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Javajunky
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.24 01:06:00 -
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Hulk needs to have 2100m3 cargo....
I get all the other changes, but seriously you're not give the Hulk enough storage to be able to carry a full set of Mining Crystals?
I mean I really I don't think that is too too much to ask is it?
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Javajunky
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.25 00:08:00 -
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P3po wrote:I have dreamed a day where i can cary full set of crystals + 1 or 2 crystals spare if one gets destroyed .... guess i will have to wait few more years.
I think this guy "carry it in orca" never mined with 5-6 hulks at once, and have no idea how annoying it is with the crystals.
Yeah imagine that... I've probably posted this wish item a hundred times over the years.
Of course they went the extact opposite direction by not letting us even sport a full set of crystals.... of course they could be a sport and just drop the crystal m3 size down to 1m3 per crystal... nice to dream right? |
Javajunky
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.25 00:50:00 -
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Mortimer Civeri wrote:Dave stark wrote:Mortimer Civeri wrote:500m3 is all you need for crystals. That will give you enough space for 10 T2 crystals, or 16 T1. T2 crystals in a Hulk/Covetor can be configured for 3 sets plus 1 spare crystal of your most important type, or two sets plus two spare of each set. T1 crystals can have 4 sets with a spare for each, or three sets with a full replacement for one set and two spare crystals for the other two sets.
This bullspit about, "I NEED A FULL SET OF EVERY ORE TYPE CRYSTAL IN MY HOLD OMG!!!!!1" is hogwash. Any competent miner is only going to go after a few ore types ( the ones that have high ISK/m3 ) anyway. Miner/Producers, are going to mine the highest ISK/m3 ore they can and sell what they don't use to buy the minerals that they do need, so again limiting the range of ores to just a few which can be easily covered by a limited crystal set in a 500m3 cargo hold. any competent miner [in a hulk] will be in a fleet stripping belts of everything, there's at least 4 ores per belt in high sec alone, then when we get to grav sites etc that goes up. in 0.0 you WILL mine everything including the hideous spodumain in order to cycle the grav site. so yes, you do need a full set of crystals in a hulk, pehaps not in a mack or skiff, but you do in a hulk. Psst, I bolded the part YOU DIDN'T READ. That takes care of the highsec belts. As for 0.0, haulers can shuttle crystals as needed from a Roqal or Orca that is safely in a POS, or if you want to John Wayne it, the rat tank can shuttle the crystals from the Orca or Roqal in the gravametric site (never EVER have them in the site, ever, unless you want to show people a hilarious lossmail.)
You fail to take into account the multi-boxers perspective. Shuttling Crystals means shutting down a Exhumber to sit on ammo? Seriously, you must be an empire pubbie. If you weren't you'd see rorq's out as haulers all the time. I've got 1 boosting and 1 hauling. When you have 9 exhumbers an orca doesn't come close to cutting it. Oh yeah and that hauler rorq - parked right in the middle of the belt and has been for the last year.
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Javajunky
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.25 01:04:00 -
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corestwo wrote:The QQ over mining crystals in this thread is hysterical. "WE DONT WANT TO DO POINTLESS LOGISTICS." Ya'll really aren't satisfied unless you're in a perfect mining environment that is as conducive to not having to think at all as possible.
Obviously as someone who doesn't mine, thank you for your troll bait. If you had any skin in the game, you'd actually care. It's not like we're asking for a new feature, we're just asking for the capability we previously had??? |
Javajunky
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.26 17:59:00 -
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Wow I mention a problem with Cargo Hold and mining crystal and I cannot believe how many people literally came out of the wood work to protest fixing what actually just got broken.
Yes it is fairly reasonable for the Holk to have accomdation for a full set of mining crystals.
it's not like anyone is asking for more... most of us just want what was already there.... Personally when I undock each hulk has a set of crystals, so I undock roughly 18,000 m3 worth of crystals just in my hulks and I carry another 5K in my Rorq that's hauling.
Really why is such a problem? No one has even posited a valid reason why it's unfair to leave an existing condition in game, why is it unreasonable that the top yield ship have the flexibility to retool based on having a full stock of crystals.
Just change them to 5m3 or 10m3 for a T2 problem solved. |
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