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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Bremmenn
Balance....Balance...then Balance some more.
They can learn this from Blizzard, but not from WoW.
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PvP types coming into PvE areas = nono,
EVE does not have this problem, so there is nothing to learn here.
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Lotteries creating dynasties that control the game economy for many years (shame on you).
Funnily enough, said dynasties have all crumbled.
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Abandoning your core players for a new revenue stream (new revenue is cool, but at whos
expense)?
àyes, this is something Blizzard needs to learn as well.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 22:59:00 -
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In short:
WoW is a second job. For idiots*.
Eve is a second job. That you have to pay for*.
There's no contest really. 
* Yahtzee Croshaw
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Bremmenn
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Posted - 2010.07.29 23:29:00 -
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Oki lowsec pilots coming into highsec and bathing themselves in the wreckage of noob industrialists (god forbid Concord patrol borders as efficiently as lowsec pilots do-props to you guys btw 
Yes EvE is more complicated than WoW, but when its all said and done its farming for
gold and instances for gear, anything more and your intellectualizing.
Maybe it was blizzard who learned from CCP, I dunno.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.07.29 23:32:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Bremmenn
Yes EvE is more complicated than WoW, but when its all said and done its farming for gold and instances for gear, anything more and your intellectualizing.
No. Anything more and you're looking beyond the tiny sliver that is EVE PvE.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Arakash Mond
Amarr
Kings In The Back Row
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Posted - 2010.07.29 23:54:00 -
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PvP types coming into PvE areas = nono
Which then equals Farmville or WoW or whatever it's called these days. If you stop and really think about it, PvP in PvE areas is probably one of the biggest pluses Eve has going for it because it equals carebear tears. Carebear tears really are worth their weight in gold (and subscriptions). What's even better is carebear retaliation but that seems to be too much work for most for some reason.
But Farmville type games like WoW do draw in the rl women so you should argue that angle Brem. I mean that is if your old enough and have actually talked to women and realized that you can't get cooties from them.
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offcopy
Caldari
OffBeat Creations
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:03:00 -
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so many post about how great wow is.
so guys i'm off to play wow i have 25b isk send me any amount of isk and i'll keep it.
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Trauli
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:09:00 -
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What can CCP learn from Blizzard? Designing or either giving the users the option to design an efficent UI.
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RogueMind
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:25:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Magnus Orin
Go
Back
To
Wow
QFT.
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Opinions are my own.
Torp Nerfing: A thousand BS Campers cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced...
EVE Trinity: The first game where Vista pwned XP. |
Shawna Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:45:00 -
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CCP can learn how to maximise the amount of money you can squeeze from players, and how to make the game easy enough for a 5 year old to play.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Bremmenn
Balance....Balance...then Balance some more. PvP types coming into PvE areas = nono, Lotteries creating dynasties that control the game economy for many years (shame on you).
Abandoning your core players for a new revenue stream (new revenue is cool, but at whos
expense)?
Try playing WOW on a PVP server. Eve at least has a global police force. Nothing like getting camped in the Stormwind grave yard AND corpse camped by the same crew endlessly.
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Zitus
NON PROPERO
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Posted - 2010.07.30 01:25:00 -
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came here expecting "Nothing"
Left completely dissatisfied.
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I'm not sure if my eyes are actually bleeding, or if it's merely my brain bleeding out through my eye sockets, but either way, it hurts to read what you just wrote |
Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.07.30 01:28:00 -
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1 Dont talk about future developments.
2 Dont release abything that isnt close to perfect(perfect with in your design goals.)
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Xenuria
Gallente
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.30 01:58:00 -
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"You cannot do that while stunned"
"You cannot do that while incapacitated"
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"Your ship is out of control"
"Session change in progress"
Looks about the same to me bro. also Op is the reason john lemon left the beetles. |
Viva Che
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:19:00 -
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I dunno, what can apples learn from oranges?
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Endless Subversion
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:38:00 -
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Without reading the topic:
PLAYER MODDED UI
holy ****. gogogogogo
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Stan Smith
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:47:00 -
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Edited by: Stan Smith on 30/07/2010 02:47:36
what can ccp learn from blizzard?
"You can do that while warping"
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Average Jack
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:48:00 -
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Edited by: Average Jack on 30/07/2010 02:48:36
Originally by: Crakkerbarrel
Contract me either and I'll trade you this toon:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Onyxia&cn=Jimmynewtron
Your gems are pretty fail. You shouldn't have so many SP/mp5 gems. 1 or 2 are enough (depending on meta - in your case 1), after that go for pure haste (yellow and blue) or SP/haste (red). 869 haste is a little on the low side.
SCNR.
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Menkala
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Bremmenn
PvP types coming into PvE areas
*chuckle*
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hah.
hahahahah. AHAHAHAHAHAHA
<3 Tears. GTFB2WOW
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Raistlim
Deep Space Supplies
Violent Entity
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Posted - 2010.07.30 02:52:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Raistlim on 30/07/2010 02:54:24
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Try playing WOW on a PVP server. Eve at least has a global police force. Nothing like getting camped in the Stormwind grave yard AND corpse camped by the same crew endlessly.
bring some friends? oh wait... you cant beat a lvl 80 with a bunch (gang? fleet?) of lvl 30s in that other game.
disclaimer: don't know where or what this 'grave yard' is.
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Jassie Lichous
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Posted - 2010.07.30 03:28:00 -
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After being an online gamer for coming up to 15 years and playing various MMO's and FPS's and Leisure Suit Larry games I can put my hand on my heart and say that I never set foot in WOW.
Anyone that has ever played WOW for more than one minute, even if hes the 'baddest' pirate in Low Sec, has the purest carebear heart of them all.
How anyone could subscribe to that **** was definately not drawn into it for the 'PvP' content.
So dont come here talking about arenas and PvP servers you freakin bears!
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Skydell
Morrigna Order
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Posted - 2010.07.30 03:58:00 -
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I cant be bothered to be so cliche and hate WoW because thats what you do if you play EvE but it is still difficult to compare the two from a play style point of view.
I dont know what the OP lost that prompted the thread, sorry for what ever it was. As EvE population grows the old argument "stay out of the hubs" doesnt apply. There is no amnesty, the ISK grind becomes harder and harder and you find parasites feeding on you while you play more and more but because someone can come in to the forum and brag about how easy it is to make ISK it's assumed all is well the sky is blue and its a peachy day.
Learn from WoW? Learn from EvE. There are enough mistakes made here, CCp dont need to look beyond thier own back yard to see what needs work. |
Caldari Witch
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.07.30 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: Shawna Gray
CCP can learn how to maximise the amount of money you can squeeze from players, and how to make the game easy enough for a 5 year old to play.
Saweeeet!
So youre saying CCP is going to add a sparkly ship I can have for only $25?!?
I have $25 no problem!
Ohhhhh, will it leave little sparkly-contrails and be see thru, like can I see my pod from the outside.
I bet I'll be the only one with it, and I'll feel so special.
*jumps up and down in joy like a maniac while vomiting uncontrollably*
I'm so special! I'm so special!
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Jenny Cameron
Caldari
Ordo Eventus
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Posted - 2010.07.30 05:35:00 -
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I think it can't be denied that WoW has better missions/quests.
Also the fact that you have to team up for some isn't a bad thing.
WoW's tutorial is a bit better, although it doesn't have the challenge to teach the players a hugely complicated game as EVE does.
Wow has walking in stations and the game doesn't lag horribly if there's 2,000 people in a city.
Don't pretend EVE is better in every way because it isn't.
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Bremmenn
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Posted - 2010.07.30 05:38:00 -
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It's CCP's game they can of course do as they see fit, I just disagree with some of the decisions. I have no trouble with nullsec or highsec tbh, I've played since the beta and been in every region in the game in damn near every system.
Some of the mechanics just seem odd to me, in terms of what a new player must deal with. Of course there are now missions and invention to help players along, even something as simple as PI can generate 500 million a week on 1 account. Pos
are interesting but there again Id like to see more in .5 and above. I have read
that 80% of the playerbase lives in highsec? -this would seem to indicate most players find nullsec to hard to survive in or perhaps do not have the time to invest in going there. Either way i respect the lowsecs players who wish to
pvp but at the same time respect the highsec people who do not wish to engage in that playstyle.
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Kireiina
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Posted - 2010.07.30 05:46:00 -
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Edited by: Kireiina on 30/07/2010 05:46:52
blah.. ignore.
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Aesheera
Amarr
Hello Kitty Goes Commando
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Posted - 2010.07.30 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: Monkey Saturday
What can CCP learn from Wow?
A whole bunch that's what. Blizzard is better than you by miles atm.
Fail CCP.
Epic Fail.
What are you still doing here?
Seriously, go back to watching Orcs and Trolls.
Also, unknowns soldiers. Lol.
/thread
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Tarasina
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:32:00 -
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Something I find strange in Eve...is modules deactivating after jumping a gate. I consider the modules(sensor booster, hardener mods etc) same way as buffs in other games but those said buffs actually are still active even when crossing continents/servers etc. Not so in Eve.
And yes, UI modding, badly needed.
I started WoW 2 months after release and I can say the game has become a lot better and less tedious over the years. Still, endgame is just farming this or that for no reason. Thanks to people going thru content so fast.
The "sandbox" doesn't work in WoW because it either crashes the server or no one joins in (no achievements, OMG! If crashing the server WAS an achievement I can promise you it would be done.)
Another idea: A DPS mod in Eve. This would mean you wouldn't have to test it all out in EFT and then have to test it in Eve when you can test the build directly in Eve.
In terms of graphics, Eve and WoW are on the same page (doesn't require latest computer).
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Koranoth
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:36:00 -
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What can CCP learn from WoW?
Hmm... they're two completely different games. So there's really no way to honestly compare them.
The community however...
EvE's community needs less cutthroat douche bags who are always seeking out these "tears".
Now, I've never lost a ship to a player before. In fact, I've only lost one ship period that I can remember, and that was a frigate when I was first learning to play... so I have no motivation to take up one side or the other... but really, some of you PvP 1337ists on the forum really get annoying. You act as though you're so high and mighty just because you gank people in an internet spaceship game.
Some of you remind me of the douche bags from 4chan.
Yup. /endrant
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Jennifer Fenring
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:46:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Fenring on 30/07/2010 06:46:53
Originally by: Koranoth
What can CCP learn from WoW?
Hmm... they're two completely different games. So there's really no way to honestly compare them.
They're not that different, they're both MMORPGs
They both have missions
They both have mining
They both have PvP
They both have "gear"
They both have tutorials
They both have skilltrees
They both have an economy
They both have player corps/guilds with chat channels and ranks
They both have official forums
You pay subscription for both
and so on.
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Koranoth
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:57:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Jennifer Fenring
Edited by: Jennifer Fenring on 30/07/2010 06:46:53
Originally by: Koranoth
What can CCP learn from WoW?
Hmm... they're two completely different games. So there's really no way to honestly compare them.
They're not that different, they're both MMORPGs
They both have missions
They both have mining
They both have PvP
They both have "gear"
They both have tutorials
They both have skilltrees
They both have an economy
They both have player corps/guilds with chat channels and ranks
They both have official forums
You pay subscription for both
and so on.
Not... at... all...
Hey, but if they both have PvP... thenn Halo is in the same category too! It also has a tutorial! And you pay for it! And it even has missions! Halo: Reach also has gear! There we go! Apparently Halo is in this category too! Gasp! it even has an official forum!!!!
New case: What can CCP learn from Blizzard and/or Bungie!
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Here's the thing, they really aren't similar at all. Just about every game has a tutorial, missions, multiplayer in some way, or form, and you pay for them.
Those are dumb things to base similarity on.
I'm talking game mechanics. Movement, the way instances and raids are set up, the way guilds work. Gear also works completely different btw. Oh, and so do the stats.
PvP is also a completely different World in WoW. Completely. You have classes with specs and rolls.
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