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Haffsol
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Posted - 2012.07.24 11:14:00 -
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I'm still a bit confused about all these numbers and I'd like to try the new flying pies soon, particularly the skiff *_* but....
Quote:the hulk will mine ~25% more
uhm.... sorry 25% more than what? It can mine 25% more than something else only if the hulk is fit for max yeld and the "something else" is fit for tank or just unfit at all. If I'm correct the hulk will have always almost 1 MLU more yeld towards the others fitted for max yeld, but the problem is that while the others will have a pretty huge tank using only their mids, the hulk will need a dcu to be "decent", so basically it sucks at mining in real space life nao :p
I'll go the skiff way, even if it need a bit more managing, eventually the mack for some epic-boredome-ops in the ice fields somewhere. Ah, about the mack (sorry never used one) what does it mean that
Quote: miningAmountMultiplier: 2.0 => 1.5 is it referring to ice mining or what?
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Haffsol
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Posted - 2012.07.24 12:22:00 -
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Quote:The Mack gets a base 50% bonus to mining now. (making 2 strips the equivalent of 3) Just like the retriever will it always have the 2x bonus on ice blocks mined in a cycle and the trick that if you stop your cycle at 51% you still get the 2 blocks? I don't get who's king of ice mining and which are the new rigs you're talking about. |
Haffsol
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Posted - 2012.07.25 12:49:00 -
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I think the only problem (oh well you would say "whining") about mining barges was the cost:gankability ratio, meaning that a 300 mil hull couldn't be killed by a couple of 2 weeks old toons in a 3 mil worth ships _in high sec_
I agree that some miners deserve it, no doubt, since fitting a 1.6 billion hulk with ore strip miners and cargohold expanders is just horrible, but anyway the equation was unbalanced. Now CCP apparently did what was to be done, giving barges roles and more ehp so that they can't be ganked in such a rdicule way as it was before.
Imho the hulk hadn't the deserved treatment tho, since its role hasn't changed at all. Yeah it's the king of yield, but well.... the buff received by the others make them way preferable in almost every situation, be it a skiff or a mack or even a covetor...... they could fit the same "role" as the hulk by a fair 90% of the yield doubling the ehp. And they cost less.
So, even if I personally think having a decent amount of ehp for the hulk is indeed a great and nice change, I still see things like the hulk lost his role in real everyday space life
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Haffsol
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Posted - 2012.07.25 17:50:00 -
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skiff bait best bait >.> |
Haffsol
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Posted - 2012.07.26 08:38:00 -
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can't find the new magic rigs in sisi. where are them?
as regards the cargo bay size..... I like it instead. I think it's made under the specific purpose of fixing the roles for each ship or in other words: no cargohold extenders/cargo rigs anymore which is an awesome news. If you want to solo/afk mine there's no way you can use a hulk anymore. There are specific barges with a huge ore bay for that now, and you can't use them for hauling either, which I guess is the second reason why they made a "ore bay" for barges instead of "just a bay" |
Haffsol
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Posted - 2012.07.26 09:18:00 -
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hey what is that monster raft? is it a hulk? is it a mack with 6 MLU? No it's just a retriever! lol
that thing is insanely overpowered! 3 hardpoints, 3 MLU, about 20k hp, almost 87% the yield of a Hulk with 2 MLU..... 30.000k m3 ore bay!!! all for 10 mils? oh c'mon that's really insane |
Haffsol
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Posted - 2012.07.26 09:56:00 -
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Quote:it's not the fact that you're reloading crystals, it's the fact that there's more than one ore in the belts so you need multiple sets of crystals. this situation is made even worse by the fact that you have 3 strips on the hulk. sure, but 13 crystals are more than enough to stay out 2 hrs (just in case you want to jetcan before coming back in a indy and scoop your cans) or for any other kind of solo mining thing, being a "solo mining thing" something like "I go me myself and my barge around and mine the hell out of those roids" (different than "I solo with my 6 accounts with rorq and orca boost in -1 sec"). |
Haffsol
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Posted - 2012.07.27 17:39:00 -
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wtf! the hulk had too much love for a couple of days in sisi, better to nerf it already! |
Haffsol
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Posted - 2012.07.27 18:13:00 -
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I was talking about the ehp, the cargobay has been buffed in this last patch |
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