard of right? 
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:07:00 -
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Funny... for me, with the sole exception of largish fleet battles, my EVE works just fine.
One aspect of the game (which affects a small minority of the players) being broken at the moment does not equal the whole game being broken.
Welcome to internet journalism, where basement dwellers are accepted as "reliable sources", and food service employees are accepted as "tech experts". ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you. |

TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jennifer Fenring
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk yes he did, ...majority of players in fact...see the word fact there, he's assuming most people would rather see WiS instead of fixing fleet lag, while i'm assuming most people will find WiS useless and would rather see the lag fixed before new major content is added.
If you read the The Fourth Quarter, Economic Newsletter for 2009 (page 6) you'll see that over 80% of players live in Empire space.
I said (as fact) that most people don't go to 0.0 a lot and I said it wouldn't surprise me if those people would in fact love Incarna above fleet lag. Not stating that as fact, just the "most people don't live in 0.0" part.
Heres the thing though, its beginning to affect roaming gangs and soloers, i was going solo through drone regions in a pilgrim and i was hanging on gates for no reason in the most deserted patch of space in eve.
And the fact that a lot of null sec players have neutral empire alts and accoutns for industrial purposes and hauling stuff.
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